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Kobojunkie:
So, the verse you quoted was God telling you that the people will bless you, not Him?
So by your understanding, when you show people the way out of darkness into light, the people will pay you and you will get your hundred fold that way?
Yet Jesus Christ and His disciples who also showed people the way out of darkness into light, and none of them had anything, not nearly as much as you and your pastor each claim, to their names?

My friend you will be daft to say Jesus and his disciples had nothing. I just showed you and your friend up there that Jesus had a treasurer- he had people ministering their substance to Him all the time. Don’t be so blind to the truth my friend. I pray you will not die in poverty my friend with the way you think about money. Amen

You don’t see anything wrong in people that promote things like abortion having money. But for people like us using it to promote the kingdom of God we are your greatest headache. If you continue this way, I promise you that your pains and pangs are just starting. We are just getting started with kingdom prosperity.

Kobojunkie:
So, the verse you quoted was God telling you that the people will bless you, not Him?

That verse was God telling us he would bless us. This one is Paul telling us through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that people will bless us.

1 Cor 9:11 If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things?

Kobojunkie:
So the 10K buildings are properties that belong solely to the pastor of your church then?
Oyedepo, the man, owns all those properties?

No sir he doesn’t, the church owns it. But Oyedepo owns so many properties just like Jesus promised- I do too. How? When you show people the way out of darkness into light, they will naturally bless you with so much substance. You need understanding my friend.

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Oya which verse for bible dem talk dis one again

Lol. Come to church, you go learn all these scriptures. My friend you are so funny

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Even the verse the verse you quoted does not portray jesus collecting money or asking anybody to give him money inform of tithe and offering

Let me help your vocabulary my friend. Substance is money. This was part of the substance that went into his treasury that Judas was stealing from.

Kobojunkie:
God is happy that you are going to 10K churches this year?
Are you referring to the same God that said...

I’m referring to the God that said:

Mark 10: 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

You shouldn’t need me to explain this scripture to you? You see that persecution in that scripture is what people like you are doing to the body of Christ to fulfill scriptures, but I assure you we are enjoying it

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oya State which verse or chapter in the bible that potrays jesus collecting money or salary from anyone

Luke 8: 1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,
2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

That’s just one example out of many my friend. I don’t know why you lots associate money with evil. Money is not evil, it is the love of it that the Bible says is evil. Money is just for transactions. You need money to do anything worthwhile on this planet- this includes spreading the gospel. Relax and get understanding before you judge unreasonably my friend.

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But jesus and his disciples never collected money or salary from anybody to preach the gospel they did it all for free but nowadays pastos like adeboye collect huge sums from their members in form of tithe and offering never the less i know a fanatic like you will not take note of this

Are you so naive my friend? Didn’t you read that Jesus had a treasurer in the person of Judas? At a point he was even stealing from the purse. What was Jesus doing with the money in the treasury? Don’t be so daft. To spread the gospel requires cash. That’s why the last days church will be so prosperous- for world evangelism my friend. Try to connect the dots...

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ Himself did not go to the temple to heal people inside of the temple. He went to were the people were to find them and heal them.
The world churches are nothing but glorified social clubs, and not hospitals since even this man pretends that if the people do not come with their faith, they get no healing.
There is no access to God? Is this a joke?
First of all, Coronavirus is not Ebola. Secondly, there is a 14 day wait period for Corona-symptoms in the case of infection, and if symptoms were absent, then you can go for antibody test to know if you possibly got it but were asymptomatic.
LOL... should I quote what Jesus Christ said about many who will claim to be His prophets and do so much in His name but do not know Him?
Yet, Jesus Christ did most of his healing out in the field and in the places where those He healed lived?
Your churches are nothing but glorified social clubs.
Only the one's you have contracted with, will do that. When Hospital does not work, God sends you to find Him. Look up the story of the woman with the issue of blood.
Fear God!

So pained over what is making God super happy. We are still going to 10k churches this year. Wait for it. Your pains and pangs have just started you “gates of hell!”

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Where do they get the salaries from

Straight from heaven. Heaven’s bank. We are still going to 10k churches this year whether Satan likes it or not my friend. Heaven has very bigggg banks

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Iyai yooo





suffer don dey reach dis one side fa

e wan make dem open church so that e go cash out small from corona seed sowing, tithe and offering.




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The last time I checked, winners had established more than 2000 new churches this year alone, even in the midst of the lockdown. Each of these churches will have 2 full time pastors on full salaries and accommodation fully paid. Do the maths my friend. If you think say suffer dey catch us. Think again

“…Every genuine revival is not made up of great speeches where people are just clapping but great convictions, great salvations, great ingathering of multitudes. That is what Biblical revival is about. It is not about you debating doctrines that don’t make anything.”

“Sir, without the fear of the Lord, you don’t have a place in Heaven. I don’t care what Grace message anybody preaches”

“1 Corinthians 6:9 ‘Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,’
The man who wrote Grace text is the one who wrote that. If your faith is ending here, no problem but if you have any goal of getting There, you better trash any nonsense and go for the Truth that sets free and secures eternity.”

“…know ye not…” because if nobody talks about it, they will think they are right. Sir, you can’t be more right than scriptures no matter your theology.”

“Why are they putting people in prison? For breaking moral laws and then you say God doesn’t care. You will know that He does. Hell is real!!!”

“1 Corinthians 6:10-11 ‘Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such WERE some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.’”

“If it is not past tense, you will pass with it. Salvation makes those issues of defilement, issues of the past. What Grace does is to empower us for dominion over sin, it is not a license for sin.
Matthew 7:21-23”

“How many truly want to make Heaven? A revival is said to occur when walking in the fear of God becomes a way of life for the redeemed.
There can’t be revival when sin is condoned…”

“Church is not a club, it is God’s clinic:
For setting free the captives!
For healing of the sick!”

“I can tell why the devil is angry worldwide, against people going to Church. That is God’s healing centre.
Did they close the hospitals? Why must you close the Church?”

“Many destinies are tied to the healing Jesus.
Many doctors know there are cases they can never handle and they say, “except God”
And…there is no access to God.”

“As at yesterday, we saw 94 corona virus cases till date. Health workers: someone was laying hands as a health worker, he didn’t contact it.”

“Church is not a club, it is not a cult. It is an open platform. Cult people don’t meet during the day.
It is not a club, it’s not a cult. Church is God’s clinic.
And I’m one of His prophets sent to this generation for the liberation of mankind from all oppression of the devil.”

“I can tell you the devil has lost the battle.
If they say, what did he say today, he said, ‘CHURCH IS NOT A CLUB. IT IS GOD’S CLINIC FOR THE LIBERATION OF MANKIND AND HE IS HEALING WHAT DOCTORS CAN’T HANDLE’”

“Church is God’s reference clinic. When doctors are tired, they send you to church and church sets you free. Glory to God.”

“They sent someone here from Germany, everything that could be done was done. He could not defecate. As he got to the gate of the Church, not inside the Church…”

“That’s why Church is God’s reference clinic, when all the doctors in the world have done their best, they send you to Church because one small pastor is there, one small children Sunday School child is there, “be healed in the name of Jesus”; then what doctors cannot do is done and for free, no side effect.
That is why the devil is angry at the Church!!!”

I said I will be back to give the conclusion of this true life story. Please, if you didn’t read the first part, do so, to have a better understanding.

... Later that evening, I tried calling Tola but he didn’t pick up. Also I was on his WhatsApp, I left him some messages, he read them but he didn’t reply. At this point I knew there was still some fire on the mountain, so I started praying in the spirit for God to strengthen him.

Early the next morning Tola replied my WhatsApp messages, “All glory to God sir. We had stillbirth. But she’s still responding. Ministry will keep growing in your hands. Thanks for all you have done. Glory be to God.” He then took to his WhatsApp status and started thanking God in wonderful ways for His goodness over his family.

I was happy at this but the Spirit of God kept nudging me, telling me that with God nothing is impossible, that even the dead child can come back to life. So I quickly replied him, “Don’t take half testimony sir. Go for your full package. This is not the first time babies pronounced dead will come back to life. Go and anoint her and see the miracle bro! Keep reading Isaiah 8:18 aloud and slot your baby’s name. She will jerk back to life! Just like you didn’t let the spirit of death take away your wife, don’t let him take away your child. Apply the same word and you’d see the miracle bro. It has happened before, and this won’t be the last time it will happen.” He replied, “I will do that.”

I waited all day for his call but he didn’t call. I tried calling him but he didn’t pick up.

The following morning he was on my WhatsApp again, “Pastor good morning. God bless you today. I missed your calls. Thank you. I should have called. But just running around noni. God be praised.” I replied, “Amen. Yes I was calling to check on you. Thank God. I get it. God will give you rest on every side! How is your wife now? Did you do what I told you?” He replied, “I did. Just thank God for all he has done. I said, “Okay. Thank God. You got what you wanted. You got your wife back from the spirit of death. You will not sorrow in life in Jesus’ name. I will call you soon.”

I called him and this time he picked up. I asked him how it all went. In his words, “Pastor my wife is now stable, I am still running around trying to get the hospital balance. I did what you told me oh, BUT I DID NOT HAVE THE FAITH, but we still thank God.”

I prayed for him, “God will console you with great joy in the name of Jesus. He will cause you and your wife to laugh again in the name of Jesus. Just relax and have faith and trust in God always.” THE END.

sonmvayina:
Why should I believe in him?.. Who is he anyway?.. Do you believe in super man or incredible hulk?

My friend, we are saying the same thing. Since you don’t believe in him, there is no need discussing with you sir. No hard feelings. Let those of us that believe in him keep enjoying his goodness. Let what you believe in keep blessing you too. No fight at all

No more business stagnation, and no more business frustration. You are breaking forth on every side in the name of Jesus!

Your lineage shall become a lineage of wealthy people in the name of Jesus!

You and your children’s children will enjoy a good old age in the mighty name of Jesus!

Every work of your hand begins to prosper now in the name of Jesus!

onlyfacts:
I have made my point already. I'll catch you later in the future when you come to defend your pastor concerning the matter of your topic. Bye.

Okay sir

sonmvayina:
I have read all from Genesis to malachi.. That is the problem.. I did not find any..

Just give me one, so u can check again please..

You see why I said Jesus is a Roman creation..

My friend you are not a Christian yet, so I won’t waste my time trying to explain what you don’t believe in to you. It will be like a traditional worshipper trying to convince me about his beliefs. When you believe in Jesus we’d talk sir.

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy

Miracle Job via Soul-Winning!

At the beginning of the year, I believed God for supernatural turnaround. When the operation for the year(soul winning) was declared, I committed myself to it.

I also placed myself under a oath to deliver my seven established souls in this Church, or God should count me out of His blessing package for everyone engaging this year. I am not ready to play Church with this prophetic season at all.

Presently, by the grace of God, I have nurtured and established more than seven souls in this church. Then God showed up, the organization I submitted my Curriculum Vitae (CV) to at the beginning of the year invited me for interview during the Week of Spiritual Emphasis for July 1, On Friday, I attended the interview.

Four people were called for the interview, but to the glory of God, I was the only one chosen. Though I was the least qualified, God’s grace distinguished me. I have picked up my employment letter with good packages.

Esegene, T.

sonmvayina:
Can I get some old testament prophesies/passages to support your claim... Please..

My friend if you are too lazy to find prophesies about Jesus in the Old Testament go and sit down. Let people ready for the power of God build their faith in Jesus, get their deliverance and move ahead with their lives. Sit down there. Your case is a very special one my friend, just keep waiting...

sonmvayina:
Lol.. I will let you wallow in your ignorance,.. You don't look like somebody who want to learn..


So which old testament prophet did God tell about this plan with regards to Amos 3 :7..

All the prophets directly or indirectly prophesied about Jesus my friend. My friend your case is a very special one

sonmvayina:
Lol.. The Jews don't have a new testament... It is a creation of the Romans to make mockery of the creator... They added it at the back of the Jewish scriptures to deceive you..


You fell for it...

You just decided to defeat yourself by throwing away the better of the two testaments my friend. But I promise you, you’d come around sooner than later. You must think you are wiser than all the Christians? Well the Bible says just the contrary about you. I pray you don’t stay that way for long

sonmvayina:
What is the spiritual implications of the death of Jesus?

You should read the Bible with understanding my friend. Jesus died to redeem man that had a died spiritually back to God in eternal life. Thereby giving us access back to the abundant life in God. If Jesus didn’t die, man would have remained dead spiritually.

sonmvayina:
I guess God was joking when he gave that commandment... Well I choose to obey it.. My creator means we'll for me...

So I won't belittle him by worshipping a dead jew as God.. He will punish me.. Same reason the Jews won't have anything to do with Jesus... They know he is just a Roman creation..

Why embarrass yourself on a public forum my friend? Stop celebrating ignorance, it is very embarrassing. You picked a scripture out of the Old Testament but you won’t believe the New Testament in the same Bible? If you won’t believe in Jesus that means you shouldn’t believe in the Bible as a whole. Please this explanation should be for children. Behave yourself and get some spiritual sense my friend.

sonmvayina:
Lol.. Quit worshipping a white dude as God, it is idolatry..

Grow up,

Worshipping a man as God is no different from a man from mbese worshipping a snake..

God's commandment is "do not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them."
Worshipping the likeness of a man as God is tantamount to idolatry.. Stop it.

Get understanding of spiritual things my friend.

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Miracle Babies through prophetic contact

I got married in 2014 and trusted God for the fruit of the womb. In 2016, I was invited to this church for Covenant Day of Fruitfulness. So, I came to church with three baby clothes as point of contact.

While the service was going on, I told God that I would return home with three babies. In 2017, I was confirmed pregnant. Today, the three children I asked for are here and they are boys. God did this for me at the age of 50. I give God all the glory!

Virginia Nzeribe

onlyfacts:
You don't know what minding ones business is. Next time post it in your church WhatsApp group and see if I will come there and trouble you....Always changing goal post.

I don’t know what you have with goalposts my friend. I see you love that phrase a lot- you have used it in almost all your comments.lol. Anyway, there was just one goalpost till you came and started shifting here and there, spewing rubbish about what you know nothing about.

The only goalpost here is: for you to receive anything from God you must have faith in him, it is not by abracadabra.

Geeman23:
Paul the apostle conquer Ed the whole of Asia minor just with his body, mouth The gospel spread in the city of Jerusalem by ordinary men who were not using church as undercover to suphon the contribution of the brethren to build their personal empires.

Your ohrase " the church is marching on " is a mimd control tactics to deceive gullible christians that the prosperity of winner chapel means the prosperity of the church.. You have learnt that psyching from your master oyedepo.

The church is not marching anywhere. What is marching is the figures that rolls in every Sunday from which cheap PR men like you are been fed to do online job to keep the enslaved in mental chain.

I know you are irredeemably greedy. God will help you.

Winners I emphasize again is a SCAM. I studied the system. People like you are hired to promote it.

You must really be pained by this money thing that winners has and boasts about. When I say the church is marching on I am not talking about winners alone my friend. I am talking about all the churches of Christ worldwide. Here in Nigeria. Let me mention some of these bodies of Christ- winners, redeemed, deeper life, assemblies, Salvation Army, etc. You know them already now.

All these churches are not paupers. They are in very great financial fortune. Why again? To spread the gospel to all nations of the world.

The reason you are pained about winners is that we keep ringing it in the ears of the world- let me shock you- that is how you get more prosperity in the kingdom of God. Your pains will continue till eternity if you don’t repent now. Cos after you are long gone, the church of Christ- including winners will continue to prosper till the return of Jesus.

Geeman23:
God. The message of Jesus is not Money. His message i.e what the gospel is about is not what winner chapel is preaching. His message is John 3;16.

Stop the delusion that calling people to winner chapel using money as bait as souls for the kingdom.


They have won you as a soul. But it is clear that you are not saved unto Christ. You are only saved unto the ministry of oyedepo.


Souls are those won by the right message. The evidence of that is that they shall be ushered into a new testament of sonship and fatherhood relationship with our Father by the holy Spirit.


A saved soul testify of Jesus and the ressurection and the holyspirit. He doesn't testify of Money like you.


You are not saved unto Christ.


You are not part of God's kindgdom.

The testimony of Jesus is the seal of prophecy in Gods kingdom.


God's kingdom is not church. It is not that edifice in ota or any winner chapel branch.


Gods kingdom is the body of Men.


You are lost with the wrong message.

Lol. This your thinking is very shallow my friend. Jesus came to deliver mankind from ALL the oppressions of the devil- spiritual death, sickness, poverty, frustrations, failure, stagnation, etc. He came to give man life- more abundantly. John 10:10.

Jesus did not just come to take you to heaven my friend. This is where you have been missing it. Jesus came so that life over here can become like heaven for us. Then after living an abundant life here we’d go continue that in heaven.

You are not here to suffer my friend. You need the scales in your eyes removed so you can see the real essence of salvation my friend.

Stop believing those lies from the devil that winners’ people are going to hell because they believe in prosperity. Satan is just trying to keep you in hell on earth by that lie my friend.

Geeman23:
is ut Bible verse they use to invent the aeroplane or knowledge and mastery of physics. Is it the Bible America is using to record giant strides in military and ecenomuc strength or basic economic laws and millitary conquest tactics.
Who cares about bibble in natural development.


I can see you are have gain mastery of fallacy and mind game like your mentor oyedepo. You want to appeal to America to score a cheap emotional point using the Bible as a tool of fallacy.

America didn't didn't develop by any Bible principles. No nation grows with religion.

Israel has a nice for science, tech, Millitary. Religion never made Israel self what they are


Imagine seun osewa searching the Bible for principle to create Nairaland, refusing to learn computer programming. I am sure you won't be online typing your dust with multiple accounts.

Like oyedepo You lack spiritual intelligence. Oyedepo is however naturally smarter than you, because with his brain although fraudulently he has create one of the biggest religious Ponzi ever on the continent of Africa. He is smart.


I advise you to use your brain for something productive too other than typing online to promote your slave master.


Learn skills. Read and feed your mind.

Jesus is waiting for you if you are ready to leave greed for money and follow him to the cross. He is waiting for you with baptism by his spirit into God's kingdom. Bye.

It is a pity that the devil got you this blind my friend. Money is not anti-God like you think. You need money to do anything worthwhile in life- we need money to spread the gospel to every nation of the world.

What is getting you so pained is the wrong calculations you are doing about how we spend this money- and it is so much I must tell you. You think we spend the tithes and offerings of the worshippers on ourselves. You are wrong my friend. These monies are used to push the gospel to nations of the earth- this is the essence of money in the kingdom of God. Stop thinking that these monies go into anyone’s account my friend. I believe if you can reprogram your mind to this, your pains and pangs will reduce.

If you can’t reprogram your mind to this truth, then get ready, your pains have just begun- we are just in the beginning stages of kingdom prosperity my friend. Before the return of Jesus, there will be so much prosperity in the church for the evangelism of the world

Geeman23:
You are deliberately playing dumb or have become dumb by your messages by uttering this statement. Mompha, hush puppy, investor bj and the rest cybercriminal had money. The same money you are boasting if is what emoney blows like powder wherever he goes.

Jesus didn't use money to preach his kingdom. Winner chapel is a scam. Lure people with promise of money. Ponzi style, bet naija style. 2 sure with tithe offering by faith to collect audio blessing that doesn't exist.


It is sad charlattans like oyedepo have hijack the poverty in Africa to acquire wealth fro the poor using their greed to lure them.



If you want to be rich you don't need any God or even any human being to pray for you. Just follow the rules. Either pure or dirty money. You will have money.


Grow up man. Stop being petty because of what they pay you to be yarning dust here. Your integrity and stand before God should deter you from popuplating the workshop of a charlattan and false preacher of the gospel. Awake to righteousness.

Stop saying rubbish my friend! How can you say Jesus didn’t use money to preach the gospel? Didn’t you ever read that Jesus had a treasurer in the person of Judas? In fact the money in the treasury was so much that Judas was stealing out of the purse. Didn’t you ever read that too? Yet you come here and embarrass your ignorant self. What was Jesus using that money for? Let me enlighten you a little. When Judas left the company of Jesus suddenly to betray him, the disciples thought he went out to give money to the poor- that was part of what Jesus was doing with the ministry money- charity. Don’t remain dumb when their are teachers all around you my friend.

Instead of calling more souls into the kingdom of God like Jesus commanded us, you are here trying to pose as a gate of hell. No gate of hell can prevail. You are easily crushed. The church must keep marching on my friend.

Geeman23:
just as I expected the chain of religion on your mind is big. Look at the modern world and see if anything that came ever came by faith. From technology, science, agriculture, politics. Sit down well, devote like one hour and think by your brain for yourself. Come out of the cul de sac of religion and embrace reality. Faith didn't do the miracle of Jesus. Real spiritual power did it. People only received by faith ( another word for believe). Hoping on faith for things of life that have principles is tantamount to stupidity especially in the case of a powerless cabals of Christian leaders like oyedepo.

Seen osewa has built the biggest forum in Africa without your useless faith.


Our world would not be what it is in advancement if men were to rely on faith.


Mind you the idol you worship didn't rely on faith to build his massive Ponzi scheme church. He employs pschology, religious charismatism with twisting if the scripture hype around faith to rob you blind.

I know they pay your for the p r work you are doing online. Your product oyedepo is bad.

You keep saying rubbish my friend, yet you think you know so much that’s why you talk so much. Go back to history and you’d find out that most of the top schools in the world today are Christian schools that are been run by the principles of the Word of God even till this day. You should do a research.

Even America that is the headquarters of all the innovations you have been talking about, go into their history and you’d see that they were born out of Bible values. They literally Have bible passages in their constitution- ditto United Kingdom. So please stop spewing rubbish. You can never push faith aside till forever my friend. You either align with it or you get swept away by challenges of life.