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Ghostpr:You are the individual behind the multiple monikers sir. You all write alike including Posaze5 and obviously doing same thing advertised and published on your website; "target those who influence your customers,connect with major social media influencers, build relationships with top bloggers etc ".Hmmm,they don't want to pay us for our legitimate hardwork but people like you enjoy cosy relationship with them and get paid to stand truth on its head. Since you all got registered on nairaland, this thread is the only one you all have ever posted on. We will not engage in indecency because we are not on a smear campaign against First Bank. Use your good office and PR connection with the top management to tell them to pay us instead of this online bullying. This online bullying won't work sir. Everyone of you doing this dirty job are putting your future in jeopardy because if you sow injustice or support injustice, you will reap injustice in your life. The devil will make sure you use the money they paid you to treat one setback like sickness or the other. So don't allow them destroy your life. Use your PR connection as a force for good. Here's your profile and the job you do for organization. Sending trolls after us won't work sir.We have been severally told to hire spinners like you but we insisted against that route because we don't lie, cheat or spin the truth like you and your clients do. Sadly,your job description is immoral , you get paid to lie and fight the truth and call it PR Job. You are sowing in the wind and will reap disaster up on disaster in your life if you don't stop this kind of job. Tell them to pay us for our hardwork.We don't deserve to be killed by big brand First Bank because we did a job for them. They should please pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo and stop wasting resources on trolls bullying us online.
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They want to kill us because we are a small brand. Please we need all your help and support as men and women of conscience in this land to wade in. We gave our best to that design and big brand First Bank has not paid us a dime. Our business has been severely affected negatively because we have not been paid a dime for designing the logo of big brand First Bank for its 125th Year anniversary logo. All effort to make them pay us has been met with one delay tactics or the other before we cried out now. Their next game is to send trolls after us to bully us online. We just want to be paid for our hardwork so we won't close job and be able to pay our employees whose families are suffering.
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We do not deserve to be treated this way after all the Labour and resources we put in. They have time and resources to influence trolls to come after us and cyber-bully us but can't even edit their information on the internet that states that they are founded in 1979.We hope they will rectify this. We are not your enemy First Bank so we don't deserve this kind of ill treatment.We are small but not unreasonable. We just want to get paid for our legitimate hardwork of designing the logo of your 125th Year anniversary.
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They're sending trolls after us to change the narrative from a simple question of Did you pay xtremecr8 for designing the logo of your 125th Year anniversary logo? Big brands don't kill small brands.
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Like we have repeatedly maintained, we will keep our campaign within decency and will not sponsor trolls or pay influencers have adviced. We are Christians in business and believe we have a God of justice on our side. We gave our best to First Bank to create that logo and deserve to be paid. Paying trolls to bully us online or distract us will not deter us. The trolls are from the same people and if by their profile, if they are not promoting sales of large social media accounts on Instagram and So, they strangely almost all opened their account on nairaland on same day of 06 February 2020 just about same time we started our campaign begging men and women of conscience in this land to wade in and help us beg the powers that be like Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney at Firstbank to pay us. We have the evidence that those trolling and attacking us has a relationship and some actually work at First Bank like Jide Aboderin. They are bullying us even after denying us of our legitimate pay after designing their 125th Year anniversary logo.
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OWOJELA:Dear Mr OWOJELA, thank you for trolling us sir. They can't pay us but can send trolls after us. There is no peace to the unjust. Folake Ani-Mumuney and FBN didn't say anything about evidence, what they thought will work was that they had given us job to print IPad covers and so we should not be paid for our hardwork designing their 125th Year anniversary logo. You will reap what you sow in life sir. We are not the bully,we are the victim,so please tell your sponsors to provide proof that they paid us and why we should not be paid for our hardwork. Big brands don't kill small brands. Our claim has a face,name,contact,hard-core proofs to our campaign and our plea to well meaning Nigerians to prevail on FBN to pay us is legitimate. We don't want to proof anything, all we want to do is get paid for our hardwork. Until the big masquerade FBN and Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney remove the masks, we will not bother to go into the technicality on the social media. We are not on a smear campaign but an appeal to people with conscience in this land to wade in. No amount of trolls will stop us. We will keep our campaign within decency and not send trolls or influencers after Firstbank even though we have been advised to do so. We believe that those founders of FBN didn't build the brand by cheating and killing small brands. It is out of respect for that that we will keep our campaign to respect their legacy. The current managemant at firstbank is behind this attempt to muscle us out and kills us as small brand by not paying us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo
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First Bank is still using the logo we created for them for their 125th Anniversary and yet to pay us. Below is a press release on their letter head just released this afternoon. This is exactly what we have been pleading about. Things can't continue like this in this land. We worked hard to create that logo and have not been paid a dime. Big brand,first bank wants to kill a small brand like us by using our intellectual property and not paying us a dime. We call on men and women of conscience in this land to wade in and tell big brand First Bank to pay us. EFCC should please come to our aid. A labourer is worthy of his wages so says the Holy Book. They are cheating us and want to get away with it
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Tbillz:Dear Mr Tbillz, thank you for trolling us sir just like Mr Jide Aboderin and countless other trolls bullying us online for demanding payment for our hardwork. For the sake of many small brands out there and justice to small brands like us, we will continue on our campaign to get paid for creating the FBN125th Anniversary logo. We won't be distracted. Please tell them and ask them a very simple moral and ethical question: Did First Bank pay xtremecr8 for designing the logo before going ahead to use it and still using it? Is it right not to pay us and still send trolls after us online? What have we done to First Bank and Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney to deserve this kind of ill treatment from them? Is this done anywhere in the world? Big brands don't kill small brands, they nurture them sir. Be careful when you support this kind of injustice FIRST Bank has done to us because they pay your billz so you won't reap the kind of injustice done to us by first bank.
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No amount of trolls including Jide Aboderin who work with Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney,sent after us will kill the truth.We will remain resolute until we get justice. Like Uthman Dan Fodio said "conscience is an open wound, only truth can heal it" If First Bank is owing you salaries for this long we are owed for creating their 125th Anniversary logo, you won't serve as trolls for First Bank. Certainly, you will be served the same tea in life the bitter tea we got served by Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and First Bank. We laboured very hard to create that logo and have not been paid. The attempt to decieve themselves that printing few iPad covers our bill for creating their 125th Anniversary logo is ungodly and pure treachery. We deserve to get paid for designing the logo and we call on people with good conscience in this land wade in and beg FIRST bank to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo. We won't stop demanding for our payment even if millions of trolls are paid and sent after us to bully us online.
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Niseed:Sir, even if it's N100 that we demanded,(in reality, we incurred more tha 6-digit cost in naira to eventually meet the very high standard demanded by big brand FBN) is that a sufficient reason not to pay us? Is it that first bank doesn't have money to pay for such an important milestone as 125 year anniversary logo? Is this how,as a nation, we want to develop,grow and support the creative industry? We created the logo,they found it irresistible,accepted it,used and still using it but they should not pay us? The simple question remains: Did first bank pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo? NO!Not even a dime. And we should keep quiet and die in silence or play along with her tactics? Is it about the money? Yes, because we really worked hard to create that logo and we deserve to get paid for it. First Bank beat us as a small brand and now still asking us not to cry by sending trolls after us to bully us online. Why is it so difficult to ask first bank if it had paid us or is it that we should not be paid for our hardwork creating that logo? |
Scout60:Darkness can only triump over light only in the interim. The light of truth will triump eventually. Please tell your favoured FBN management to pay us for designing the bank's 125th Anniversary logo sir.It is the right thing to do. Even the Christian Holy book, The Holy Bible, says "a labourer is worthy of his wage". Thank God that there are still men and women of good conscience in this land. We are grateful to them all for their support and prayers. We will not go to court,at least for now, for the reasons we have already explained sir. Luckily, no crime is statute barred but we will toe the path of decency and transparency until reason prevails. No where in the world will this happen and this is completely unacceptable. They took our work and didn't pay us. |
billante:We are not faceless people. We are upright and God fearing people and organization. We want to get paid for our sweat and labour without incurring extra pain and cost to plead with people to help us beg FBN to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo . If that's what is wrong, then we are right sir.We are small brand but not unreasonable. We know FBN has enough resources to keep trolls after us.We are the victim and doesn't deserve to be treated like this by big brand First Bank. We would have met with any unit or anybody if our logo had not being used and being used. They brought in that angle when we demanded for our pay, Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney had given us sufficient reason to doubt their sincerity by telling their management that they had given us jobs to do. What job? Print few copies of iPad covers! Going to legal is out of it if you see her response and it really matches our suspicion that they are playing games. They obviously want to goad us into litigation and through protracted court case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPpfv4FUMU |
We gave all our best to deliver that logo, they didn't pay us a dime and wants to get away with it because we're a small brand. Since this campaign started, we have exchanged notes with other small brands and it's like it is like an industry practice here in Nigeria where big brand take your IP and tell you to go to court. It is a serious organization moral deficit in First Bank if the top decision makers have seen nothing wrong in not paying us a dime for all our hardwork yet continued using our logo we created for them and using trolls like Mr Aboderin to bully us online. We gave our all but didn't see this coming and we sincerely feel let down. We don't deserve this kind of ill treatment from FBN.
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For the impartial and less discerning, before you take the advice 'go see legal',' apologise so you can get paid' remarks serious, be aware that these people writing it here are mostly people working for FBN and instead of paying us they are trolling us.They are not sincere and sadly,xtremecr8 is their victim.We have been begging them to pay us but they are bent on robbing us of what's due for us. In their unjust mind,their excuse for FBN for using our design for their 125th Anniversary logo and not paying us is because we didn't see legal or purportedly we have no contract. Is that reason why they took all our hardwork and didn't pay us a dime? All that hardwork? FBN believe we deserve no pay and we should be tossed around? Where else is that done in the world?For budding entrepreneurs out there, watch out for people like them and FBN and deal cautiously with them. Their stock in trade is to take away from you and kill your brand.Run!!! They have conveniently ignored truth and justice because of their affiliation with first bank and particularly Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney.They will reap the evil deeds they are sowing. For real entrepreneurs who see their pains and struggle in our present predicament caused by a big brand, First Bank, we thank you for standing with us. There will be no peace for the wicked and unjust.
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Despite our sincerity and commitment to limit our campaign within the boundaries of decency for reason to prevail , it is so sad to know that people who work for First Bank and under Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney like Jide Aboderin, grandson of the late Chief Aboderin, the founder of The Punch newspaper, have been trolling xtremecr8 on both nairaland and Twitter. We won't be distracted. They will reap injustice someday too unless they change. We worked hard and toiled day and night to produce this logo for First Bank and we deserve our pay. Sending trolls after us to persuade and/or insult us is very disappointing and a new low for a big brand like FBN in our estimation.
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JideAboderin:Dear Mr Jide Aboderin, we didn't get the job because of our name or political connection. Without sounding immodest but with gratitude to God who we serve,we got it because we're amazingly blessed by God with such talent a big brand like FBN could not resist. We are proud of our humble background because we are those the Yoruba call "Atapatadide' (those with humble beginning) and perhaps if we have an uncle or relative who is an elderstatesman, no doubt, things would have been different. They want to cheat us and get away with it and we call on people like you to help beg them to pay us. Going by the political depth of big brand First Bank where the children of the high and mighty from families like the Adewusis( of former Inspector General of Police, eminent elderstatesman,Pa Sunday Adewusi, former Lagos commissioner etc)Aboderins(owner of Nigeria's leading newspaper,The Punch),command greater influence than talented small brands like us,We know we are like outsiders. Printing like few hundreds of iPad cover was the decoy they wanted to use to rob us of our IP and use as A substitute for paying us for the 125th Anniversary logo we designed for them. Folake Ani-Mumuney and top managers of FBN from very privileged family background will most unlikely try this game of denying us our pay with an Aboderin or an Adewusi sir. We have no doubt that you are from the popular and very successful Aboderin family that owns The Punch and they won't have tried any funny games with you a silverspoon of Aboderin that has the Punch behind you hence they treated you specially sir. Here is a Jide Aboderin that's most probably you in your family newspaper and your profile suggests that you must have worked under Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney who treated us badly and you and your partner, an Adewusi (another silverspoon) now patronize the bank by organizing corporate events for them sir. https://punchng.com/financial-sector-professionals-hangout-in-lagos/
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And due to your support and pressure, they took time out of their very busy schedule to reply a small brand like us. Here is the reply we got from the MD of First Bank, Mr Adeduntan. While we appreciate his feedback,please kindly help us ask him, Dear Mr Adeduntan, Which part is "manifestly untrue" sir? 1.That xtremecr8 designed your First Bank 125th Anniversary logo. Or 2. Xtremecr8 has not been paid a dime for designing your 125th Year anniversary logo. Or 3. Your organisation,First bank, has used and still using the same logo we designed yet has not paid us a dime for designing this logo and you are still grandstanding Or 4. We the small brand will die if a big brand like FBN could take all our hardwork and refuse to pay us.
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We just got reliably informed by one of those equally unhappy about the way the big brand First Bank treated us. First Bank (UK) Limited is equally using the logo we worked hard to design for FBN125th Anniversary celebrations yet we have not been paid a dime.
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Lucky4real28:Thank you for the feedback sir.Please don't allow any brand or individual intimidate you and learn from our experience as a small organisation that is probably more experienced than you on this issue at hand sir. You will agree with us after watching this video https://www.instagram.com/tv/B8efKBsF27l/?igshid=1092xtnvmcfpm we already shared here that you don't understand the issue sir. We have equally stated that we are a small brand but not unreasonable. We don't cut corners or indulge in unethical practices and have repeatedly stated our reasons for this campaign. Only true entrepreneurs can connect to our story, they see their struggle in our predicament and we are grateful to them for their encouragement and support. We are proud of our professional ethos largely influenced by our faith as Christians. paragon40:We assure you that we have not stated anything out of malice. There's nothing defamatory in demanding payment for your hardwork used by a big brand that hasn't paid you for it so don't allow anyone confuse or intimidate you. We are seriously constrained to take this route and won't be intimidated. They, big brand First Bank used our intellectual property and didn't pay us a dime. We have the right to demand payment for our hardwork so we won't die of hunger. Eberechi24:We don't want to be stubborn or daring. We just want to get paid for designing the 125th Anniversary logo of big brand First Bank we designed. As we type here, they are still using it even through 2019, yet we have not been paid a dime. That's ungodly, immoral, unethical and not allowed anywhere in the world.We don't believe it is really the bank but the people currently charged with taking decisions on behalf of the first bank. Even in real life, please don't support evil or sit on the fence in the face of any form of injustice. Today it's xtremecr8, tomorrow it may be you that may be so badly treated by big brand First Bank. |
adonainana:Thank you sir for your candid advice and prayers. We just want to do things differently because we have the faith that this land still has men and women of conscience who can see the reason in our plea.
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commodore007:God bless you Sir! You really understand their game and we wish we knew better than we now know. Even to pay the benefits of one of their departed employee has been reminders upon reminder that gathers dust like the bureaucracy of an inefficient public service and the poor widow is in so much financial difficulty. This is their unit charged with the responsibility to attend to the family of those workers who served First bank diligently and had passed on let alone we that they see as if they are even doing a favour by riding roughshod on us. To reclaim her husband's benefits,the poor old widow has been on it for years yet they will keep posting her, is it now us they already dealt with they won't fly us a kite to go visit legal as if the legal was not there when the bank infringed on our IP. Is it not the legal unit that should give it's approval to use of an IP to ensure that there is clear evidence that there is a legitimate right to use the logo? It's so sad how First Bank got to this unenviable state. We will not rest until justice is served. They treated us badly but we will keep our protest within the breadth of decency to protect the legacy of those founders of the bank who toiled to build the brand some of their current people now want to destroy.
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Ikjosh04:At the bolded,Really? We actually came here to let people know about our horrible experience, encourage them to speak up so we can exchange notes, solicit the help of well meaning men and women of conscience in this land to help us beg first bank to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary. Thank you for your advice sir. We actually don't hate first bank. Our objective is already yielding results and there will soon be more small brands speaking up. We won't rest until men and women of conscience in this land wade in. We won't meet with their legal unit because we no longer trust the judgement of Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney who referred our request for payment to the legal unit after the ploy to fool us with a job to print about 100 ipad covers failed.We have course to reasonably suspect that the legal unit works hand in glove with her since they didn't see qualms in the corporate infringement and advice her against such decision she led the bank into. They seem to all be profiting actively from such a system that robs small brands of their sweat and labour by going ahead to use the logo without paying us and still want to breathe down our necks. We should actually be demanding an apology From them as well as our due payment. We will meet with a higher authority that may include the top management but not that unit. Our goals for this campaign is clearly not against the bank but these powerful clique of decision making people behind this that made a big brand like FBN to a point it wants to kill a small brand like us. Our campaign is a noble one in the face of God and man. We laboured and invested a lot to design their 125th Anniversary logo, we have not been paid a dime for it. We are grateful to God and those helping us so far to make reason prevail as we are already making some little progress. We are grateful to you all.
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losprince:Thank you sir. We are morally and legally right to demand payment for our hardwork. It's morally wrong and illegal to use people's intellectual property and still grandstand. Our campaign will go on to ensure other small brands learn from our experience and ensure First Bank pays. We will meet with their accounts and top management if they eventually realise how bad they have behaved by using our work and not paying us. They have used it and still using it yet has not paid us a dime. It is where we are as a nation of people who don't encourage others to do the RIGHT thing. We are not scared of speaking up. You used our IP First Bank,pay us. Others who have had similar experience, please speak up and join our campaign to stop the ill treatment of small brands by big brands.
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IceColdVeins:I sincerely don't think we have a challenge in that area and that is not the issue sir. The issue is that we are not paid for a logo we designed for their 125th Anniversary logo and it has been used and is being used. Many small brands have suffered this same experience from these big brands and has to stop. We have received so many messages from more people with this similar problem but too scared to speak up and we just chose to speak up. We have been at this for months on this issue. How are we expected to pay our own bills? Why use our logo for months and not pay us? Is that done anywhere in this world? What manner of country watch and allow the talents from its citizens be brazenly stolen and the thief goes away? We have seen their paid hands attempt to shift the issue away from main issue sir. We know it won't be easy like we have been forewarned. We will maintain our ground that the moment they started using our logo, they become liable.We won't stop until we are paid and the system punish people like the FBN officials who infringed on our IP and stood against us getting paid for our Labour. The national assembly will eventually wade into this issue in order to probe this issue of how big brands treat small indigenous brands. |
AngryIgboMan:God bless you sir. The attempt to reduce it to "go see the legal " says much about how long injustice committed against small brands has been permitted and taken as normal. The legal angle was an afterthought and clearly ought to be before the logo was used if it wasn't an attempt to intimidate us. We are small but not unreasonable. This is a pattern to intimidate and we will not be intimidated. They won't do this to international brands they spend billions to get same services available locally. Did they refer CNN to their legal unit to pay CNN when they used our designed logo on their ads that ran on international media? We don't have business with their legal unit after they used our design. Once they had used our design and schemed that paying for about 100 ipad covers they ordered us to print would fool us as the compensation, referring to legal was just to dig in more delays and technicality so we won't be paid. We have equally refused to sign any confidentiality form they are imposing on their vendors in the wake of our demand that we get paid. Small brands are seriously been humiliated and killed by these Nigerian big brands and we need the support of everyone including government to put a stop to it before they kill our creative industry completely. If Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney had requested us to see legal before our design for their 125th Anniversary logo was used, we would gladly do so. Referring us to legal unit while they are using our design and not paying us is how they want to kill us. We deserve our pay and won't stop begging well meaning Nigerians to prevail on big brand First bank not to kill us.
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Studio247:Thank you sir. It really hurts we must admit. You even feel as if you should leave this country and take your craft and natural talent elsewhere. |
glowskillz:Hmmm. If you have sincerely gone through our comments without any motive to judge us, you would agree with us that we have stated and disclosed that we have an official engagement as a vendor for them. If you're a vendor with first bank and had read even other past experiences that suddenly came out in the course of our plea, you will understand how small brands are treated by this big brands. We have not broken any law of God and/or man by demanding pay for legitimate work we gave our best to do and delivered.Taking us through extra stress after doing a great job was the part we didn't see coming. We completely agree that we should have done more due diligence not only on FIRST Bank but background check on the character and temperament of their rep Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney. We are the victim here and urge small businesses to learn from our experience. We have the right to call on well meaning individuals and organisations to help us beg FIRST bank to pay us, we will never go this extra mile if we are dubious or have things to hide. There's no rocket science in this, you have a need, we met it to your satisfaction that you used it, paying us shouldn't be a big deal just the way we would not have been pained if they didn't use the logo we design. We are not taking the legal route at least for now Let's see if we really don't have men and women of conscience in this land. Let's see if this woman can't be taken up on how badly she played us as a representative of FBN. To all small brands out there, speak up against injustice against your interest by any big brand. |
Their legal department did their best to frustrate us into making a false move that would have cost us dearly. The plan was to goad us into pursuing full fledged litigation - their calculation was that the matter would be tied up in court for years and the customer's money would remain in their vaults. The system is rigged in their favour that way.