tpia@:
wheat and tares.

Image123:
I strongly believe that everything Jesus said in parable must have happened somewhere sometime. This is a strong possibility. i hold this position for different reasons but i will mention two. First reason being that Jesus will not lie.

Image123:
So, since its JUST a parable, what is wrong with a parable?

Image123:
And is a parable a white lie of some kind?

Before you start saying that Jesus
will not lie, we need to know if
Jesus claimed that these events
happened somewhere. if he did
not what's ya own

If it serves its purpose there is
nothing wrong with it.

My brother i don't know. You have
to ask Jesus.
I remember you tendered some
parables as exhibits to support
your position somewhere and the
opposition fought hard to ensure
it was never admitted into
evidence e be like say you
never recover

Image123:
i hope you don't read the Bible the way you read my posts, selectively that is? or picking and choosing. Jesus will not tell a lie or you think He would? He is the Truth and i expect everything He says to be truth, do you? I don't wait for Him to claim "I'm saying the truth now oh" before I believe He always says truth.

Image123:
what's the purpose? if a lie is used to teach a lesson, does it further the gospel?

Image123:
you don't know if Jesus told a lie and i need to ask Jesus! Do you understand the implications of your statement in the light of being condemned or justified by your words? or you just think this is all about Image123 and I must go the opposite of what he says? please oblige me, i do not recall me tendering parables as exhibits on any thread. Do remind me of it please,

Image123: zikky,
Of all the parables of Jesus, is there anyone that cannot happen literally. If yes, which, and why?

Image123: this boy, you're just throwing loose assumptions around. The Samaritan is not an atheist. Secondly, you called the Samaritan good, not me. What is your criteria? Also, you just quoted me without answering the question in the quote?

Image123: it used to be outsiders, unbelievers, atheists that had something against God's Word and swore to tear it down like Voltaire. Today, the enemy has found his way into the fold. There's so much wolves in sheep clothing. They have no goal of bringing others to the Saviour but to themselves. They is no more self -effacing, just a cunning but vicious creeping in. Their mission is to destroy the Word of God. Their goal is to accuse everything. They have every excuse under the heavens to excuse themselves and others from the Word of God. Show them God's Word and what they want to deal with is translation issues and Greek and Hebrew lexicons. They know nothing of the spirit and simplicity that is in Christ. From translation, they delve into testament issues. And even when shown the light in the new testament, the excuse is that its just a symbol, metaphor or parable. Another specie of wolves go on about words before Jesus died and after, and about Jesus talking to Jews only, or Corinthians only. But the Word of God is alive and powerful, and sharper than any sword. There is nothing wrong with the Bible but you.

Logicboy03:


I answered your question.


The good Samaritan can not be a true story for any christian. It is christians that call the Samaritan "good" ,not me. I never said that the good Samaritan was na atheist

Now, Samariatans were not in good terms with Jews. They had their own religion- Samaritarianism. For Jesus to praise the Samaritan as loving his neighbour and the way to eternal life, this therefore shows that christianity is not necessary to be good or moral.

Image123:
christ is not necessary to be moral, but Christ is COMPULSORY to be good.

Logicboy03:

If moral = doing what is good,

then you just contradicted yourself.


Try again

Image123:
you can do what is good and not be good. my bad printer may manage printing a page but still remain unreliable for instance.

Image123:
christ is not necessary to be moral, but Christ is COMPULSORY to be good.

Logicboy03:

Fail

Nice try at your reductionist nonsense. This is what you said




To be moral and to be good are the same.

You cant be immoral and be good.

Image123:
you are yet to answer my question that you initially quoted.
BTW, to DO good is different from BEING good. Anybody can be moral. God created man with a spirit, and morality is simple proof that you have a spirit. To be good, hmmmm, there is none good. You have to COMPULSORILY go through Jesus to stand that chance.

Logicboy03:

Anonyism 101

Image123:
what? Answer my questions jare,you don hang again abi?

Of all the parables of Jesus, is there anyone that cannot happen literally. If yes, which, and why?

Logicboy03:


I give up!

brainpulse: A parable is [1] a succinct story, in prose or verse, which illustrates one or more instructive principles, or lessons, or (sometimes) a normative principle.
A parable is a short tale that illustrates universal truth, one of the simplest of narratives. It sketches a setting, describes an action, and shows the results. It often involves a character facing a moral dilemma, or making a questionable decision and then suffering the consequences. Though the meaning of a parable is often not explicitly stated, the meaning is not usually intended be hidden or secret but on the contrary quite straightforward and obvious
- WIKIPEDIA

I believe Jesus had to use Parables to drive in his point to his audience so that they will understand the context and truth he is trying to pass across. Secondly He understands by the wisdom of God that some of the words He speaks are beyond what the simple man can understand and had not seen before. Taking a look at all this parables he uses those normal and things they know and that happens every day in their society to explain what they don't know and cannot see, so making it difficult for them to doubt but can only believe or reject those messages.
If His Parables were lies and cannot be true or cannot happen, there is no reason for him to tell them because He will understand they will know He is not telling the truth and will get them confused the more. So all the Parables told by Christ might had happened or can happen or is happening at that present time.

Dont let us forget there are two wisdoms highlighted in the scriptures; The wisdom of God and the wisdom of this world.
And the two can not be same. The formal (wisdom of God) can explain the later but the wisdom of this world can never comprehend the Wisdom of God.

The wisdom of God is based on Faith,the Spirit of truth and reality, while the Wisdom of this world is based on mere reasoning and logic and only limited to this world.

So looking at the parables, Christ used the wisdom of God based on the fundanmentics of the truth to make an analogy of what is in this world and out of this world.

A parable doesnt have to be real. Parables are mostly stories used to explain a point. Anyway, you are free to believe that all Jesus's parables happened in real life. Afterall, you believe in the lies of the virgin birth and ressurection. Magic

I'm an atheist but the good Samaritan was EPIC. That was a good story. Unfortunately, the good Samaritan will end up in hell according to most christian preachers today

Image123:
not the thread opening fella but ithink there's a need to talk on this since the value of parables seems to be going down in the market. So, is a parable useless or falsehood?