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Romance › Re: A Brother Needs An Advice. by zoghys: 10:29am On Oct 18
ManLikeL:
Brothers, What Will You Advise a Brother?

I'm currently confused about my relationship journey.

I haven't really been the type to consider a serious relationship for a while now. It's just been a couple of sex partners here and there. We do it safely and keep things on a superficial level.

Now, recently, there have been demands and questions here and there about starting a family, especially considering that my immediate junior brother is done having children. His lastborn will be three next month, while the lastborn of my family is also done having kids. Her firstborn is already 10 years old.

I seem to be the only odd one out in this regard, even though I'm arguably more financially settled than all of them. Not to brag, please; I'm just trying to paint a clearer picture of the situation.

I clocked 35 in May, and it was as if everyone in the universe agreed to centre their birthday wishes around God providing me with a wife and family. Ever since then, the reminders from my folks have been pretty loud, persistent, and disturbing.

For the first time in years, I decided to seek a proper relationship, unlike my usual superficial flings and sexcapades.

Come to think of it, I can barely go three days without proper sex. This detail should be useful later.

I met this very beautiful babe from my state. She's 27, a first-class graduate (I am too, actually), and I'm naturally attracted to every facet of intelligence, especially communicative and academic intelligence. She has both, and I'm superbly into her.

She can hold a very reasonable conversation without leaving you mentally exhausted. She's become an integral part of my life, and at this point, I think it's safe to say I'm deeply attracted to her and genuinely like her.

Worthy of note is the fact that I've enjoyed a very unusual level of peace with her over the past three months, which is absolutely unlike me.

I get correct anger ish, although I've learnt to manage it well. I'm not a violent person, but I pick offences easily, and most times, I walk away when provocations get too loud. More often than not, my walking away is goodbye. I'm so good at it.

But since meeting this babe, we've not had any ugly disagreements over these past few months. She's very calm, calculated, and receptive. These qualities have made me like her even more.

She has a reasonably good-paying job, but that's not even an issue. I earn well enough to cater for everything, but she's also financially independent. Gifting seems to be her thing, too, as she's spent quite a sum on gifts for me without expecting anything in return. I haven't even matched up to a quarter of what she's spent on gifting though.

For the first time in my life, I agreed to a no-sex-before-marriage relationship because she's a virgin.

I still dey run my games on a low, so this didn't really look like an ish.

Here lies the rub.

Just last week, she said she had a confession to make, and she opened up about being SS. Mind you, I'm AA, so, by the usual norms, this shouldn't be an issue.

But during one of our previous conversations, she had claimed to be AS and asked if I would be comfortable settling down with someone who was SS. I almost freaked out.

I'm sorry, but I've always wanted to have AA kids. With apologies to those affected, I've always believed that if I ever have children, I owe them the best possible chances at life, including heightened intelligence, beauty, and a sound genotype. I believe I have a reasonable degree of control over who complements my genes to bring these qualities to fruition.

I'm honestly very good-looking and intelligent, so why not get someone who possesses these qualities, too?

Call it insipid or vapid, but I could swear that life has already dealt some people heavy blows by limiting their options in their quest for a future partner. Unlike those of us with AA genotypes, who can consider partners across all the common genotypes without the same risk of having children with sickle cell disease, they don't always have that freedom. I wanted my kids to have that freedom and an avalanche of options, too.

So, when she asked me that question, I sincerely freaked out and couldn't hide my disdain.

This, in turn, stopped her from opening up until last week, when she could no longer hide it.

Funnily enough, I already like her to the point where I don't mind if she's SS, BB, or iPhone. undecided

But the fact that she lied is what actually turned out to be my ish. She's been a very straightforward person so far, and this particular issue has upset our fashioned norms.

I proposed that the no-sex-before-marriage agreement should be off if we were going to be together, and she agreed. But now, I'm beginning to think it might look as though I'm trying to take advantage of her at this point.

Brothers, what will you advise a brother?
Am I being unreasonable?
Considering the emotional supports people with SS need, how challenging can it be? What is the possibility that she lives long enough?

All insults, curses, and whatever are welcome.
T for grateful.
Well if she's on NL,the she should know she just opened a whole lot of dicking for herself grin. Anyway, on a serious note, I will advice you consult a medical practitioner for advice, and if it's okay with you, then go ahead and be happy together because you both deserve maximum happiness. Iree oooo
Crime › Re: Man Of God With 75 Wifes by zoghys: 10:16am On Oct 18
KayB:
*THE FOOLISHNESS CALLED BLIND FOLLOWERSHIP: HOW PASTOR ANAZODO MARRIED 75 WOMEN AND THEIR HUSBANDS WERE CLAPPING FOR HIM*

By Akwaa Akwuru Umuobom

His name is Pastor Anazodo. Founder and General Overseer of Day Spring Assembly, Anambra State.

In June 2026, police arrested him.

His crime? He forcefully married 75 female members of his own church. Not single girls alone. Married women. Women with husbands. He collected people's wives as if he was collecting offering.

He did not stop there. He married a mother and her own daughter. Same man married mother and child. He was also sleeping with underage girls in the church.

Apart from wife snatching, he introduced wife swapping. You will come to Sunday service with your beautiful wife, and before you go home, pastor will say, "God said you should exchange. Your wife is now his wife, his wife is now your wife." And you will obey.

Yesterday, 5th October, this same man appeared in court in a wheelchair, forming sick man, begging for bail on health grounds. Judge looked at him and said, "No bail. Go back to cell."

But here is the real wonders that shall never end:

*Despite all these, people were still going to his church.*

Let that sink into your head.

A man who married 75 women, including your own wife, and you are still going to his church every Sunday. You are still paying tithe. You are still shouting "Daddy! Daddy!"

Even the men whose wives he snatched were still attending. They were still defending him.

If that is not foolishness, what is foolishness?

*THIS IS THE IDIOCY OF BLIND RELIGION FOLLOWERSHIP*

This is what blind followership does to a human being. It removes your brain and replaces it with sawdust.

Before religion molests you physically, it first molests you mentally. It strips you naked in your mind before it strips you naked in body.

A normal man, with normal senses, cannot watch another man sleep with his wife in the name of anointing and still call him "man of God." It is not possible, unless his senses have been removed.

Religion followership in Nigeria has become idiocy:

- Pastor says bring your wife, you bring.
- Pastor says bring your daughter, you bring.
- Pastor says bring your house documents, you bring.
- Pastor says divorce your husband and marry me, you obey.

And when someone outside tries to tell you, "Open your eyes, this man is using you," you will be the first to stone that person. You will say, "Touch not my anointed."

This is how foolish religion has made many Nigerians.

We don't go to church to worship God again. We go to worship a man in suit. We go to worship a man who cannot even defend his own atrocities in court without wheelchair.

Pastor Anazodo married 75 women. 75! And their husbands were still in the choir singing. What is more foolish than that?

If pastor can tell you that God said you should give him your wife, and you agree, then pastor can tell you to drink poison and you will drink it.

That is not faith. That is foolishness. That is mental slavery.

And the worst part is, these followers don't know they are fools. They think they are faithful. They think they are loyal. They don't know that faithfulness without sense is just foolishness.

May our eyes open.

*Akwaa Akwuru Umuobom*
You've coined it for what it is religious idiocy. By definition serving men in suit, rather than serving God in the place of worship.
Crime › Re: Gonocide:video Of Rev.dachomo Crying Inside The Grave While Burying Members by zoghys: 9:15am On Oct 18
CyynthiaKiss:
Islamic terrorists are threat to Nigerian Christians

Bola and his supporters are terrorist enablers.
Unfortunately you're right, so also are they threat to Muslim community who don't believe in their delusional brand of Islam. The president has no answer to all of these because he's surrounded by terrorists enablers who do not only profit from the misfortune of others but in their devilish mind they are fighting Allah's course, which more and more is looking like a curse.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Attends An Event In Lagos (Video) by zoghys: 8:57am On Oct 18
LagosOrigin:
He rests when he can
I believe you
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Attends An Event In Lagos (Video) by zoghys: 8:30am On Oct 18
LagosOrigin:
Who God has blessed, no lies or propaganda from tinubu APC can bring him down.

Peter Obi attended a high level event in ilorin Kwara state and the reception he received was like that of a prince who just returned from America to the welcoming arms of his people with love.

Governor Seyi makinde, Abike dabiri, bukola saraki, Toyin saraki, kayode fayemi, Timi alaibe, traditional and religious leaders present at the event all warmly welcomed Peter Obi and took photos with him.

Massive Love ❤️ 💜

Some of the Imams and alfas offered Islamic prayers to Peter Obi and took pictures themselves as a sign of true love that they have for they next president of Nigeria, Mr Peter Obi.

Infact, Mr Peter Obi was the Star Boy of the event. The love was so much that people left there tables with there camera in the hands to snap with the God favourite politician and next president of Nigeria 2027, Mr Peter Gregory Obi.


See photos below 👇

https://www.threads.com/@ipayewilliam/post/DenFLzKFbAM?xmt=AQG0gorbBLswVIX7Lk0pWTU23aW_xKQVglomGkQtn10ccjCWt-56iCgJJlIsTFg1Ein99dU&slof=1

Nlfpmod Nlfpmod
Abeg, when this man dey rest. Anyway, he's making himself available to the people which is nice in my opinion but then his supporters are so unruly and will attack at every criticism.
Health › Re: My Boils Are Gone by zoghys: 8:09am On Oct 18
sbfynest:
Good day my beloved nairalanders....

I want to use this medium to say a very big thank you for all your contributions and concern during my almost 3 weeks battle with boils......I finally won

It was not easy for me at all, but thank God they are gone..I used several remedies I got from here, starting from roasted plantain leaves,palm oil and salt, applying raw beans, damatol and so on..
I can now sleep and walk freely

Honestly,dis experience taught me never to look down or underrate any body/nairalanders for you don't know were your help might comes from..

ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU ALL
That's a good one to read, and nice from from our doctors without borders in the house, God bless u all.
Celebrities › Re: Jide Kosoko Dismisses Hunger In The Land, Speaks On Tinubu Administration by zoghys: 8:07am On Oct 18
treesun:
“Things are not as bad as some people made you to understand….

Before tinubu came, what were they eating?….”

— Actor Jide Kosoko dismisses hunger in the land, mocks hungry citizens.


Baba, just lost my respect. Am not really concern about individual choice of candidate for the presidency as everyone constitutionally has option, but stating what we all know not be the true from such an household name is disappointing and unexpected. If celebrity like uncle hide can't say the truth to the sit of power then we are in bigger trouble than I initially thought.
Pets › Re: Woman Decided To Protect The Dog Over Her Son by zoghys: 7:59am On Oct 18
Immatex:
No, you are not necessarily right in your conclusion.

Her baby was not being attacked by the bigger dog, it was the little puppy that came under attack. Her baby was relatively safe inside the pram.

She acted in the best possible way given the circumstance and protecting the little dog was best way to go.
Yes, you're right. I just watched the video and the woman did the right thing.
Politics › Re: Fitch Turns Positive On Nigeria, Crowning Tinubu’s Economic Turnaround by zoghys: 7:17am On Oct 18
Buccalcavity2:
Get some education and stop the lamentation of Jeremiah! Every economic development is preceded by economic growth, ECO 101.
Experts, including Brentwood institutions have attested to Nigerias economic growth. Only wailers are blind. They will not suddenly stop being objective and independent due to your parochial political leaning!
Tinubu made lagos bad...yenyenyen...yet lagos is the most developed, among other states in the 4th republic by most metrics. Yet most states, even some countries, copy policies from LASG...
I wasn't going to dignify you with a reply before but I later realize you actually need education on reality. Your growth index today is high today because of the floating of naira and some reform by the CBN. The cost of running your government of geographical space of less than one million km square of about 469 federal law makers compared to united state of more than 9million km square of about 535 federal law makers is simply unrealistic. U don't grow an economy exponentially in this sort of way without resulting to more borrowing especially now that we have over 1200 agencies to cater for in our budget. A real leader of substance will care of his people which is the masses because they form the country, but your darling Tinubu can't and won't because impoverishing them is power and so as many politicians in this country. Your took of the subsidy without a proper study of the effect it will have on the cost of living of the people you serve or "who serve you", increase the cost of basic government responsibilities to its citizens, example education, healthcare in government hospitals among others, take away money from the poor in form of tax while the rich who suppose to pay more are either stuck in the same tax regime as the poor or pay a paltry more. You can read your Brentwood or whatever institute report for all I care but if those lofty report doesn't transend in the lives of the masses then the yenyenyen is for you and your principal, Mr Tinubu.
Crime › Re: 7 Christians Killed In Plateau By Fulani Militia (Video)) by zoghys: 10:01pm On Oct 17
CyynthiaKiss:
/video/1?s=46
If this government won't protect the lives of citizens I support self help with all my heart. Why will some militia who ever they maybe just slaughter people like chicken and go Scot free. The Christian body should do more than pray, it's time to act. No ethnicity or religion has monopoly of madness. In truth sharing geographical space with some animals in human skin is a curse.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Begs Iran To Allow Him Bomb Them As Symbolic Victory Ahead Of Midterms by zoghys: 8:41pm On Oct 17
FSBoperator:
I saw the thread here of the US threatening to drop MOAB munitions over Iran and just laughed it off.

Why?

MOAB are the heaviest conventional ordinances and require low flying C130 heavy lifting aircraft to drop them over a target.

The US has no means to drop MOAB ordinance over Iran using C130 capable aircrafts because Iranian AD systems will easily lock-on and blow it off the sky the minute their radar system tracks its flight path towards Iranian airspace.

So I wasn't shocked to just read that Trump admin had reached out to the Iranians to allow the US drop off some MOAB bombs in the middle of bumfuck nowhere on the Iranian mountain side so that Trump can use the video of such large ordinance explosions over empty mountainous regions as propaganda in the upcoming midterm elections.

The Iranians told Trump to fck off and that they won't be part of his deception on American voters.
Am not a Trump fan, not even a bit but what you posted there is just preposterous.
Politics › Re: 2027: Unite Behind Atiku To Defeat Tinubu, Shelle Tells Opposition Parties by zoghys: 6:10pm On Oct 17
hisexcellency34:
By Temidayo Akinsuyi



https://independent.ng/2027-unite-behind-atiku-to-defeat-tinubu-shelle-tells-opposition-parties/
United behind a bigger thief to defeat a thief, impossican"t. I will rather vote Sowore than consider Atiku.
Politics › Re: Buhari Offered To Support Osinbajo’s Presidential Bid Four Times — Akande by zoghys: 6:03pm On Oct 17
IamPatriotic:
Cheap liar! Not only 4 times, but “40 times before the cock crows.” I thought they said Laolu Akande is a pastor in RCCG. Why does he have to continue lying, even after leaving his job as a spokesperson for a politician, where lies are normal as part of the job of a great spokesperson?
I guess you were there as well to know better than, Mr Laolu
Politics › Re: Bola Ahmed Tinubu Barracks Takes Shape With Modern Accommodation Facilities by zoghys: 5:09pm On Oct 17
HacheNoire:
God bless the Nigerian Armed Forces!

God bless The Demigod- His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)
Your demigod I presume. That's tax payers money in action, though accolades to him for the laudable project.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Woman, Liyatu Samuel Dawa, Jailed For 14 Years For Sharing Her Faith by zoghys: 3:40pm On Oct 17
CorrectionFLuid:
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I mentioned you because you were quick to preach tolerance when someone pointed out the correlation between Islam and violence.

I have a lot to say to this particularly ultra-weak argument but then, I had quoted you to condemn intolerance when it's perpetrated by Muslims, I have also called you out on this thread, I will call you out again next time such a thread comes up, which you and I know wouldn't be a long time.

And neither you nor those "exceptionally good muslims" you claimed to know will condemn Islamic intolerance.

Peace out for now.
Keep acting smart when it's obvious it's the other way round. Any right thinking human being will condemn evil v regardless of religion belief or color .Any Islamic cleric that encourages violence on another person because of his religious believes has forfeited his right to live among normal human being and so also any Christian cleric. The simple fact that an Islamophobic like you who has no Islamic tolerance and see nothing good about the religion is condemning your likes in Islam who see nothing good about Christianity is telling. Lest, I forget, call me out thousands time and you will get a reply a million times. Ire oooo
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Woman, Liyatu Samuel Dawa, Jailed For 14 Years For Sharing Her Faith by zoghys: 1:36pm On Oct 17
CorrectionFLuid:
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But you will remember to quickly quote someone who condemns the religion that promotes these barbaric acts.

It's quite ironic that you're preaching tolerance to me, a non Muslim, right inside a thread where Muslims have shown intolerance without condemnation from you and your ilks.

You need the cure more than me buddy.
It's either you don't read good or just want to be mischievous. Firstly, I don't do religion stuff because I believe nobody can fight for God at least my own God. Secondly, every evil should be condemn irrespective of the religion that perpetrate it. Thirdly,, I called you out because u have tagged me in your comment for whatever reason best known to you. Lastly, am not a Muslim so attaching me to one because i mentioned that your phobia of other people's religion especially Islam stinks is simply nauseating.
Celebrities › Re: Tenia Abraham's Cryptic Final Post Before Her Death by zoghys: 12:14pm On Oct 17
May her soul rest in peace. Such a beauty and brain lost a very young age.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Woman, Liyatu Samuel Dawa, Jailed For 14 Years For Sharing Her Faith by zoghys: 10:43am On Oct 17
CorrectionFLuid:
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Aaaaand, you still didn't condemn this.

Quoting a long post which I didn't read, just to mention me and cry over being banned, still does not translate to condemning this archaic despicable religion sanctioned wickedness.

Where are your good Muslims? Cos I don't see any throughout this thread.
I didn't post so you could read because you're inconsequential to the post or me. Fear and tolerance of other people's religion is a disease, try and get cured.
Politics › Re: Fitch Turns Positive On Nigeria, Crowning Tinubu’s Economic Turnaround by zoghys: 8:48am On Oct 17
Josepholome:
Africa’s most populous nation emerges as one of the continent’s strongest reform stories

Nigeria has taken a decisive step back into the good graces of international investors.

On 9 October, Fitch Ratings revised the country’s outlook to positive and affirmed its “B” rating, signalling that an upgrade could follow. The decision is a strong endorsement of the economic strategy pursued by President Bola Tinubu since 2023. Fitch cites the reform of the country’s policy framework, the strengthening of its external buffers and its growing confidence that the reform course will continue beyond the 2027 elections.

From Crisis To Resilience

The scale of the turnaround is remarkable. When President Tinubu took office, Nigeria was struggling with multiple exchange rates, a fuel subsidy draining public finances and a severe shortage of foreign currency. He chose to tackle them head-on.

Three years later, gross foreign reserves have reached $54.9 billion, up from $32 billion in April 2024. Net reserves, according to the Central Bank, have jumped from about $4 billion at the end of 2023 to $34.8 billion at the end of 2025. Fitch also stresses the improved quality of these reserves, which it says strengthens Nigeria’s resilience to external shocks. The current account surplus is expected to reach 6.4% of GDP this year.

On several key indicators, Nigeria now stands out among countries with the same rating. Its public debt should average around 32% of GDP over 2026-2028, against a median of 56% for its peers. Its reserve coverage, expected at 6.3 months of external payments at the end of 2026, should remain above peer levels through 2028. Inflation, meanwhile, is set to fall to an average of 15.4% this year, less than half its 2024 level, thanks to a stable naira and a disciplined monetary policy.

Fitch forecasts growth of 4.3% in 2026, rising from 4% in 2025, and above 4% in 2027 and 2028, increasingly powered by the non-oil economy. The energy sector is contributing too: oil output has met Nigeria’s OPEC target since May, while the giant Dangote refinery is reducing the country’s dependence on imported fuel. The banking sector has also been transformed: almost all Nigerian banks have raised fresh capital to meet new requirements, and many now hold capital ratios above 20%, giving them substantial room to fund business growth.

A Signal For The Continent

For investors comparing opportunities across Africa, Fitch’s decision sends a clear message: the continent’s most populous market is once again a credible destination. Nigeria’s experience also shows that bold reforms, implemented early and pursued consistently, can restore confidence in a matter of years.

The government now aims to consolidate these gains, notably through a tax reform expected to lift non-oil revenue to 7.5% of GDP. Fitch has made clear that sustained progress on inflation, reserves and revenue could lead to an upgrade.

For President Tinubu, the message from one of the world’s most closely watched rating agencies is unambiguous: the reforms are working.


https://allafrica.com/stories/202610160253.html
You're in the good books of international investors while the people you represent die of hunger. Tinubu fixation with international community is nauseating especially when it is at the mercy of the people. He did the same nonsense in Lagos state and so many naive citizens called it development. How many lagosian can afford Eko Atlantic today or even banana Island. He separated the rich from the poor and gave untold wealth "CORRUPTLY"to civil servant here in Lagos, especially in some departments all in the name of development. The creation of LG development area in Lagos is not constitutionally backed, yet it is still in effect up till today all in the name of development. He multiplied the revenue of Lagos state just so that he and his associates can corruptly enrich himself and by extension achieve his purpose of ascending the highest sit in the country. Mr Tinubu remember life is not forever, stop this schenigans all in the name of paper acceptance by some international community whose purpose is to take and take more from this country. Help the masses, do the needful, heal the land, take decision that affect the lives of your people and see this as an opportunity to correct your many wrongs. Once again, remember life is only but a while and we will report back to the Almighty one day.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Woman, Liyatu Samuel Dawa, Jailed For 14 Years For Sharing Her Faith by zoghys: 8:12am On Oct 17
CorrectionFLuid:
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Dear zoghys, don't see this and look away.

Condemn this, and call your amazingly good Muslims to condemn this too. And if this blows up to become a sensational 50 Muslim SANs issue, don't just look and go.

Peace.
Can see the truth even when it's staring at you?. You too consumed in your Islamophobic world to realize all evil irrespective of religion is evil and should be condemned.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Happens When You Read The 6th And 7th Books Of Moses? by zoghys: 7:42am On Oct 17
Kobojunkie:
There is no book on earth that would cause you such nonsense! Africans use such lies to cover their ignorance and to keep others equally ignorant. Also, the books in question which were written in the 1800/1900s and have nothing to do with truth or reality. 😒😒
Don't be too sure, the books actually exist and I personally have seen it been used. It's diabolical and shouldn't be encouraged.
Health › Re: Toluwanisings: God Is Not A Killer, Poor Health System Killed Him by zoghys: 5:18pm On Oct 16
tobenuel:
I feel you @op. But slow down your emotions
He sated the obvious, many people have died today in this country because of our shambolic health system.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Man & Woman Executed For Sexual Acts Inside A Saudi Arabian Mosque (Photos) by zoghys: 2:51pm On Oct 16
Leemzyy:
Oh please they should spare the Woman....the man should pay for everything, he probably deceived her...Men!😣😞😞
Men, don really do you shege.
Politics › Re: Tinubu Clearing Up Mess You Left in Nigeria Airways! - Keyamo Blasts Atiku by zoghys: 2:00pm On Oct 16
soccerlite:
Even in your miserable old age as you near grave, you still dey conjure propaganda lies and innuendos

Shame!!

53 suitcase ko
Atiku as vp carry all nigeria money and put in his pocket only him

where did other contestants get money
Even in your young miserable age that you won't see the old age, you still defend corruption, lies and challantancy.
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Is A Thief Who Siphoned Anambra Money For His Family Business- Umahi by zoghys: 12:23pm On Oct 16
AsomughaChuks02:
Minister of works Engr David Umahi has criticized Peter Obi for prioritizing the stealing of Anambra money into his bank to finance his family business over repair of the bad roads that kept the state comatose. The minister condemned Obi while praising the current Anambra governor Professor Chukwuma Soludo for constructing roads in Agulu, Peter Obi's hometown which Obi failed to do during his tenure.

Umahi stated this today during the reopening ceremony for the first Niger bridge.
Thief dey call another thief, ole.
Crime › Re: Eight Nigerians Arrested In Anti-narcotics Operation In Ghana (photos) by zoghys: 9:02am On Oct 16
Peterobiisathie:
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https://www.facebook.com/100064435882759/posts/pfbid0prLVvaPqnKpQPYfXJtc17JdJPaUEpeNfU8pw4PrSDGVyCG7NdnN5YPGZRCsPf3f1l/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Those miscreants should be thrown inside jail for a long time. How can you leave your own country just to sell drugs in another country and you call that hussle.
Celebrities › Re: Bimbo Akintola: Why I Am Single And Childless At 52 by zoghys: 8:54am On Oct 16

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