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tensazangetsu20:
Aside teaching, how is their ICT sector? Are there a ton of programming jobs.

I would like to think so. I'm not entirely sure but after teaching, IT is the next thing I hear about

azubix:
I feel like crying right now.

The English teaching job market in vietnam Vietnam is massive right now.

Just join any of the Facebook groups and you will see over 5 to 10 job vacancies posted daily.

I admire @WhyNa who is there right now and which am there too.

My prediction is that this will continue like that till around December because of no international movement. The teachers presenting in vietnam can't meet up with the job openings openings available.

I learnt they will be opening up their borders by July ending but they might only those from countries with minimal or zero new cases.

Make we dey pray dey hope oh.

Yes the market favours the NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS but sincerely there is also a market for us blacks.

If we believe we can make it.

@WhyNa, how far, how are you doing? Any update for the boys?

Udo diri anyi.

You've said the truth and nothing but the truth!

Let's hope July is feasible and yes they'll start with countries with lesser or no Covid-19 cases.

I'm doing good. The heat is crazy.

hammed71:
@whyna do you plan on getting Vietnam permanent residence and how easy is it after getting a teaching job.
Thank you

Permanent residence keh. Mbah nu. The goal is to eventually move....when depends on some factors. I'm more concerned about income VS cost of living

You can apply for temporary residence. Even those who get married to their citizen don't get permanent residence like that. First, they give them a 5 year visa exempt or something of that nature

Richdee1:
CC: Hadampson Franknetter, Whyna Munichlover, Justwise, sokown

Bro I dey Vietnam o

I think bank policies differ and you can ask questions before banking with them.

Also, I never said you need proof to receive money. Just to deposit and there are ways around this.

richmanrichard:
kudos to you @Whyna, you've done well& am inspired! Pls, what's d fate of I.T faithfuls in Vietnam? You said something about 'proof' b4 som1 can receive/deposit funds. Are there any exemptions for freelancers whom gets most of their pay online and abroad?

Gentlerespect76:
Actually, the organization is a University and they are looking for lecturers. They did not specify TEFL, and CELTA but mentioned a Master's degree in English and above. They also specifically stated they needed native and non native English lecturers.

But the bottom line is that you need a TEFL or some other English teaching certification to be able to teach English in Vietnam. If you are able to get a school or organization willing to take you and then arrange for you to get CELTA/TEFL or TESOL, it's all beautiful. But it's not easy from what I am seeing.

Note: From what I am seeing, it might take till last quarter before the Viets will open their doors to the world. So why not as part of your preparation begin the online program? And please ensure that the certificate you are given after the program does not indicate the mode, that is online.

We are all striving towards the fulfilment of our travel dreams and I pray God grant us good speed! If I make any progress be sure I will report it here for everyone's benefit.

Well done!

Try and get the TEFL, after that, I'm confident they will take you 80%. You have a very good profile. The other 20 is probably based on your demo or online interview or intro or teaching video.

Good luck bro. Remember to negotiate big when the time comes

Gentlerespect76:
You are right @ Whyna. I have been able to send tens of CVs and received a few responses. At the moment a university I sent my documents to had accepted me but are asking for a short introductory video on my education and work experience.

I am hoping to do one tomorrow after pushing off some pressing assignments today.

At Whyna you have not been able to reply my email. But I am still grateful and content with what you are doing here. Thanks

Glad you're making progress. I'll look for the email and respond.

All the best

azubix:
I saw one YouTube video like that where a lady was explaining how she could relocate with her child but unfortunately I didn't watch it because I don't have a child or personal family yet.

My advice:

Let one member of the family travel first, preferably the man, get a teaching job, get relaxed and then know how things work. Your wife can also apply for same later and tell the agent that she has kids to know what they will say and how they can help.

Shalom.

I agree.

I don't know how the family thingy works here but this is a good advice or you make more research yourself

HoliMaree:
I like you. But I'm curious. Why did you create this thread. The first thing a Nigerian will do when he finds gold is to call up all his friends and family first to join him in mining it before inviting neighbors. Have you taken your family along with u.

HoliMaree:
Amen to your prayers. And you will excel more and more. I asked a harmless question which you ignored, are you making effort for your family to join you(I mean sibling and parents or spouse & kids)? what does it take to relocate with a family

True that question was harmless but it would be myopic to think my family is in Nigeria or do not have plans to move to other countries if they aren't there already. Either way, this thread has nothing to do with my personal life or family.

On the question: What does it take to relocate a family....Visa

azubix:
There are some things you will discover from your research and it will be clear to you that for Vietnam, you just need to work with an agent.

Most in class TEFL COURSE training centers don't even give Nigerians a LETTER to help you get a visa, even if they give you, the official visa agency most of them work with won't give you more than 1 month visa and they told me I MUST LEAVE THE COUNTRY AFTER THE 1 MONTH which is the right thing.

From the TEFL COURSE school end, Apollo English told me that they don't recruit some nationalities like Nigerians because processing their work permit is very difficult. But they assured me that there is big market for blacks, this is for those who are scared they might not be able to get a job there.

Sincerely I think what @whyna advice is the best option get an agent to get 1 year Visa, 2 year work permit, to avoid be stranded or giving up. The agents will sort out the Nigerian factor limitations above.

Seriously Nigerians who travelled out many years ago has spoilt out name making things difficult for us now.

Finally, for those planning to truly make this move to Vietnam, please let's be sharing our experience .

Udo diri anyi.

Bro, I see your hustle and I pray you finally make it here

azubix:
@Whyna thank you so much for your response.

Please I want to ask for a little favour. Very certainly some of here will be joining you in Vietnam before the end of this year or at most before the end of the 2nd quota of next year.

Please can you create time from your busy schedule to give us a detailed tutorial on how to find a job, prepare for interview, what to expect from the interviewer and how to scale through and get the job using your experience and that of any black African you know as a case stuff.

I know this is much but please create time and do it for us. Most of the videos on YouTube is for whites and native speakers. I know it's a totally different ball game for Africans and Nigerians for that matter.

Thanks so much and please am sorry for asking for too much.
Udo diri gi.

In everything, always know this, you have the advantage. You speak English, they don't or they are not as good as you. You're like a guru to them. Have that at the back of your mind and it will build your confidence level.

Believe me, it's not that hard. I don't want to start an e-war just incase some category of people are reading this but I've see people with bad grammar and accent get jobs here. Doesn't mean Vietnam is for all and any. It might be luck or a case of the one eyed man

Finding a job luckily is easy. There are tons of advert so all you need do is apply online.

Make sure you have a good CV,, a degree and a TEFL or TESOL or CELTA certificate

Do an introduction video. You can even start now. It shouldn't be longer than 1 minute or a minute 30 seconds. They just want to hear your accent really so just introduce yourself and say a few things about you

Be ready to send out tons of CV. Of course it's free. You just need to create time and send out as many as possible

When you do get a job even if it's a cover class, try to get the TA to record you will you teach. That's another thing they sometimes ask for. Videos of you teaching

Have a strong mind. Don't be deterred by either the adverts or the response saying they.nee'd only NES. There are lots of fishes in the sea.

Learnt to prepare a lesson note. Their method is a bit different but wayyy easier.

Interviews here is not like in Nigeria where you answer jamb questions. Nope. Straight to the point. Where are you from? When did you come in? Where have you taught? What level are you more comfortable teaching? Salary expectation. Finish

azubix:
@Whyna how are you, hope you are doing great?

I just finished going through this thread again for a 3rd time and this time they were even more revealing.

You obviously have obi dike.

Nne please let me ask, how did you get so good at teaching that you could get gigs this fast. This is because that has been my fear, it's been long I left school although I was a mathematics teacher 2017/2018 but never neared English, infact I dey fear am. My even considering it now is because of the pay.

Apart from the TEFL, how did you brush yourself up to be a good English teacher? How did you win at interviews and demo class interviews?

Financially, taking an online TEFL COURSE and getting a 1 year visa, 2 year work permit is obviously the best but if one is not really Good, he might flop at interviews and just end up setting for the $8 per hour jobs.

Going for TEFL or CELTA in class training in vietnam will prepare you and give you a good foundation for teaching english but it's Damn too expensive and you are most likely to come in through 3 month visa, if after the 3 month nothing yet in terms of job, you will pay heavily to extend your visa. If you want to do the in classTEFL COURSE and still go with 1 year visa, 2 year work permit you will have to have over 3m naira oh and that is obviously not in any way available.

@Whyna please help us out, is there any way we can be more outstanding outside just having the TEFL certificate. The TEFL certificate can even be gotten for you by your agent. This has really bothered me, I no wan go there disgrace my family name by doing $8 per hour job. Lol
Udo diri unu.

Good question. Glad you took time to read and understand again.

On how I got so good, I had some experience teaching in Nigeria but that was a long time ago. It gave me some ideas but like I said, it's a different ball game here. Remember, you're teaching people who understand little or don't understand what you're talking about. You have to get creative.

Luckily, there are lots of flashcards, images and even videos you can use in class to teach.

Also, the more you teach at different places here and at different levels, you gain more experience and know what works and what doesn't for different age groups. I passed through that and I'm still learning. You just gotta be sharp and fast at grasping and learning news ways of teaching.

In the long run, it becomes easy cos English is what you speak everyday but now, you're getting paid for it.

Yes the demo classes can "annoying" cos sometimes, no matter how good you are, the first 5-10 minutes standing Infront of new faces knowing you're being accessed can be annoying but in the end, it gets easier. The jobs I currently have, funny enough, I didn't do demo for any of them


On accepting the $8 dollars an hour job, it may not be entirely bad especially if it's fix d like $800 a month. You gain experience and then still have some savings left. Most importantly, you gain experience if you have none

You've said it all and rightly too. thanks.

azubix:
My brother you dey vex oh lol. He was just joking sha and I believe he has gotten the correction.

Please @all, beyond fun let's take this Vietnam seriously, if Nigeria never tire you guys e don tire me. @Whyna has wet our mouth very well. Please let's keep researching and saving money. Personally I have given myself this year and at most next year to be in vietnam by God's grace. From what @Whyna told us and from my personal research, 2m is The target amount we need to be there and have some change to at least last for month plus before we get a job.

Let's focus our questions to her on our findings that is confusing. Let's not repeat questions she has answered already and let's not ask her unnecessary questions. Remember she has not stayed up to a year there so she needs time to hustle hard, have some good savings and be more relaxed.

Let's know too that we will still need her assistance when we get there, whether we go through Agent or a TEFL school.

Above all, las las we go dey ok. Udo diri unu.

heniford2:
thank you i really appreciate

Sorry ADVICE not don't advice

heniford2:
whyna thanks for this self adventure please can you answer this for someone with 700k can it be enough process vietnam visa and settle down there please reply

Akunna25:
Abeg whyna just like someone asked above how much can someone use to get down to Vietnam like the minimum or least amount possible......so those of us with our small money can relocate after covid

heniford2:
whyna thanks for this self adventure please can you answer this for someone with 700k can it be enough process vietnam visa and settle down there please reply

I usually advice people to have at least 2M.

With 2M, you can start the process, get here, rent an apartment and have something to fall on for a month or two depending. It would also get you a one year visa and work permit.

If you're getting a 3 months visa, it should be less than that. Maybe around 1.3 to 1.5 M

For 700k, you can do authentication, process a 3 months visa but that's all. There wouldn't be much left to even buy a ticket

xule20:
This was the feedback I got from Ninja teacher last month.

Now you know why I encourage people to make research on their own cos I don't know it all!

I never knew this about Ninja teachers Bottom line of that mail is they can't accept you cos you're a Non native speaker. I think I mentioned it somewhere in the past that you shouldn't gun for those big schools like "Daywater man, Corolla, Pampers, King's college" etc. It is not impossible but be reasonable.

Just like in Nigeria, almost on every street, there's an English Center. Native speakers get paid between $20-25 per hour. Non natives earn between $15-18. Sadly, I've heard of people who take jobs of $8. I was even offered one today with accommodation. Again, if your onions is good, you'll know your worth. Native or not.

That being said, you can try Apollo English. I know for a fact that they'll take you IF you pass the pre-course interview. They however won't help you with Visa. I've mentioned this before. They also do not guarantee a job placement. They were wise enough to state on their website that it is based in AVAILABLITY. Again I encourage everyone to do more research and quit waiting around for others to post info. No ONE knows it all.


All the best
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kevwemanuel:
Madam whyna, please in the name of God do justice to this request.

Thank you.

If you're looking for a school for online TEFL, you can search online. Some schools that offer TEFL/ CELTA here are Apollo
Ninja teacher
AVSE

As for finding it difficult getting a job, if you know your onions and you're good, you won't have a problem. As long as you send out your CV, you can expect to go for at least 2 interviews a week and if you're good, they'll take you

jpride:
@WhyNa Nice job.
Please is it advisable to enter VN with tourist visa with the intention of getting a TEFL certificate and getting a job, without landing into trouble? Can tourist visa be converted to work permit? Pls help

I'm guessing you mean tourist visa to work visa. With the right amount of money, it can. If you're lucky and get a job that helps with visa, good too It's not always easy though.

I always advice to get the work visa so you have rest of mind

DAramis:
Stay safe.

It seems like the have that Nigeria mentality of rough driving especially when the driver in question is running behind schedule.

Don't they have those road traffic police to enforce offenders?

Thanks.

There are traffic lights and all they really obey them. Sometimes you have offenders who beat traffic lights when there's no oncoming vehicles.

Also, if you're here, 03 red light = GO.

Where does the police want to stand and arrest the rough drivers? Inside the traffic or in-between hundreds of bikes?

Dinner with a Vietnamese family

Sweet potatoes. Don't know if it's baked or something but they are yummy. Had them with sugarcane juice.. Damn!

They have this machine that squeezes out juice from sugarcane. I'll try to take a picture.

I think these are quail eggs but it's part boiled bird and part boiled yolk or so

Clam

Snails...

This is just the waiting area

One of my schools. I can only post the ones where the children's faces are not captured

This doesn't even come close to the amount of bikes on the road during traffic but manage.

Try to zoom in

If you're all about he efizzyi life, it's in times like this you'd be glad you rented an apartment that comes with free swimming pool and gym membership. Usually, those kind of apartments cost nothing less that $350 for a studio apartment.

One good thing about Vietnam is you can live in 4 different areas and house in a year. Just make sure you sign 3 months contract only. If you don't mind moving around, houses are in abundance.

It's still difficult taking pictures. One thing I'd really like to show you guys is what traffic is like here and the amount of bikes on the road. It's crazy!

Here are some random pictures though.

Those buildings that look like this usually have the pool and gym thingy. If you plan on coming to Hanoi, you can look at places like Vinhomes, Five point avenue, An Bin City etc

Accidents

Last night, I had an accident. It happened soo fast. One thing I've noticed is when you bash or someone bashes your bike or car, KEEP MOVING.

Nobody does the screaming, yelling, a beg na, pay for damages wahala. They can just mumble sorry and keep moving.

So I held on to the breaks too fast to avoid hitting some guy who was trying to zoom past someone Infront who was clearly trafficating. Landed on the floor and hit my "head" . Thankfully, I had a helmet on (which is compulsory here) so the helmet was what actually hit the floor.

The only person that stopped was the guy who was trafficating and had nothing to do with the accident. The other guy just prolly kept going.

Thankfully, I'm fine, not a scratch. My headlamp got broken though. First mechanic said it will cost about 18k in Nigerian naira to fix it and some other part that was broken.

Got another mechanic who's fixing it for 7k. Price price price.

Bottom line...these guys here drive rough. Expect anything at anytime. They don't have the other road users mentality. It's all about them

Banking...

Don't be surprised if you open an account and you're not given an ATM card or even internet banking services . Most banks if not all require you to stay in the country for more than a year before you qualify for that so get ready to go into the bank whenever you want to withdraw money.

Also, you can't deposit money to your account or someone's account unless you're ready to provide proof of that money. No be small wahala. All this is in a bid to curtail money laundering or so. There are other ways you can do this though.... depositing money I mean

This is a ticket with number you're given once you enter the bank. Just like what they do at MTN or DHL office so no need to queue. Just wait for your number to be called.

Vietnamese women in the sun