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Princefrankie1:
Yea I know you are serious. But you misunderstood my point. I am not taking about just Real Madrid, I mean the overall performances of Spanish laliga teams in the Uefa table.

Trophies won, Runners up, Simi finals, winning percentage, that's what I meant bro.
Anyway let's leave that aside and talk about more important things.

Anybody with a good market in football or any other sports betting should notify so we can team up and win some bucks this new season.

Yea, that's true.

Herrmes:
What I'm saying is you're comparing teams that aren't equals on an international level, Chelsea might have beat Barcelona and Madrid but their achievements cannot touch a strand of hair on Madrid or Barcelona's skin.
Years down the line, nobody would say the referee helped sh!t
That scoreline has to be one of the most deceiving ways to describe the match.

I agree with you on your first point.

But the second one, we all know why some people refer to Barca as uefalona. Even after the match, some UK pundits dug up some matches where the ref, helped Barca to rob other teams, most memorably twice against Chelsea, i don't need you to agree with me but that's just the truth.

Princefrankie1:
I know deep down in me that you have got no chill. Lmao.

Easy with the guy bro. All na hustling.

Mugu fall, guyman chop.

It's very annoying bro, sometimes last year i fell for something like this, the only thing that saved my money was access bank poor network.

The guy already convinced me, so i agreed to send 10k to him so I could get his 450odds. For my mind if i staked 10k on that kind of 'sure odds' I've made it in life.

When i transferred the money, i got a transaction unsuccessful response, i did it again, i got the same response, i was very nervous cos it was like 15 minutes to the time he told me the first match will start.

After like two minutes, I got two debit alerts, totalling 20k,i told him what happened and begged him to just send me the game so I could play it and I would settle him later.

He said No, and he sent me the slip with the booking code and the matches covered like that thief did up there, he said he wouldn't send me the game until i pay and if i don't pay he will show me his won ticket later on.

I just gave up, after few hours, my money was reversed into my account, and i was beginning to suspect him.
The next day, I asked for the won ticket, he sent me another thing entirely .

Since that day I've been in love with Access Bank

Princefrankie1:
Lol. Brother Ximenez, you will never give up will you?

Alright.

Let's just stick to our believes bro, and ignore the facts. Lol

No Victor, No Vanquish �

No I'm serious o, this is not about victory or anything. You can check what i wrote online

Madrid only joined when they won La Decima in 2014, before that the last time they were in the final was 2002.

Herrmes:
The reasons are not anybody's business, what is everybody's business is the fact that it's happening.
Another point, this wasn't a fight for Madrid, they won comfortably, even Sevilla put up much more of a challenge last season.
Is last season's Man City the only Man City to have ever played the Champions league?
Chelsea won Madrid once and have a bigger advantage in head to head vs Barcelona according to you, so?
What do they have to show for it? You gotta keep your eye on the price.

What do you mean what do they have to show for it? The last time Chelsea beat Barca it got them their first uefa champions league trophy, the last time Chelsea beat Madrid it got them and European trophy too, so those are the prizes.

I didn't say Chelsea have a bigger advantage over Barca because they beat Madrid once. They beat both Barca and Madrid separately.

Barca is a wonderful team, but they can be something else with a little help from the refree, we all saw what happened last season against PSG, and a lot of people even voted for the match to be replayed.

It won't matter though, as they couldn't score a single goal against juventus.

Ps :2-1 is not a comfortable win in football

njuree6:
Are you tired of lossing..here will come again with sure fixed odd ..try your own today and be one of our winnner..dont doubt it is real .Add it up for todays game

Go and borrow money from your father and stake on your fixed game, after you win you can fix the poverty in your generation. I just hope you won't pass this kind of thing to your children. Maybe it's your grandfather that fixed Madrid vs Man U, a uefa super cup final. Do you even know how difficult it is to fix a game in a lower league division, all the processes, from the managers, to the players and match officials. But your grandfather miraculously fixed a uefa match for you.

Like i said, go and borrow 5k and stake on it to fix your life.
Thief!

Princefrankie1:
You are right in some of your assertions, but as for the emboldened, Epl or any other league have never toped Laliga in the Uefa Champions League points coefficient table.

Laliga have always been represented in Europe always, either by Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Villareal, Deportivo, et al.

They have always been there to compete. Always. And that clearly shows their quality and level of consistency.

PS, I am a Chelsea fan. But I just don't buy the Epl better than Laliga story.

It was nice discoursing with you bro.

Have a pleasant day ahead.

You are wrong about one thing, between 2011 and late 2014 Chelsea was the third in the uefa quotient ranking,

It was :
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Chelsea.

So don't say no epl team or any league has ever topped bayern in the uefa ranking. As the ranking changes depending on performances.

What do you think happened all those times Bayern beat Barcelona 7 goals to 1 and Dortmund beat Madrid

Princefrankie1:
Yea. You are right. Aston Villa and Newcastle. My mistake.

But yet Laliga wins.

You see my friend, I agree with you that LA Liga is superior because of these two players, Messi and Ronaldo. The two are just gifts from God to La Liga, but we all know it can't last forever. Before the emergence of those two, I hope you knw how it was going then. That's why I was happy when Neymar left, and I wish Liverpool won't release coutinho. As it stands Barcelona is already weakened

Princefrankie1:
If you observed well, you would have noticed that I didn't bother to continue typing the names of teams in Spain that have made the top four since 1992.

I mistakenly left out just Newcastle and Aston Villa for England.

If I decide to run down the whole teams in Laliga that have made the top four since 1992, the list goes like this.

REAL MADRID, BARCELONA, ATLETICO MADRID, SEVILLA, VALENCIA, VILLAREAL, ATLETICO BILBAO, DEPORTIVO LACORUNA, MALAGA, CELTA VIGO, MALLORCA, REAL SOCEIDAD, ZARAGOZA, REAL BETIS.

Compare that to your almighty Epl.

I hope you are satisfied now.

Enjoy the rest of your day!

But the top four is not the major thing, the major thing is for that first and second position to change.

When last did that happen in La Liga? It must always involve Barca or Madrid in first or second.

In 2015 Leicester was first and Arsenal was second

In 2016 Chelsea was first and Tottenham was second

Princefrankie1:
I don't understand what you mean by Epl schedule affecting the teams. Does Barcelona or Real Madrid play Laliga on the Friday before Champions League games?

You guys can make excuses for Africa. Some will say it's because the Epl matches are tougher and it takes a toll on Epl teams in Europe. Can you imagine that? Lol

Teams like Bournemouth, Burnley, Westham, Westbrom and the likes are tough? Come on!

As for your question about Manchester United being the best team in Epl, the answer is, Yes they are. Because they are the most successful till date. No contest.

A team that won 13 Epl titles in 21 years? Check the maths bro.

If they are not the best, I wonder who is.

Has any la Liga team ever played three matches in the space of seven days before? If yes, what team, cos man u did it last season.


Your talk about Man U being the best team in England, I don't know if it's right to use history to judge. Because you can once be rich and then become poor. And when you are poor and someone wants to draw up a list of the top rich people, you won't make the list cos you were once rich.

When last did man u win the premier league, Chelsea have won it twice, man city twice and Leicester city once since then

You can only say man u has won the most premier league in history but in the course of doing that they don't boast the records some teams who have won it have.

Arsenal won it without getting beaten in the whole season

Chelsea won with a record number of games won 30

Chelsea also won it with the highest points, 95 in 2006 i think, and the highest number of goals in 2010

Those teams have those records over man u, they can as well be called the best team for that.

Man U is the most successful club in England cos they've won it more than any other team in the past, but that's history, they drew over 13 games last season and finished sixth. So Man U is not the best team in England.

Herrmes:
Give me an EPL team that can challenge Barca or Real Madrid.
Barca And Real Madrid are just Miles better than any other team in the world, that's why they dominate not just La Liga, the world too.

What are you even saying now? Cos Madrid beat Man U 2 goals to 1 yesterday.

The X factors in both teams are Messi and Ronaldo, but even with Messi Barcelona were still well beaten by man city at the Etihad last season.
Go and check the head to head of Chelsea and Barcelona, the only time Chelsea met Madrid in an European competition, Chelsea won.

Princefrankie1:
Alright brother. I will reply you one last time because I have enjoyed our discourse and it's been abuse free, I commend you for that.

You see, at the emboldened, you are once again WRONG. Those are the kind of unfounded claims you guys make that I am trying to correct.

The following is culled from Wikipedia.

one significant feature of the Epl during the mid-2000s was the dominance of the so-called "Big Four" clubs: Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

During this decade, they dominated the top four spots, which came with UEFA Champions League qualification, taking all top four places in 5 out of 6 seasons from 2003–04 to 2008–09 inclusive. [Sic]

Arsenal went as far as winning the league without losing a single game in 2003–04.

In May 2008, Kevin Keegan stated that "Big Four" dominance threatened the division, "This league is in danger of becoming one of the most boring but great leagues in the world." [Sic]

The trend continued until Tottenham and Manchester City broke the dominance in the years following 2009.

Manchester City won the title in the
2011–12 season , becoming the first club outside the "Big Four" to win since 1994–95. [sic]

You see bro, the Epl has been dominated by a few teams, precisely Manchester United. From 1992 to 2013, 21 long years, United won 13 Epl titles. Leaving just 8 titles for Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City to share.

And you say it is more COMPETITIVE because anybody can win it? Who told you so? Except you have a different definition of that term COMPETITIVE.

I decided to quote wikipedia this time to see if you will now argue with wiki. Lol

As for Laliga, let me take from 1992, (that is the year of Epl inception) to bring equity to the argument.

All of REAL MADRID, BARCELONA, ATLETICO MADRID, SEVILLA, VALENCIA, DEPORTIVO LACORUNA, ATLETICO BILBAO, VILLAREAL, CELTA VIGO, MALAGA have made the top four on different occasions.

In Epl, it's been MANCHESTER UNITED, ARSENAL, CHELSEA, LIVERPOOL, EVERTON, MANCHESTER CITY, TOTTENHAM, and finally, LEICESTER.

You can now make your comparisons bro. Lol

Argue with facts brother. This two Leagues are not mates in anything. Anything!!!

Wrong again, the likes of Aston villa, Blackburn Rovers and Newcastle also made the top four within those periods

Aston villa came second in 1993
Blackburn came second in 1994

Blackburn won it in 1995

Newcastle came second in 96,97

So since 1992, it has been man u, man city, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Leicester, Everton, Blackburn, Newcastle, Aston villa.

One of major things affecting English teams in Europe is the hectic fixtures and the FA are more concerned about TV right and money to address that

Princefrankie1:
Be sincere bro. What didn't show?
Na wa o. Una sabi lie well well.

That match that was like Real Madrid vs Getafe Until Zidane decided to substitute Bale and Isco for little children to alleviate the impending humiliation.

It should have been 4nil before Matic's shot that Lukaku pounced on.

Zidane had to show some respect by taking off Bale and Isco for Varquez and Asensio in that crucial time of the match.

Remember Mourinho complained that Conte should have showed some respect last season when he was still on the touchline motivating Chelsea players to score more goals after being 4nil up. Lol

Zidane didn't want a repeat of that. Mourinho was already talking to Zidane after they were 2nil up and Bale hit the post from close range. That's why he took of his two best players, and told Ronaldo to wait until the final minutes of the game.

Mourinho had this to say after the game: "In the Premier League, there's no team like Real Madrid. There are no replicas of Isco, Modric, Casemiro or Kroos."


Don't worry, you guys might meet again in the Champions League. Lol

I'm not a Man U fan. I'm just saying the match was closely contested. Man U had their chances too. There's nothing like could have, would have in football, in the end it's the result that matters. Leaving isco on for more time maybe might have affected the game, but Bale had no influence on the match at all. He's not even in the first eleven by merit, but they might decide to use him anytime they remember how much they bought him.

Shakitibob0:
Be sincere...if there will be a rematch, will you place a win bet on Man utd?

Why not? I'm sure you are conversant with what can happen in football. The odds will be high, but Man U can win Madrid

AnthonioAlsaid:
9japredict that sounds more like a prediction site than a betting company

It's a betting company o, i started with them in 2014

AnthonioAlsaid:
your hatred,poverty and envy does not change anything


I just got off the phone with him

who told you I haven't seen the slip ( dude you're stupid)


you expect someone or me to share a coupon code on a slip that has not been redeemed



get lost!!!!!

Lol bro, i hope the bookie is not 9japredict cos if it is there's no chance you would be able to collect that money in 50 years. Someone won 800k with them, they reduced it to 78k and disabled his withdrawal.

I learnt that the bookie is run by one guy and his two sisters as their customer care agents

People have started staking on Asian teams again

hopefulLandlord:
You could tell that one team had to beat Juve, Bayern, Atlético, Napoli to win their trophy, while the other had to beat Anderlecht, Rostov, Ajax & Zorya Luhansk to win theirs.

It didn't show at all, if it does Madrid should have won with a margin of 4 goals or more.

Had it been that through ball that was laid fell into the hands of a more experienced striker and not a 19 year old boy.

rman:
How did they end up in the champions league when they were 12th? They were the defending EPL champion that season!

They guy has presented facts, your arguments are watery. He is right about you though. You will never change your mind. Claiming you cannot predict who will win EPL when we all know it is basically between 4 teams and LA Liga between 4 too (Real, Athletico, Barca and always a 4th dark horse. Villarieal, Sevilla etc)

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion. That is you! A typical Nigerian!

It's not just 4 teams bro, there are 5 or 6 teams but in Spain there are just about 2 or 3. Just look at how many times Madrid or Barcelona has won it in the past 10 years, I think ATM was only able to get in between them once.
But four different teams have won the premier league in the last 10 years, and the order of the table is always changing, Tottenham came third in 2016 and second in 2017

Princefrankie1:
Bros, Real Madrid score lots of goals because they are unarguably the best team in the world.

Their performance outside Laliga should abrogate your doubts. In the past 4 years, they have won 3 Champions League trophies. Scoring mouth watering goals past the best European teams like Bayern Munich, Juventus, Atletico Madrid, et al.

Check their Champions League performance table for confirmation.

Imagine a team scoring 4 goals past a team of Juventus' calibre in Champions League final?

Same way Barcelona humiliated Manchester United in the Champions League final at their own backyard in Wembley. I can never forget that day.

Same way Atletico Madrid disgraced Chelsea in the Uefa Super Cup final.

Same way Sevilla humbled Liverpool in the 2016 Europa League final.

Same way an 11th placed Laliga team, Atletico Bilbao outclassed Manchester United in their last-16 tie in the 2012 Europa League.
The gap in quality didn't start today bro, it have "tayed." Lol

So tell me, if Real Madrid can score 4 past teams like Bayern and Juventus in the Champions League, who then is Arsenal, Chelsea, Mancity, Man United, Bournemouth, Westbrom, Sunderland, Westham, Stoke City, Everton, Watford, and all other mediocre Epl teams?

Mind you, fews hours ago, they battered the best team in Epl: Manchester United. They were lucky, it could have been 4 or more. Zidane had to show some respect by taking away Bale and Isco for little boys Asensio and Varquez in the 65th minute. Lol

Your argument is flawed, and your case dismissed.

Goodnight!

And who gave the award of the best team in the premier league to Man U? I guess it's you, A team that has not won the league for close to five years now and finished 6th.

Mind you, that super cup final was a competitive game, and on another day Man U could have won. And what normally affect epl teams in European competitions is the schedule of the league matches, mou had to make some sacrifice last season by resting players and it paid off.

The English teams should fare better in the UCL this season, three of the five teams who will be representing England have won it before so the experience is there unlike last season which featured some European weaklings like Arsenal, Leicester and Tottenham for England. Even when Barcelona came to Etihad last season they were well beaten

Franky826:
nice punchline

is that a punchline or you are looking for something else. She's merely buttressing my point. Some tecno fans should stop thinking that people who buy high end phones like Samsung, Sony, Huawei are wasting money cos they are able to get their own with the same or superior specs on paper for cheap. The truth is in the end you get the value for your money performance-wise.

optional1:

which kind question be this one..


liverpool abi kidneypool one of them sha..

Liverfluke

youngster12:
Game lost guys I'm so pained right now

Thanks for today, there will be less lamentations this night cos of you.

optional1:
more than a decade my dear

, from where did Raul Meireles joined Chelsea?

MizMyColi:
Same way you can't compare 30k to 300k

correct, you deserve HTC u11

alcmene:
Atleast I didn't brag about having Uba as a kinsman

Well, Aboki means friend, so anytime you are calling anyone Aboki, you are calling the person your friend

optional1:
Thank you oh and my name is Amy just what he wants....



hopefullandlord now you can have it cos my name is Amy...

So what next?

since when have you been following Chelsea?

alcmene:
Dangote is an abokii yet his abokki brother is being paraded for buying stolen motorcycle to feed his wives and 35 kids.

Doesn't matter, how does the numerous igbo people that have been executed in the Asian countries this year affected ifeanyi ubah and innoson

alcmene:
What the names mean in your language is none of my business.

Where I come from, when I want my dirty shoes to be polished or want my nails cut, or any other dirty and menial jobs I jejely echo ABOKKKI through the window and that's all.

That's cool, but the same 'Malams' too will decide when and how your salary will be paid if you are lucky to be employed by the government

You should still remember how the decision of a single Malam in Adamu Adamu affected the education sector in respect to admission last year method into universities.

Even Dangote is an 'Aboki' abi?

That's how some poor people will come here and slaughter one another over nothing.

Like many people have said before me, they are all the same

alcmene:
The reason we call them mallam, abokk1 and all sort of derogatory names....

No means of livelihood yet you have wives, 35 kids and numerous grandchildren.

Anyway I still prefer him to the afonja human part merchants

So you think Malam and Aboki are derogatory names or you are just ignorant of their meaning.

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