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linaluv:
are there no muslims to defend islam in this argument?

Is the op not cutting hi own foot

how could "mr marry one wife" accuse "Mr Marry four wives" of sexually inactive.

Is it not stupid of op to open this thread

meixili:
My proposition regarding this debate InshAllah

1. Stay on topic. Any sources , quotes etc. Must be shown to have a direct correlation to the topic @ hand.

2. Avoid Generalizations and Hyperbole

We often resort to generalizing and exaggerating when we don’t have enough information to make a strong case for something. Some of us do it out of habit. Some of us do it when we are angry. Whenever you catch yourself using extreme labels or making broad statements, stop to check that there’s a verifiable source behind the claim.

It may be difficult to quantify your personal experiences or opinions with facts and sources. That’s okay. Do not present opinions as though they are facts.

3.Always Assume You Are Addressing a Group with Mixed Religions

Some of us are so invested in our own religion and social values, we forget that the world is full of differing opinions. Sometimes we believe in a religion so earnestly, we assume that all other rational people must also feel the same way. This is a big mistake—especially in a an online discussion forum.

Some views are deeply ingrained and very passionately defended. Before you start to speak (or type) in bold, black-and-white terms, remember that you might be addressing someone who disagrees with your opinion. This shouldn’t prevent you from sharing your thoughts, but it should give you pause and dissuade you from using dismissive, disrespectful language.

4. Give Reasons to Support Your Opinions

5.Argue Issues, Not Personal Scores

When a question is asked , the one answering should have time to formulate an answer, it may not come immediately.

Questions MUST be clear and concise, and 1 @ a time.

Very nice.

you can see that the op is already going out of track

unphilaz:
This thread is created to get some understanding from yazak from this thread...

https://www.nairaland.com/2903407/churches-turned-into-mosques/2#42708930

i ask yazak this question


After he obliged me, i modified the question thus




And i agree by his rules which was fair enough



So yazak, the above bolded is my question for you...

Please can you abide by rule 1?

So take one topic at a time and let us start with it

Peace on followers of righteous path

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annunaki2:
Yazach can I ask my own small kweshun as well?

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You even laugh at the end because you know you can never ever make sense

unphilaz:


Yazach ... its really nice but i think you are mistaken me for another dude... am not an ATHIEST but Son of God... and i for one believe that allah is a god ...even as Paul believe same....

now you can ask your question but on the following conditions
1- we stay on one topic at a time, this will prevent dodging tactics that some Christians use

2- To avoid copy paste and lengthy sentences, let us limit our response to 10 lines at a time

3- You will not abuse whom I hold esteem and vice versa

you can as well add your own rules

you can also create another thread to avoid disturbances

Peace on the follower of guidance

unphilaz:
Ok lets do it this way... let me open a thread to ask my question... then after you ask yours... are you game?

I will debate with you on condition that you will prove to me that an atheist will argue reasonably by proving 2 things:

1- prove to me that your phone is existing without a maker

unphilaz:
I asked for clarification by asking a question, you claimed i misquoted... now am further adding questions for you to clarify me and you say the above?
Do you want to take it up or not?

I don't believe any atheist can ever argue reasonably?

But if you can prove 2 things to me I will debate with you:

1- Prove to me that your phone just exist

guru1234:
The question is will this new king now rule with the sharia of ALLAH or with thier existing customs? Because rulling by other than what ALLAH legislate is kufr. My advice to him is to dissasociate himsef from their KUFR.

Does that mean Buhari is also not left out or what are you insinuating?

unphilaz:
ok... here we go...

First of all WHAT Allah has SPOKEN in the KORAN, CANNOT be abrogated by NO ONE?

Secondly, YOU agree that Mohammed and ALL muslims are servants/SLAVE of ALLAH!

answer the above then we will continue... make your answers in italics. Thank you.

Please what are you continuing?

The middle one is Annunaki because he is too arrogant
The one in the right must be truthman2012
The one in the left must be true2god

unphilaz:
Promise10 are you convince to conbert now? or you wan disect the above...

But yazak me i wan ask one question ... Is mohammed inevitably now in hell fire as decreed by his master allahh and it cannot be abrogated?

Did you miquote anything or can you explain yourself better? Please give us evidence

Annunaki:
And so His companions penned down the lies on his behalf.

But remember; we are not talking about bible here

promise10:
Please all muslim, I ask for one thing and if you answer it correctly with a sensible proof of salvation, I will honestly leave christianity for islam.
The question is "what are the proofs that Mohammed came from God?"

All perfect praise be to Allah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah, and that Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) is His slave and Messenger.

The signs that prove the prophecy of Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) are numerous. Many books have been written to enumerate them and thoroughly discuss them. We would like to mention some of these signs as reported by Muslim scholars and which prove that Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) was a real Prophet including:

- First, his good biography and high morals as well as the noble qualities that distinguished him. He was known before becoming a Prophet as a truthful and honest person, although the community where he lived was a society of ignorance. This was, perhaps, the most important sign of his prophecy. He was not known to have ever lied on people. So, why should he lie on be half of the Lord by claiming that he was a Prophet, if he was not a real Prophet?

- Second, the powers and triumphs Allah gave him and the spread of the religion he preached, as well as the triumph of this religion over all existing religions in a short period of time. Had he been a liar, Allah would have humiliated and destroyed him as He did with those before him who falsely claimed Prophethood.

- Third, the miracles Allah gave him as supporting evidence were beyond the ability of human beings and were beyond range of natural phenomena. The moon split for him, water gushed from his fingers, food became more abundant in his hands, and similar phenomena were authentically reported and happened in a way that could not be denied.

- Fourth, the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention ) was backed by the greatest miracle which is the Quran. In fact, Quran was a challenge and remains a challenge for Arabs who were known to be good poets and eloquent speakers. Allah challenged them to write a single Surah (chapter) that would be similar to that of Quran, but the Arabs were unable to do so. Indeed, the challenge still endures, none of the Arabs throughout history - since the revelation of the Quran - was able to make anything that was even similar to it. No doubt that the Quran has been preserved intact until it came to us. Groups of people memorized it including children, adults, males and females. So generations brought the Quran to generations until it reached us as it was revealed 14 centuries ago. Hence, the Quran remains intact protected from distortion or alteration. Nothing has been added to it, nor taken from it. Quran is full of scientific facts that were verified only in these times of scientific investigation. No doubt that Muhammad who was illiterate would not have possessed this knowledge 14 centuries ago. Doesn't this prove the authenticity of the Quran and that it is the Word of the Creator of the Universe who knows all its secrets?

- Fifth, the things from the unseen that he (the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allah exalt his mention )) informed us about. Some of them occurred during his life time. Others happened later. Some of these things happened to the Prophets, may Allah exalt their mention, who preceded him and some are still to occur. He also informed about the signs of The Day of Judgment, some of which had already been seen such as widespread killings and genocide, adultery and fornication and the consumption of the alcohol, outnumbering of males by females and the increased number of earthquakes, and afflictions,… etc.

- Sixth, the testimony of some of the people of the Book that he was a true Prophet. Some of them believed in him like 'Abdullah Ibn Salam may Allah be pleased with him who was a Jew as well as Negus (king of Abyssinia) who was a Christian. Some of the people of the Book certified that he was a Prophet from Allah but refused to follow him like Huyayy Ibn Akhtab.

The above are some of the signs that prove his Prophethood and the authenticity of his revelations. We would like the questioner to visit some of the Islamic centers in her area, and hopefully, they will guide her to some useful references in the matter.

Allah Knows best.

Annunaki:
The 'proof' is that mohamed claimed to come from God and he wrote it in the quoran.

But it is a glaring fact that he can not write nor read

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seggzz:


Is this all you have to defend your points? Muslims, is this guy your representative? He lacks constructive criticism. Is this how your alfa taught you? I beg make una bring better person come jare. Giving me smileys Hmmm, see who is defending Muslims.

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seggzz:
I was once a Muslim but left because of people like you who lack knowledge and other reasons. People like you who can't read between the lines. I realized people like you don't read Quran. I have dealt with people like you in most forums I found myself. You can't even differentiate among facts, arguments and insults from your statements. You are only covering the shame of your religion under the umbrella of insults. Prove to me that those points are not true. Come out and give me facts!!! Don't give me insults!!! You are not even good at insulting people. Show me you have something up there. Let me know that your skull is not full with ewedu and amala or insults. OK, convince me to join your religion by answering the posted questions logically.

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seggzz:
Check my post and others of my writing, do they look like copy and paste?

Why would a right thinking Nigerian think that a writeup that doesn't support his claim is copy and paste. Check my posts on http://seggzz2005..com.ng. My last topics on nairaland and it's comments are not copy and paste my brother.
www.nairaland.com/2897984/rape-allowed-islam-during-times

I have the Quran and Bible to make researches on. I have a book, 'comparative criticism and facts on religion' by Segun(myself). Although you need other sources like books, webs, instinct, self findings, oral sources and host of other research manuals you can lay your hands on. You could pm me if you want religion research methodologies.


Every ritualist is not a billionaires tantamount to every writeup is not 'copy and paste' as you said.


I still want people to reason and question those points for verification.

Note, most researches are complements of others and textbooks are combination of references..... You need to wake up!!!

If at the end of your research, you could still raise that points, it means you are either a day old researcher or fanatics or hypocrite

But why is it that these stupid and 419s called pastors have never for once see good except bad things

Instead of telling us this, why won't they avert the bad things since they claim to be prophet.

Stupid idiots

This is my own prophesy:

ALL PASTORS WITH PROPHECIES WILL PERISH THIS YEAR

seggzz:
Why would a right thinking people rush to Islam where they practice the following ;

1. Allah command Muslims not to have non believers as friends and also to kill them if they see them. Quran 4:89

2. Why will a just God like Allah command promiscuous women to be imprisoned until they die? Is it not wickedness?
"Women who are guilty of lewdness.... confined them to the houses until death " Quran 4:19.


3.Why will Allah purposely put confusion in His Holy Book? Check the following contradiction in the Quran
Will Allah forgive anyone for anything?
A. YES, Allah will forgive those who seek pardon Quran 4:110,Quran 39:153
B. NO, there are some things and some people that he will never forgive Quran 4:48;4:116;4:137,Quran 9:80

4. Why will Allah command slave rape?

5. Why on earth would Allah says that you should FIGHT for him and HE would reward them with VIRGINS ? Quran 4:77. I know Allah is omnipotent, Why can't he fight for HIMSELF? AND MANY MORE.....

please which site did you copy it from?

It is more than ebola virus to copy paste without thorough research

Rilwayne001:
Mumu, answer his question.

abi lost sheep of Nigeria

I have told this Christians (truthman2012, Annunaki, true2god and their mummy aka perishbookadict) times without number; to stop their fruitless effort and embrace Islam before it is too late

Annunaki:
I am not a muslim.

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seniormallam:
latest bokoharam in town, if you want to kill or destroy, that is not acceptable in christianity, those people want to start rubbish so they had to go the right place that allows that, thank you brothers for leaving Christianity in peace sorry bombing, killing, raping, stealing is not allowed and you cant find a single verse that justify that, thank you once again for leaving in peace,

all note: christian converted to islam, no bloodshed but if the reverse had been the case, trust them they will never dissapoint.

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What is this one ranting

TWENTY-THREE (23) THINGS TO DO TO KEEP
YOUR HUSBAND UNDER THE CONTROL OF
YOUR LOVE
1. Call him by a pet name
2. Allow him exercise his authority as the
head of the family.
3. DO not challenge him when he is hurt.
4. Be silent when he is angry. You can go
back to him in his sober moment with
apology and explain why you behave that
way that annoyed him.
5. Be quick to say "I'm sorry dear" when
ever you offend him, insist on his
forgiveness,appreciate and kiss him when
he does.
6. Speak good of him before his Friends and
siblings.
7. Honor his mother
8. Insist that he buys gift for his parents and
so be sure that he will do same for your
parents
9. Surprise him with his favorite dish
especially when he has no enough money at
hand and never delay his food.
10. Do not allow the maid to serve him food
when you are at home. Because u may lose
him to them.
11. Give him a warm reception with an
embrace when he returns, collect his
luggage and help UnCloth him.
12. Smile when you look at him and give
him occasional pecks when you are out
socially.
13. Praise him before your children
sometimes.
14. Wash his back while he is in the tub or
shower.
15. Put love note in his lunch box or
briefcase.
16. Phone and tell him that you miss him.
17. Dial his number and on hearing "hello"
just tell him I love you.
18. If he is a public figure or politician
gently wake him at the early hours of the
morning and romance him to the point of
demand. He will not be entice by any other
woman that day.
19. Tell him how lucky you are to have him
as your husband.
20. Give him a hug for no reason.
21. Appreciate God for the Adam of your life.
22. Always remember to pray for him.
23. Implement this law that your family will
wake up early in the morning to pray
together and also pray together before
going to bed in the evening...
May God bless your marriages.
Singles may you experience true love today
and forever.

cc Lalasticlala

Annunaki:
Do you want to go and bomb them?

Is that what you do?

pneumaticos:
/rilwayne001

Guys being along time,oh i saw most of you guys,happy new year who among you is in osun, state

Many muslims are converting to christianity in that state..i am presently there,if any of you is around,we can met

Have a great day guys

Can you tell us the area?

Annunaki:
Why is your al taquiya champion yusuf adepoju not bold enough to answer simple questions on nl I have given my conditions before I agree to come out for a live debate. Tell your al taquiya experts to meet up to those very simple conditions.

I am sure fear don dey catch una

If una be true christian come out

TAKBIIIRRR. ALLAHU AKBAR!
Glory be to Almighty Allah, the Entirely Merciful,. the Especially Merciful. At a time when some princes that Allah crown kings are ashamed of allowing their wives and daughters to wear hijab then, Allah begins raising and elevated prince like Prince mallam Muhammad Qozeem to the position of king in our lands and with his wife in Niqoob full khimar jalbaab, This is the help from Allah alone. my dear brothers and sisters please help me pray for this king, his name is Oba muhammad qozeem rohji adekunle okikiola ilufemiloye ( olowu of owu ile) in ejigbo local govt of osun state. May Almighty ALLAH grants him long life, peaceful reign, sound Imaan prosperity and long life and may ALLAH guide all our others Oba to the true way Al-Islam and may they lead us long in sound health and prosperity with fear of ALLAH and may Almighty ALLAH help us eradicate disbelief and paganism in our lands. ameen!!!
The most youngest Yoruba king @38 'Oba Muhamed Roji Qozeem Ilufemiloye 1 Olowu of Owu ile ejigbo local govt in d state of Osun. Also d 1 st Oba dat wil received d staff with wife Olori in Nikob (Islamic face cover) on d anniversary. Congratulations all Owu ile indigenes, Osun, Yoruba, Nigeria entirely for ur coronation and presentation of Staff of office.

Lalasticlala, maclatunji. have you seen this before?

Demmzy15:

you also laugh
!! let me laugh my own before you finish am

bukhakhakhakhakhakha ;Dkhakhakhakhakhakha


The guy should go and change his name to "BIG LIE"

Annunaki:
It's true thousands of muslims are renouncing islam every day to become atheists and christians, a little google search will give you all the evidence you need. Even saudi Arabia that is supposedly 97% muslim now has an estimated 10% covert christian population.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaa, so this is your al-Taqiyyah

Please change your name to lie

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Annunaki:
There are no pictures or videos of 'christians' who converted to islam in the useless link, it's the same picture of list of fakes names on the previous thread that is there and same video of your al taquiya champion making a foool of himself. It was even tola9ja same person who opened the useless thread on nl that the story was sourced from in the link.

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You have been invited several times to an open debate but you keep on purnishing yourself on nairaland. why won't you meet us for open debate and prove to us that you are a Christian

Bakrabas:
lol.wch on z urz? a chrch goer i tink or witch

you got him jare

he must be a church goer