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faoogoke:
Accesscorp get one whale like that. It must be an HE. He shows up when market is about to close and drag the price down.

Lol.
It's one or two guys calling the shots there and dragging the price down for whatever reasons best known to them.

Ironically, the shareholding structure does not support the sell off at all....
Just 1Bn units created as Free Float, representing 20%.....

It could be that the "whale" cornered quite a larger % of the free float in order to be able to carry out his assignment on the stock.

I don't want to buy those PE talks and all that.
If the majority holders wants it at higher price, they know what to do.
TA works with volume and trading pattern/direction as well.

mallamOmonile1:
@yMcy56
Your guy has sent his boy @5.00 ooo
So expect him later in the day
We don collect few units at 4.95 sha....

Closed @4.50
That guy na one yeye person....
Hope you've also seen his pattern of trading the stock.....
One of the worst trading pattern for a newly listed stock.....
Let's see if he's done @4.50 or not yet satisfied...
I hope he comes to take it up the way he's crashing it..

Market is generally not doing bad today....
Quite some greens...

Attached is AVA as at now....
Full bid...
Still watching if the dumper will show again to confirm his action is deliberate....😊

I read an article which says, even though our banking stocks have appreciated in prices, yet they're still cheap compared to their counterparts in other climes.....

If I see it again, I go post the link here..

* How much Cent is GTB?
* Aside SEPLAT, AIRTEL & NESTLE recently, how many stocks listed in NGX is selling for $1 yet....

Maybe OANDO go do some craz* moves...
Wale better behave and put things in order fast....😊

Agbalowomeri:
Let the kalokalo begin

If those guys should roll in Bullion Vans, some people go ditch Dang Refinery...

Alhaji was smart, I'd thought he said October before, but when he heard 21st September, he quickly moved his IPO before then....
* Alhaji became a marketer by force 😁

Let them sha move this ARADEL above 2k first....as per say na im Dem put for front.....
Followed by others....😁

* All stocks will possibly move one way or the other.....

AVACAP
Attached is the table upon opening of the market.....
Let's see how that joyless dumper will come from behind curtains to dump again today...
Let's see what his target is..

Mpeace:
As Una no put Currentprice, nosa and customstreet for this list, na him be say na una personal choice

I don't know the kind list Dem dey show us o 😁

Where's Oga Wanaj0, Currentprice in the Stock Pick Winners?
Even Oga Emma wasn't included in the first list 😊

Dem come carry noise makers like Mcy join for the list 😁

Ameboperoo:
It went to 5.5 but later went down. What is realy goin on?

In fact, for the better part of today's trading, the total offer wasn't up to 200k...
Yet, the seller keeps bringing wares from his hiding place...
He/they will get tired at some point I blvd.

**I Went Looking For The Quiet Nairaland Posters Who Actually Pick Winners — Here’s What I Found**
By @ThinkMore

- What a beautifully put-together piece.
- Without even saying it, it's glaring you put in a lot of works and energy to arrive at your list.
Well done bros ✅

I however laughed when I saw Ymcy's moniker..
I was like "what could Mcy a gambler be possibly doing among that list"? 😁

- I actually understood when you dwelt on 2025 till date....
- If it were to be earlier, then you would have discovered more " QUIET ORACLES" and GOAT Stock Pick Winners.....
Dem dey give "sure odds" at all times. 😊

SonofElElyonRet:
No let Mercy hear ooo

Lol. The stock dey show us pepper.....
I think there's more to what's happening than we can see.....
It was/is a deliberate action
Some aggrieved ones/staffers seems to be bent on running the stock down by all means but the company will prevail at last by God's grace.

Emmaodet was also able to see beyond current dumping.....

emmaodet:
Avacap at #4.5 per share looks like a good pick because the it is trading at a discount to the fair value of #5.5 according to my calculation and with the incoming increase in asset under management, though increase in shares outstanding, i think it should get to between #10 to #15 in the short and medium terms.

Someone will go for a day or 2, or even some hours and will come back to meet like 10 pages or more....
Una well done o 😁

Oga BBM, it's nice seeing you back on the thread...
Such a long time!
You're welcome Sir. 😎

Coded accumulations of ARADEL has been ongoing for quite some times now.....

They try not to make the price go above their accumulation range.....
When its going up, they crossed it down....
* Billions has been exchanging hands here....

Is it on this thread I read about a Korean quietly accumulating ARADEL and SEPLAT?
Not sure....but I read it somewhere.

**Updated**
Ok. He's a Benin Republic born not South Korean and it's on this thread

Asangbekoko:
Conversely, I also must confess that Mercy s faith and encouragement has helped me a lot in this market during my trying times. Now, nothing can shake me anymore.

- The thing is: You don't lose until you sell as long as the Company is still listed, healthy and compliant.
- Draw encouragement from this and sieve reality from noises.
- Don't let anyone discourage you....especially during this period.
- Avoid selling at loss.

* Even with COVID-19 ridiculously low prices, market didn't crash, companies/people still recovered from it.
* The market will still come around again.

* My AVACAP is in 50% loss, but I'm rather looking on the brighter side,....I blvd it's just a matter of time; also having other strategies on standby.....though funds can most times be an impediment but I just know there'll be a way out somehow.
* I've had a situation where DANGSUGAR for instance went to -100%, +100%, etc.
* I know what it feels.
** This time shall also pass.

essentialone1:
*Regulators like NAICOM, SEC, CBN are not meant to guarantee profit.*
Their job is to make sure the game isn’t rigged.

*Their job is basically to protect you FROM BEING SCAMMED*.
This means:
- *Disclosure*: Companies must tell the truth in financial statements
- *Fraud prevention*: No fake recapitalisation, no Ponzi schemes, no mis-selling of insurance
- *Solvency oversight*: Making sure insurers/banks actually have the money they claim
- *Market integrity*: Stopping insider trading, market manipulation
- *Consumer protection*: Clear policy terms, fair claims process.

*Their job is NOT to protect you FROM LOSING MONEY*.
This means:
- *Investment risk is yours*: If you buy shares and the market crashes, that’s business risk
- *Insurance claims can be denied*: If your policy excludes it, regulator won’t force payment
- *Companies can fail*: Even after recapitalisation. NAICOM ensures they meet minimum capital, not that they can never go bankrupt
- *No bailouts for bad decisions*: Regulators don’t insure you against bad investments

*Why the distinction matters*
If regulators tried to "protect from losing money", they’d have to:
1. Guarantee returns → which creates moral hazard
2. Stop all risky businesses → which kills innovation and growth
3. Bail out every failure → which taxpayers end up paying for

Instead, the rule is: *"Make the market transparent and fair. After that, adults make adult decisions."*

Na wa o.
You people are making me to look as if I don't know what I'm saying again....

What does MARKET REGULATION mean in the first place?
What's the work of Regulators?
And when I said your funds are protected, what does it mean?

* Now, if market keeps tanking non-stop, don't you know the regulators will look into the root cause and do something about it?

* If you have maintenance department in a company for instance, do you take pliers and tools as the CEO to fix ACs, Taps, etc?
Of course, you'll summon the department involved to look into the leakages and fix it.

** Make una stop twisting my posts o. 😁

* I hope you also know we have some unwritten rules that guides the activities of an organization.
* We also have detailings...

** One of the ways funds are protected is to ensure the company is doing it right.....periodic monitoring of Financials, sight seeings, etc.

Na the way I understand these things be this.

Some Ogas won't stop living in the past.....
Except Nigeria happens to SEC, a repeat of 2008 is highly unlikely.....
Individuals now have direct access to the market and their investments unlike the "dark" era..

Some relief in the market today....
At least, some stocks are not falling Indiscriminately so far....

Who are those crossing ARADEL @ days low?

** On Dangote Refinery**

https://nairametrics.com/2026/09/10/dangote-refinery-ipo-look-before-you-leap/

Asangbekoko:
Thank you for defending our investments against the likes of Agbalowomeri.

My bros, that's not it o.
Agbalowomeri is Oga in this market...
He's knowledgeable, well versed and speaking from experience.
I'm just saying what it ought to be in this dispensation ni.....based on the Amended Rules and Regulations that now guides the market....😁

Agbalowomeri:
Just dey play
In 2008, na regulators and stockbrokers dey hustle to get out of the market while the market was on a free fall. Regulators are not here to protect you from losing money. Losing money is part of the market

You're right sir.
You're my big boss in this game, I know.
Losing money is part of the game but not under some "avoidable" circumstances.....
I don't know maybe that was the right word to use o..😊

Do you know the experience of 2008 has made them developed more in-depth and robust policies that now monitor unusual activities and all that.

I hope you know that the protection is not about what you buy or sell due to your personal choice.

2008 was the Oil boom period and the time NSE was so porous that manipulations by the brokers/individuals were the order of the day.
NGX seems to be too relaxed in monitoring and strictly implementing some of the policies.

That was analogue era, now we're in digital era.
The world is evolving, NGX won't fold hands and watch the market crash under their surveillance..

Na my personal opinion be that...😁

OPAY: FAKE SHUTDOWN SUSPECT ARRESTED

* Very good.
For those thinking they can continue to stay behind the keyboard to type nonsense or tarnish a company's image should continue...
This is an evidence that they'll be tracked down and arrested...

** It's remaining the one that issued fake letter on ACCESS ceasing to operate again.

https://nairametrics.com/2026/09/10/police-arrest-suspect-behind-fake-opay-shutdown-report/

https://punchng.com/police-arrest-woman-over-fake-opay-shutdown-notice/?amp

Agbalowomeri:
The duty of regulators is to protect investors from being scammed, not from losing money

So investors funds are not protected?
Dey play Sir..
If NGX falls for 5 consecutive days non-stop with all stocks shedding -10%, then you'll know SEC and others have the duties to protect people's funds and instill confidence in the market.

COVID time was due to worldwide pandemic, it was abnormal period......and as soon as there was green light, the MMs and stakeholders swung into action (even before the 🍏 light, they were working in the background)....
That was why many investors started having confidence to be buying back again.
* The rate at which stocks were sold at any available price and funds exited could have crashed the whole market if the regulators had not done anything about it that time.

NGX is international market, there's the need to continuously protect it's image.

deathwing:
Haba, why are you usually so panicky? What do you want the regulators to do about it? You seem to like frequent regulator interference in the markets. If na so, nobody go invest o.

Their primary duty is to protect investors, so there's the need to always call them to sit up.

Do you know how much investors have lost in the last 2-3 days?

What you should know is that if that continues, it will not only affect NGX but will affect the country as a whole.

We're still trying to woo more investors, negativity can cause severe damage for both existing and new entrants if left unattended to.

Just checking through today's price list...
- Today's trade wasn't encouraging at all
- Market is not receiving this news in good faith.
- The regulators should have thought DANGREF through because of the nature of industry it belongs.

Maybe circuit breaker needs be triggered at some point now......because some big companies are gradually joining the list of already affected stocks.....
* By the time AIRTEL, NESTLE and SEPLAT join, NGX will know there's fire on their mountain.....
* Hope something drastic is done btw tomorrow and the next....

Streetinvestor2:
Which was possible only under a failed government
As we know a new government is coming next yr.
It means it will never happen

He's Agba-lowo-meri nah ...
Freebies and grave robber price no go woundjure him finish 😁

Agbalowomeri:
When market collapse finish

Ok o.
Since which year you don dey wait for market to collapse?
How many more years is your TA telling you to wait? 🙄
You sure you go enter if e collapse finish?

Agbalowomeri:
Una still get portfolio

With all the Bulls, you no get?
Which year you go come enter? 2033?

iskalamong:
This is the first time I am observing that you are not bullish on a stock.

I used to assume you're the direct opposite of Agba.

Lol 😆
I'm direct opposite of Agba
Generally tilted towards positive and Bullish market.

I'd expected DANGREF to bring favourable sentiments to the market but now, it's causing more losses than blessings....
I can't be bullish on it...
My portfolio, people's Portfolios are bleeding...🥹
What type of stock will be coming to the market and causing investors such grief

aj8:
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but the fact that the Dangote refinery is requiring a minimum purchase of 10 units and it's Par value of 0.000013USD, is a pointer to a future consolidation of 10 for 1 reverse split, likely before they list on the US market in a few years. 10 units will then become 1 unit. That would pair them up well with/against Seplat for easier price determination/ appreciation/comparison.

Very glaring they'll do reconstruction at some point along the line.

Meanwhile, I learnt Alhaji owns 84.34% control of the shares.

** Just yesterday, NGX lost N1.88 Trillion due to DANGREF IPO

mikeapollo:
We were here when Zichis listed and pumped their shares from N1.80 to about N20 and some people were defending them.

At least we all know the business pedigree and credibility of Dangote and his Group; reason why even banks gave him credit without demanding for his licence.

What a comparison!
Was ZICHIS hyped?
When it was listed, some Ogas also were against the stock while some of us believed in her.

If you believed in your DR, go for it.
No one can prevail on my opinion with cheap blackmail.
DANGREF does not meet my own criteria for now, simple!
When listed, we'll be here to buy if criteria changes to positive......God willing.

WhizdomXX:
Is the prospectus out now?

Awesome posted it above your post

https://mwangocapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Dangote-Refinery-Prospectus.pdf

ghm:
Could you please explain what you mean by class?

Una don dig my post reach that side,lol.

By class, I was referring to the level we had expected a stock of that caliber to be...

Maybe I used the wrong word but what I meant was that the whole thing looks untidy/scattered to me.... especially the Outstanding Shares......
I also thought the minimum could have been 100 instead of 10 units ....and this is just personal opinion .

Note: it's commendable that the Refinery considers everyone irrespective of Social Status.

veecovee:
I salute you all beloved folks. It's been a long time.

Assuming the refinery shares wasn't oversubscribed next month what will finally be the size of the outstanding number of shares to be listed in November. Will it be up to the size of dangcement?

Pastor, it's been a very long time!!
Good to see you back on the thread and to also see that you're hale and hearty.

Streetinvestor2:
Me ke never
Let look at this scenario. If Dangote Cement I could have bought at 800 plus paid dividend of #45 and likely to pay #50 minimum this yr
I will go buy Dangote refinery at premium which can not pay more that #20 dividend this yr
How do you expect the price of this refinery to hit above his cement any time soon. As the goodwill to the both business is still Dangote brand identity. When the media want to make news you go hear Dangote Cement pays dividend of #50.And Dangote refinery pays dividend of #20. Then market go react...lol

Pls this is not to discourage anyone from participating. I am doing my normal street analysis here

Lol. 😁

Good luck to those participating.
No one is discouraging anyone but just stating our own points of view as well.....for a balanced decision making I blvd.