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Evicsholar: . Pls does it mean that we are now buying through AE? Wot if d price is higher on AE than on 1688.com?

You are paying through Aliexpress.

2. No the price will not be higher. it will just be an addition of 5% of your total cost .

Example. if you are to pay $300 and you want to make the payment on Aliexpress. you will add 5% of $300.
Note!!!

If you are not mathematically inclined. to get 5% just divid any item by 20.

see mathematically.

5% of $300 = (5/100) X $300 = $15

Now add $15 + $300= $315.


If you are not mathematically inclined. just do this to get 5%.

$300/20= $15
Now add $15 + $300= $315.


Therefore
5% of X == X/20.




THE 5% is escrow fee.

eddyj36: Nice one bro!.. very helpful

thanks

phranco: Hmmmm,this ymodulus of a guy,u be correct teacher abi na tutor, u be correct expert on making ppl comprehend u

lol!! My thanks.

Dumdum217: I found out that alibaba don't deal on retails
Most of the products there, their minimum order ranges from 100pcs upward.

Please is there a way to beat down the qauntity as stated by the supplier?

Again, why is it difficult/impossible to find product like Tecno, Gionee and the likes on alibaba?
I thought they are china products too

Yes for sure. I buy few items . I bought just 1peice of Lenovo Vibe Mini yesterday.

Forget all those no you see there. These is where negotiations comes in. I will not like to go in there

BUYING WITHOUT REGISTRATION

Buying without registration is easy. you just have to get the contact of the seller and you are free to go.


Now let me take you down the Non-registration Route (In my opinion Best Route.)


When you visit any link on 1688. com, the seller always and its a must, I repeat the sellers always have their phone numbers on the page , you will also see the trade manager , Qq Id (not often) or Wechat id(not often).


PHONE NO
This is the easiest way to have things go your way.

There is a popular saying that " you use money to get money". Here this saying take effect.

All you have to do, is pick up the phone no of the contact. and then send him a simple text message, see

TEXT MESSAGE

*******************************************

Hi

I am from Nigeria. I want to buy watch on your 1688.com store. please send me your qq or Trade manager Id to my +2348065432....

Thanks.
*******************************************


Now take note of the message format above I still added my phone no. even though am using my phone no to send the text. the reason is because at times when you call China , they receiving party will not receive or see your phone no. Its done by their network for security reasons. At times they receiving part might see your phone no. so to avoid a case where your phone number is not seen. Just add it to your message.

Note!!!:
As at this time of writing. A text message of 1 page to China cost N15. So I believe this should not be a problem.



TRADE MANAGER ID

Every seller on 1688.com uses trade manager. Do not forget that the website is owned by the ALIBABA GROUP. Now if a seller is online just Click that icon and chat will come up then go onbchatting with them.

QQ I'd
Some sellers use QQ. you can get it from them or you will see it openly written.




Conclusion

You need not register to buy an Item on 1688 . com , all that is needed is for you to establish contact with your seller and booooooooom discussion continues.



Payment Method

There are two ways of paying on 1688.com

1. Through MONEY TRANSFER by your NIGERIAN SHIPPING AGENT
2. Through your NIGERIAN ATM CARD.


Now for the first way please see this thread for more : https://www.nairaland.com/1819824/newly-found-shipping-agent-china



For the second way, read on

Now I use this most often.
Most seller on 1688 . com have stores on aliexpress and Alibaba . com, ask them that you want to pay on aliexpress, they will agree and ask you to place an order then you will pay. That's how you do things.
Note!! Most times some Chinese sellers can be funny. they will give you stupid items. so that's why its best to bring them online on Aliexpress or Alibaba and leverage the power of escrow.


However if you are to carry out a money transfer, let it be Payment-On-Delivery. some may not agree all you dobis send them the money straight.





TRANSLATING The 1688.com Into ENGLISH
Use Google Chrome Browser


PICTURES to come later

Jeffy1206: Another opportunity for us to advertise our products lolz. Good one for beginners...

Mr advertiser come contribute. No run oo.
.for all if you need manufacturers info on mobile phones contact this guy.

Without doubt you will agree with me that procurement from Alibaba is easy.

These are all there is to it. Nothing big about the manufacturers.

Now its left for you to go and develop extra skills.

Our work is just to teach you ABC. you are to learn how to use the ABC.

Tomorrow I will try uploading pictures of Mobile phone and towel customised by Shinaf.


That reminds me do you know tecno Assembles and is more of an ODM??

Topic for another day.



Please ask your questions before I go to bed

Some

Some few works

Let me Upload pictures of works done or gotten from The Manufacturers or Makers.

mayorall: I am honoured my friend. But cold is catching me

The power bank you see above. Is an example of what mayor got a manufacturer to have build to his taste.


That feature of customising things is called OEM or ODM.

You can decide to work up to churches, politicians, school union leaders, banks give them proposals and customise item for them while you make money.

No dulling. For more on customisation read this thread by Dav8id
https://www.nairaland.com/1495077/alibaba.com-make-poor

Or contact Nairaland Queen of contracts. TUTUCIOUS

SHIPPING OF GOODS.

Well now it depends on you. Do you want to use DHL or you want to go through NIGERIAN SHIPPING AGENTS

usin Nigerian Shipping Agent is Highly Recommended.

Advantages of Shipping Agent.
- cheaper cost and faster
-escape custom wahala
- they can carry out Quality Check when item is manufactured by a factory.

To use a shipping agent give tour seller the shipping agent address and tell them to send the goods there.

For more info please read this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/1819824/newly-found-shipping-agent-china

PROPOSAL


yes at times you must have sent message to some sellers on Alibaba.com and none of them will reply you. Or you must have contacted some manufacturers and they won't respond.
Truth is you don't expect all to respond. But also ask yourself what am I getting wrong.



Now if you don't want to learn about proposal please see the next post below called CHATTING RULES.

FORMAT of PROPOSAL


First of all, credits to whom credits is due MAYORALL. I am a experienced a little bit because MayorAll guided me on the way of Light.

Now there are several kind of proposals. However for this tutorial I will be teaching you on the DIRECT BUSINESS APPROACH PROPOSAL.

Here you will learn how to send a manufacturer on Alibaba or other sites a message for quotation request or business invitation.

Please note that I have decided not to upload screenshots of PERSONAL PROPOSAL because everybody here will begin to recopy it and use and once any seller sees it. They will say he's a Nigerian.

Now format.


Hi. ( manufacturer or wholesaler name )

I am Ymodulus from Ymodulus Watches Big. Ltd

My company will be interested in buying 300pieces of your curren watches.

Please send us your qoutation or P. I , TradeManager I'd, Skype Username , Email, Website.

We look forward to doing business with you.


Ymodulus
General Manager of Ymodulus Watches Big Ltd

NEGOTIATIONS


Because you are dealing with a WholeSaler or Manufacturer is not a guarantee that you are getting the best price.
Yes you will get a good reasonable price but how can you get the best of the best.

**Exhales**

This I won't explain or go into details. But 1 piece of advice

" Put your seller in an emotional state. "

This is where I will stop on this

PAYMENT METHOD

I will explain them in line with shinaf Listing.


1 . ESCROW

This is similar to your aliexpress payment. Same way you pay on Aliexpress. The advantage of this is that your money is not in the hand of the suppliers or Manufacturers but in the account of Alibaba Group of companies. These is to ensure that in case things goes wrong you can get your money back.
Below is a screenshot on AliBaba Escrow Page.
Please forgive me screenshot from an android mobile phone however it is the computer page version.

This is a screenshot Showing an Order placed on Alibaba for watches about $138.48

https://i.imgur.com/emv7Obw.jpg

This is a screenshot show me about to pay
https://i.imgur.com/vUzUmV8.jpg

This is a screenshot showing that my payment was successful.
https://i.imgur.com/wb4zVxr.jpg
I love Visa Card. Access....


2. MONEY TRANSFER THROUGH THIRD PARTY SHIPPING COMPANIES.

Briefly:
There are situations where a company will never accept escrow. It does not mean they are fraud. Its just the way the want it.

Now to pay these class of manufacturers or sellers see this thread.



3. PAYPAL

With the introduction of PayPal. Life has been easy for Major Importers.
Another way to pay your manufacturer or supplier is through Paypal.
To get more info on payment via Paypal see any of the PayPal thread on Nairaland or better still visit PayPal Nigeria website.


4. Use of 3rd Party Online.

Please if you are Inexperienced , Beginner, Fearful type, Inpatient Do not Practise this.
I plead again do not practise this.
This type entails you using an online Chinese seller and paying to him through his Aliexpress account and asking him to help you pay to the supplier. I feel I should not go into details about this. I am scared some will practise it and loose money. So I will end this here

There are almost 3 different types of Sellers or suppliers or Manufacturers on Alibaba. however in a bid to keep things so simple less verbose and extremely easy I will not elaborate on all. It will end up confusing some and believe me its to early to get confuse. However I will make sure you are all carried along. I have got stock of things in Pile waiting for you.



Ooooo before I forget I just asked shinaf to Help me, on some topics.

SEARCHING
VERIFICATION (safety Measures)
MANUFACTURER Confirmation (True or False)

NEGOTIATION
PAYMENT
SHIPPING
END.

Now I will be using a CuRREN watch as an Example.

** If we want to buy curren watch first we will visit alibaba.com and search for Curren in the search bar or through any way you believe you can search best.
Now when searching for an Item On Alibaba.com Please have the following in Mind.

1. GOLD SELLER.

Ensure that any item you want to buy the seller of that item is a gold supplier. You may ask is this necessary.
Well if you know that you dont want to be EASILY DUPED always deal with a Gold Seller.


Can i deal with a Non- Gold Seller?
Yes for sure. I have carried out several transaction with Non-Gold Suppliers. At times this Non-Gold Suppliers are even nicer than the So-Called Gold Supplier. However in dealing with a Non-Gold Supplier please do not break this RULE.

RULE1: Always I repeat Always Use Escrow. I don't have to explain Escrow here. If you don't know it Google it.

RULE2: Where rule 1 is not an option ensure that you only agree to PAYMENT-ON-DELIVERY (POD). Here your seller will send goods to Your Agent who will pay on delivery of the goods. (I trust my 9ja brothers. This one need no explanation. Abi??


2) Assessed supplier.
This is the very reliable supplier in Alibaba.com, because this kind of supplier have extream requirements to get assessed. They need to have a real existed company for exporting which as the complete certification and license to doing the export business, meantime, they must have a certified factory to produce the related products for their customers. If you want to verity this kind of supplier, the same way to click the "Company Overview", you will see the similar below information over there.

Note: To see or know an accessed supplier. u will see a logo there with the word Accessed.

Please am trying to safe my data now I will upload the Logo tomorrow.

fola89: Ymodulus - is - a - psycho

Ok. I just confirmed you are the one.

Check your BBM now for contact. His name is GU M***in

initialize: I follow come

My Oga. U na man. How phone bizness

fola89: Curren wrist watch

You are madt. Lol contact me. I owe u a gift.

I will give you the contact of the original manufacturer of Curren Wrist Watch. U don't believe me? Just contact me. His prize is the cheapest on Alibaba and his authenticity have been confirmed by JUDY of NONNIKINGS.

Please for me to be sure you are the one. Send me a Mail through the Nairaland Email feature.

Below is an attached Curren with Glass Box

Also Have a good data bundle Etisalat Or Mtn is preferred. Do not call Airtel Here Please.
That reminds me. abeg my subscription. Son nearly finish 2Mb. If u fit get me I go appreciate thanks.


--------_--------

Now the best way to learn is by Example and Experience.

Now I want someone here to Give us an item we will like to get as an example.

May be Watches or Phones or Whatever just list something I should use as an example. Am waiting....

Ok. Let me start.

What is Alibaba.com and why should I use it?



Alibaba.com is an online shopping site but this time only Wholesalers and manufacturers are present.

On alibaba you get items at extremely cheaper, reason been you are getting the item from an wholesaler or manufacturer. Also on alibaba.com you can create customised item. you can meet manufacturers to customise anything you want. From Car spare parts to HandBand to Telephone to Biro's to Packaging to Wedding Gowns to shoes to Watches.
Am tired of listing please visit site to have a view / feel.





NEEDED TOOLS

NOW for this tutorial am a going to assume you Have the following.

ANDRIOD PHONE USERS
please have the following..

1. Google Chrome Browser or UCweb
2. TradeManager (on play store its called Alisuppliers )
3. Have an active Email Box ( Google Mail aka Gmail is the most preferred. )


IPHONE USERS
please have the following

1. Safari Browser
2. Trade Manager. (On apple store its called Alisuppliers)
3. Have an active Mail Box




Laptop Users
Please have the following.

1. Google Chrome or Mozilla firefox.
2. TradeManager installed on your system
3. Mail Box



Other tools needed are as follows.

1. Skype (Extremely useful. these days Chinese sellers love Skype like their life. Beside its very useful in making a break through during negotiations. I will explain later. Let me not deviate)
2. WeChat.
3. WhatsApp. (Not really useful. But some sellers are on whatsapp)
4. QQ Messenger (Download the International Version
Only available for Android or Laptop Version)
5. Email Client. (Like on Android Gmail App)



That's All on Tools. I will entertain Just few questions only.

dav8id: i was here 04th,augus.2014 when ymodulus was the chairman

My oga na u be chairman. no be me

yemi2plus: I was here.

Oya no run oo

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[size=16pt]REFERENCES on This Thread.[/size]

If You don't want to read the whole thread, Just want the important points follow the links below



1. What is Alibaba. brief Introduction.
https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version#25225760

2. Type of sellers on Alibaba . com

https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version#25227077


3. VERIFICATION AND PAYMENT.
https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version#25227868

4. Payment Method and ways

https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/1#25228713


5. NEGOTIATIONS

https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/1#25229407

6. Proposal writing
https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/1#25229813

And

https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/1#25233569


7. Important tips about proposal writing
https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/1#25230149

8. Transporting Goods to Nigeria
https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/1#25230295


9. Further Reason You should deal with A Gold Supplier (Live experience )

https://www.nairaland.com/1842692/it-yourself-alibaba-version/10#26228305

Wthout doubt we all know how to purchase from aliexpress but purchasing from sites like alibaba.com , taobao and 1688 can prove to be a tedious / difficult task.

I am on siester break for some days. so i will be giving detailed explanations.

Without doubt there are some experts on certain aspects of this. So at one point in time i will like them to make reasonable contributuions. However let me start by saying a big thanks to them.

1. MayorAll
2. Shinaf
3. MasterCee
4. YoungZeed
5. Davi8d

Poster your no. lets get several things right. its hard to distengrate between your post and the comment also an indexing system will be ok.

[size=14pt]1st Position - Onyeche ( onyichick )
2nd - Ruth - ( Paradise163 )
3rd - Iyiola ( heyihola )
4th - Victor ( RayPawer )[/size]


Olayiwola has been disqualified by the JUDGES for cheating. He registered a new nairaland account to enable him compete. If he hadnt cheated he would have been third.
You are fraud brother.

RESULTS

QUESTIONS No1 (20marks)
You have been contacted by SEUN (owner of Nairaland) to purchase Laptops from China for the NAIRALAND HEADQUATERS in Ogun State. Each Laptop cost $500Each and SEUN needs 10PIECES within a duration not exceeding 25DAYS
Answer the following
What Chinese site will be the best site for this purchase
(www.alibaba.com)
What application will you use to chat with your seller . TradeManager

What method of shipping is available and will you use[b] (Normal shipping)[/b]

d . How will you negotiate with your seller to get better price
I will tell him i have a large market for his product that will be solely control by me for a few years to come before major competition. I will let him know that the target market is mainly over 9, 300 students of a newly built tertiary institution(Heritage Polytechnic). Having informed him about the large market potential in the area, i will now tell him if he can get me the 10 laptops at a discounted price for sample, that i will definitely be back for large order if his products is good enough and of high quality. I will tell him if his product is good enough, the demand from the students will be high an impressive considering the fact that the product is not very expensive. With this, he might just be tempted to take the risk with the hope of having a bigger deal with me in future. After all that what business is all about. "Some degree of calculated risk".
aNY LIE THAT WILL MAKE YOU APPEAR AS A BIG COMPANY IS THE RIGHT WAY.
QUESTION No2
After the purchase was made, the total laptops weighed 14.6KG. Please answer the following
Using the given hint: 1kg Normal Shipping cost $4.9 transportation,
1kg Custom clearance cost N280
All exchange rate is $1 ==> N164

Cost for Transportation:
1kg = $4.9
14.6kg = $4.9 x 14.6kg
= $71.54

Using Exchange Rate $1 = N164
Cost of Transportation in Naira = $71.54 x 164
= N11,732.56

Custom Clearance:
1kg = 280
Therefore for the goods; 14.6kg = 14.6kg x 280
= N4,088

Total Cost of Shipping = Cost of Transportation + Custom Clearance
= N11,732.56 + N4,088
= N15,820.56


b) List 2 Courier company that can pick up SEUN laptop from Lagos International Airport and send to him in Ogun State
Krixmax Logistics, Kobomart
c) Give SEUN a reasonable date you can get his laptop delivered to him
I will consider 7 days shipping days to Nigeria, and additional 5 days for an unforeseen circumstances in case there's clearance issues, just as we experience in the country couple of weeks ago. I will tell Seun, i will get his laptops delivered within 12 - 14 days.

QUESTION 3
List 5 Chinese website for online Shopping. Note!! Aliexpress and Alibaba. Com not inclusive (www.tmall.com, www.1688.com, www.taobao.com, www.dhgate.com www.chinacarts.com etc)
QUESTION 4
In which Chinese City or Province can you find Most Nigerian SHIPPING COMPANIES (Spelling counts)
(Guangzhou) or Guangdong Province√
QUESTION 5
To a MINI IMPORTER, can the importation of chicken be considered as A CONTRABAND? YES or NO
(yes)√
QUESTION 6
Arrange these free shipping companies in their order of fastness
HONKONG POST (1st) - SINGAPORE POST(2nd) - CHINA POST(3rd) - SWISS POST (4th) -
QUESTION 7
Below are courier companies used to send goods WITHIN CHINA? Select the fastest 3 courier company AND arrange them in their order of fastness
SF EXPRESS -> Sto Express -> Zto express -> ExpressYundex Air Mail
QUESTION 8
The most expensive mode of shipping from CHINA to NIGERIA is
DHL
FEDEX (Answer)√
UPS
EMS
QUESTION 9
State 10 PIONEERS who have helped changed, and contribute immensely towards the importation of goods from China to Nigeria on NAIRALAND BUSINESS SECTION.
El matteo, 2Sexy, Mayorall, Ymodulus, mastercee, 9free, Yemi2plus, shinaf, tonjeola, surveycash etc)
QUESTION 10
Which Groups own ALIBABA and ALIEXPRESS.com?
(the Alibaba group)√
QUESTION 11
Which mobile operating system is friendly to an Importer?
Android (answer)√
IOS
Windows
Linux
QUESTION 12
Select the best Mobile Browser for browsing a CHINESE SHOPPING SITE (this site is in Chinese language and needed to be translated to English)
Opera Mini
Mozilla
Ucweb
Chrome (Answer)√

QUESTION 13
List 3 Applications used to chat with Chinese sellers. (Note! Trade Manager not inclusive). (whatsapp, wechat, skype, wangwang etc)!√
QUESTION 14
if you happen to be the winner of this Game challenge and given the sum of N100,000na what will you do with the said amount. Briefly state the item you will import and why
(I'll use the money to set up a tutorial center for Weac examination. Because I'll like to join in the campaign of rising back the education glory in Nigeria) √
QUESTION 15
list 3Shipping companies for shipping goods from America to Nigeria and 3websites you can buy goods from in the U.S and send to Nigeria. (Amazon and EBay excluded). (15a. Baze 1 Logistics, Nonikings, Fafalux etc ) b. (www.outpost.com, www.overstock.com, www.cdw.com etc)
QUESTION 16
LIST the following.
A. Host and Co-Host of this Challenge (Ymodulus and Shinaf)
B. SPONSORS of this challenge
( 1. CJ LOGISTICS
2. NonnyKings Logistics
3. Chidolue ChukwuNonso
4. KrixMax Logistics
5. Initialize. mobile
6. MASTERCEE
7. FlintHeart Shoes (opeokoluwa)
8. UzzyBaby
9. blym4real
10. Sterdam
11. Clinton
12. TheSpecialOne (NisborProcurement).
13. Eph12 (Procurement)
14. MayorAll)
c. What is the name of this WEBSITE that made it possible for you to be able to contest today?
(Nairaland)

QUESTION 17
a. List All the Nigerian bank which Visacard/ mastercard can be used on Aliexpress.
Zenith Bank, UBA bank, Access Bank, Fedility, Stanbic etc
b. Also State the best bank with the most friendly Exchange rate (Access Bank).
c. State the name of the Chinese currency (Chinese Yuan or RMB)
d. State the exchange rate of dollar to the Chinese currency[b] (1 usd = 6.25 RMB)[/b]
e. State the exchange rate of the Chinese currency to Naira. (1 RMB = 27 Naira)
QUESTION 18
You are to pay a Chinese Firm ' Xiang Industries' the sum of $4,000 and Bank transfer / western union / use of third party China shipping Agents are not working. Please kindly state in not more than 1 WORD the NEW WAY to transfer money to China and at cheaper rate. - (Paypal)√

QUESTION 19
MayorAll solutions imported 400Pieces of Ainox X laptops. The transporting was done via Air Freight Company (NAME OF COMPANY WITHELD), after 1 day of the goods arrived Nigeria. Mayor the manager of MAYORALL notice the tracking details are no longer changing, he his so worried and wants to go CRAZY. MayorAll Solutions can no longer take this and decided to employ you as a CONSULTANT on the issue. please
a. Tell mayor what you think have happened to his goods (not more than 10words)
(Custom found his goods dutiable and held it.)√
b. Briefly Advice mayoral on possible way to go about getting back the goods -
(He should get his Payment Invoice, His transaction details, proof of mode of payment used, Means of Identification and/or letter of intent showing the purpose of importing the goods and present them to the customs office at the Air Freight Company}
c. Tell us which AIR FREIGHT COMPANY mayoral solutions had likely used. (not more than 2 words) -(DHL)√
d. Advice mayor All on how to avoid same problem in future. - (Mayor should Ship through a Freight Forwarding Company popular known as 3rd Party shipping company)

QUESTION 20
POST BUYING FEATURE Can be found on which of this websites.
a. Aliexpress
b. ShianXing.com
c. Amazon
d. EBay
e. Rakuten.com
f. Alibaba.com (answer)√

However results will be announced tonight. Just 2 contestant left.

Marking scheme will roll out in some minutes