₦airaland Forum

mrsage:
@xtremecre8 why no go straight to the CBN. The banking sector regulator.

The CBN is more involved in the affairs of banks compared to the NSE

Well noted sir. Actually we copied the CBN governor our petition to the Director General of the Nigerian Stock Exchange but will seriously consider taking your advice. Thank you for the guidance sir. We are grateful.

OkoAmarashy:
@xtremecre8, First Bank is panicking and trying to suppress this issue. They have sacked those who know about this deal, the dispensable pawns at least. They are presently recruiting the replacements for those fired in order to wipe human records.

If you eventually take this matter anywhere, request to speak to the occupants of these positions as at the date you were commissioned that job.

https://www.myjobmag.com/jobs/last-jobs-at-first-bank-of-nigeria-limited

Wow!!We were blown away by this revelation although we had to visit the myjobmag website and take some time to look for it on other platforms just to confirm and we eventually did confirm it's actually from them.
Here it is on LinkedIn, you are right sir.

https://ng.linkedin.com/jobs/firstbank-nigeria-jobs?trk=expired_jd_redirect

Thank you sir. We didn't do or plan for them any harm but they still treated us unfairly so if they have no peace now, they and whatever they lay hands upon won't have peace until they take this burden of yoke they, First Bank, placed on our organisation

We know and have a record of everyone involved in the treachery against us and we know that truth will always prevail.
We have no doubt that they will make mistakes again if the whole recruitment is to take away people who were directly Involved in the whole commissioning of us to design their 125th Anniversary logo.
When the criminal angle of their infringement on our IP rights is pursued some day, they will personally have to answer to their roles in both personal capacity and as representatives of the bank. Was it the bank that adviced itself to use our IP rights without our permission or someone actually did it and now want the bank as an institution to take the bullets for him or her?
They will not get away with injustice in the face of God and man sir.
Thank you for having our back sir. May God bless you.

qualityGod:
God will definitely cause havoc to the homes of each and everyone that cheats you.just believe .karma will visit their homes.

Interestingly, it's the divine law of natural justice to keep the population of evil people low in this world. It is not a curse as some people think. There place in divine judgement is settled.
Thank you for having our back sir. This is the worst difficulty we have ever experienced. In fact, not until lately, anyone who comes into our organisation would think we are mourning but for these past few days God brought us helpers like you, we have been gradually coming out of our forlorn state.
Thank you sir.

qualityGod:
how I wish I can just flogg your bum bum for your childish attitude,buhari is not the problem of this country is people like u

Hmmm. Thank you for standing in our defence. We are grateful sir.

SocialJustice:
Abeg go sleep. The only thing you will gain from this exercise is public sympathy, you won't see your money and you most likely may no get another big brand client again. I really wish you well.

We will always get clients because we are divinely favoured but we need money to do the jobs we get and could not do because we had the misfortune of working for a big brand like FBN and spending a significant amount of our resources to do the design of the 125th Anniversary logo of big brand First Bank, a big brand which has refused to pay us.
However, we are happy that you eventually wished us all. The good books says that even your enemies will bless you if you are on the path of truth and Justice.
Thank you sir.

SocialJustice:
Abeg go sleep. The only thing you will gain from this exercise is public sympathy, you won't see your money and you most likely may no get another big brand client again. I really wish you well.

We will always get clients but we need money to do some of the jobs we got and could not do because we had the misfortune of working and spending a significant amount of our resources to do the design of the 125th Anniversary logo of big brand First Bank.
However, we are happy that you eventually wished us all. The good books says that even your enemies will bless you if you are on the path of truth and Justice.
Thank you sir.

Okuda:
you would die begging... yeye..

SocialJustice:
Lol, trying to feel important in your demented state.

Hmmm. Thank you for trolling us sir.Sir, on the contrary, we don't want to feel important as we have already made full disclosure of our brand as a small brand.
By our knowledge of Human Psychology, the ONLY reason you could be so angry to the point of using unsavoury uncharitable words on us and sustain your tirades against us in favour of our oppressor First Bank is because of the annonymity this platform provides, you're a biased and interested party who obviously is in physical and emotional discomfort by our resolve to demand for payment from FIRST Bankfor our hardwork designing their 125th Year anniversary logo.
This is exactly how Mr Jide Aboderin progressed in his attack on us until we found out that he has a working relationship with Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and First Bank but with your own identity hidden but still writing like them with that irritated tone of frustration caused by our campaign, it's safe to assume you are Mr Jide Aboderin or part of trolls after us and all working together sir .
Unlike you and your sponsors, we will keep our campaign within limits of decency and avoid all forms of distraction.

tee10:
NSE will throw your petition into the dustbin, become they do not have the legal powers to do what you are asking them.

You are asking NSE to preform the functions of a law court

Now you can go ahead and write Securities and Exchange Commission too, it still amounts to wasting your time. Go read about the Ansbury vs Oando ownership tussle

You are killing your own brand here and not First bank, while burning your money too...keep it up

Remember I told you so when you go bankrupt

Okuda:
another piece of trash. i wish i read past the first two lines. enjoy your slavery and slavery/begging mentality

SocialJustice:
I'll be here to laugh at your foolishness for years when this is over.

Thank you for trolling us so far. Ota nretii ibaje, nibo lo fi t'Oluwa si(The Pharaohs we see today will be no more tomorrow).
We will remain resolute. Your character is determined by where you stand in difficult moments .So despite how FIRST Bank and online trolls throw darts at us, we will remain resolute and will get justice. The good thing is that trial of perpetrator of crime is not statute barred and things can't remain like this forever so definitely the day of atonement for those who terrorize us today will come someday. A labourer is worthy of his wages,so are we after labouring for FIRST Bank to design their 125th Anniversary logo.
#IleriOluwa

Niseed:
But that's not the question I asked Sir, we have established that you haven't been paid for the logo....yes?

My question is did you invoice them? It seems to me that you didn't, hence the reason why you cant provide an answer.

As much as I sympathize with your plight and hope you get paid for your labour but it looks like you want to charge in retrospect.

How do you get paid for a job when no figure was attached or invoiced in the first place?

What is the value placed on this job? You have every right to seek compensation since they used it without without signing off from you (which is where you have them by the balls) but surely even you understand that you need legal counsel for this.

Thank you so very much for your lucid explanation and we believe you are truly sincere in your enquiry.
Sir, FBN was appropriately invoiced and we have not billed in retrospect.We sufficiently addressed all this in the Saharareporters interview sir.
Please kindly watch the interview from the beginning to the end. You will see the sequence of events that will eventually point to you when and how the illegal use of our IP was disingenuously perpetuated by FBN. They did it and want to get away with it.
We clearly followed through all the right processes sir.
Please watch the video patiently sir

Niseed:
@xtremecr8 you've gone ahead to send these letters and other correspondence to other parties and now NSE, but at no point have you attached your invoices and stated the amount first bank owes you for the work done.

Why is that a problem?

Niseed:
How much is First Bank Owing you for this logo?

We have treated this same question you and even Mr Jide Aboderin repeated several times sir.
When we have not been paid a dime for designing the logo of big brand First for its 125th Year anniversary logo so we don't believe the issue is about invoice perhaps if except you're suggesting that First Bank is saying it has paid us which is not what Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney stated.
You should please help us ask First Bank Plc if it has paid us or if we should not be paid for designing their 125th year Anniversary logo.
Those two fundamental questions have nothing to do with invoices except if you are attempting to take us back to the script of those trolls ,PR agents,Top bloggers.
We have stated why NSE needs to protect the investment of investors in First Bank before it is too late.
You may watch our saharareporters interview again sir.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew

tee10:
I don’t think he wants our advice, his motives are different. I’m certain of one thing this thrend will a achieve next too nothing other than noice

tee10:
LOL
You can go to NSE but you can’t visit First bank legal department? Neither can you go to court?

Anyway from a legal point of view nothing will come out of your NSE action this is because this isn’t a shareholder - company dispute
You are wasting time and resources doing the wrong thing

It’s unfortunate that you don’t listen to good advice, we be here to tell you “we told you so” when you run out of money

Thank you for trolling us sir. To you it's very funny but when it comes back to haunt you in real life, when you work hard and don't get paid, you may remember this day and how you mocked us. It was when you first mocked us that Saharareporters invited us for an interview, you have mocked us again and our cry has reached the ear of another very fair minded organisation. You're pushing us to get favour from even places we never thought possible.
You seem to have a very convenient response on behalf of Firstbank for the NSE but we will wait just a bit to watch if NSE will be careless with an issue that will eventually diminish the investment of others in First Bank both here in Nigeria and overseas.
Nobody who participate or benefit from injustice will go unpunished.They will eventually lose all,please mark our words sir.
Please go and tell them that we will remain resolute with our legitimate demand, we will succeed in our quest and eventually become an inspiration to countless other small brands who have been bullied, mocked by online trolls for speaking up when they're cheated by deep pocket big brands.

glowskillz:
You are talking as if it is not this same Nigeria we are all in.
It's easy for us all to advice them to go court, but unless you have been living under a rock, you will know that the Nigeria judicial system is pure shit, especially towards the common man, to the extent that if they are even able to hold their own in court, pay lawyers for years, it is their grandchildren that will collect whatever they might win. And that's after so many adjournments, taking to various higher court after each win (assuming they win), etc.

They are in a very tight spot no doubt. But one thing you rightly said though is that story still doesn't seem complete.

Working with a power house like FBN will mostly involve contract, invoice (even if it is Proforma invoice), etc. No matter how small a company you are.

These are things that would guarantee you get paid. These are things if you have, you won't be afraid to go see the legal team.

So really, I just don't know what to say about the whole thing.

P.S: @xtremecr8 it will be nice if you show like a process of making the logo. From idea stage, paper scribble, first draft etc.

There's nothing hidden under the sun sir. We were victim of a system that allows people who take decisions on behalf of big brands to take advantage of the small brands by cheating them.
We didn't sign out the intellectual property to the logo we created. No contract or any document anywhere in the world will allow you to take someone's hardwork for free if he has not given it to you. They would have paid us if we were related to anyone of them sir.

hotwax:
So what's stopping you from taking them to court?

Oh don't tell me you are doing this to save your relationship with them. As far as am concerned, this relationship is already truncated the moment you come to this forum to expose their brand.

I am somehow tilted towards FBN. I still haven't seen actions from you...I feel something is missing here.

Mind you I have a tech startup too.. And my dream is to work with brands like fbn.

There is court of Industries..or something like that. Do the right thing. God will crown your effort

We already addressed those concerns in this thread and videos including the video of our interview conducted by Saharareporters. Please kindly go through sir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew

Thank you for the prayers. We say Amen and may God give you phenomenal breakthrough with big brands that won't kill small brands.
Here's a letter we just served the Director of the Nigerian Stock Exchange yesterday. Honestly, we don't think we will ever work with First Bank Plc again. The relationship has been that of a big brand wanting to crush and annihilate us as a small brand. Seems everything require you to be highly connected like the Mr Jide Aboderins.
Sir, getting the job on merit, doing the job great and delivering at great time doesn't mean you will get paid for the job if we go by our own experience with FIRST Bank .

Okuda:
you stup.id nigerians are so mentally bound to your slave masters that even your right you beg for it. why dont you furcking take them to court? why are you begging for sympathy from nigerians? if them no fit pay you na we wan beg them to pay you? if you are doing image damage let us know so we know how to support you but coming here to beg for pity and synpathy in a subtle way from God knows where.. you need to get the furck out of here. imagine saying you dont habe business with their legal team say na accounting team. pieces of shit. i can see why they are even doing you guys like trash! no business confidence. im sure your predator already saw that and decides to take you for a furcking ride!

Please calm down sir.You don't need to insult a people that perhaps include your parents, uncles etc because you consider yourself better than them. No human being is better than the other, the difference is just in the opportunities we are privileged to have and take in life. Please don't be proud because pride goes before a fall.
We are decent people not unreasonable. We don't fantasize that the Nigeria of our dreams is going to fall on our laps or write just for write sake. To destroy is easy but not everyone can build. We respect the sacrifice made by the founders of First Bank and a few upright people still in the institution and that's why we know that we owe the organisation to decently insist they do the right thing. If you have been a bit more patient, you would have realised that our plea is legitimate and we are not arrogant. You are abusing the privilege of the annonymity the platform has given you when you write this incoherently with a lot of swear words but we assume you can't be like this in real life and be as relatively successful as you are.
The issue is very simple, we worked and didn't get paid, to get the remedy for it, confrontational approach or swearing at those who terrorize you is cheap. Begging them to see reason is a fair and matured way to protect them from the severe consequence of acting like Pharaoh.It is not a sign of weakness.
We will beg Jide Aboderin, Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney, Mr Adeduntan and all of top management of FBN, all of them , to do the right thing before they destroy the legacy of their founders and it's within our right to do so.
Thank you for your feedback though. We pride ourselves as patriotic citizens of this country and will do our best to lift the banner of Nigeria.

Out of respect for the authorities we have submitted the letter to today, we will limit the content you can read here to the first page of our petition against FBN to the NSE, we have no doubt that they will wade in and help us beg FIRST bank to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo.
We don't wish to escalate our legitimate campaign to overseas jurisdictions where FBN is still using our intellectual property and not paid us a dime and still grandstanding.
Please kindly bear with us just for now.
We will keep you posted. Thank you for all your help and support.

The Director General,
Nigeria Stock Exchange Plc,
Marina,
Lagos.
Attention: ONYEAMA, Oscar(Mr)

Dear sir

How The Failure of First Bank To pay us for designing Their 125th Year Logo Can Harm The Investors, Investing Public and Their Rumoured Merger/Acquisition: *A call for your quick intervention.


Congratulations on the successful demutualization of the exchange sir.

Above subject matter refers.

Who we are:
We are xtremecr8tivity.An indigenous small sized Nigerian company.

What we do:

Our True Passion.We are experts in creativity, our true passion lies in using the brightest ideas to strategically connect brands.

*Our Plea:*
That first bank pays us our bill for creating their 125th Anniversary logo.



Our Campaign:
We beg and solicit for your support to help us beg the big brand First Bank to pay us. We call first bank out over its insistence not to pay us for their 125th Anniversary logo we designed after effort to make them see reason has failed ostensibly frustrated by Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and other top management.
First Bank Plc. breached our Intellectual property rights and wants to get away with it. 

Steps taken so far?
After several attempts to make the management of first bank plc see reason to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo, we got constrained to take them to the court of public opinion which had been greeted with threat by Nigerians to move their bank accounts from first bank in reprisal for the unfair ill treatment shown to us occassioning a growing concern about the ethics of such a company listed on your premium board.

For example on www.nairaland.com, as at Sunday, 16 March,2020, for our campaign,we have the following analytics:

webizone:
The reason I tire in going into the web design and development you are doing. It's hard to get customers, even harder to get paid.
A company I should not name now, stole my idea for accident proof cars from an interview in 2012, and I didn't even get the job.

Hmmm

glowskillz:
Man! This is crazy... In as much as I would still advise getting a lawyer and visiting their legal team (which after a 2nd thought I remember this is Nigeria, small cases like this can drag on unnecessarily for years).

But all in all, I really feel for you now. In the last few pages of this thread, the level of OBVIOUS trolls that have been probably engaged directly or indirectly by "you know who", to discredit you and your claim is quite sad.

Thank you sir. We appreciate your sincere thoughts and kind words sir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew
Thank you Saharareporters. Please help us share.

jamesid29:
@OP, sir I have been following this topic from page one and watched the video you posted. From everything that has been said, I believe your motivation is not as nobles as you're trying to make it sound and what you are doing is cyber bullying. To be clear sir, I believe First bank dropped the ball by using your logo massively before finalizing pricing and payment and are trying to cover their exposure by going through legal but rather than going through the proper channels like issuing a cease and desist and officially suing them to court where all the facts of case can be examined and everyone can tender their own side of the story, you have brought the case online to try them in the court of public opinion where sentiments and he said she said is mostly all that matters.
Because of the power dynamics at play(them being a big company and you being a small company), you have essentially removed their ability to defend themselves because no matter what they do, if they try to engage you online, public sympathy will always be against them.

Sir with respect, your excuses for not going the legal route first don't really hold water. We have seen people with far less resources than you have stood up against bigger names. If you really want to standup for your right, do it the right way. The fact that you don't even want to meet their legal team to hear what they want to say, shows you might not be totally upfront with your side of the story. So far all you have been doing is trying to garner public outcry to twist firstbanks arm to giving into your demands without giving us any real evidence other than a mail from them referring you to their legal department. You have also dragged anyone who dares speak in favor of firstbank as a trolls of evil masters even if what some of them has no sign of trolling. You are using the #bigbrandsdontkillsmallbrands hashtag,hoping it will catch on, go viral and force First bank to give into your demands, whether you are also in the wrong or not. Again sir,what you are doing is cyber bullying.
You know first Bank has an image to protect and you are using that against them.

From your story, this is what we know (I stand to be corrected)
a) You created a logo for first bank's 125th anniversary(Maybe it was put on only the iPad covers you made for them or maybe you also sent the logo on its own to them, that is still unclear atleast to me).
b) First bank is using said logo on all their promotional items.
c) First bank offered to pay you the same amount you were paid for a similar service in 2016.
d) You were not able to reach an agreement and firstbank referred you to their legal department.

What we do not know
a)Is there any clause in your original vendors contract that gives First bank the exclusive rights to all portions of any service you render to them, whether explicitly given or not?
b) Is there any clause in your vendors contract that puts a cap on the amount First bank would pay you for certain types of services and this clause has not been updated.
c) Did you send the logo to firstbank with a gentleman's understanding that they can go ahead and use the logo and at a later time,you would settle the naira value for the logo. Problem now is, they have gone ahead to use the logo on a lot of their promotional materials but what they think is a fair price for the logo is not agreeable to you?

These are things we are not privy to. First Bank might be a big bad evil empire but your online campaign to drag them without even trying to engage them in a place where they can defend themselves makes you as much of a bully as them sir. If you have tried the legal route and they use their might against you, and then you come online with facts and evidence as your last resort to get justice, we will understand.

So sir let call this what it is. It's not you trying to help others learn or trying to do a win win situation for all sides... This is a smear campaign.

Hmmm. Same narrative but different monikers.

Alcoron:
seun lalasticlala Mynd44 Why is this post still not on frontpage? But it's OK for it to be advertised (even on front page) before it gets people's attention. Because that's how I saw it.
You maybe considering, "Oh FirstBank may want to advertise with us (again) in the future." But this is a grave injustice that needs to get to more people's attention.
If it's worthy of Nairaland advertisement(front page advertisement), it is worthy of front page itself. If it's not worthy of Nairaland front page, then it shouldn't be worthy of Nairaland advertisement.
It shouldn't turn to a bidding war of who can offer more money between xtremecr8 and FirstBank.
Advertisement costs a lot of cash, and that's more drain on xtremecr8's pocket, that's already drained.

Thank you sir. We would actually love to be on the front page if the moderators and admin are convinced that we merit the front page.

jamesid29:
. The way you've been trying to put I and jide as one and same person is laughable sir. I'm sure you've checked my profile here to find the smoking gun and would have done the whole finger pointing thing if you found it.

You tend to forget sir, it was you who brought him and Folake's name up in your reply to me( In my original write up I never mentioned any names). When I addressed the fact that you were discrediting these two people without giving us concrete proofs of their evil doings, it was you who zoomed in on jide and later cameup with a one sided Twitter thread. And now that I went to Twitter myself to look at the full conversation and called you out for not presenting all sides of it, you are play the victim game and accuse me of defending only one person right of the bat. The more I look at the tactics you have been using with me sir, the more I begin to understand why you have been refusing to meet fbn's legal team.

But like I said, I'll leave you to it sir.

Hmmm.Please tell them that when people work hard for them like we did designing their 125th Anniversary logo and demands for payment in a decent manner that we have done after the attempt to make it look like giving us job to print means they have paid us, it is not defamation as being suggested by Jide , and James the new moniker now trolling us, sending trolls after us to bully us is ungodly and mischievous sir. Conscience is an open wound, only truth can heal it.

jamesid29:
Luckily Twitter allows one to read tweets without having an account. I was able to read the entire conversation that lead to the tweet you posted here. Why you left out the entire conversation intentionally is best known to you... Maybe it's to show a one sided narrative, maybe not. Either way, at this point ,those who believe you are fighting for justice will believe you and those who see you are fighting a personal vendetta will see it.

Despite all the name calling you've thrown at me for calling it as I see it, I still stand by my original conclusion. You are as much a bully as those you claim to be bullying you. You are trying to use public sentiment to force others to bow to your will, without owning up to where you also may be culpable.

Side note: From experience, the more a person adds God into conversations so as look goodp, the less I'm inclined to trust them.

It is well sir... I'll leave to it.

There's so much semblance in the words you and Jide Aboderin are using yet you have not disclosed your own identity like us. Your defence of only Aboderin among the many moniker trolls PR jobbers ,like Gbemisola, Posaze5, GhostPr etc raises and confirm our suspicion.
We don't hate you all.You are doing the target those who influence your customers job you got paid for. But we won't be distracted sir.
We can see people learn from our experiences and we encourage them not to abandon their creative talent because of this kind of attacks we are recieving.
They beat us, they still don't want us to cry. We cried out for help, they unleashed trolls on us.

Here's another report we recieved from those who have suffered a similar fate like us

jamesid29:
Where in his write-up did he bully you? How are you certain he is the one behind the other monikers you claim to be trolling you? Finally, I read the Twitter screenshot and what he asked there are legitimate questions not too different from the one I asked in the things we do not know section of my original write up. It's funny sir that you have intentionally not tried to engage any of these questions and many others like it that have been posted by other users.
So once again sir, the only reason you have singled him out and have been dragging him for several pages now is because of his family name and you have been using that against him (which is a form of bullying). I don't know who Mr jide is and I never even knew who owned punch newspaper until you made it known on this thread but what I do know is that, this world we are building, where someone can quickly run online, accuse people of wrong doing without concrete proof and have public sentiment become judge jury and executioner, is not a world I want to leave for my children.

All your remarks and attempt to hold brief for Mr Jide Aboderin won't stop us from exposing you and those different monikers used for bullying us sir.
Here are some of the screenshots among many where you Mr Jide Aboderin bullied and mocked us for demanding payment for our hardwork. We couldn't have found all these things out if we are dealing out of malice. It is God exposing those who hurt and are hurting us sir.
One problem with lying is that if you say or write one lie, when confronted with your lie, you will create more lies to cover the lie.
That's why there's no peace for the wicked. Create a zillion different monikers,conscience is an open wound ,only truth can heal it.
It's just being Grace of God all the way. We could not even pay or afford top bloggers,social media influencers, PR etc. The only thing we can afford to do is say the truth. We are trained and brought up to say the truth at all times.

jamesid29:
Clearly sir, you are on a war path to defame anyone who questions your narrative in anyway.

I just watched your interview with Sahara tv and thankfully there was some new information in it. You said you had your lawyer send them a couple of letters and in two instances they replied. That's great cos that shows a paper trail but throughout this thread, you never mentioned you engaged any lawyer and you have not showed any of those letters even till this moment and their reply(or atleast I missed where you did that).

Secondly you mentioned they made light of your design during negotiation but went ahead to use it widely. I believe that's a major reason why you have been dragging Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney through the mud. I don't know who she is and she might very well be a bad person but what she did is a classic Nigerian negotiation technique when trying to get a better deal and it's wrong to vilify her for that, especially since most of us are guilty of it. We tell the tomato seller " madam, shey na these small tomatoes wey full everywhere you won sell for 400 naira, abeg dis thing no pass 150" even if it's really not small , or we tell the mechanic " wetin you dey do sef wey u won collect 6k, no be ordinary to change oil and knack iron for dis place make the engine head correct" but of course if na just to knock iron we won't have gone to the mechanic in the first place. Making mrs Folake into the ice queen because she used a tactic that you most likely also use in your daily life to get a better deal is wrong.
You have similarly been dragging mr jide aboderin just because he spoke out in favor of firstbank and he is from an influential family. I don't know what he wrote on Twitter or any other media but I read what what he wrote here and in no way did he attack you or cross any lines, he was just defending a business partner just the same way others here have defended you, which is to be expected. You simply decided to single him out and have been dragging his name all through this thread for only one reason, his family name. Again sir, that is cyber bullying...

We all know it's no cake walk to run a business in Nigeria. I have been cheated, been threatened with court case ,been shortchanged by clients and I have learnt and still learning how to protect myself. In as much as I know how it feels to be shortchanged, I still don't want my children to grow up in a world where people are being crucified by mob action and public opinion without the need for actual evidence. A world Where the other side is not given a fair chance to defend itself and public sentiment is the judge, jury and executioner. It's as good as shouting thief in the market and rather than taking the person to the police station, we burn them right there on the spot.

It's true our justice system is broken but the court of public opinion is no replacement for it. The court of public opinion should be only a safe guard against powerful people influencing justice by putting millions of eyes on a case as it goes through the judicial system.

Dozens of times people have asked you to take them to court or at the very least meet with their legal team to hear what they have to say and even some suggested taking a recorder. The legal team will definitely not threaten you when they know they are been recorded. But so far, all you have been doing sir is to illicit an "us versus them" sentiment even with the latest video and to go after anyone who questions your narrative by calling them trolls and minions of fbn.


So once again sir, I'm just calling it as I see it. This is not you seeking for justice, this is a smear campaign. And sir, using God's name doesn't automatically give you the moral high ground.

Apologies for quoting this lengthy explanation.
We are small not unreasonable, arrogant and stubborn to facts. We had to listen to advice well before this campaign and explore the option of getting a lawyer to follow up with the big brand as far back as August last year so the idea to engage a lawyer had been suggested to us well before now but we chose to limit it especially when we saw the handwriting on the wall and when reminded if we have money for 15 years court case. We know we don't have money for 15 years court case so our resort to begging men and women of conscience in this land to wade in is legitimate and sincere.
If truly you have been cheated and still make excuses for the likes of Mr Jide Aboderin who trolled , bullied and perhaps still bullying us with a different moniker while you still claim not to have read his comments that we posted it's screenshot on this thread , then it's safe to guess you are holding brief for him sir.
We have maintained no annonymity, our face, name, contacts and facts have been put out there and we are happy that people can sincerely scrutinize us against the claims of anonymous monikers trolling us.
We are still not going outside the boundary of decency and so with a heart filled with gratitude to God and our helpers, we beg big brand First Bank not to kill us.
We just want to get paid for designing the 125th Anniversary logo of big brand First Bank.

We toiled to create that logo for big brand First Bank, we demanded to be paid but they didn't pay us and when we cried out, trolls like Jide Aboderin with relationship with Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and First Bank started bullying us online,different monikers, bloggers, Social media influencers were unleashed on us and called us names. We really suffered in their hands for demanding payment for our hardwork but God sent us helpers.

Thank you Saharareporters. We are grateful to you all. Your editors, crew and journalists who published our plea.

We begged Nigerians to help us beg big brand First Bank and Saharareporters gave us a listening ear. We didn't pay a dime to Saharareporters, they just listened to us, our cry and published the news and our interview.

God bless you all for helping us to get our voice heard. We knew we couldn't match Big brand First Bank resources for resources but you raised up helpers for us.

All we desire and wanted is to get paid for our hardwork of designing their 125th Year anniversary logo.
Despite all the trolls and bullying, we limited our campaign within limits of decency, we cried, prayed and fasted and God raised up helpers for us.
Even here on nairaland, we didn't beg the moderators to take us to front page because we just want to be heard, play fair and truthfully.

We still need your support to help us beg them to pay us. Big brands don't kill small brands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew

Niseed:
How much is First Bank Owing you for this logo?

Thank you sir. They have our bill but have refused to pay us. In the next few hours you will see our new video of our exclusive interview sir.
That's why we have remained grateful to all those who have listened to our cry and we give God the glory.
We couldn't have gone this far without God's support and that of men and women of conscience in this land.

jamesid29:
@OP, sir I have been following this topic from page one and watched the video you posted. From everything that has been said, I believe your motivation is not as nobles as you're trying to make it sound and what you are doing is cyber bullying. To be clear sir, I believe First bank dropped the ball by using your logo massively before finalizing pricing and payment and are trying to cover their exposure by going through legal but rather than going through the proper channels like issuing a cease and desist and officially suing them to court where all the facts of case can be examined and everyone can tender their own side of the story, you have brought the case online to try them in the court of public opinion where sentiments and he said she said is mostly all that matters.
Because of the power dynamics at play(them being a big company and you being a small company), you have essentially removed their ability to defend themselves because no matter what they do, if they try to engage you online, public sympathy will always be against them.

Sir with respect, your excuses for not going the legal route first don't really hold water. We have seen people with far less resources than you have stood up against bigger names. If you really want to standup for your right, do it the right way. The fact that you don't even want to meet their legal team to hear what they want to say, shows you might not be totally upfront with your side of the story. So far all you have been doing is trying to garner public outcry to twist firstbanks arm to giving into your demands without giving us any real evidence other than a mail from them referring you to their legal department. You have also dragged anyone who dares speak in favor of firstbank as a trolls of evil masters even if what some of them has no sign of trolling. You are using the #bigbrandsdontkillsmallbrands hashtag,hoping it will catch on, go viral and force First bank to give into your demands, whether you are also in the wrong or not. Again sir,what you are doing is cyber bullying.
You know first Bank has an image to protect and you are using that against them.

From your story, this is what we know (I stand to be corrected)
a) You created a logo for first bank's 125th anniversary(Maybe it was put on only the iPad covers you made for them or maybe you also sent the logo on its own to them, that is still unclear atleast to me).
b) First bank is using said logo on all their promotional items.
c) First bank offered to pay you the same amount you were paid for a similar service in 2016.
d) You were not able to reach an agreement and firstbank referred you to their legal department.

What we do not know
a)Is there any clause in your original vendors contract that gives First bank the exclusive rights to all portions of any service you render to them, whether explicitly given or not?
b) Is there any clause in your vendors contract that puts a cap on the amount First bank would pay you for certain types of services and this clause has not been updated.
c) Did you send the logo to firstbank with a gentleman's understanding that they can go ahead and use the logo and at a later time,you would settle the naira value for the logo. Problem now is, they have gone ahead to use the logo on a lot of their promotional materials but what they think is a fair price for the logo is not agreeable to you?

These are things we are not privy to. First Bank might be a big bad evil empire but your online campaign to drag them without even trying to engage them in a place where they can defend themselves makes you as much of a bully as them sir. If you have tried the legal route and they use their might against you, and then you come online with facts and evidence as your last resort to get justice, we will understand.

So sir let call this what it is. It's not you trying to help others learn or trying to do a win win situation for all sides... This is a smear campaign.

This is obviously the same script albeit said without the initial obtrusiveness of the comrade professional PR agents doing the bullying as trolls and using different monikers and perhaps now this moniker now because it's the same thing being said sir. The only thing that keeps changing are the monikers sir,especially having realized the futility in bullying us and the Grace of God to expose them all right from Mr Jide Aboderin and others.
Against the advice we have recieved in private and public,we wonn't use spinners, PR agents,bloggers,social media influencers and all because we want to hold ourselves to public scrutiny and transparency.We don't lie, unlike you and the faceless trolls that were unleashed on us after exposing the relationship between
Jide Aboderin and Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney, we have a face, name, verifiable contact to our campaign and if you want to find out sir, please
ask them, the big brand First Bank, to provide evidence that we have been paid or if we have been paid for designing the logo of big brand First Bank for its 125th Year anniversary. That is the evidence you need to demand from the sponsors of the trolls.
We have never gone beyond a demand for a legitimate pay so we will continue to beg men and women of conscience in this land to wade in and help us beg them to pay us.It is a legitimate demand so we won't die from hunger.
We will not be goaded into litigation because of the reality on ground except if you want to raise doubts about our citizenship as Nigerians too sir.
We will remain resolute and grateful to many others who are heeding our call to speak up if you have been cheated like us too. The big brand First Bank is still using this same logo, didn't pay us and have not provided evidence that we have been paid.
Big brands don't kill small brands, they nurture them. They don't pay people to troll and bully small brands online.

MZrapper:
May God punish Firstbank for cheating these innocent people and even foolishly creating new monikers to change the narratives.

I am done with that useless bank.

Bloody cheaters.

Thank you ma. We know that there are still men and women of conscience in this land and we are grateful to God and you all for standing by us during this time.
May you and any member of your family not go through what we have suffered in the hands of these people just for requesting them to pay us for a job we did with all our heart and might. They are very cunny in their dealings and they behave like people with a dead conscience.Just imagine the extent they could go just to cheat us.

AbiBuruji722:
Dear Extreme creation, sorry for this occurrence. Be reminded that, all of them even d GMD might be aware of this. The only person you can trust in FBN is Mrs Awosika, I might be wrong, have you noticed that you won't see the photograph of the MD in any banking hall. That is a signal.
God will fight for you

Amen. Thank you sir.

We worked hard, toiled day and night to produce First Bank's 125th Year Anniversary logo, they didn't pay us,we demanded to be paid for our hardwork and instead of paying us,they are grandstanding while still using the product of our sweat and labour , now trolls and people who work for them like Mr Jide Aboderin, a silverspoon and grandson of the late Punch newspaper founder, are bullying us online.
We plead with you all to come to our aid. Please don't allow big brand First Bank to kill us.
We are small brand but not unreasonable.
We need you all men and women of conscience in this land to wade in and help us beg Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and her other top management members of big brand First Bank to pay us. Please don't allow them to kill us.
They still used our logo we created for them today. They're doing these things because they're a big brand.That is the same logo we created displayed over their corporate headquarters building in Marina,Lagos.
Please don't allow them to kill our creativity and Nigeria's creativity industry.