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Christianity EtcRe: How We Bought 530 Acres In Cananland Before Informing The Church! Bishop Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 7:17pm On Jul 09, 2020
Amotolongbo:
thrash as expected!

You could prove that your spirit theory based on reality?
I could prove it through the word of God. If you don’t believe in the word of God there is no need wasting my time with you. You are free to believe whatever you believe, I have that freedom too. Don’t be a dunce!
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 7:12pm On Jul 09, 2020
Kobojunkie:
So, why do I, or anyone for that matter, need your MOG if all that is needed is one's own faith? undecided

How can he be building God's Kingdom? undecided
Did God say He needs His Kingdom built? undecided
According to Jesus Christ, the Kingdom already exists.... and In his father's House there are many mansions already and He goes there to prepare(not build) for his followers a place. undecided
So again, what is your MOG building when God's Kingdom already exists? undecided
Obviously, it cannot be God's kingdom but his, Or else God is made a liar by him(your MOG). undecided
I don't need to ask about how your MOG gets the work done since that information you already provided... with the money and sweat of the flock that belongs to the Shephard, Jesus Christ. undecided
Yes, your MOG seems to believe that when God said He, God, will bless him, God meant your MOG should take all he can from the sheep He, God, asked Him to feed and care for. undecided
What faith?
The faith to take from the weak to feed one's own desires and dreams? You are right, anyone can do it. undecided
You need MOGs to teach you how faith works. With all the MOGs in town, people like you have still decided to shut down your minds to knowledge. That why we need more MOGs to keep teaching until your mind opens up my friend.

Faith is all you need to receive from God my friend. We will keep accomplishing unimaginable feats by our faith. Winning souls into the kingdom of God like never witnessed before in the history of the world. In the process God is blessing us in ways that will totally shut down your imagination. Learn how faith works and I guarantee you, all these confusion and bitterness will end, otherwise your frustrations continue.
Christianity EtcRe: How We Bought 530 Acres In Cananland Before Informing The Church! Bishop Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 6:39pm On Jul 09, 2020
Amotolongbo:
You can’t understand anyway, since everything you know is attached to the spirit and nothing happens normally.
Only if you understood that the real you is a spirit. If you don’t understand the things of the spirit, my sister, you have not even started living yet. Get understanding.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 6:33pm On Jul 09, 2020
desiredhome:
I hope one day the scale will be off your eyes like a lot people are coming out to realize that they've been in darkness and had wasted years in the scamming business of oyedepo the chief scammer.......
But you said you were not pained? Now your pains and pangs are coming to light and I see you are no more laughing like when you first started commenting. Oyedepo is a faith man that is trying to teach you how to use your own faith. The same things he has accomplished, you can accomplish too, and even more. But, my friend you need faith. Humble yourself learn how faith works and you won’t need all these bitterness and hatred- cos they will keep sinking you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 6:24pm On Jul 09, 2020
Geeman23:
alot of the people you teach faith are low lifers here in my street poor believing in your useless faith which has turn them into miserable beigns. A lot of them in ogun. In Ibadan.

I know you are programmed to always repeat the same thing. Money success. Your useless seduction against ignorant ones.

Your own povertypmovert is what make you earn a living by selling your soul to defend fraud.

Your mates are soaring with intelligence in science, business, art, agriculture, you are here hoping on faith. Dumb one. Sell that Elon musk, Zuckerberg, bill gates, Jeff vezos, seen osewa, Wizkid, Linda ikeji.

The best you can get from oyedepo is the porridge they pay you to yarn dust online, he has already positioned his sons to atkr over the empire of fraud.

You are sacrificung what you can achieve with intelligence for the useless money hey you.

You are a slave to the empire of oyedpo paying you.

Come out and be liberated.





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All your words are filled with pains and pangs. I told you, your pains are just starting.

My friend, you can only teach people faith, you cannot force faith on anyone. With faith I have accomplished so much in life- and I shall keep doing more, that you cannot accomplish without faith in 100 life times. I only wish you knew how faith works, so that you can be liberated from the oppressions and bitterness in your life.

And this faith is not rocket science o. Something I can easily teach you, but the devils in you that have vowed to destroy you young will not let you be humble enough to learn. Honestly I may seem like your enemy on this platform because you have decided to be very daft, but in reality I am your friend, and you are in my prayers for the devil to leave you alone so you can embrace faith and enjoy a glorious life. For without faith you CANNOT receive anything from God my friend.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 6:14pm On Jul 09, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Pushing the kingdom of God or pushing his own kingdom forward? undecided
By building 10K churches where God never asked anyone to build him anything? undecided

So when God said He does not inhabit structures built by man, He lied? undecided
Since you never answered when asked of the meaning of God's righteousness which you would have found had you obeyed and sought after the Kingdom of God, not your kingdom, and God's righteousness, not yours, I will still go ahead and ask anyways because it is of great importance to God.
What about works of righteousness, the works that God says is the only way to become a Sheep, worthy of entering His kingdom? undecided

Learn faith? What is the meaning of faith? Why don't you enlighten me here? undecided
My friend, since I came across you on this platform one thing I have been trying to do is enlighten you about faith. But up till now, you seem not to be catching up. Faith is simply believing the word of God, and applying it, then God performs what you have believed. That’s the simply definition I can give you. For example, you feel sick, but the word of God says by the stripes of Jesus we were healed(1 Pet 2:24), so you believe Jesus healed you (past tense) by his stripes and confess it, the God heals you. That’s a good example of how faith works.

To your question about whether he is building his own kingdom or God’s kingdom. He is building God’s kingdom and making it very beautiful in the process. These churches he is establishing is to house the people of God. We won’t want the flock of Christ staying under sheds my friend- they deserve the very best. Now, one question you may want to ask is how is he getting all these work done. It’s very simple- BY FAITH. He just believes the word of God for prosperity, for revival, for enlargement, for success, for healing, for vision, for wisdom, for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, etc. And by this he is getting things done with ease. Remember with faith ALL things are possible.

Anyone can get things done like this with faith- even you. He won’t be the first to accomplish so much by faith, and he won’t be the last my friend. What you should do is find your purpose in life, build your faith in God’s word, and you’d accomplish things with ease. Get understanding my friend.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 2:20pm On Jul 09, 2020
desiredhome:
Lol I wonder who is daft here.....you are still getting confused.....my brother, if it was her faith that healed her she won't be flown abroad for medical treatments...get understanding and stop being a blind follower
Let me help you here. Rom 10:17 tells us: Faith comes by hearing the word of God. Because she was flown abroad does that stop her from hearing the word of God which has the capacity do build her faith? No it doesn’t. When you read her testimony you’d find out that was exactly what she did, then her faith came alive and she got healed. Today she is still healed. Cos she kept building help faith.

And you said you are not pained at these people? My friend if you understood how faith works you’d love this man that simply understands faith and that is using it to push the kingdom of God forward. Please don’t be daft!
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 1:56pm On Jul 09, 2020
desiredhome:
God heail her through the doctors and not in your clinic nor her faith else she won't be flown to abroad......hope you get that.....
Daft response my friend, but I expected it cos you don’t understand faith yet. Get understanding and be free. Reading here testimony will help you too...

Thank you for admitting God healed her not any doctor. Do you know you CANNOT get anything from God except by faith? Think about it...
Christianity EtcRe: How We Bought 530 Acres In Cananland Before Informing The Church! Bishop Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 1:53pm On Jul 09, 2020
Amotolongbo:
These people just capitalize on things we see often and normal in the society and overblow it calling it favor.

I’ve seen someone purchased a vast area of land as much that and paid for it with no “hallelujah song” or singing favour after collecting the CofO. It is a normal thing when you have the money and connected to the right source selling the land. No abracadabra or miracle involved.

The saddening part is that lands of such magnitude do some shady deals involved, but they won’t come out to tell us about it, claiming it is the Lord’s doing
My sister what you do not have is control over another man’s life or speech. The last time I checked freedom of speech still existed. Why not leave him to call it whatever he likes. Just for your information it is no more 530 acres, it is now more than 11,000 acres and I think this is favor. What do you think?
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 1:32pm On Jul 09, 2020
desiredhome:
Your submission is laughable and like you getting confused.......it's was not the Doctors that healed her but her faith.....so why was she flown out in the first place? why didn't her faith heal her in the clinic? grin grin grin grin
Oppression ko...who is oppressing who? When you open your mind to the truth you will know that nobody is oppressing you but are your own enemy........
Our lives is a function of our lives styles..... whatsoever a man soweth so shall he reap.....
Stick to the Truth and stop deceiving/confuse yourself.....
Faith without work is dead, have you heard of that before?
Please don’t be daft my friend. You will be daft to say the doctors healed her. Even “reasonable” doctors know they can’t heal. That you are sick and rushed to the hospital does not mean you are not a Christian my friend. Can you get that? I believe I’m not talking to a dunce. That you are rushed to the hospital does not mean you cannot build your faith for healing? Can you get that too? I believe you get it. That was what she did and now the challenge has disappeared. She is still healthy till tomorrow.

Faith without works is dead- very true. Faith is believing in the word of God and acting(working) on it. Did you miss that before? Understanding is all you need my friend.
Christianity EtcHow We Bought 530 Acres In Cananland Before Informing The Church! Bishop Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 1:23pm On Jul 09, 2020
“Favour is a characteristic of every revival. It’s now your turn (Psalm 44:3)”

“We stepped into Canaanland with 530 Acres of land, with C of O without any effort made by any man. There is no point telling you how much we bought it, you will see favour.”

“Do you know the Church was not informed until we finished buying, to avoid any stranger that might be in our midst who would go and tamper with the system.
Nobody heard it until, ‘hello, men and brethren, the land we are looking for is acquired. Now we have the C of O. Come on, give the Lord a big hand.’”

“How did you get money to buy it? Favour
Favour accompanies every revival. How did you get them to agree to sell? Favour!
You can’t stop favour, nothing flies like favour. That’s the kind of favour that will keep following you.”
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 12:46pm On Jul 09, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Those questions are directed at your person -- not at God.
How are you righteous? undecided
Where did you find the Kingdom of God? undecided
You have found it and you show it? undecided
WOW... even Jesus Christ did not SHOW the kingdom of God? undecided
You mean by building 10k churches this year, that is the kingdom of God? undecided
As long as you keep beefing this man, you will keep sinking. This is a man that has faith and is using his faith to push the kingdom of God forward. You have hate, and day by day you are sinking yourself. At this rate soon you’d be destroyed and totally forgotten as though you never existed.

To stop this from happening, come and learn how faith works, then you can also use it to affect your world positively for Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 12:42pm On Jul 09, 2020
ijedeikorodu:
There is power in the blood of Jesus Christ
Amen. Hallelujah. There is power in the blood of Jesus. Rev 12:11
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 12:38pm On Jul 09, 2020
desiredhome:
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You just contradict yourself in the first paragraph......we all know what faith is as Christians....to your testimony.....does it mean the clinic were someone was healed at the gate yet the main person that propagates the faith couldn't be healed at the same clinic/gate that she has to be flown abroad for treatment? or you mean her doesn't have faith?
I don't think there is any devil anywhere that we are fighting...... when we do the right thing(righteousness) we will live well, devoid of sickness, pain, worries etc which are the promise of God to mankind......
Learn how faith works and you’d stop asking foolish questions my friend. Even doctors admit that they only can treat, it is God that has the power to heal. She was flown to the hospital but her faith in God healed her not any doctor- go and read her testimony. Her faith in God has kept her healed since then, she is still going strong till forever.

Faith is everything if you must receive from God. Forget that you attend church or not, if you don’t believe the word of God and act on it, you won’t receive from God. Our job is to teach people the word of God until their faith comes alive, then they can easily receive from God. In the first post you quoted, nobody was trying to play God. The sick man went to the hospital, he didn’t get his healing, he came to church, was taught how faith works and he got it, and got his healing.

You just need to learn how faith works and you’d stop being pained about a man that is developing his faith daily and using it to help others break free from all oppressions of the enemy.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 11:29am On Jul 09, 2020
desiredhome:
Oh dear... I am not pained at all grin grin grin grin...making it look like it's by your power thereby glorying man instead of God.....if a man can be healed by just getting at the gate according to your testimony..yes....so how come the same people still travelled abroad for medical treatment/check up, how come they were not healed in their own clinic?.. grin grin grin grin grin
What about those that comes to the church, even to the alter and still did not get healed or still die afterall?
I think we should respect God for who He is for we can not play God....
Shalom
My friend, your challenge is that you don’t understand how faith works. Faith is a personal thing. The faith of the father does not cover his children. Let me try to define faith for you. Faith is believing God’s word, acting upon it, then God will perform. That you have faith does not mean you won’t be challenged in life. But faith says, when you are challenged and you believe the word of God your victory is guaranteed.

Now, about the hospital case you raised, we are not anti-medicine. In fact doctors are fighting the same devil we are fighting, they are just using science while we are using spiritual weapons which are superior. So that they take a sick person to the hospital does not mean such a person does not have faith, the person just needs to keep building faith until he can receive from God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 11:15am On Jul 09, 2020
Geeman23:
Divertion tactics. You dont address the subject matter. Juat imagine you are invited before a class of intelligent men is this how cunny you will be speaking like oyedepo the charlattan your menyor.You keep hammering bleating like a goat on the Fraudulent Money. Money Money Money. Are you that poor. I know you have irredeemably sold your souls for the porridge they give you to keep selling your fraud called church online.

See you have failed. You lack content. A desperate soul who have lost natural and spiritual purpose in life who has found solace in working for a con Man to promote fraud. Go and lock yourself in a room and think on how to reprogram your life on the right track. You have lost it. Promoting religious fraud is not the way to go.
My friend you are so so so bitter about greatness. This way you may never make progress in life o. Thank God for greatness and you may also be a candidate for greatness. You are bitterly beefing just one man that took hold of his faith and is using it to make the kingdom of God progress. This is what any man that has faith can do- even you. But because you don’t understand how faith works you have become so bitter and turned yourself into a messenger of the devil consciously or unconsciously.

All you need do is get a working knowledge of faith and you’d be able to accomplish all he has done and even surpass him. Because later generations are meant to be better than previous ones.

Did you never read in your bible that with faith all things are possible? This man is just channeling his faith in the direction of world evangelism and the devil in you will not allow you to see what is good.

You claim to be a Christian but look how you use words so loosely like a devil because of your hatred for just one man that has found his purpose in life and is pursuing it with all the faith inside of him?

Faith is taking us to greater places but hate will continue to sink you. You have not seen anything yet my friend. Except you leave this earth, your pains and pangs will continue to increase as you keep hearing about our greatness.

However you can humble yourself and let us teach you how faith works, and your bitter life will become sweet, the choice is yours.
Christianity EtcRe: Prophetic Declarations For Nairalanders by WINNERSMOG(op): 10:59am On Jul 09, 2020
Everything making you weep behind closed doors will be turned to open testimonies in the name of Jesus!

I bind the activities of the spirit of sadness upon you; that burden is off your life right now in the name of Jesus!

Any attempt on your life, on your family, on your children, is returned seven-fold on the attacker!

Grace will never cease to speak in your life in the name of Jesus!
Christianity EtcRe: Come And See What Jesus Is Doing... by WINNERSMOG(op): 10:58am On Jul 09, 2020
Supernatural Promotion.

Before now, the most educated person in my lineage was a secondary school certificate holder. I also experienced that ordeal as I never stayed up to three months in any higher institution.

Furthermore, my husband was stagnated in his career. So, I engaged in spiritual warfare and thought I could solve it on my own.

However, after I listened to Papa’s sermon on Kingdom stewardship, I understood that I needed to lay my challenges aside and engage in Kingdom-centered prayers and soul-winning.

I keyed into these Kingdom mysteries and presently, six of our new converts are established in the church.

Also, when the Faith Tabernacle choir sang about pressing towards the mark of the high calling, my commitment for God’s Kingdom and souls was enhanced.

Thereafter, God intervened and terminated the stagnation in my husband’s career. As a result, my husband who was a storekeeper was promoted to an Area Manager.

Bamidele Funke
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 9:09pm On Jul 08, 2020
Geeman23:
Dumb reply as usual. Who cares about the Ponzi centers to launder money of ignorant believers you are building called church. You think the lord Jesus cares about it.


Stop appealimg to crowd. Oyedepo use this seduction skill a lot. It is stupidy and petty.crowd doesn't validate truth. 10k 20k all hogwash. Who cares about one. Is crowd you will teneder before Christ at the resurrection or your servanthood in truth( not ammasing vain glories like momeh andd power in his name)


Lastly you don't plant church the way your boss plant his empire for religious looting.

Church is not business you plant.


There us no physical church. This is the new testament. Jesus said upon his revelation his church which is men will be built.


All those useless auditorium you are building a using to siphon money in the name of Christ are basically what they are. They are mere buildings build by fraudulent men like oyedepo to gather ignorant people together promise the an audio prosperity and the same tithhe looting their tithe an offering to build their empires.


The church is bigger than oyedepo and all the useless den of religious robbery you false minstry are building.

God is not there.
My friend that talks a lot, yet ends up saying total rubbish. Don’t you get tired? The money in the kingdom of God is your main problem, I get it. Don’t you still get it? As long as there are people in this planet we need cash to get the gospel out to them! Money is not evil. Money is not evil. Money is not evil my friend. It is just a tool for transaction on the earth. And God promised we’d have loads of it, to establish his kingdom- that’s simply what we are walking in now- we are just fulfilling prophecies. Why should this cause you so much pains and pangs?

Evil men have money you don’t cry, but we righteous men have it for the propagation of the gospel, then you start rolling on the floor in tears! Like I keep saying, your tears have just started pouring because we shall keep populating the kingdom of God using huge amounts of kingdom resources and I will keep updating you...
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 8:49pm On Jul 08, 2020
desiredhome:
But one of the leader of the church was very that they have to fly her Abroad for medical attention?
Na that one concern you? grin Pained people everywhere. Is the person still sick? Faith doesn’t promise you a challenge free life my friend, put it guarantees your victory anytime you come against a challenge.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 8:46pm On Jul 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
" Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all other things shall be added unto you..." that is exactly what i have been working through for some time now.
So did you find the Kingdom of God? undecided
What is righteousness? undecided
Obviously if you have found both so you should have no problem responding. How is the church carrying out righteousness ?
And you, how are you practicing righteousness with all you claim to have amassed?
So many questions in the heart of my friend here. You really need to study more and do “bad-belle” less, that way you’d find answers to your numerous questions. If you really want to find out how the kingdom of God works come to church and you’d find out the truth. Did you hear winners is recruiting? I could send you the link if you don’t mind my friend.

We have found the kingdom of God, we are righteous in the kingdom of God, now is the time to show people into the kingdom of God by our massive soul winning activities- we are going to 10k churches this year.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 2:07pm On Jul 08, 2020
Geeman23:
The guy feeds from oyedepos Ponzi scheme called church. He is not saved either. He is an huzzler promoting the fraud of his paymaster. I have engaged him in the past, He is empty of the wisdom of the doctrine of Christ. Talk from now till tomorrow, all he keeps talking is money, Money like oyedepo. Quite pathetic that Men for the love of Money can become like oyedepo and this guy.


There are many intelligent honest way to be ruch without having to scam religion simps with "church".
I honestly pray you don’t die in poverty. Look how you are boasting in your ignorance. Don’t you know poverty is a curse to mankind. One of the curses Jesus came into the world to save mankind from? Gal 3:13-14. Don’t you know the church needs money to spread the gospel of Jesus to all nations?

But the devil has so much blinded you with hatred for kingdom prosperity so much so you have become anti-money. Money is just a tool for transaction on earth, nothing so special about it. It is when money enters your heart that it becomes a problem. When it is in your hand it is simply a tool to get things done- in our case we are using it to push forward the kingdom of God.

Whether you know it or not, you are posing as a gate of hell, and you are in our prayers for total destruction so that innocent souls can come into the kingdom of God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 1:58pm On Jul 08, 2020
Geeman23:
I read most of oyedepos book way back 2017 and I understood that He is a false prophet who is empty of the light of Christ.

He thrives on greed of Men, covetousness and a deliberate manipulation of word to provoke emotions and a selective misrepresentation of scripture to speak what He wants.

Some where on a thread I saw where he was talking of church as healing centre, this is the same guy who flew in doctors to attend to his wife when she was sick and later flew again abroad.


That guy is a king of lying and boast to provoke emotions.
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You are simply a pained gate of hell my friend. And you shall be cheaply destroyed to allow more souls to come into the kingdom of God- ditto your friend kobojunkie. We shall keep marching on as the church of Christ- have you heard we are planting 10k churches this year, we have already planted more than 2k? Last year we planted 5k. Your pain and pangs are just loading. More glorious updates coming your way as we break more grounds.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 1:52pm On Jul 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ was a homeless man. Paul was a man who had nothing to his name at the end of his life. You and your bishop on the other hand claim to have so much property to your name simply from taking from the flock of Jesus Christ who He sent you to feed and take care of, for him. undecided
Your blessings seem to come from the pockets of those you take from and not from God Himself though. You have yet to show where God, even Jesus Christ, says it is ok to take your blessings the way you continue to, from the very flock you are to tend for Him. undecided
What value do you add to their lives? undecided
And here I thought Jesus Christ is the only one that can add a value of any kind to the lives of His own. undecided
You act as if it is a product of some sort that you are selling them in exchange for the payment you receive from them. undecided
Your soul is filled with so many questions. Seems to me that you are confused my friend. Come to winners and all these your numerous questions will be answered. In the meantime, I will keep doing what Jesus commanded and he will keep paying my wages in hundred folds just like he promised us in his Word. You can continue with your ministry on bad-belle and “painment” until you get understanding on what the master told you to do to live a productive life in Matt 6:33
Christianity EtcRe: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 10:31am On Jul 08, 2020
petra1:
You’re correct again . It’s an act of his benevolence and mercy . Like the Bible says

Romans 10:20
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.


Such spectacular manifestation don’t take the place of laid down principles of faith . We receive salvation by faith , we receive Holy Spirit by faith

But their are few spectacular cases where someone receive the Holy Spirit without anyone laying hands on them and also receive healing without expecting it
My friend, we receive everything from God by faith. Even when it seems we get things miraculously without asking, there must have been an intercessor somewhere praying on our behalf.

Even the coming of Jesus into the world to save mankind from darkness required faith, some people were praying for him to come.
Christianity EtcRe: Prophetic Declarations For Nairalanders by WINNERSMOG(op): 10:25am On Jul 08, 2020
There shall be no more stagnation in your spiritual life and in your family in the name of Jesus!

Every oppression of the devil responsible for the ups and downs in your health is over today in the name of Jesus!

An end has come to every form of struggle over your health in the name of Jesus!

All the days of your life shall be lived in sound health, sound mind and sound spirit in the name of Jesus!
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 9:46am On Jul 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Do not muzzle the work oxen... you are allowed to eat but none of that speaks to collecting a salary.

You work for God so depend on God, not those who God sent you to, to pay you money for your service.
Paul does not make the rules, God does. And nowhere does Jesus Christ command His disciples to collect payment of any kind from those He sent them out to preach to.
Jesus Christ never said this! He said they could eat, not get paid by their flock. The flock does not owe them that. God does and He is the one they ought to look to for their payment, not the sheep they are in fact meant to Feed and Care for.
Well, you are free to catch up on the comments so far!
God will not let you die in this poverty mentality. Amen. As long as you keep adding value to the lives of people, whether in the secular or in the kingdom of God, you MUST be blessed by the people you are adding value to. Don’t be too daft to comprehend this my friend! Many times I’m not even looking for the blessings that come my way, they amaze me myself. I am simply doing my job adding values to the lives of people and blessings are chasing me just like the Bible promised. Wake up to spiritual things my friend. Even the devil knows he can’t stop us from being blessed.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 9:37am On Jul 08, 2020
karo93:
So your point is that Pastors should carry their wives and children to people's houses to beg for food daily..... how do they get clothes? How do they pay school fees for children? How do they buy books?

Scratch that ! You probably dont care about all that...

Dont bother replying my message. I get your point and you are free to keep it.
He is only pained about the prosperity in the kingdom of God, and this is blinding him from the truth of God’s word. As much as I can, I will keep using this medium to try to enlighten him and other lots like him.
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 9:34am On Jul 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
God forbid! I am not anti-money. God is definitely not by the verse you hijacked earlier to support your taking money from those who you "lead to the light". undecided
God doesn't come down to give good people the good things of life, but he certainly did not say that we should take payment in His name from those we lead to the light either. undecided
Stop this poverty mentality before it destroys you my friend. Jesus and Paul were very blessed men. As long as you keep adding value to people you will be blessed. We go after lost souls, win them to Christ, teach them kingdom mentality, they are blessed and they naturally bless us just like they kept blessing Jesus and Paul in the scriptures I showed you above. Add value to lives and you’d naturally be blessed even if you are not looking for it- this is a simple life principle. You need to come to church to learn these things my friend.
Christianity EtcRe: Come And See What Jesus Is Doing... by WINNERSMOG(op): 9:28am On Jul 08, 2020
5-Year Barrenness Terminated!

We got married in 2008. Since then, we believed God for the fruit of the womb. In January 2013, I attended the first Miracle Babies’ Service.

During the service, Papa instructed us to place our baby items on our laps and I carried mine all through the service.

Meanwhile, before the service, I told God to send me my Word that would change my life and if He doesn’t, I would not go home. I came to church that day, listened carefully and got a Word from Genesis 2:19, that whatever name Adam gave them that was what they were called.

When I got home, my husband and I prayed on the baby items. We said, ‘Whatever name Papa has called you, that is what you will bear.’ To the glory of God, God has blessed me with the fruit of the womb!

Kayode Angela
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 10:49pm On Jul 07, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Oh! Are you comparing Jesus Christ's treasury money, which was barely able to purchase more than a couple of loafs of bread and fish -- a treasure that was barely enough to get him even an apartment of his own-- to the treasury of your pastor and your person? undecided

People promote things like abortion with money? I don't get what you mean at all. undecided
Oh! Do you mean you expect your personal treasuries to continue to swell? undecided
So you haven’t heard that most developed countries are trying to slash their population by legislating abortion? My friend it takes huge amounts of money to produce this abortion drugs. Do you need me to tell you everything? Connect some of these dots yourself and save us some time. You see nothing wrong with people promoting hard drugs with money, promoting pornography with money, promoting all these vices with money? But you’d come after us, using money to establish churches so that more and more people can be enlightened?
Christianity EtcRe: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG(op): 10:40pm On Jul 07, 2020
Kobojunkie:
God blessing us is one thing but you made it clear that when you spread light to people, you expect people to bless you for it, and that is how you and your pastor have all you have. So how is that God? undecided
How much did Paul reap though? How many properties did he leave behind as far as his material reaping was concerned? undecided
Your problem just got clear to me: you are anti-money. I might not be able to help you with that problem my friend.

Do you need me to start telling you that God doesn’t come down to give people the good things of life, that he uses people to bless people? Do I really need to state that to you my friend? Get understanding.

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