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The salary is pittance. Do they even consider the funds spent getting one's self educated to even reach this qualification requirement they are spitting, or the different certifications and test and exam to be up to standard?


Now imagine one collects a nelfund loan only to face crazy competition to get paid this?

How will they take take of themselves.



I don't understand the delusion in the Nigerian space.

Minimum wage should be around NGN350,000 per month while fuel price should simultaneously be N350/litre by my calculations for any thing to make sense. Assuming all other things remain the same.




If they do not want to adjust the fuel price.


Then assuming the fuel price at NGN 1,300 - 1400/liter remains. The expected minimum wage should be NGN 1,400,000 - 2,100,000 per month.

MINIMUM WAGE by the way. And those are monthly rates not annual.


Meaning most of the experience hire should be quoted offer above those target minimum wage figures.

Vision101:
Yes....the man said that he has been in service for almost 24 years. I guess that Tinubu has been president for 24 years. Can you see why we don't take haters like you serious. Their reasons for hatred always sound irrational.

I mean if APC has been in the reigns for say about 12 years, which is 50% of his service length.... And if Mr T once claiming Buhari's rule is to be believed then I think he's got considerable validity. At the very least its still an Apc administration ain't it?

I could be wrong sha.

[quote author=maasoap post=140905921]Those ones are not plain suicidals like this one. Those ones took their own lives because of what they did not because they were suicidal. This one is suicidal and he's dangerous to everyone around him. He just lighted up his own ass[/quote

The government is that has created conditions to create him is more dangerous. And btw his employment scope is not the only one suffering the same.

What should be canned therefore is government.


Leaving root causes to treat a small fraction of symptoms can futile and arduous work in this case.

Are you guys counting the cost on the EIA per changes made so far on the roads though?

Commendation for selling future solid minerals to them (and what's annoying is likely for the cheap because tell me what do you mean by $700 BN for mineral resources, very silly valuation of Nigeria's immense wealth considering meddling by them allies for insecurity)
For not leaving them out after doing similar to China for loans taken concerning future crude oil and lithium, the Gulf country loans for financial bonds and premium grade Nigerian gold and jewelry resources that ends up in luxury climes like Singapore after being rebranded to hide its source.

Not all foreign investments/ foreign development initiatives benefits Africa as the devil is in the details and agreements.

I just hope what ever arrangements made in this space is made in such a way that there technology transfer and there is research and development the Nigerian people are involved in a high level in at least equal but majority level. Because these guys are used to taking advantages of countries they seem not up to level.

No one has made mention of the plenty minerals we have they are interested in as they always prefer to conceal the minerals.... Why have they not mentioned Uranium and other radioactive resources we have, rare earth, the classic bauxite, tin, steel and all. Where the current map which should the depth and new discoveries so far.

No one talks about the Uranium we have, Burkina faso is so fortunate to have a leader who protects his own country's interest and sovereignty, just like America does for its own but hear we are selling our future before it even matures MAKING SURE our future/children suffer, slave not just that but in the midst of their own plenty. Who is going to make sure the accounting of every gram of not just the Uranium we have, other resources are sold for true market price, accounted for and fund reinjected for the state making sure every citizen benefits from the earning that accrue in the fairest way possible?
Smh


Why everything so shadowy?

Details of these agreements nko?


Nigerians save yourself from extremely sadistic, slavery-intent, manipulative, brain-dead and outrightly stupid deals/agreements/foreign investments. Make mutually beneficial ones (ensuring citizens of all strata especially lowest feel the improvements). These guys will robb you especially if your representative heads are compromised, soft or for some reason unable to hold the interest and soverenty of Nigerians above personal or smaller scoped gains.


Save yourselves from people that are bent on keeping you "Global south" break that devilish heirarchy' and be self determinant steer your future rightly, build it, make it. They don't really care about you out there because they will be the same people to disrespect you after buying you extremely valuable resources to develop their countries using unfair financial policies that effectively restricts or block your own transactions, then chase you out of their countries after working your butt off paying their tax and getting the best of your intellect in use in their climes and yet say you have countributed nothing.


Have sense for once and freaking hold ALL your leaders representing you at every level all the hard questions do not settle for useless answers.

Audit everything and build leaders who show true accountability.

Have your own systems your own answers to your problems whether local or global through YOUR OWN UNIQUE lens and perspective . Actively breaks senseless and blind dependency on external or outside country supply why chain yourself when you have what you need?

Provide your own solutions and answers such that if ever foreign dependencies are threatened by the games the play out there, you cannot be stranded neither can you country operations be halted.




Don't forget our currency has always been more valuable. It was than the pound. It is still valuable. The nonsense you experience right now is because someone entity is actual keeping you there, find out that entity and enforce your will. It is nobody else than yourselves. Rule you and every other thing becomes secondary.

I don't understand... Does this mean their deaths were cheaper than the risk of exposure?

To compare AVERAGELY to these countries, Nigerian's minimum wage is meant to be NGN 1.5 million to NGN 2.1 million per month

Or

The price of fuel is meant to be NGN 53 per litre.

According to the calculations.

DataDoc:
Since we want to compare, look at this:

The U.S. federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour equals about $1,257 per month for a full-time worker.

We're talking of over 1.2 Million Naira equivalent.


WHAT IS MINIMUM WAGE IN NIGERIA?

NONSEMSE!!!

I think your wage calculation might be lower.





I find that people usually stop their research at what the fuel prices in these other countries especially the countries in the same petroleum output class as Nigeria without determining what our minimum wage or the fuel price should be else they would probably be more assertive.




When I did the research, infact, simply tell AI to do it, Even as I averaged it with a few non petroleum producing countries and curtailing the Libyan data point and without including Iran, I ended up with NGN 1.8 m as what needs to be the minimum wage else the fuel price should be NGN 53 if we are to compare AVERAGELY to the cross section of these countries in our class.

There are a lot of things AI replaced easily, the question is not AI itself, just like any other tool, whether ink, pen and paper, the check and balances have to be adequate to server voting needs, correctly applied.

Because, computing errors are more auditable and have better records than humans that is exactly why they should be used and they can be cheaper, even when not cheap are much more economical, reducing errors and where they exist make it more trackable, reducing logistical expenditure and scalability.

Use financial institutions to force professionalism in the space...

Use financial instruments like bank guarantees to force work milestone with proof and documentation to booth else no payments.

If one has to order for things like this to be done, then that is a point of system failure imo as far as waste management is concerned.

These things ought to be well organized, planned for and administrated well. It has to be system-thought out with r&d to boost kpi levels as well.

TUANKU:
Opay has been running this feature for over a year now, others need to play catch up.

I have a theory that it is exactly because of that efficiency that Opay has exhibited that has made them sit up... I can imagine they can see the liquidity controlled by Opay due to market reliance on that feature... So much that they have made so much money but unfortunately decided to use all that profit generated from Nigeria to invest into banking in middle tier countries, I think, Hong Kong might be involved.

Kobojunkie:
I am not interested in time wasters.

Apparently, arguments beyond your capacity to see reason is time-wasting, it makes sense, not everyone assimilates truth/fact right away, it takes time for some, sometimes. There is still hope you will come about this topic much more sensibly in future, maybe then you will understand better.

I'm my opinion, what I can deduce from your take is confusing territorialism/territoriality with right to movement.

Kobojunkie:
What does a baby or the freezing of one in place have to do with a discussion on illegal migration?

That you can't see the connection is a huge betrayal.

Kobojunkie:
I asked you a question. You claim you have a right bestowed on you by nature to move anywhere you like. I want to know how nature goes about that so that your right is never violated, or if it is, that you are defended?

Telling me about settlements is trying to shove gobbledegook at me.

Start by producing a law to enforce freezing a baby in place right after birth if that makes sense to you...

A myriad of examples exists for you in the natural environment to borrow knowledge from yet you want gobbledegook.

Start from first principles can't be spoon-feed beyond that.

Kobojunkie:
Nature? Where is this nature, and how does it go about defending this supposed right that you claim you have by it? Say you are trying to move to China or Saudi Arabia. How does Nature ensure that your right of movement is not violated when you do?

Go study settlements over the ages and answer those questions for settlers that moved or expanded into other territories, and I am especially referring to the non-aggressive ones., the more trade-based or skill/exchange-based ones.


Or better still, let's do a 101, produce and enforce a law to freeze a baby in place right after birth let's see.

Kobojunkie:
What is the foundation of this right that you claim?

Natural law, law of nature.

It is not even a claim, it is what is.


Tinker it from first principles and see how absurd it sounds that one can't move. It is also ok for natural populations to protect their living space but that does not take away right of movement.

Kobojunkie:
I disagree! Cambodia recently decided it no longer wanted foreigners from African nations coming in, a decision it likely made with its people in mind. We heard nothing of xenophobia from the mouths of Africans. So, tell me why South Africans are not allowed to no longer want foreigners from other African nations coming in?

Migration has always been a privilege, not a right.

I disagree, a human has the fundamental human right of movement.

If animals can migrate how much more humans, that have been doing that since ages.

Somebody says it could be worse. That person fit drop from grass enter bush, lols 😂

Nicotine is said to be a very useful drug. Like all things, dosage matters, so one doesn't die or suffer from excesses.

I don't really understand the stigma being referred to by Op because, I mean, what will you now do about tobacco scented fragrances or perfumes/parfumes. And tobacco is natural and has been used as herb since time immemorial even hemp. We have had our natural ways of their use in medicine and food since ages ago.

I am genuinely drawn to the tobacco scent naturally, but never smoked in my life yet, do not intend to.

I also enjoy a wide array of other scents, like the citrus based, musk, or wood scents, fruity scents, water/aqua, then there's earthy or like foresty kinda scent that smells like herbal scent that has that healing scent as if you are in the middle of a forest having strong vegetative smell that's pleasant, or you just cooked food with delicious nutritious leaves...

There's the earthy smell, some smell like a particular rock, or the smell of first rain quenching the thirst of the dry season beat earth...

When the bullet he is referring to today was but a low-class catapult projectile, which would have been much more tolerable during Jonathan, didn't he contribute to stop it though?

Pemisire2020:
You dy mind ham
Very nonsensical saying that’s not related at all 😂😂😂

Lols, and here I am being optimistic it could be a proverb with an additional coded layer, which is possible btw.

But if were to analyze it a bit, the last part alone kinda renders the significance of the elephant, the coconut oil and the atm largely redundant because I don't think meat is ever found, sorry, sold at the pharmacy usually. No body should be buying meat there except if said proprietorship doubles in both business where I personally think it's unlikely, especially when both environs can run the risk of cross contamination.

I dot even know why I have spend so much time on this guy's saying, something he probably just spat out randomly like the nollywood actor that incorporates " romancia mamiwater" in his similar proverbs 😂

On a lighter note... It must be art because he just want to paint pictures in our minds canvas, any picture... You like the ones some of those weird artists say describe something abstract, lols

OgThanos:
The elephant that swims in coconut oil does not use ATM to buy meat at the pharmacy.”

Is that because it will slip from its trunk or how far will this complex or seemingly difficult to relate logic go... I'm invested in this journey... Small proverb abi idiomatic sentence and I'm already in the middle of the ocean for trying to follow it 🤣

koladata:
Thanks boss , please who are these PEBEC and how do i contact cbn , its going to a year already and this bank is just confortably using my money, I've decided to keep silent about it because i just felt , its still my money anyway and one day ill get it back but its taking too long

https://www.pebec.gov.ng/
The PEBEC Secretariat is committed to removing bureaucratic and legislative constraints to doing business and improving the ease of doing business in Nigeria.

Make the complaints here: https://www.pebec.gov.ng/reportgov-ng

You may want to get CBN's resolutions department contact email directly from their site if to copy them when you send mails.

koladata:
Sterling bank is still with my entire savings going to a year now, anything you do in this life, please don't use sterling bank

Use the PEBEC platform to report them. Choosing the relevant authority behind your perceived injustice. I believe that should be CBN. I strongly recommend you attach or at least have evidence you can show should it be called form strong evidence admissible in the court of law o, not word of mouth, things like formal documents, bank statements, receipts.

This is another reason you should bulk whenever you ask for receipt for any transaction and the seller, or government representative whether police or tax official dismiss that...

Nobody can prove cash, so always insist strongly on receipts and keep them for these eventualities because at some point they will happen.


This is one of the effective ways one strangle thieves on their way to eat one alive... You don't even have to win, at the very least make is very costly for them to have when they obviously refuse to do the right thing.


This is how you bring order.

Make them accountable.


Even after the reporting with PEBEC, keep that evidence of reporting to PEBEC also should their be a full blown court action. Keep it safe ahead of time.

Babaken:
simple

What is simple about what is fundamentally a crime based on our constitution and law?


Or you believe the shakey rule of cultist associated interaction than structure for law and order?

That's how people will kill people and say just tag him cultist and people like you will believe surface level side talk than to treat the crime the way all crime is meant to be treated.


The system is what is to be relied on to treat all cases of social injustices, not opinions that does not absolve the crime and frankly is a weak cover and susceptibility to criminal intentions.

PlasmaTV:
It's your president that's funny. Eat your corn in peace and stop trying to gaslight Nigerians.

BAT is a failure.

You just reminded me about corn.
Corn is so pricey it's not even funny... I can't even afford it. Each year since when he promised to make food cheap, I have been get less corn and less corn... And now the roast maize seller is having her price at NGN 500 min for one measly below average corn cob.


Also for context, it is not a luxury environment.... Just a normal commercial centre... Smh

Kaczynski:
Game devs is for kids and overgrown babies. People with bills to pay don't do game dev.

Tell that to calibrators of Unmanned weapon platforms deployed in real life or flight simulators among other serious dev and exploration applications.

On the last year of your administrative reign "you will" still?

Do you guys see these guys just throw "we will" and our passive people just accept we will after suffering all through their most considerable part of their living years on earth.


Life's hard naturally but Nigeria leadership doesn't seem to understand that giving hope and promising is not the same as actually doing it, executing the task and responsibilities tied to the office and learning, adjusting, absorbing frank feedback to improve the system.


Keep saying "you will". You guys are still giving campaign type speech when you are right at the position and power to make that change.

"We will" on the last annual cycle of your reign, wtf kinda sh* is that?

biggy00000:
When you leave the shores of Nig and you experience stable network, you will get more pissed at infrastructures.
Someone will say cost, but I can tell you that it's more affordable than you think

It has always been apparent that such services are much cheaper over there... Those who say it is expensive only say that because they are comparing just the nominal value using a single currency as baseline... When you ask them to consider the wages, income and salaries that come in to the average person there compared to the expense they make on the said service those with good understanding will see it is obvious...

We haven't even talked about the fact that some time those packages come along side with other features as a combo for the price of one... like getting internet, tv and phone all at once... with great speed and a high rate of availability...

ceragon123:
Having worked as a field maintenance engineer in Nigerian Telecom sector, I want to say it here that we are doomed!

Nigeria system thinks it can sow orange and reap apple. Impossible!

You cannot subject people to low pay and inhumane treatment and expect the best. Never!

The office guys seat in comfort and bark orders to field engineers who drive themselves with little pay and still expect them to do magic even with poor coverage. Rubbish!

We want to have the best of network yet we still want to behave like Nigerians and reap without working for it.


Been on the hunt for a good paying remote job. I am already making plans to borrow money to buy starlink.

Even if you park to Efab Metropolis in Abuja or Lekki in Lagos, so you can use the new reliable neighborhood LAN, the network will destroy all your effort when you least expect.

Go for Starlink. Period!

Was actually looking to switch jobs towards upwards mobility experience-wise and of course pay-wise as well... Lookup one internet company like that, I couldn't phantom the level of low pay reviews I saw lols... and their base is at high brow section of Lagos where everything from transport, accommodation, feeding etc is a more than the average...