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Politics › Re: Jonathan’s Regime Had The Worst Economic Management Team, Says Soludo by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:04pm On Nov 19, 2015
koboko69:
Watch the misguided hungry IPOB youths waiting for Buhari's 5k stipend call one of their own a Yoruba. They can get their 5k stipend after Nnamadi Kanu becomes their president in year 2200!

Ever since Buhari assumed office; He has been clearing all the mess and Bobby traps set for him by the Last administration.

Imagine with the booming oil price over the years with a reserve left at over 150 billion dollars reserve Jonathan, Dansuki, Okonjo, Deziani and others depleted it to as low as 30 billion dollars with nothing to show for it.
If Soludo acknowledged the quoted below and still called Jonathan as having the worst team then it means either Soludo is overrated or hatred is eating him up or political appointment is driving him crazy...

[b]But, according to statistics from NBS, the PDP handed over a $550 billion economy (largest in Africa and 26th in the world), with 7.5% unemployment rate (better than European Union, France, Sweden, Belgium, etc although the underemployment figure is much higher); 32%?? poverty rate (as claimed by the former Finance Minister, or 61%??: NBS needs to clarify this claim); a stock of reserves of $30 billion; GDP growth rate averaging 6% over last 12 years; a relatively more diversified economy, with ICT penetration from 0.2% to over 60%, and a new contributory pension scheme now with trillions of Naira in pension fund. “Our external debt is down although total debt stock is escalating.

Our Gini coefficient (degree of inequality) is not different from China’s. Nigeria hasconsolidated and stronger banking system that currently finances both government debt and the private sector, with a relatively vibrant capital market. The capitalization of the Nigerian Stock Exchange grew from less than N1 trillion to N12 trillion as at handover. For the first time, Nigerian economy is now rated by credit rating agencies (Fitch, and Standard and Poor’s).[/b]”
Jonathan paid minimum wage of 18000 as against 7500 during Obj/Soludo era...paid NYSC 19800 as against 7500 during Obj/Soludo/El-Rufai/Ezekwesili era...How can he save more with over 150% wage increasehuh...Hatred forces some to think upside down...
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Ongoing Road Construction At Ochefu Road Aba by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:36am On Nov 18, 2015
Ponponkon:
Abia is our only state. Together we can achieve great things. Last allocation was 2billion Nigerian Naira but that won't stop our march to greatness. Wayoo wayoo ka eji aracha ofe di oku.
Truth is Abia didn't get just 2billion...because aside her due allocation, she also gets 13% derivation etc unless they have been so indebted to banks that most of their allocations end up in debt servicing...Like I said ab initio, good financial management and sincerity in governance is key...
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Ongoing Road Construction At Ochefu Road Aba by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:31am On Nov 18, 2015
Ponponkon:
On Saturday, November 14, Governor Okezie Victor Ikpeazu of Abia State, paid an unofficial visit to his brother and friend, Dr. Ifeanyi Ubah in Lagos.
Governor Ikpeazu, during the visit, visited some facilities and establishments of Dr Ubah several locations in Lagos.
Governor commended the Nnewi-born oil-magnet and industrialist for his business foresight, but reminded him of the need to invest in Abia State.
Good to know he's talking with some already...But let him kindly remember that aside photo sessions and visits to them that there several factors that influence business decisions and sitting of industries or factories...So to what extent has he established these incentives to investment?...What development/industrial plan did he meet them with aside the usual think-home rhetorichuh...Where specifically does he need each to come in and invest?... What's the sustainability of his plans?
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Ongoing Road Construction At Ochefu Road Aba by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:16pm On Nov 17, 2015
Ponponkon:
To answer some of your questions,yes he has done most of them. Here are picture proofs

Gov okezie ikpeazu meeting with Aba business community on the aegis of Aba Chambers of Commerce led by Chief Anthony Enukeme (TONIMAS) in Abia State Governor's Lodge in Aba...the thrust of their meeting is how to revamp Aba.

He also met with former governor Dr Chukwumeke Ezeife.
Good he's taking some of these initiatives already... We hope it doesn't end up on paper or pipeline ideas only...Best wishes as Aba is truly and humanely transformed again...
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Ongoing Road Construction At Ochefu Road Aba by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:17pm On Nov 17, 2015
Ponponkon:
The government is aware of Obohai road. Please be patience the train of goody would soon locate there.
What plans does he have for waste management?...Can he immediately involve the private sector probably through LGA, but have to regulate and monitor their activities to avoid extortion of masses?...Ensuring a sparkling Abia cum Aba will help alot... not necessarily waiting in the fullness of time cheesy or for improved allocation... People will happily pay for such minor services once they see the dividends and sincerity of government though government should allow for free service at initial stage just as incentive to masses...
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Ongoing Road Construction At Ochefu Road Aba by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:53pm On Nov 17, 2015
Ponponkon:
Can all these works be done at once? Let's give the new government time to work.
1)No it can't be done at once...but I hope he isn't trying to buy people over only to backslide to status quo once he's bought their emotions...I wish Abia can compete with Anambra positively because she has got the potential...

2)Has Ikpeazu considered meeting with some sane Southeast governors cum businessmen for sort of contributory project of mutual importance eg Seaport...Sourcing funding for such project through PPP involving indigenous government and indigenous businessmen isn't hard...It needs just sincerity and dedication...Developing Abia vis a vis Southeast economy should be of Paramount importance to any progressive and sincere leader now...

3)Poor allocation isn't a problem... Good financial management is the ONLY thing required...Peter Obi set Anambra on solid infrastructure and financial setting with NO loan but more savings, while his colleagues were rushing to take loans...

4)Ability to cut off sycophants and godfathers is key here...Masses will support him 200% if he's found to be sincere...Peter Obi proved this against Obj in 2003/2007...

more later...kudos
Politics › Re: Ijaws Are Non-natives Of Rivers State. by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:43pm On Nov 16, 2015
Ikengawo:
Please bonny is not igbo. Bonny is a Crebgo because we are a south south creek rivirine. Igbo is a soiline and inlandine. My fathers favorite prostitute told me this, she is a Deligbo from delta state shocked
gringringrin
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 9:23pm On Nov 16, 2015
Eastlink:
Observing! But you are on point though.
Thanks all same
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 9:15pm On Nov 16, 2015
Freemanan:
I guess I inspired the Op....

angry


Nice one chief
This guy sef wink
All same thanks...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 9:13pm On Nov 16, 2015
bokohalal:
huh?
Itsekiri, Yoruba, Igbo and Urhobo/Isoko. The different ways they call the people lin Benin Kingdom . The people call themselves EDO.
wink Thanks bro...But do BINI still discriminate against or intimidate the Ika abi Igbanke people who were unfortunate to be merged into Edo state?
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 9:08pm On Nov 16, 2015
adaweezy:
Find out yourself na besides that's not my ethnic group, If you know that the southerners are more than the southerners, simply put there is no point telling you about their migration patterns.
NB: They are not related to the South-easterners or South-southerners
You made a blanket statement which I wanted an empirical evidence for...you did fail because the list you duplicated above for me still failed to meet up the criteria of language, cultural and religious distinctiveness...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 8:55pm On Nov 16, 2015
OnReflection:
If you ask me, nah who I go ask

More seriously, now, on the issue of distinct culture, I think self-identification has to be honoured.
Think of the way the US population census is now conducted...


Source:http://time.com/3087649/census-race-ethnicity-report/


Source:https://www.census.gov/population/race/about/faq.html
1)Ethnicity is the only viable option in Nigeria not race as America...

2)Begin a campaign because I presume you to be from SW educating your folks that Igbo aren't wrong in reminding all about their brothers in other states thanks to political balkanization of Igbo after the war...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 8:37pm On Nov 16, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Most times I become wary of these back and forth debate on what our kinsmen over the river believe they are.

SE has never denied Nzeogwu as one of ours in other to exonerate ourselves from the blames of the first coup

What baffles me is that we suffer the same fate when conflict arises.

Looking at it from another perspective, nobody wants to be associated with vanquish hence let's forgive them and persuade them to come back to the fold, we are still one people and a formidable ethnic group.
Nzeogwu and co xrays hypocrisy of Nigeria on a marble ...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 8:35pm On Nov 16, 2015
bokohalal:
Na wa. Bros, I speak Edo language. I am EDO!
The word BINI is unknown to an Edo. The Oba is called OMO N OBA N EDO.
Bini , Ado , Idu , Aka etc are some of the names by which an EDO is called by outsiders.
I am ovbi EDO!
There is no way in this world that I would say " I am ovbi BINI " and it will make sense to an Edo.
Yes,there is an Edo ethnicity and people that speak related languages from which EDO state is derived.
What's the difference between the bolded?
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 8:16pm On Nov 16, 2015
adaweezy:
Why dont you got a Public Library and read thesis or project works on the ethnicities, ethnic groups and nations In Nigeria.
The North has more ethnic groups than the south
Bolded is just as true as the census figure of Nigeria...otherwise support your statement with empirical evidence wink
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 8:10pm On Nov 16, 2015
OnReflection:
When is a tribe part of an ethnic group? Nah who I go ask? cool




Source: www.onlinenigeria.com/tribes/
If the assertion or groupings in this link is right ;

1)Why are Igbo termed land grabbers or expansionists or such other derogatory names when they opine there are Igbo in Benue or Rivers etc?

2)What is the historical evidence that all these groups are distinct culturally, religiously etc
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 7:37pm On Nov 16, 2015
adaweezy:
Jukun - mumunye
Christians - Muslims
Larger - Smaller
bear English names - Bear Muslim names
Mainly Catholic - Celebrate Festivals
Fetish - Very Engrossed in different Islamic ideologies
Mainly traders - Civil servants and Islamic scholars
Besides Taraba state has More Christians than Muslims, Thats why No Muslim has ever been substantive governor of the state.
thanks...Can you drop some hints about the migration history these two ethnic groups?
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:33pm On Nov 16, 2015
Aufbauh:
Op you have to do more research before you come into conclusion by just relying on someone's knowledge that maybe inconclusive.

An ‘ethnic group’ has been defined as a group that regards itself or is regarded by others as a distinct community by virtue of certain characteristics that will help to distinguish the group from the surrounding community. Ethnicity is considered to be shared characteristics such as culture, language, religion, and traditions, which contribute to a person or group’s identity.

Ethnicity has been described as residing in:

• the belief by members of a social group that they are culturally distinctive and different to outsiders;

• their willingness to find symbolic markers of that difference (food habits, religion, forms of dress, language) and to emphasise their significance; and

• their willingness to organise relationships with outsiders so that a kind of ‘group boundary’ is preserved and reproduced


This shows that ethnicity is not necessarily genetic. It also shows how someone might describe themselves by an ethnicity different to their birth identity if they reside for a considerable time in a different area and they decide to adopt the culture, symbols and relationships of their new community.

It is worth noting that the Traveller Community is recognised as a distinct ethnic group in the UK and Northern Ireland, but only as a distinct cultural group in the Republic of Ireland.
smh...

1)Which part of my post did the bolded contradict?

2)Nationalizing in a country grants you legal authority to be called an indigene but doesn't confer the moral cum cultural identity of same people on you...A British nationalizing in my community can become one of us...but can easily be picked out by a visitor...

3)And nationalization has NOTHING to do with ethnic identity... don't mix up the two...Ethnicity is more of a "natural" occurance while the other is "nurture" occurance ...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:10pm On Nov 16, 2015
adaweezy:
They have different cultural, religious beliefs eg compare and Contrast Jukun and Mumunye Ethnic groups.... Some ethnic Nationalities have not up to 10,000 people and there ways of life amongst other things.....
I cant even find my ethnic group amongst the ones listed above
Can you give specific examples where the bolded differ from their livelihood, cultural and religious identity... thanks
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:09pm On Nov 16, 2015
adaweezy:
In taraba Alone there are almost 40 Ethnic groups with different languages, unfortunately the major languages are overshadowing the Minorities
Wow...good to know...but can you take us on their cultural and religious distinctiveness aside language disparity from other people within and around...thanks
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:04pm On Nov 16, 2015
Lalasticlala, Obinoscopy, Seun ...it may interest you to take this to homepage for more robust discussion... thanks
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:58pm On Nov 16, 2015
Junior66:
I am talking of languages with no afinity at all. For instance, in the middlebelt, state, the Igalas, Ebiras, Bassas, Okuns, Idomas, Tivs, Jukuns, etc are not even remotely related. This is just a small part of the middle belt.
That does not make them a unique ethnic group...Tell me about their cultural and religious identity or uniqueness...that's the basis of this argument...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:55pm On Nov 16, 2015
kingofdemons:
lol grin
ishiamu:
Otoro gbagbu nne I Ebe a
I appreciate the both of you...Seems you're the CSO of this thread and other threads...forcing dissidents to use their brain better cheesy
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:51pm On Nov 16, 2015
Stolen:
U need to get your facts right before speaking. Edo is the name of a state not an ethnic group. There is nothing like Edo ethnic group or Edo tribe. What u have is Bini, Esan Igbanke etc.
Sorry bro...thanks so much...What I had in mind is Bini ...Would appreciate further input...thanks
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:47pm On Nov 16, 2015
Junior66:
OP, pls there is nothing like Hausa-Fulani‚ the two are entirely different ethnic groups. To your topic‚ i can count more than 50 languages. Go to north-eastern and Central Nigeria, you go count languages tire.
thanks corrected...

@bolded...Are those languages accompanied by cultural, religious and other historical homogeneity or simply a particular language evolving over time just like every language has done and keeps doing overtime?...because language alone doesn't make you a distinct ethnic group...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:41pm On Nov 16, 2015
jejemanito:
Yet you selfish lot decried Kachikwu's appointment stating that he wasn't a core Igbo undecided
1)Kindly drop a link where Igbo did say the above...

2)Do you understand the difference when a Yoruba from Kwara state say he's not from Southwest or do they sound same to you?
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:38pm On Nov 16, 2015
ishiamu:
cheesy grin
Why u def laf nah? Err your view jare
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:36pm On Nov 16, 2015
kingofdemons:
educative piece

nice one bro but longest time oooo cheesy grin how far naa grin
cheesy Am fine boss...thanks so much...We have got to subject some fallacies to the sanctuary of empirical verification... and see their extent of veracity...
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:33pm On Nov 16, 2015
Ejaisky:
Igbo people nor dey tire huh
Why not stand by the side if you have no intelligent input here outside your bandwagon mentality undecided
Politics › Re: Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:22pm On Nov 16, 2015
Cc Duru1, ezeagu, Eastlink, Beremx, xetima, mezabull, IsraeliAirforce,
Politics › Proliferation Of Ethnic Groups In Nigeria... by Whynotthetruth(op):
The impression that Nigeria is made up of 250 or 300 ethnic groups is not true. At the conference of Nationalities convened by the Campaign for Democracy (CD) in Lagos in 1999, participant overwhelmingly identified thirty-four (34) ethnic nationalities in Nigeria namely Hausa, Fulani, Igbo, Yoruba, Bini, Ibibio, Efik, Ogoni, Ijaw, Nupe, Itsekiri, Tiv, Oron, Igala, Edoma, Kanuri, Urhobo, Gwari, Zango -Kataf etc.

What many linguistics mistake to mean autonomous languages and therefore distinct ethnicities are dialects or variants of standard languages. Due to some misunderstanding among linguistics, the contention had remained that any dialect which autograph could be developed is no longer a variant of its original language.

[b]The point is that language difference alone does not constitute a people into an ethnic nationality. Other characteristics include distinction in culture and religion. Therefore, since the cultures and religions and even histories of a people claiming to be different nationalities are same and their dialects only variants of one language, such people are not people of different ethnic nationalities.

For further illustration, Igbo has different dialects...Nsukka has a different dialect so also Enugu Ezike, UDI, Ezeagu, Ebonyi state etc. An Anambra man may not understand them but understands Anioma dialect or even some Rivers state Igbo dialect more easily. All these are different dialects of Igbo language that has evolved and keeps evolving...But in all, the homogeneity in culture, religion etc are intact...So they are Igbo...Even if they choose to deny their Igbo origin today for political convenience or other selfish reasons...it doesn't change the fact that they are Igbo...That I disown my father doesn't make me the son of another man or remove my father's DNA from my body[/b]...Balkanization of Igbo after the civil war didn't help matters...as well as political inconvenience of being Igbo at that time...

The Igbo experience may not be same for other areas in Nigeria, who may have their own tales...but claiming home to about 250/300 ethnic groups is a farce.

Copied from Arthur Agwuncha Nwankwo timeline and slightly edited by me...Thanks and God bless
Politics › Re: Thread For South South Igbos by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:14am On Nov 16, 2015
explorer250:
I will create a thread to celebrate reputable sons of ss igbo extraction
we truely need to break the siege of the enemy
Kindly do this...and mention historians like duru1, ezeagu etc to assist you...Unless you counter their propaganda, it will stick as truth...success nwanne

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