Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 10:54am On Oct 18, 2021 |
Tell them, i laugh when people still talk about 20% interest per annum in this 2021 emmanuelewumi: Return of my money is more important |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 10:07am On Oct 15, 2021 |
Strong minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Weak minds discuss people... Ciao! jobark: The last two pages have been very thought provoking and insightful I must say, very interesting debate and solid points from both angles on this argument. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 11:48am On Oct 14, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 3:29pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Like Emma will say, man know thyself. Do what works for you shikena! SeaTrade: Of course I will do the new business,but will not stop the importation business,for "man no dey know" reasons. I will use my extra funds to do it,not carry importation money and start blazing a new path and taking risks,before it blows up in my face. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 2:08pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
So if you see a business that will generate more profit than your importation business because of naira devaluation and you have trusted people who is ready to lead you, you will stick to your importation business because it is a movable gooods? SeaTrade: You think I wasn't talking from experience? So if you were importing a movable goods,you will stop because dollar go up or what? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 1:59pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Lol baba, so you too sabi am emmanuelewumi: Na street drink ooo, it is in high demand |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 1:56pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
You may have a point but all is not totally correct, this is from a personal experience as someone who was into importation. SeaTrade: They are not moving to real estate because importation is no longer profitable even with the devaluation. They are moving because their capital have supercede their market share and they are now running the business with a whole lot excess money than it requires,hence the need to diversify. Same reason I want to go into trucking,not because I no get business but because the investment don dey pass the selling power wella. You start to experience storage space problems. Too much debt your customers will owe you because you are looking for who you will dump the excess goods on and start pursuing for your money upandan. Too much slow selling goods weh go tie your money cos of excess liquidity. Too much spoilage cause storage go fill to the brim and hence your workers will have a field day damaging your goods with their legs(climbing of carton) Too much envy! Arm robbers go dey reason your matter steady cos your warehouse too full. FIRS go say make you pay VAT. wastage of time value of money buy running the business with excess capital which can't generate any more income as sales have cap,etc... |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 12:39pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 12:36pm On Oct 13, 2021*. Modified: 12:51pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
DIfferent strokes for different folks, I know many heavy weight importers from Alaba and Oduade building material market selling their stocks and moving into real estate development becauase of frequent naira devaluation. I use to do importation myself but stopped because naira devaluation keep wiping off my capital. SeaTrade: Depends on what you can import, If you are a daredevil with better connect,bros that thing go be child's play ooo. But let's play safe ,transport is a good sector as it always have demand, different unrelated clientele plus zero credit. Devaluation can only dull your sales as an importer but usually the people that bare the brunt is the populace. I am not even interested in import,na major distributor work for a moving product I dey find now but everywhere seems to be saturated!  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 12:06pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
With this frequent naira devaluation how much can thesame amount generate from importation monthly? SeaTrade: Still poor! With this you no fit recover your money in 2 years when you take away expenses,NURTW,local government and their bastard agbero!! 500k-600k/week makes more sense tbh... If you want street jobs then don't buy brand new,all these 80s mack for 12m will do the job perfectly. And the longer time it takes to recoup investment,the riskier it becomes cos these things have a penchant for rolling over and getting damaged! |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 12:03pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
In Lekki you are guaranteed with Jobs everytime, infact most times we don't get supply because of short of trucks. emmanuelewumi: No that easy to have jobs every time, there are weeks you won't get jobs |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 11:56am On Oct 13, 2021 |
My mistake, brand new howo can generate 1.2M monthly that is 300-350k weekly, without accident this amount is guaranteed in Lekki which i'm converstant with. SeaTrade: You see where the problem is? Why should a person spend 30M+ to be chasing 350k monthly na haba!!! When will the truck now balance up its investment? I have been looking at some random figures yesterday and I noticed something. Most people that have contract jobs for these things prefer HOWO.They always insist on HOWO or nothing. 2)I noticed they pay per tonnage, I saw 15,000/ton from ogun to cross river. So if a person buy a 40 ton HOWO truck brand new,it will cost like 38-40m. So paying me 15k/ton implies the trip is 15k/ton×40ton carrying capacity=600k/trip. And when coming back,they load some other thing to the base,meaning 1,2m/round trip. According to data,2 round trips can be made weekly,meaning 4,8m/month gross. Then go to expenses and so on,you find out that the truck can recoup its investment in 15-18months which isn't bad,provided it suffers no major damage which is unlikely since I will prefer to buy brand new abeg,I no get strength for old vehicles olorun! Buy good insurance and I think by so doing a person have mitigated most of the risks. Then the remaining problem now will be local government people and their useless agbero tax and NURTW wahala! Then put tracker to monitor driver too thrn pay driver per trip. But all these are just theory as I have no major experience in this. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 11:47am On Oct 13, 2021 |
Mistake on my previous message, i mean brand new Howo can generate 300-350k weekly, thats around 1,200,000 monthly. emmanuelewumi: At N30 million and above, it will take about 9 years to recover the money invested.
Please correct me if I am wrong |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 11:14am On Oct 13, 2021 |
The person who manages the truck will take care of any maintenance less that 10k, any maintenance upto 100k will be taken care by the owner of the truck..both parties can also negotiate on how to share the maintenance cost too, brand new Howo is unlikely to develop any serious problem in 2years except in a case of accident, the only maintenance which is likely to cost more money is changing of tyres but it is always advisable to buy up to 4 brand new tyres while buying the truck..this way you will enjoy the truck for up to a year without headache..I think a brand new one cost thirty something M. emmanuelewumi: How much is the driver's salary? How much will he keep every month to take care of emergency and maintenance?
How much is the truck? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 9:47am On Oct 13, 2021*. Modified: 11:48am On Oct 13, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 9:45am On Oct 13, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 9:37pm On Oct 12, 2021 |
Buy 10 tyres sand truck, carry am come Lekki and make good money provided you have a driver you can trust or you can put tracker on it. But free ukwu no dey Lekki tho  SeaTrade: Hello chief, Good evening. Please say a friend of mine has made up his mind to buy a truck(Howo ) dumptruck for sand and gravel, How much should he expect as weekly/monthly returns? Which would you advise the person to buy? Sand,trailer,or which? I don't like tanker because I feel its market is limited? Or is it? Please help me out here,thank you. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 10:40pm On Oct 08, 2021 |
Pedal down guy, the only nuisance we have in this thread is lazzyyut, you have always given us some ogogoro jokes and we love that. Cheers. OgogoroFreak: You understand the whole thing but you quote my comment instead of that of the Buffoon JustforMen. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 7:54pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
I did CP with them but through FBN private banking. pizapato: Please how does one go about fixing USD with FBN? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 3:17pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
You are correct at the bolded, one of the advantages too is no interest will be charged on amount withdrawn and paid back in less than a month. emmanuelewumi: You are financially literate, if not the bank won't give you a loan.
Overdraft is good for business people, with turnover in their accounts. Interest will be calculated on the amount drawn down, when funds are in the account interest stops counting |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 2:31pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
So what did you use as collateral to make the facility 15% emmanuelewumi: That is how overdraft facility works, if you used your fixed deposit as a collateral you can get interest rate of 9% or below depending on what the bank is paying on your fixed deposit |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 2:30pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
Correct, welldone baba. I want to be financial literate like you when i grow up  emmanuelewumi: That is how overdraft facility works, if you used your fixed deposit as a collateral you can get interest rate of 9% or below depending on what the bank is paying on your fixed deposit |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 2:24pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
Infact they advised I leave any liquid asset in USD as i can always use that to get a facility in Naira at thesame interest rate which the USD was fixed, this way the USD will always be preserved. emmanuelewumi: What did you use as collateral?
I don't think 15% is high. It is a 6 months facility, that can be rolled over.
Assuming you got a loan of N1 million, you are expected to pay back the N1 million in 6 months and an interest of N75,000. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 2:16pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
Mine is a year facility which can be rolled over, I used liquid asset as collateral, the interest received from the liquid asset will be used to service the facility and the interest will be charged based on how much i use in a month. Assuming i use 1M in a month, interest will only be charged on the 1M. emmanuelewumi: What did you use as collateral?
I don't think 15% is high. It is a 6 months facility, that can be rolled over.
Assuming you got a loan of N1 million, you are expected to pay back the N1 million in 6 months and an interest of N75,000. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 12:34pm On Oct 06, 2021 |
15% is high, I recently got a single digit facility from FBN Private banking. emmanuelewumi: Yes I have a Stockbroking account with them for the part 10 years, it was a subsidiary of GTB. Formerly known as GT Asset Management before they sold through Management Buyout due to CBN policy. I also have a money market fund Investment and guaranteed income Investment with them
I recently got a facility from the consumer finance subsidiary of United Capital at 15% per annum which is about the cheapest rate in town, the subsidiary is called UC Plus Advance limited.
I also do business with Stanbic IBTC Asset Management, FSDH Asset Management and FBN Asset Management.
You can confirm from all these organizations if I am paid to share my experience concerning their services.
As a matter of fact I don't have investment in any of the Finance houses, I only get loans and other credit facilities from them
Getting N10 loan from them is different from Investing my N10 with them |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 1:11pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 7:46am On Oct 05, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 4:05pm On Oct 04, 2021*. Modified: 8:39pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Allboiz: It seems transfer from one domiciliary account to another within in Nigeria is free. I did from Access to fcmb and no charge was removed. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 4:05pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 9:40am On Oct 04, 2021*. Modified: 10:16am On Oct 04, 2021 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 12:38am On Oct 02, 2021 |
You are doing well, respect!! emmanuelewumi: Real Estate is the easiest, don't bother yourself about other areas |