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Ikenna351: Yes, it's premixed. Don't mixed with water, otherwise it will be so diluted that it won't do it's work.

The instruction on the container says "Flush old the cooling system and refill with TOTAL coolant" or something like that. It didn't state mix with water before refilling.

I have been using this very coolant for my Lions for years now.

Good morning.

Ikenna

Ok Man pls do have a great week!!!
Any success with your search for that Lower Lamba 02 sensor, the one with the blue switch head? Still not ok with the switch my mechanic made, though its not giving me ant problems in terms of fuel efficiency...

Morn Guys. Hope we all had a well swell wkend. @ IKENNA pls a quick fix, hope these total coolants are premixed, nothing is indicated on the instruction guide as to that. Thanks.

Ikenna351: Good morning.

Now I have confirmed. The Transponder Aerial exist, different from COMM 2000. The Transponder Aerial signals to COMM 2000 and COMM 2000 channels the received signal to BSI, before the BSI will interprete the signal received and allow the engine ECU to start the engine or lock itself when engine is cranked, depending on what it received and interpreted. No be small thing o!.

So, if I were you, I would check the transponder aerial first. The transponder aerial is behind the ignition switch or at the bottom of the switch, as earlier stated. It has two wire connector that goes to the COMM 2000. Check the connectors. If they are ok, I would replace the aerial and see what happens.

Find below what the Aerial in D9 looks like, directly behind the ignition switch.




Ikenna

Wow! We learn every day. ok i ll set about checking parts shop to get one and try and see the result, at least now I have smth to try. Meanwhile I ll be travelling with my fox for an assignment and would be back next week. Just cant settle down b4 then, hoping my lion would behave, hasnt immobilised for some 4days now so am hoping i still have some window b4 it becomes a permanent fault and that the fault codes stored in the ECU we cleared would help. Will keep u posted sir. Thanks my broda, U be the Man.

Ikenna351: Ok. Now, we know what the problem is: Intermittent dis-communications between those three components.

What ECU that gave that error fault: Engine ECU or BSI? Did the guy check to know if it has an error code? Always good to have one and work with both, because some definitions of errors in that PP2000 are not always the true definition. Close to the culprit(s), but not always specific. But with the code, Peugeot book will give you all you need to know about that code. Next time, ask the scan guy to click the icon "i" on the bottom of the screen, after the error faults have been showned on the screen. Thats where the error codes of each error faults are hidden. Notwithstanding, lets see what we can do with what we have.

BSI is the component immobilizing your car, stopping it from starting, not the Engine ECU. So, the issue has nothing to the with the Engine ECU, but it will get the immobilizer alert each time BSI didnt receive the correct code from the transponder while cranking the engine. In that case, it may store the falut as well. So, that leaves us with transponder and the BSI.

BSI does not receive the code directly from the transponder each time the engine is cranked. Something channels that communication. So if that thing that channels that communication between them fails or fails intermittently, the BSI will respond as its designed to "immobilize" the car, since it will sense it as unauthorised attempt to start the start. Does it make sense now?

Now before your COMM 2000 issue few weeks ago, I gathered that there is a component behind the key switch that transmit the transponder code to the BSI as soon as the key is close to the ignition switch, even when it's not inserted in the switch yet. They regarded the component as "Aerial". It means if the Aerial fails or starts failing intermittently, the BSI will respond to whatever info available: either correct code recieved from transponder via Aerial or No code received from Aerial and hence car will be immobilized. Still make sense?

Here is where am a little bit confused. Is the Aerial different from COMM 2000? Or are the two components the same? Could it be that they were referring the COMM 2000 as Aerial or they are different components doing similar function? This is what am yet to find out. Usually, I would open my steering wheel cover to identify which is which. Unfortunately, my 406 V6 in the Diagbox doesnt have electrical diagram, to locate and be certain if Aerial exist and different from the COMM 2000 which the location is obvious. But I could find out still. I just need more time.

My point is, something is not passing the transponder code all the time you crank your engine. I would suspect the "Aerial", but I cannot tell if Aerial is the COMM 2000 or if its different. If the Aerial, as they called it, is COMM 2000, then you dont need to look further.

As for what your mechanic said about spare key and main key, forgive me, this is kind of joke they tell in circus. So I think he just called himself a clown. Please, transponders are indestructible, sort of. Have you ever seen a transponder? Unless, the position of the transponder in the plip was shifted from the original position which makes it difficult for the Aerial to read the codes on the transponder and send it to BSI. You can open the plip to confirm the position of the transponder in the spare key. But if both the spare key and main key cause the "intermittent immobilizer", then leave the transponders. The fault is elsewhere.

Did the car come with the security card? If it does, then do this. Scratch the hidden stuff on the part of the card, just like Phone Airtime scracth card where pin is hidden. You will find 4 digits hidden under it. Use PP2000 to re-enter the 4 digit codes on that card in your BSI. This is to re-program or re-code the transponders on the two keys, in case the replaced COMM 2000 affected the code on the transponders when it was replaced. It's could also serve as re-confirmation of the transponders code to the BSI.

The first thing I would do is to remove the steering cover and look for the Aerial behind the key/ignition switch. Unless not all models have it. If I would find it, then I would not bother with the COMM 2000. But if I dont, I would suspect the COMM 2000 or re-code the transponders with the hidden 4 codes on the security card via PP2000. The problem lies between these 3 I mentioned, I believe. Good luck.

Ikenna

Thanks for your prompt response my broda, Yes your right, the fault was stored in the BSI. So as I get u, there's a disconnect btw the BSI and the key the solution lies in knowing what part performs that function. Hmmm!
Well thanks for dimistifying the tale of a key losing memory at least. Seriously I dont know what step to take for now cuz I truly cant attempt to open the steering, not that capable yet. And unless i have smth to work on , it would be suicidal handing the car over to a rewire. I guess i ll rescan and see if i can get a code. Thanks a million man and I hope something pops up that can explain the COMM 2000 VS AERIAL DICHOTOMY.... NICE NIGHT!!!!!

@ Ikenna. scanned my lion, a global scan just to be sure. ECU had a fault which read:
" INTERMITENT FAULT;TRANSPONDER IDENTIFIER NOT RECEIVED". My mechanic says he suspects that my use of the spare key to the car(been using the spare key since I noticed I needed to change the key case of the remote control key, D 2 buttons had fallen off and didnt want smth to affect the inside) could be the cause and that i needed to use both keys inter-changeably more often, that keys do espire... no be small tin my broda. Well one thing I know is He knows his Onions in Mechanics, but electricals is quite a diff game in Peugeot so am not swallowing all that hook-line and-sinker.

But am pretty sure its a key thing and not a COMM 2000 problem cuz the last tym I had a comm 2000 problem, the car was simply not starting after countless cranks. whereas now I simply switch off and switch on and am gone. All the same I really need to get to the root of whateva this is so kindly assess this development pls.

Ikenna351: Honestly, I think we should waite and see what the PP2000 says that is causing your car going into Immobilizer intermittently. Am out of ideas now in your case. BSI matter is not something one would do a guess work on. Whatever it's going on in your lion between the transponder, Comm 2000 & BSI Unit will be stored in the BSI memory. You need to find out what it is with PP2000. But I wonder what is causing this Immobilizer fault in your car, for the 2nd time now.

Ikenna

ok then, ll keep u posted after the scan. Thanks.

Hi House. Hope we all had a splendid weekend.
my fox has been acting quite unpredictably, at interval I see the engine immobiliser sign and am unable to start the car. At such times the display reads ENGINE IMMOBILISER FAULT. why am really pissed with this development is that av been careful never to start the car without waiting for the STOP sign to clear. When this happens I simply switch of the ignition and allow the BSI to go to sleep and then try again which usually solves the problem. Why its so annoying is that it sometimes happens when am in a haste to get off.

Intend to scan the car tomorrow and clear any possible fault codes stored in its brain but am posting this problem coz am open to tips and experiences.

@ Ikenna. Still remember your tips on how to deactivate the immobilizer sign by depressing the key and counting to ten and removing and reinserting the key again but the thing is that this time around the car starts after switching ignition on and off and am really wondering just what the cause is....?

elektra80: +10 for u. Why should we be forced to drive manual just because some James Bond wanna be find it fun. One man's food is another man's poison. I'll save my energy for better things rather than engaging clutch and shifting sticks. Give me a manual any day i will still drive it like a pro. Ask me to make a choice i will choose automatic.

'FORCED TO DRIVE MANUAL?' I think I need to Re-read this thread, am so lost.

Ikenna351: Check the fuse 13 in the BSM (the fuse box in the engine bay, behind the battery box). If the fuse contacts are corroded, clean and slot back in.

Also, Check the ground connections on the horns. Clean them, including the connectors. You may have to bring out the horns and test them on the battery directly.


Ikenna

Ikenna am interested in this tip. My horn works but there s a considerably decrease in the intensity. Was thinking one the horns is gone bad, that's with the assumption that 406 has 2 horns and maybe one got bad. would now settle down and check for corrosion and also check the fuse as you have advised. Am told an original horn costs 3000k. Do have a nice day Man. May I also commend you for the maturity you showed recently on this thread, under great provocation. Its a quality u ll sure always need...

Ikennna tanks for the update on how to change power steering fluid. your post surely brot me up to speef on the exercise. u r apreciated on this thread man...

Hi House.
Drove my 406 Ew7 from Makurdi to Eket in Akwa Ibom yesterday for an official assignment. On the road my people...! Na me come they fear to match my car, the engine output was unbelievable. My Band Wagon- Toyota- and- Honda- Loving colleagues in the car with me got a rude introduction to the stuff European cars are made off and why I drive a Peugeot and a manual trans for that matter... and when we stopped to refuel at NNPC Mega, Umahia, with my fuel gauge still reading less than half tank, they simply lost it... Of course their road side mechanic altered Japanese cars cannot boast such fuel efficiency... with all the thermostat removal surgery and other Naija-Mechanic Operation carried out on them.

Lastly to all House members from Akwa Ibom, UYO IS MARVELOUS!!!

Ikenna351: Like I said I would do, I visited Eagle Square yesterday, 26/10/2013, for the 2013 Abuja Auto Fair. I arrived there sometime in the afternoon, in my SV D9, as you can see in the pic below:

https://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a634/Ikenna351/025_zpse33f4d5d.jpg


Below is the Peugeot stand.



















New product introduced. Guess which model?



Details of prices, specifications, pictures of interior, engine bays, etc, of new Peugeots displayed on their stand to follow soon. Ever sat in 508 Allure (keyless), started and hear how sweet the car could be? Will be back soon with the whole story, with pictures.


Ikenna

Never sat in one oh! my Bro, but lets have the details and more photos... and dare to 'dream the dream'.... I know I ll definately own one someday

Ikenna351: How To Know When Peugeot Engine Timing Belt Is About To Break With PP2000:


http://peugeotarena.com/how-to-know-when-peugeot-engine-timing-belt-is-about-to-break-with-pp2000-code-p1149-p1335/



Ikenna

We now know. Thanks

Ikenna351: Peugeot recommends ATF dexron II for their PAS (Power Assisted Steering). TOTAL has ATF Dexron II. Use it for your PAS fluid.

Ikenna.

Irrespective of whether its V6 or others I hope? What about brake fluid? hope we can use the road side brake fluids?

Secondly, Please any idea what ECONOMIC MODE ACTIVE displaying on Instrument Panel means? The last time I saw that sign my car got immobilised, but before then I get to see the sign on and off intermittently.
@ House please anyone with an idea can comment. The sign is giving me a terribly feeling... tanks.

Ikenna351: Well, like i have always been preaching, most of the peugeot problems lies in wiring connectors. First thing i do while troubleshooting wiring issues in Peugeots is pulling out the connectors of the components the scan tool reported faulty, checking them out and pushing them back in. Most times, it resolves the issues.

Anyway, congrats for eventually fixing the airbag issue. As for the ranting of your electrician, ingnore that. If you follow how they feel about how you think on how they work on your car, then be prepared for series of nightmares.

Ikenna.

True talk brother. And its so good to have this forum, we learn things. My Electrician had to eat the humbly pie today and sadly for him there where a lot of customers around. Am sure the next time I share with him an informed idea from the Great guys on this thread he wont readily regard it as trash...

bigx: @wisesytem..

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Hi all
I cant seem to find this code anywhere the code will not clear (p0802 level of driver module trigger 2 open circuit)
Has anyone got some idea what to check next.

thanks guys

si
Scott. B:
Hi

This code is usually down to one of three things.

(A) Poor connection at the two pin blue or brown connector on the back of the Comms 2000.
(B) Poor connection at the two pin blue or green connector on the back of the drivers (steering wheel) module.
(C) Intermittent break in the rotary connection built into the Comms 2000.

I think Module 2 are the blue connectors whilst module 1 are the green and brown connectors.

The majority of the time I find one of the connectors have come out of the airbag module itself.

Try checking the connections first and if thats not it then a Comms 2000 (lights / wiper stalk) may be required.

Took out time today to resolve a lingering air bag fault which popped up after changing my COMMS 2000. The Scan result read:
PERMANENT FAULT; LEVEL OF DRIVER MODULE TRIGGER 1. OPEN CIRCUIT. Courtesy of the above post by Bigx I simply asked my Electrician to check the connectors to see if any where not connected properly. He insisted that it wasnt necessary citing all his years of experience and how he didnt appreciate his customers telling him his job. He rambled on about all other possible causes of an air bag fault and advised we try another COMMS 2000. Hmmm.... plenty talk... I insisted He first check the connecting switches and if the fault remained I would then listen to him. He finally reluctantly opened the steering removed all the connectors, rechecked they where fitted in the right positions, coupled the steering compartment back and BOOOOM! No air bag fault.

@ Bigx thanks for your post,was indeed helpful.

Fifty-Fifty:
Hi Oga IK! I believe u ar doing great? I am enjoying my FOX (dt 2002 EW12 of course!). Last Sunday I travelled from Abuja to Kano and to Gombe on that very day. The power of EW12 engine is quite amazing. I normally do 140KPH or highest 160KPH but last Sunday someone with Kia Optima push me to doing 200KPH. The guy, after starting d mischief, was trying hard to cope but his “toy“ was not prepared for the task. I finally push my Machine little above 200KPH while the Optima kept becoming tiny in my rear mirror. My FOX really made me proud dt day. To cover more than 800KM in a single day & on our roads can be impossible to many cars. Those phone calls from Cotonou really paid. I will call when I‘m back. Thanks once again.
@ House Members: One love.

Enjoy my brother, I know where you are coming from cuz I own a fox too. May not agree with your competition on the road though.

bigx: @wisesytem..

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Comms 2000 is the name for the lighting and wiper control ECU. Its a fancy version of the old style hardwired switches, but has a built in ECU to encode information, and send it as commands to other ECU's, over the multiplexed network.

It does other things as well such as: HF remote central receiver. Transponder and key present function. Warning buzzer. Radio controls.
si:
Thanks m8

@ Bixx. Simply amazing and timely info, changed my Comms 2000(didnt even beleive the real name was Comms 2000 B as my Electrician called it) some two days ago. Been suspecting the fault is Comms 2000 related but didnt really have anything to go by. Your post s just given me a much needed window of possibility. Have an appointment with the guy who fixed the Comms 2000 to review the work, ll certainly give a more critical attention to the connectors. Thanks a million man!

@ Ikenna.
Scanned my lion today to sort out an Air bag waening that came up while my car was immobilised. I remember my Instrument Panel showing PASSENGER AIR BAG DEACTIVATED while trying to mobilise the car. Well an Airbag scan with PP2000 today revealed:
PERMANENT FAULT; LEVEL OF DRIVER MODULE TRIGGER 1. OPEN CICUIT.
My mechanic says he suspects that one of the switches inside the steering wheel we opened the previous day while changing the'COM 2000' was not properly fitted. I also remember the Electrician explaining to me how the wires connected to the COM2000 also connected to the Air bag.
For the first time my Mechanic seems to be confused with a scan result. Am also surprised that the scan result said nothing about the PASSENGER AIR BAG DEACTIVATED i saw on the instrument panel the other day or maybe its corrected itself not being a permanent fault.

Any ideas on what the[b] scan resul[/b]t could mean? Thanks in advance.

In addition to the plan to scan my lion today to resolve an air bag fault that popped up when my lion got immobilised two days ago , I had resolved to do some digging into the probable cause(s) of the failure of of the component I changed that am learning works with the key in securing my car.

I couldnt readily think of any cause so I decided to go with Ikenna's suspicion of either water or surge. With the later option too technical for me I decided to go about checking for soaked wires. I opened the compartment housing the tail lamps, but the bulbs and wires around them lookrd quite dry, nothing much amiss. I remembered that during the inquiry into the cause of my immobilised car the car electrician checked some switches connecting the BSI underneath the wheel and so I removed the foot mat ,opened up the the compartment, lifted the car rug(and the foam serving as underlay) and felt for wetness. Yes the place was surely wet and the wires lining the edges quite soggy, I touched the foam lining the rug and that was when I realised that the entire rug was flooded, completely wet with most of the water absorbed in the foam. I set about drying the car floor with a towel but the more i tried the more water came out. well I succeeded in drying out most of the water and left the rug turned over for the sun to dry the remaining water. But I couldn't quite understand how well over 3litres of water could have made its way underneath the rug on the drivers seat. I had no doubt that the water was directly or indirectly linked to the failure of my car starting.
I kept thinking but couldn't get it, I couldn't equally remember leaving my windows open for an overnight rain. While I was brain storming , a friend came over and I shared the problem with him. He straight away told me that the culprit was most likely my AC hose likely leaking into the car. It then dawned on me that I had actually never observed any water leak underneath my car despite the fact that I drive with my AC on 90% of the time. So I drove down to my Mechanic and told him to trace the AC hose to where it leads out of the car, we did, put on the Ac and waited for water to come out. no water came thru the outlet and so he opened up the hose. We noticed that the hose didn't fit into the rubber on the chassis of the car which most likely caused the water to pour over into the car so we fitted it perfectly and then switched on the AC and waited. minutes later water dripped out underneath the car.

I dont know if ITs a factory defect or something but it looks like all the time my car had been on the road the AC hose had for some not effectively dispensed water out of the car and thats only what can account for the amount of water underneath the drivers rug.

My mechanic says I should observe to see if the area remains dry over the coming days and if not, He would get an Electrician to open the
dashboard and have a looked at the 'Vibrator' inside the dashboard. I hope it doesnt get to that though cuz opening my dashboard simply doesnt interest me. I ve heard of so many electrical issues that have resulted from dashboard opening on this thread.
Well this is my story. I encourage all hose members to do a check to ensure their AC hose leaks out of the car and not in.

Ikenna351: There is a passenger airbag deactivation switch by the cup holder, close to the handbrake. If it's in OFF position, insert the car key in it and turn it ON.

You need to erase the stored faults in the BSI unit for the faults to stop showing. Use PP2000 for it or any scan tool that can communicate with the system.

Ikenna.

would do that. thanks.

Ikenna351: First of all, congrats for eventually getting your Lion roar back to life. What you passed through goes a long way to tell you how protected your Lion is.

Never heard of such issue with BSI lions until today. When you said the Electrician mentioned something under the steering wheel that works with the key, the only thing I could think of was the Aerial behind the key switch, under the steering wheel, that recognizes the transponder in the key plip and signals to the BSI to authorize the engine ECU to function and run when engine is cranked. But because of other symptoms or tell-signs on the cluster, I ruled out the Aerial/Antenna, since the car was already immobilized before the key was even inserted into the ignition switch.

From the pics, the part that was replaced that fixed the problem is an electronics. The fault could be any of those micro-ICs or whatever they are called. The failure could be caused by surge, sparks or water. Did any one at anytime cleaned the steering wheel cover with soaked cloth with water, so wet for water to have found it way into that board? This things take time to manifest. But then, the failure could be caused by anything.

You seem to be the only one to have recorded such issue online, given the rest of us room to learn, at such a painful cost . You have taught us something new about our Lions today.

Like we discussed on the phone, if the guy that did the scan with PP2000 had probed further, the faulty component would have been known that morning. Patience is what is needed to troubleshoot these Lions.

Though someone have had a similar issue with his 508. But that was 508 and the part has a different name.

For consolation, now you have known how secured the car security system is, which makes it almost impossible for the Lion to start without it's factory key, considering what goes on between the Key transponder, Aerial/Antenna, BSI unit and engine ECU before the car starts.


Ikenna.

My Brother, every thanks to God then deservedly to you. You given ardent followers of this thread the inspiration to keep surmounting challenges and Never-Say-Die. I really wished my mechanic had been patient enough so we had exhaustively used PP2000 to understand the fault in details, whichever way and like you have explained there's now knowledge of an additional component involved in recognising 406 BSI controlled keys so whenever a BSI scan reveals something about 'absence of BSI communication with COM NETWORK[sic]' we do well not to rule out the component in the photo above, known in the market as 'COM 2000' by our road side boys. Am hoping someone in the hose can get us an actual name we could google with.

My fox however now shows an airbag fault. During the stalemate yesterday I remember reading on the instrument indicator PASSENGER AIR BAG DEACTIVATED. It also shows ECONOMY MODE ACTIVE, so I intend to scan my lion later today. Will keep the house updated.

Lastly, the scarcity of info on the component in question suggests that it rarely fails in lions and mine may just be a 'one-off' or so I think.

As seen above, I noticed three switches leading out of the component which I suspect control the lighting, air bags and sends messages to the BSI .... or so I think. @ Ikenna, kindly share your thoughts too.

k

Ikenna351: How to Program/Reprogram 406 Key Remote with 2 Buttons

http://peugeotarena.com/how-to-programreprogram-406-key-remote-with-2-buttons-2001-2004-models/



Ikenna.

Woke up this morning to meet my toughest day so far as a fox owner.
For whatever reasons... I met my car immobilised, the remote key wasnt opening the doors, I remembered they had worked perfectly the night before, at least I had used the remote key to lock the car and noticed the non-flicker steady blink that indicates the car was locked and secured. I then remembered I had encountered this same problem some two weeks ago, on that occasion the immobiliser sign went off after about two tries to start the car and that was the end of the matter.

well I manually opened the car and tried to start the car but after about four strong cranks I stopped realising something else needed to be done... what a way to start a week! I called Ikenna and explained what was unfolding to him, He advised I attempt to reprogram the key following the steps He's posted above, after the third attempt the car started and I called him with the news. so i went about cleaning the car and getting ready for work while the car idled and steamed. switched the car off after some 15mins and went in for a shower. I returned all dressed up and ready for work, got in the car, turned on the ignition, waited for the STOP sign to clear and tried to start the car but it wont start again...hmmmm! Ikenna had advised i still scan the car after the initial starting, I also remember that an air bag warning had popped up when it had started, so I called my Mechanic to come to the house with his PP2000.

He arrived and ran a global scan which revealed Intermitent faults on the Air bag, BSI AND Instrument Indicator. Sadly the Guy was unusually impatient and couldnt wait for me to copy out all the faults assuring me that since there was no permanent fault he was simply going to clear the codes and the car would start. I obliged given I was also in a hurry and already late for work; but that of the BSI was most important to
me so I memorised it ,it read: Absence of BSI communication with CAN Network. Well we cleared all the codes and attempted starting the car but this time we couldnt even get a crank out of the engine. At this point both of us realised this wasnt giong to be a hurried task. we noticed however that even when the key was removed, the CHECK ENGINE LIGHT was still illuminated(without the ignition on) together with the handbrake light... very unusual. My Mechanic then suggested we check out for wires soaked in water( it had rained heavily the previous day), suspecting some wire was bridging, this was in addition to a critical check on all fuses carried out earlier as advised by Ikenna. Our check for soaked wires was unproductive and we moved to check the BSI. That too was unsuccesful. At this point it was clear we were meddling in the deep waters of car electricals and so we decided to get a competent 406 electritian, which led us to Benue Links Transport Company where I pleaded with their best Peugeot electrician to come with us.

He repeated a check on the fuse box and BSI but came out with nothing and we all sat wondering what the problem was. The electriciaan then told me that he needed to chec a component located inside the steering which according to him decripts the signal on the kek and relays to the BSI. At this point I really wasn't comfortable with the idea, for crying out loud this guy thinks he s a scan tool I thought. I called Ikenna and told him what the guy was suggesting- a check on the "COM-2000" as he called it, wathever that meant.... After some deliberation Ikenna advised I give him a chance under strict watch. He opened up the steering wheel and emerged with thissee pics)

He then asked we go and test the component on his friends 406 to see if it works, it didnt. so we shopped for it in the second hand market, got a replica for 8000k(at this point I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO PAY). Well, we returned and coupledthe parts together usind the new component or COM 2000 as he called it and the car started at first crank. what a day!!!

@ Ikenna, thanks for all the help, hope this brings you up to speed on the problem as I promised. Sorry about the way the pics are arranged, the first 2 shows the housing of the component inside the steering wheel, while the last 2shots show the actual component that was changed.

Ikenna351: How to clean Peugeot engine Throttle Body, including the Motorised Throttle Body.


http://peugeotarena.com/49/


Ikenna.

Ikenna, thanks a lot, You are definitely my Nairaland Great. I intend to add this exercise to my itinerary for the upcoming sallah holiday.

Ikenna351: As far as EW series engines are concerned, don't go beyond Bosch and NGK spark plugs.

Peugeot designs their engines to work better with Bosch spark plugs heating ratings. Not all spark plugs will start EW series. The other day, someone put wrong spark plug in his EW10 307 and the car started smoking. So, the so called "Segal" spark plugs should have no business in that your engine.


Ikenna.

my broda you are so right, just that the unavailability of the right parts in small towns like where I stay sometimes leaves one with little option but to patronize readily available yet untested parts. The solution for those of us not close to big auto markets is to do preemptive buying of parts in line with a real time preventive maintenance schedule... But na moni Mata...

Ikenna351: The display is now showing me that the next service will be due in next 30,000 km.

Ikenna.

I changed the original plugs that came with my car in error while trying to solve an engine rough idling and jerking problem, which a scan later revealed was caused by a failed lower lambs oxygen sensor which i fixes. Well that not withstanding I left the new plug I, the car- brand name was segal with ref no.rfn: 58hz. Fr 8 sc, at the cost of 6000k. The plugs came highly recomended by my mechanic who i must say has really impressed me since i started patronising him. Well over time i noticed That my car's fuel consumption has increased noticeably and i suspected the culprit to be the spark plugs even with my limited. Well i reverted back to the 'follow come' plugs and my car fuel consumption since became optimal.
so i intend to leave the original plugs in the car untill there's a clear need to change in which case i ll need help from the house on which spark plugs to use.
Ikenna thanks for your assist on how to reset service indicator, Just serviced my car and its now reset for another 30,000km.

Ikenna351: The display is now showing me that the next service will be due in next 30,000 km.

Ikenna.

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Ikenna351: The display is now showing me that the next service will be due in next 30,000 km.

Ikenna.

I changed the original plugs that came with my car in error while trying to solve an engine rough idling and jerking problem, which a scan later revealed was caused by a failed lower lambs oxygen sensor which i fixes. Well that not withstanding I left the new plug I, the car- brand name was segal with ref no.rfn: 58hz. Fr 8 sc. The plugs came highly recomended by my mechanic who i must say has really impressed me since i started patronising him. Well over time i noticed That my car's fuel consumption has increased noticeably and i suspected the culprit to be the spark plugs rven with my limited

Ikenna351: Did the mechanic check the teeth on the hub/disc which the sensor is suppose to sense when wheel is spinning? If the teeth is covered with mud or rusted out, the sensor won't be able to sense the spinning of the brake disc and may report to the ABS ECU as faulty sensor. The teeth should be clean and good enough for those sensors to work.

Ikenna.

sorry man. Av been away. Yes we actually spent time cleaning the teeth in the disc, we wiped it clean but it just dint work. Most of the used abs sensors have telling marks on them that indicate whoever removed them got tired of trying gently and had to hit it out with force. Tried one I got from the only Peugeot dealership in town over the weekend but that too didn't solve the problem.

I have been thinking, why don't we attempt to put together a link where we can order genuine Peugeot parts cutting out as much middle men as possible. I can't help but imagine what the actual cost of a pair of abs sensor would be coming directly from the producer. Just imagine all thread members buying parts from the same genuine source with minimal added charges, it would be definitely worth the cost since we would be sure of what we would be paying for. I know genuine Peugeot parts are like u LL u,say pricey, but the price we hear from places like asd Motors are surely painful, while the majority of chinese parts available in the market simply dont inspire much confidence. All am saying Is, Is There anyone in the house with a relatively cheap yet genuine link where we can get parts? Have a nice

Ikenna351: Myself, I was surprised when the guy told on the phone that "New" ABS sensors cost 5k. So, I called him yesterday to be sure he heard me right. Hmm! He said he didn't understand what I meant by ABS sensor. So he gave me a price of something he thought could be the sensor I was referring to ABS sensor. This people eh!

Usually, I go to the part shops with the failed part or show them picture of the part in my phone, because most of them, if not all, don't know these injection sensors/components by their true names. For example, they know oxygen sensor as Exhaust sensor.

Anyway, from what I gathered yesterday, he doesn't have it. Don't mind him! And it appears new ABS sensors are not that available over here too. Though, I didn't go to the market. I made the enquiry through phone. They seem to have only used ones.

I called ASD Motors this morning, few minutes ago. The store guy said it cost 28k per a pair (a pair is the 2 fronts or 2 rear sensors). Though, he said it's out of stock for now. But will order for one, if interested.

Good morning.

Ikenna.

thanks alot for all your trouble. In the past two days I ve tried three used abs sensors and they were all faulty. While the mechanic was removing the initial sensor of my car, I noticed how difficult it was to get the sensor out and I think that accounts for the many faulty used abs sensors in the market. Would have loved to send for one from Abuja but my experience has thought me one has to be close enough to be able to return it if it fails.meanwhile one of the guys in the only Peugeot dealership inmakurdi has offered me a used one for 7000k which I LL try dis morning. Will keep u posted thanks