RikudoSennin:


Oh good to hear. I sent a pm to you out of fear. You can reply or disregard. Cheers.

Thanks boss. I'm perfectly alright

Solanaa:
RIP to the OP, I suspected that boredness from your write-up but I thought probably since the money is coming, You're all good.

What happened to traveling back to Nigeria?

R.Ip once again.

Next let's check out for Whyna

Hmmm. I don't know how my name got associated with depression in the same sentence but I'll take it that it's just "check out" like you said.

I'm doing great BTW. Just busy busy busy with work and side hustles.

RikudoSennin:


Yeah, depression is so bad. What’s wrong with Whyna? She battling depression too?

Lmao. Don't know where this is coming from but I'm doing great.

Queenie95:



@WhyNa, please kindly respond to your DM. Thank you.

Replied. Sorry

uchman:


I read that Vietnam was better before 2021, probably before covid.
China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and most of those countries that pays Native speakers better are presently shut down and not employing and I THINK that's the reason for the high surge of NES in Vietnam, even the NES are much that there are no much spaces for the Non natives(black) but the good news is that China and those other countries that pays the NES better will soon start employing and most of the Natives will move over there.

I think you were in Vietnam when things were good and you have already had work experiences which also count for the black skin.

I read not experienced, so I stand to be corrected!

Just some input...

I really don't know about the other countries you mentioned so I'll just speak for Vietnam.

When covid hit, things got bad for everyone but NES were hit the most. Why? Those guys are big flexers so do the maths.

But that's not even the issue.

In late 2021/2022 when the world started adjusting and opening their doors, that's when it became RED for teachers in Vietnam.

We were at HOME for ONE WHOLE YEAR. Guess who was affected again This time around, there was mass exodus of NES. Like the way you carry buckets to stream to fetch water, they left enmass. Also, guess who stayed strong?

To make matters worse, in that time, government started clamping down on fake visas, people entering as tourist and remaining to teach, people teaching without degrees and documents and this made both entering and return difficult for NES as well as continued exit.

My point, I honestly don't think other countries shutting down had much effect on this.

Yes experience counts. Yes accent counts (in the bigger cities), skin colour, yes ome centers will tell you that's what parents want. Others who have worked with both NES and NNES know quality and are indifferent. They look at what you have to offer and dedication which majority of them NES don't have

Also, sometimes, it's not about being paid well but about the cost of living and how much you're able to save afterwards.

Just my input

Pou0:
Why are things not going according to plan, what was your plan? What works for Mr A might not work for Mr B, explain for people here to understand your thoughts behind ur statements

Gracias.

@anyone reading this, don't let anyone discourage you.

Make your own research, ask lots of questions, compare different places, cut your coat according to your size, don't underestimate starting small (if I had, I would have left Nigeria in 2014), work your way up, be smart and learn on the go.

Just like pou0 said, what works for a won't work for b so research and let God guide your way.

But I tell you in all sincerity, people are and have made it here

RedAlert08:


Word of advice: don't come to vietnam. I'm there, but things aren't going according to plan.

Don't give us half gist, give us full gist and don't let your words discourage people.

I hope you've booked your flight back home though

Upzyworld:


NOBODY CARE ABOUT HANDSOME OR BEAUTIFUL IN VIETNAM, INASMUCH YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB, BUT MOST TIME WHITE SKIN PEOPLE GETS HIGHER HAND....BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN BLACK CANT TOO, AM A BLACK, I GOT PAID SAME SALARY AS WHITE, ALL NA LUCK

Thank you for confirming this

padua1234:
What I mean by appearance is colour. If u are white and you don't know anything, you have higher chances than a black English Professor. All these visa agents only care about their money. They value people from Pakistan, Morocco and Russia more than a black American

Lies.

One of the reasons I minimised posting here is I kinda expected people who have been to and are still in Vietnam to come share their experience cos I know many of them from this platform. Many.

If only me keep posting, it will look like I have something to defend or I'm the only one it's working for.

At the same time, I understand people are busy, don't have time, are not big in social media platforms so we have to respect .

Lots of black people ARE making it here. Many have brought friends and family and many have saved more and moved to another country easily.

Again, it boils down to knowing and giving value and not putting your hand where you know you clearly can't reach.

I know people who when they came here, they performed poorly in terms of accent, teaching style, being strict and all. They didn't start applying to big big schools and cry when they were rejected. Instead they started small, learned very fast and today, them dey rush them

u3fine:
The number of NES are far more than the available jobs in Vietnam at the moment. As a NNES, you are at the end of the demand table as they prefer those from the Philippines, Europeans and any other white skin to blacks.
That doesn't mean blacks don't get jobs but its mostly in the province and with lower pay. Few do get jobs in the major cities but they're mostly those with over 1 year Vietnamese teaching experience

It's good you captured the 40+ people who laughed at that post cos that offer is a joke.

Every once in a while, you'll see recruiters post most of this ridiculous adverts and guess what, people will bite! If you think I'm lying, go back to that post and you'll see at least one desperate black or Philippino who posted "am interested "


Don't be deceived though, majority of the people who say they are interested are those here illegally...visa has expired or one thing one thing so they accept whatever comes and the recruiter knows.

And yes, there are lots of people, blacks even in the cities making good money! Quality recognises quality!

Don't expect to get value if you yourself don't have anything to offer.

Pou0:
Hello, whyna, I haven't received some response from you

I did reply you immediately. I'll send you a DM now

Newbie23:
Hi @WhyNa
I'd like to be part of your next cohort. You were helpful to someone I know who was successful in getting their work visa, traveling to Vietnam and getting a teaching gig after settling in. I'm very new to this forum so not quite sure the best way to contact you. Could you please reply to this post, so I know it's okay for me to leave my email address here. Thanks!

Mail replied

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megatran:

Happy new year Whyna, do you have Nigerian friends that are working as teachers in Thailand?

Hi,

No, I don't

jasonclement:
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Please quote me.right. You can but it's a rare thing. You can try until you succeed.

On the other hand, there are people who process the sponsorship. The dicey part is knowing who to trust.

Most of them will open an umbrella company and seem all genuine until you get to Vietnam and then you get blacklisted and you won't know in most cases until it's time to renew your visa. Then you'll be sent home after being fined heavily.

Others will scam you outrightly including your country man.

Bottom line, do your research WELLA. Ask lots of questions, I mean lots of questions and pray.

Jaebaifa1:
[quote author=WhyNa

In 2014, I took my first and only IELTS, made a 7.5, even created a thread and was optimistic about getting a scholarship. Between 2014 and 2018, I applied for dozens of scholarship but was always given admission without scholarship or put on reserve list.

2019, I had had enough and decided to look into other ways of leaving Nigeria


Good day @whyna please I sent you a mail or Dm. I actually don’t know how this platform works. Anyways I have all my documents and was wondering if you could help out maybe with companies or schools over there that can sponsor Nigerians. Most of them on Facebook claim they can’t sponsor Nigerians or Africans. Thanks ❤️

Happy New Year Nairalanders!

It's been a busy but fruitful 2022 and we thank God for that. Cheers to all the Nairalanders that made it into Vietnam in 2022, I know about 14 of them.

Looking forward to 2023 and what it holds. Hopefully more people are able to make it out here. To the ones entering in January, the sky is your limit. Make una try post frequently to motivate others mbok.

To clear this once and for all, it is extremely difficult to get a job in Vietnam from Nigeria. Chances are like 1% and here's why...

It is cheaper to sponsor a White person into Vietnam. They already have a 30 or 60 day visa free entry and so would not cost up to 1000 usd to bring them in.

On the other hand, it costs much more than that to sponsor someone with an African passport and no one is ready to spend that kind of money.

Whites are already considered Native speakers and parents are attracted to schools with White teachers. So it's a no brainer. They'd rather bring in a cheap, liked White than an African

Nigerians still have a reputation here.

You get the drift bah?

On the rare occasion that it happens and you do find someone willing to sponsor you...I've seen just one person in my 3 years for this waka...here's what happens..

They pay you way below market value. At first, it would seem like a win win cos you still earn more than in Naija. Then 2-3 months down the line, your eyes will clear and you'll become unhappy.

They will overwork you. You basically do more hours ontop of low wages and they send you to different places. You don't have a say

They'd most likely hold on to your passport or are on standby to blacklist you and withdraw their visa if you mess up or are not good..

Just thought to put this out there. Cheers

BunmiBie:


Hi whyNa?

It's been a while. Please, I need to discuss something with you. Can I DM?

Alright

dehiero:
Shout out to @whyna Vietnam finally

I see you bro

You gist no complete o. But we'll take it. Enjoy the 'river'

Upzyworld:

You earn in dollars here, also things are very cheap, if you are on a student visa, it's illegal to work with it, unless you do it secretly, but if caught, na gobe �

No you don't. You earn in VND _ Vietnamese Dong. Most companies just negotiate in dollars for example they tell you its 25 dollars per hour. But you get paid the equivalent in VND

Liadi2:
Is there any chances or for HND holder either teaching or another legal Job.

There's a possibility

Zeel007:
@ WhyNa what if I do my TEFL online, like "Allison" Allison is just like udemy, will the certification be recognized

Yes it will. Just make sure it's authenticated

chime11:

Please is it still required to be fully vaccinated before entering Vietnam?

Not anymore

Yampotatocarrot:
@ WhyNa, please I tried contacting you through the nairaland mail, but it isn't going through. I'll appreciate if you get across to me through this email - ihedicaleb@yahoo.com

(Sorry for quoting you on a dead thread... Need your assistance on relocation)

Please, inform me when you've gotten the email so I can delete it

Thanks

Delete

Loving1:

Omo! 10k per hour is way better than 9ja now, & how many hours can u work a week?

As much as you can carry as long as you're on a work visa

Abimbola2018:
Please I just started my journey to seeking for admission in a Vietnamese school. Please who can help me out. @whyna, please guide me on the process

talkless78:
Good day whyna I read tru the pages and I found out its easier to get Admission for undergraduate in Vietnam I wanted my child to be given admission this year and preferably nursing or engineering course can I pm you if you can help or give guidance to how we can achieve this...thanks

Abimbola2018:
Please I just started my journey to seeking for admission in a Vietnamese school. Please who can help me out. @whyna, please guide me on the process

Hi,

I already stated I don't know much about student's admission but it's pretty straight forward.

Some nairalanders following this thread have gotten admission and some are here already sef. I know cos I helped most of them pay their school fees. If only they can come back to share their experience and put people through.

But basically, you should...
1. Make a list of the schools you want to apply to
2. Take note of their admission period. I think admission for September is currently over
3. I'll advise you to use a laptop when browsing school websites. The website would be in Vietnamese but when you use a laptop, google tranlates the site for you so it's easy to understand and navigate
4. Once on the website, search for their email address
5. Go to google translate and type all the enquiries you want to do and tranlate it to Vietnamese. Be clear, send your documents if possible and state the course and session you're applying for. This will save you having to send multiple mails waiting for replies each time. Copy that translated maial and send to them
6. If they have an agent, they will refer you to their official agent but 95% of them deal directly with students
7. Send to as many schools as possible
8. If you're using a laptop and admision is open and you are able to apply, apply! Then follow up with mails.

This is the much I can say about applying to schools here

About schooling and working, majority of schools tell you you can't work. Doesn't mean people don't. I have no idea about the legal implications so please do your own research

Loving1:

Does Vietnam offer work & study while schooling.

Also, considering dat our naira is way higher than their currency, how do u people make more money?

You're paid the equivalent of 10,000 - 20,000 naira per hour. That's how we make money

Hi Nuellaviodau
sorry i've been mega busy.

Here's your mention....

Raregem9000:
Good afternoon @All, please is it possible for someone with an evisa [tourist visa with a month validity] to secure a job before his/her visa expires? I see their evisa application is hassle free from what i read on their site. One doesn't need to visit the embassy or be interviewed by a consular. https://vietnamvisa-au.com/

I laugh in Swahili. Shey you saw the website says .au.

Are you an Australian passport holder? If so, yes by all means apply online.

If you carry Naiija or African passport.....

encryptjay:

Golden Bridge.
That's a masterpiece right there
Eating snails with their shells with cheese sauce? Hard call for me when I'm still uncertain about eating snails.

You do't eat the shell. Lol.

There's this 2 pronged fork you use to dig the meat out

And YES! It's the Goldenn Bridge! I'll definitely be visiting it and the iconic Phuc Quoc Island sometime in the future....It's about to get crazy busy! School don open