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hupernikao:
Is that what the Bible teaches? Or you aren't reading properly?

Bible teaches magical things.

hupernikao:
I never said what you wrote up there. And I don't want to believe it's a deliberate lie by you. Most atheist I know, strive in this to cover their ends.

But I have shown you today that your knowledge of the scriptures is so porous and need a restart. When you restart, read it as theological book not a book explaining how the world works for you or teaching science. You have been taught wrongly.

I agree that I have porous scriptural knowledge and that’s because I don’t like magic

hupernikao:
Is that what Moses was communicating to you? I have told you the story isn't a religion story, it's in ancient secular writing, why trying to pin it on the Bible.

You need to study a lot o. To be sincere. You have much gaps in ancient world. You read Bible like a 2021 professor. Using the knowledge of 2021 to explain events of 4000 years ago will lead you to a funny destination.

You need to pack your bags and books and travel back to their time and sit under the teaching of their wise ones to understand what they are teaching. That is how you can an explain it well.

For example you saw chariots in ancient world, yet you claim there was not science or study of nature.

Am sure you will likely ask why was there no mention of rocket in the Bible since you read it as a millennia.

I need to study a 700years man who built an ark for all the animal species in then world

Christian Bible study

hupernikao:
But yet you have jumped my question.

I asked, what was the prevailing knowledge of the ancient world in the world creation, Noah, and man?

So when you know this, them start looking at your Bible the right way, extracting the wisdom being explained using those secular stories.

Stop trying to convince me that one ark housed all the animals in the world

That’s ridiculous and you should stop believing that

hupernikao:
If you are enjoying it as a story book, you will have this conclusion.

If you read it the right way, you will understand beyond the tales by moonlight you are enjoying.

Its a story book, where one 700years old man built An ark for all animals not of the world.

And supposed adults believe it

hupernikao:
You are only trying to rub your palm.

You need to start reading well. You have been thought wrongly and that's what derailed you.

You gave a story documented in many forms as being created by Moses. I told you Moses used the narrative to explain things, yet you are fixative on holding to the lies you have told. Am sure you know the day you take my narrative, that's the day you start liking the Bible.

But we can’t see the evidence in the soil that it happens?
It’s not there, it’s another religious fairytale

hupernikao:
You will need to hold the ancient world of Mesopotamia responsible for your discovering not Moses. Moses was teaching his people not the world. He was teaching a plan not science.

The Bible is a lie.
Nothing in that book happened, nothing. A fictional book for believers

hupernikao:
All these you wrote is not what we are discussing. All these you wrote was never disputed by the Bible. Bible doesn't concerns itself with all this. You are the one applying it just the way you have been taught to apply it and later made you deject it.

Now, start reading it well. It's story of God's plan not tectonic or fossil. Read well Sir. Don't read science there, read theology.

The Noah’s flood and all that died miraculously disappeared from geological record or your supposed god hid the evidence.

Liars
The Bible is like Spider-Man comic, bunch nonsense believed by sentimental brains

hupernikao:
. Bear in mind. Noah's story is not a religion story, it's a story in the ancient world writings and practices.

You seems to haven't cover your study well. You need to include the old world to understand what you do.

See how you are shamelessly looking for evidence to back your beliefs instead of busy following evidence.

People who died in the supposed flood have accounts. Religion is wicked
More ridiculous lies to cover the lies.

hupernikao:
No. There can be only one meaning to a text. Either scripture or secular writing. That's the meaning you should seek for. Even if 1000 persons come with 1000 meanings. There can only be one singular meaning.

I’m sure a Jehovah witness member will disagree

hupernikao:
. Well, I don't jump into conclusion. I wasn't there. I hold no account for anyone. You are professor of life, so I am sure you can account for all.

But like I told you, Bible isn't responsible for the story but for God's plan.

You see why you kept seeing magic in the bible? You like stories and movies and it's affecting how you read a theological book.

Shit never happened, you are ignorant, accept it. That’s why you believe nonsense.

If you have accurate knowledge of How earth layers are formed and fossilization occurs then you know that it’s impossible for us not to have detected that recent mass extinction in the geological record. But what do you know, nothing aside the Bible. Your head is blank.

Palaentologists have detected mass extinction that is as old as 440million years because earth keeps records of everything that dies and it’s Noah's flood that happened barely 4,000years Ago that will miraculously disappear.

You can never have properly functioning brain if you a believer, the way you reason will be laughable and ridiculous. Instead of following evidence, you will be shamelessly looking for nonexistent evidence to back your beliefs.

That’s what beliefs reduces one to, a total ignoramus

hupernikao:
. Go and read the ancient world well Bro. That's key for you. Get all the accounts.

How can people who all died in the flood even write different accounts?

Religious people are lack of reasoning

hupernikao:
Revealed what? I hope you are reading me well without sleepy eyes.

God didn't reveal Noah's story to Moses, Moses used Noah's story to explain God's plan revealed to him.

And 1,000 Christians will say 1,000 different things about it.

Una funny die. You guys are jokers

hupernikao:
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We will have to travel back thousands of years to ascertain this. But like I told you, the story is prevalent in ancient world and you have not less than 5 different account even before Moses was born. So the problem here is not the story. Moses wasn't teaching the story but God's plan.

The literal story could be geolocated or localized but what is sure is it is prevalent in their time and that cannot be refuted.

You are ignorant that you think we have to travel back to verify if a ridiculous story of a 700years building a wooden ship to house all the terretial animals for a year happened.

This is why we think you lots are everlasting morons

hupernikao:
Magic? How?
The wisdom he passed across is God's revelation to him not the Noah's literal story. He never claimed to own Noah's story.

His imaginary friend revealed it to him via magic

You people are drunk I swear

hupernikao:
You are still repeating this.

If you stay on this, you will not read the Bible properly and will continue to say its magic.

Noah's story was not found only in the Bible. It was not Moses story. Don't you get it.


I am sure you have heard stories of how tortoise she'll got broken?

Do you take the story or the wisdom the person try to explain using the story?

You are reading it as if it's Moses creation. Read Moses well, then you will live the bible. I swear

So the story of a magic oddeysey of animals was also found in related myths.

That’s good

hupernikao:
You are still repeating this.

If you stay on this, you will not read the Bible properly and will continue to say its magic.

Noah's story was not found only in the Bible. It was not Moses story. Don't you get it.


I am sure you have heard stories of how tortoise she'll got broken?

Do you take the story or the wisdom the person try to explain using the story?

You are ready it as if it's Moses creation. Read Moses well, then you will live the bible. I swear

Did the Noah’s flood really happen?

hupernikao:
I believe what Moses revealed through the stories. Moses never wrote stories for me to believe, Moses never claimed that he owns the knowledge of the story but he owns the revelation of God's plan narrated using the story.

God revealed to him? How, if not via magic?

hupernikao:
I believe what Moses revealed through the stories. Moses never wrote that for me to believe, Moses never claimed that he owns the knowledge of the story but he owns the revelation of God's plan narrated using the story.

Ok, did the Noah’s story really happen?

hupernikao:
You need to go and review your study about science.

You only speak of organized science. Science has a first principle that you will see practiced on ancient world. It may be in unorganized form but it does existed. Go and read.

I asked you again o.

What does the world or science of Moses days interms of creation and the flood.

ok, seems I cant change your mind on that.

Please do you believe the Noah’s story?

hupernikao:
You are the one who doesn't want to face the fact. I have given you what the author wants me to be. And that's what I believe. Moses didn't write for me to be looking for the source of Noah's story. He wrote about Noah for me to see God's plan.

Noah story existed before Moses. He want the originator. But he used it to explain God's plan for me. That is what is key for me.

Do you believe the Noah’s story?

hupernikao:
Modern science is separated from engineering. In ancient world it wasn't so. No distinction. I said go and read about ancient world.

Man have been observing nature and its environment from inception. That is what we call science today. Though more organized now.

Its not science if there are no hypothesis to test. Stop arguing blindly.

Religious people are ignorant with confidence.
Science has principles that makes it different.

You make observation, make hypothesis and then design an experiment to test it.

You invent things outside of science, it doesn’t mean that the invention followed scientific principles. Science is an “organized” body of knowledge in itself and not some sort of mythical flood stories guided by a magician.

[quote author=hupernikao post=106297241][/quote]ok, go and check experimentation in science. You are getting there

hupernikao:
You aren't reading me o.

What concerns me is what Moses revealed using the story.

Animal farm is a book written using animals to explain deep knowledge of human activities.

My issues isn't with the animals but what the author revealed using the story.

You haven't focused on the essence of the Bible yet. You seems to only read the stories. Moses was not a story teller. He was a prophet of God. A teacher. He was teaching theological knowledge not science. You must see this.

You are avoiding the question.

I’m not interest in the meaning to read to it, I want to know if you believe it.

Do you believe it? Don’t tell me anything else, it’s not relevant

hupernikao:
You need to unlearn quickly. Science is as old as man. I have defined it for you.

Study of matter?
How is science just the study of matter?
Are you kidding me?

Let me school you a bit. Doctors are not scientists, engineers are not scientists, they apply scientific discoveries to.

It’s called science because you have to follow a laid down principle of experimentation in other to reach a logical conclusion. Someone that discovered something serendipitously didn’t do science, he didn’t follow the principles of science.

Science has principles and that’s what makes it science. Moses didn’t practice science

hupernikao:
Study of matter means what?
I guess matter is all around you.

Right?
Man have been studying that from the first day.

Science is not the study of matter.

Use google, always ask google when you don’t understand. Go on and use it, why is it difficult for you to do?

hupernikao:
Moses didn't write Noah's story for me to believe, Moses used Noah story to communicate God's plan for me about the fate of this earth and a way out. That is what I see when I read about Noah.

Noah story was written by others. Noah story existed before Moses, Moses wrote to Israelite who already know about Noah story so he wasn't teaching them that. Moses used the story to communicate the plan of their God for the earth.

You haven't studied the ancient world.

Do you believe Noah’s story to be true?

Answer this question, yes or no

hupernikao:
You kept speaking about organized science. Look at the definition of science and understand that man has science with him from day one.

Study of matter means what?

Theres nothing like organized science.
Science is science, none was practiced before Galileo

hupernikao:
Design of chariots is what Sir? If cars are designed today using scientific studies.

Should I define science for this guy?

You are so ignorant what science really is.

Please read up and stop embarrassing yourself. How can someone be so ignorant and still arguing?

hupernikao:
I have asked you before. Were those stories only found in the bible or they are prevalent stories of his days.

It's obvious you haven't study the ancient world. You need to so that it will help how you view things.

So, what you see in the Bible is what is obtainable in their time howbeit the writer was using same to explain God's plan.

You can call ur whatever but don’t call it science.

Do you believe the Noah’s story is true and accurate?

hupernikao:
Don't say such thing again that science doesn't exist in ancient world. Even the definition fo science should let you know that it's always being with man.

You are referring to organized science.

Chariots were built in Babylon, swords, slings etc. What is that?

So what you see in the Bible is the science of their days.

No science during the time of Moses or whatever.

Can’t you just confirm things on google? Are you allergic to information?

Aristotle and Socrates all practiced philosophical reasoning. Science didn’t start until Galileo

hupernikao:


You fail in this.

Maybe you are referring to organized science.

Science is as old as humanity.

They don't have to call it science but the practice was in existence.

They built things, use herbs for treatment

So is the science of his days different from what he wrote?

There was no science until the time of Galilee Galileo.

Go read up history science and stop making nonsense up.
Also read about history of philosophy, maybe you are confusing philosophy as science or so.

What’s the science is just concluding that kangaroo hopped from Australia to Middle East without multiple experimentations and a relatable result?