₦airaland Forum

PassingShot:
Now I know you are not smart a bit. Did you do Logic or GST in school?

My first sentence = SW supports true federalism.
My 2nd sentence = Reaffirms my first.
My 3rd sentence = APC was against the confab.

Can anyone logically conclude or infere from the two statements above that APC = SW? It is surely a fallacy to say that.

nawa for APC and her "smart" chaps...

Whynotthetruth :
Aregbesola has shown it by his inept dependence on oil alone just like Rochas of IMO state too...so also others...and more so, they are against the confab that did a quasi restructuring of the system... More reason, the north wanted Jonathan out so as to kill the report implementation...

PassingShot:
The SW has always been the vanguard of campaign for true federalism from time immemorial and evidence abound. So, stop making it sound otherwise. APC was
against the confab for suspicions of hidden agenda of PDP/GEJ and not because of opposition to true federalism.
Lastly, drop the idea of "the north wanted Jonathan out". The fact is that GEJ failed beyond pardon and he was voted against by Nigerians. If he performed to just above
average of his promises, he would have remained a president even if all the Tinubus and the whole north didn't want him.


Whynotthetruth :
APC is against resource control too as they are against regionalism...hence the reason the north wanted Jonathan out to avoid any chance of its implementation...
and they cashed in on jagaban thirst for power and his people bandwagon allegiance to APC as their own party...


I have addressed this here:

PassingShot:
The SW has always been the vanguard of campaign for true federalism from time immemorial and evidence abound. So, stop making it sound otherwise. APC was
against the confab for suspicions of hidden agenda of PDP/GEJ and not because of opposition to true federalism. Lastly, drop the idea of "the north wanted Jonathan out". The fact is that GEJ failed
beyond pardon and he was voted against by Nigerians. If he performed to just above average of his promises, he would have remained a president even if all the Tinubus
and the whole north didn't want him.


when I raise an issue about APC and you answer me with stance of SW...what are you inferring? isn't it that they are same as opinion of one is opinion of another...: D am done here...good pm

obi4eze:
Mr man answer my question. How much in total does the FG owe? Please stop beating about the Bush or do you want me to educate you?

Kindly educate me plzzz with facts and evidence... thanks Sir...

PassingShot:
Please do not force me to believe that you're not as smart as I think.

Which part of my post suggests the bold part? When you have answered that, we can continue talking.

you aren't smart bro...who wrote this below or do we have your clone here


PassingShot:
The SW has always been the vanguard of campaign for true federalism from time immemorial and evidence abound. So, stop making it sound otherwise. APC was
against the confab for suspicions of hidden agenda of PDP/GEJ and not because of opposition to true federalism.
Lastly, drop the idea of "the north wanted Jonathan out". The fact is that GEJ failed beyond pardon and he was voted against by Nigerians. If he performed to just above
average of his promises, he would have remained a president even if all the Tinubus and the whole north didn't want him.

obi4eze:
Yes sir, your ignorance is bliss. How much does Nigeria owe at the moment?

Where's the evidence of your $50billion loan by Jonathan

PassingShot:
Jonathan's unfulfilled promises are well documented. just take a few of them:
– Deliver stable, constant supply of electricity
– Ensure Nigerians do not use generators more than twice a week
– Explore deposits in Benue and Kogi state to improve power supply
– Raise power generation to 4747MW by December 2011 – Introduce 5-year term budgeting
– Create 1.5 million jobs in 2 years
– Bring industries to Niger Delta
– Strive to revive the Ajaokuta steel complex
– Strive to revive the Itakpe iron company

In all you were running around same issue...electricity... quit running in circles if you have nothing to say...why not show me how Jonathan hasn't achieved these stuff you stated here up to average as you stated...where were we in 2010 and where are we now in them...I am waiting

PassingShot:
The SW has always been the vanguard of campaign for true federalism from time immemorial and evidence abound. So, stop making it sound otherwise. APC was against the confab for suspicions of hidden agenda of PDP/GEJ and not because of opposition to true federalism.

Lastly, drop the idea of "the north wanted Jonathan out". The fact is that GEJ failed beyond pardon and he was voted against by Nigerians. If he performed to just above average of his promises, he would have remained a president even if all the Tinubus and the whole north didn't want him.

Kindly note that you equated SW to APC now by your own accord...but you were denying that SW bandwagon and sheepish following of APC was due to lack of leadership by Jonathan, than their sense of entitlement to APC as their regional party...hence can NEVER see any reason why a Tinubu should he stopped from raping the state cum regional treasury to death through looting...Imagine, APC states construction of one kilometer road at whopping 1billion both in lagos, Edo, etc and their supporters are happy singing them to high heavens...God have mercy...

NgeneUkwenu:
Nna! gini ka m mere gi?

You have the heart of a devil...try some sober reflection dear...choo yabu ewu oji kita chi ka di

Forwetinnah:
No na...the people in APC are all descendants of mother Theresa, their states are like Qatar and they're all saints while still stealing in Nigeria
Apeeeeeceeeeee charge...no be change

boss what's up?

atlwireles:
That's the functional mindset among the SAI APC crowd. How a person drops $50B as borrowed money in the last 5 years is beyond human comprehension. But that's what they believe, sometimes you have nothing but pity for them.

Its really a pathetic situation... APC and its minions are everything why patriotism is dead rather partisanship is key

PassingShot:
I have addressed this here:

Sorry, Not with sycophants like you who see partisanship more before patriotism...
Kindly show any of his promises he didn't perform to average?
...if APC supported true federalism like sw, they will go there with their agenda and will raise their voice once they sense any hidden agenda by Jonathan...or can you show me any agenda of APC to that confab...If the stand of APC is synonymous with that of sw, they will support honest men like odumakin in their push...it is all about conspiracy to grab power and not any damn rhetoric from you...Tinubu will always succeed in so far we have people like you still in the system...

PassingShot:
I suppose he's referring to the total money owed by the FG which is now at 11 trillion naira.

You mean FG and all other state's debt put together... Mind you, APC tops the list of debtors...

I keep saying it here that Anambra template as instituted by Peter Obi and sustained now by Obiano shows how a sincere government can run the state leaving behind great infrastructure projects, development, increased salaries etc without a single debt even in the midst of so-called scarcity or reduced allocation; while less developed states with more allocation than them are wallowing in debts with nothing on ground to show for it except lies and propaganda...

barcanista:
will do it now. Will contact them

why can't I comment there?

PassingShot:
I suppose he's referring to the total money owed by the FG which is now at 11 trillion naira.

You mean FG and all other state's debt put together... Mind you, APC tops the list of debtors...

I keep saying it here that Anambra template as instituted by Peter Obi and sustained now by Obiano shows how a sincere government can run the state leaving behind great infrastructure projects, development, increased salaries etc without a single debt even in the midst of so-called scarcity or reduced allocation; while less developed states with more allocation than them are wallowing in debts with nothing on ground to show for it except lies and propaganda...

PassingShot:
And this cannot be achieved before true federalism is achieved? Don't we currently have the LGs set up to develop their locality?

If anything, each federating state should be supported to be able to harness her God-given resources before going the way of true federalism.

Besides, why hasn't been anyone of the SS reps to sponsor a bill clamoring for a return to FF if the region so much believe in it and desire it? Why must it be initiated by the central government?

APC is against resource control too as they are against regionalism...hence the reason the north wanted Jonathan out to avoid any chance of its implementation... and they cashed in on jagaban thirst for power and his people bandwagon allegiance to APC as their own party...

PassingShot:
How did you know? Just asking.

Aregbesola has shown it by his inept dependence on oil alone just like Rochas of IMO state too...so also others...and more so, they are against the confab that did a quasi restructuring of the system... More reason, the north wanted Jonathan out so as to kill the report implementation...

obi4eze:
Again you beat about the Bush. Was it the APC governors that borrowed the 50 billion dollars?
If you can't answer simple question then please don't quote me again.

ignorance is bliss...did Jonathan borrow any $50billion dollars...do you know what is $50billion dollars?...how much is our budget worth?...kindly drop your evidence here ...you just run around insulting people instead of using that valuable time to educate yourself...

gwales:
yuguda is the worst thing to ever happen to bauchi politics so pls don't even think dat bauchi pple would vote for pdp when the state government didn't pay them upto a year salary

Is he really owing that much...any evidence?

Activa:
Have u asked why Buhari didn't even get close to that in Rivers?

Simple...APC has nobody or structure there except for amechi who was busy running around with buhari...but Bauchi has more than just a structure for PDP...

obi4eze:
Was it the APC governors that borrowed the monies for the FG?

I am for good governance not blackmail like you do mostly here hence I pointed out your hypocrisy to you...Rochas of Imo state, Aregbesola of osun state etc has messed up the state treasuries notwithstanding Rochas huge allocation while aregbesola gets a modest allocation as compared to states in their cadre like Anambra which isn't an oil producing state yet but doing far better than these APC states with no single debt and is even increasing salary of its workforce by 15% more in the midst of so-called scarcity...

When these APC states mess up, instead of the masses holding them accountable as grassroot government, they shift the blame to FG to hide their lack of leadership and sincerity to electorates...To me, What reason has Rivers state to borrow and even owe workers Lagos state has no reason borrowing as much as it is doing now with nothing to show for it eg $1Billion loan for light rail whose delivery date was July 2013. Till now, there's nothing to show for it and the loan is there to be repaired...But APC and its minions can't see such...they only see Jonathan...ndonu

bushdoc9919:
In my opinion, Bauchi was lost due to complacency.

Can you explain further plz and also take a look at those states mentioned in your post?

bushdoc9919:
In my opinion, Bauchi was lost due to complacency.

Can you explain further plz?...why not look those states in my initial post and drop your opinion too...BTW I love most of posts in this forum especially when you're in good mood

Akainzo:
What is the problem? Agbaje couldn't garner 25% of votes in his own polling unit, and OBJ never got 25% in his own unit since 1999.

I am looking at the entire state not polling booths...

barcanista:
Nairaland BoT Chairman

...wanted to secure my seat first before I read further...nice one there...I have modified my post though...can't comment on your site...why not encourage other brethren to also support the site with articles too...dearpreye and mizmycoli as great writers can be of help

omenka:
I wouldn't be doing my conscience any good if I ignored this thread just as I do every other initiated by this op.

Still trying hard to promote a useless blog.

May I never progress in my life if I ever click on that link.

Reality is finally hitting a home run with the purveyors of the killer party ripping themselves apart. FFK, David Mark, Muazu, Olisa Metuh, all of them throwing lethal jabs at eachother. Their online scumscrubbers have no choice but to tone down their inane rhetoric and turn into unsolicited advisers.

This is one veiled little baby step in trying to return back to the fold of progress minded individuals. Your antics aren't gonna fly boy. Look for another lease of life. There would be no protection or ministerial aide position for you here.

Save all your advice for the many PDP minions like yourself on this forum. Hard times lie ahead for you lot. You would need those economic advice more than ever.

May God grant you your wishes and may He in his magnanimity allow others to patronise you in equal proportion as you do unto others...Amen...

Thanks to you Op for the write up...Buhari should run a government devoid of propaganda like most APC states and shun vindictiveness...

Now to you; obi4eze : Was Jonathan that plunged all APC states into mind boggling debts...with little or nothing to show for those debts...

Passingshot, if only you understand what constructive criticism is...maybe to you it is only massaging the ego of ruling party through subtle advise as this...otherwise it is met by insults and blackmail by you and fellow minions...

bushdoc9919:
Bauchi was always going to go for APC.....the question you should be asking is how PDP lost Benue and Kogi...and even Kaduna.

How was Baluchi going to go to APC with Yuguda PDP governor, bala Mohammed fct minister and muazu PDP national chairman and their senators,reps,assembly guys etc?...Even Kaduna is suspicious too...there's so much sell out yet to be unearthed...Benue was in-house fighting... kogi? can't explain why too...

BashirAhmad1:
...The best part of is this change we brought to Nigeria is that BUHARI is a leader and will leads by an example. Yesterday orders his aides to obey all traffic laws.
This thing is new to Nigeria, in my state even State Commissioner dont obey any traffic law.

Let's see if he continues to obey it tomorrow especially when intelligence info dictates otherwise...

But most importantly, we fall for propaganda and showmanship just like Imo state fell for Rochas showmanship cum propaganda and he's bleeding the state to death with looting, debts, and mediocrity...His sycophants here like ujoatu, abagworo become blind to these anomalies and sing his praise sheepishly...

simpleseyi:
You are right just like Fayose, Buhari is going to die but that will be after your burial and Fayose's burial because Buhari's family has a history of long life. Some of Buhari's elder sisters are still alive. So, I am expecting the news of your death and Fayose's death before Buhari's.

If you have some reservations about his post, why not advice him accordingly than sheepishly toeing same line again... BTW he said the truth...it's only a matter of time, we all will meet death...

francizy:
Having Buruji KashAMU as role model is equivalent to having Tinubu as a role model. You know they have a lot in common and Buruji has come out to state how Tinubu inspired him greatly, probably as a drug baron and as a politician...

Fayose is the best thing to happen to SW politics.. As long as the masses (Ekiti people) loves him, and as long as he has never peddled drugs or assassinated someone before (like how some people assassinated Funsho Williams), then any right thinking human being has the right to choose him as a role model/mentor..

Cc Temitemi1, SeverusSnape, Whynotthetruth, Barcanister, Mogidi, Truckpusher, Tit, etc..

Inasmuch as I desire for all to stop this show of shame and sheathe their swords, I find it quite contradictory and unbelievable that Jonathan couldn't garner even mere 25% in bauchi state with Muazu, Yuguda, bala Mohammed... something isn't right there...some truths need to be unearthed there...

ellechrystal:
U get d point.

I know Nigerians to be impatient lot...my only fear is that these conspirators won't accept defeat for national interest like Jonathan when it is time to sack them...Also, remember this is a battle of ethnic supremacy...

agabaI23:
Buhari At loss on how to tell Nigerian he duped/decieved/one-chanced them
Just tell them, "I lied and I have no solution to your problems. Deal with it"!
What does he know now that he didn't know before?
theV0ice, ellechrystal, barcanista, whynotthetruth

All the indicators he's lamenting about today were there during campaigns when he was lying around and bambozzling us with utopian promises...This is to show that the aim of buhari and all of APC was simply power grab and not any good governance...But in all, he will get as much support as he & APC gave Jonathan...as much time and patience as he and APC had for Jonathan....

BTW longest time boss...which levels nah?

barcanista:
Na this type wey Whynotthetruth and Agabai23 de like

Sure, I will have her type cleaning the house for me and my mizzzzzzzzzzzzmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyycooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii