frosbel:

okay , go back to bowing down before useless pieces of wood and stone , that's your choice.

Allow us worship our GOD.

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PAGAN 9JA:


yes thank you. i am sure you talk about the crusades. you must read this interesting book: "Holy Blood, Holy Grail". it talks about the merovingian dynasty and other secret xtian organizations pulling the strings from behind. the knight Godfrey de Bouillon especially has some special connections with these string of events and the foundation of these secretive orders.

onetrack:

The book you are talking about is a hoax. I'm an atheist but this book was written by people who have an axe to grind with the current British royal family, and they use this made-up claim about descent from Jesus to make their own claim to the throne of the UK (I'm talking about the Stuart family, whose dynasty ended about 1714) They have absolutely no evidence for what they say and rely only on peoples' fascination with grand conspiracies to get some attention.

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plaetton:

Frosbel, can this useless dumb idol below speak, hear or even understand all the scrap you spew at it?



Ofcourse, you have a preference for the white skinned idol as opposed to the dark skin idols that reflect your cultural roots and identity.
You can worship a dead white man all you like, it's not gonna make you white.

We can see how much you despise yourself.

Tufiakwa!
What a tragedy!

frosbel:


ssshhhh you are too hasty with your mouth.


I don't use any images, crosses, rosaries or whatever !!

onetrack:

The book you are talking about is a hoax. I'm an atheist but this book was written by people who have an axe to grind with the current British royal family, and they use this made-up claim about descent from Jesus to make their own claim to the throne of the UK (I'm talking about the Stuart family, whose dynasty ended about 1714) They have absolutely no evidence for what they say and rely only on peoples' fascination with grand conspiracies to get some attention.

Niflheim: The Babylonian Engineers channeled water upstream for Nebuchadnezzar's 'Hanging Gardens',at a time when the jews(sons of jehovah)were fetching from bucket and walking up the hill like house boys!!!

plaetton:

I can see that you never ever read the book.
Why criticize a book that you never read?

Niflheim: When Indian girls in Calcutta wanted to give birth,Mother Teresa insisted that they shouldn't use any drug to numb the pain,because the pain will bring spiritual cleansing!!!Most of these girls who were under aged eventually died from the pain!!!

onetrack:

I most certainly did read the book! It was interesting but just not based on anything that could be independently corroborated, and therefore, pure speculation. I don't believe much of what the book asserts.

nep2ra:
To the so-called professed Christians here, you refused to answer the questions I asked in my initial post. Some self-acclaimed Christianity Champions have been dancing around this topic while exhibiting pretentious intellectual gymnastics. Please answer the questions I asked and stop throwing unnecessary missiles. I asked these questions because I need honest answers. Thank you for your time.

nep2ra: I have been meaning to discuss this issue with enlightened and intelligent folks on this forum. Years ago while studying the Bible, I came across these verses which made me challenge Christianity as practised today and its categorization as a religion. Apostle Paul who wrote two-thirds of the New Testament and who most Christians base their doctrines and beliefs on called himself something other than a Christian. Let's look at these verses.

When Tertullus brought a charge against Paul before Governor Felix, He had this to say:

"We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect and even tried to desecrate the temple; so we seized him. By examining him yourself you will be able to learn the truth about all these charges we are bringing against him." Acts 24:5-8 NIV

Paul said this in his defence:

"...However, I admit that I worship the God of our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets, and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man." Acts 24:14-16 NIV

The Governor Felix was well informed about the activities of this group.
"Then Felix, who was well acquainted with the Way, adjourned the proceedings..." Acts 24:22 NIV
I know a lot of people will point me to this popular verse to back up the validity of Christianity as a religion.
"Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch." Acts 11:25-26 NIV

My questions are these:

1. Who called these disciples Christians?
2. Did they acknowledge themselves as Christians?
3. If Paul admitted he was a Follower of the Way, doesn't it mean those disciples who shared Paul's belief and faith in Jesus Christ were also Followers of the Way?
4. What happened to the sect called the Way? At what point in history did the Way fade into oblivion?
4. At what point in history was Christianity founded?
5. Why are Christians who base most their doctrines on Paul teachings ascribing to something different?

I welcome your intelligent contribution.

Thank you.

okeyxyz: @nep2ra,
First of all, did you even do any research on the word Nazarene(the way) before coming on here to make invalid arguments? Because if you had, you'd at least have found out that the word is used majorly in two contexts within the new testament. The first is as a reference to "Jesus of Nazareth" and the second is as reference to followers of jesus, in other words: Nazarene is another word for christian. Nazarene is used mainly in the hebrew and arabian contexts when they talk about christians.

So your questions here shows no evidence that you have done any proper thinking nor have you even used google to get some background on the subject.

The funny thing is that other lazy champions are revealing themselves by rising in support of you, making arguments that are either off-track from the subject(@ifeness, @onetrack,@plaetton, @pagan_9ja) or just like you, arguing without knowledge.

seyibrown:

... subscribing. Don't be too quick to close the thread in one day. Please, llow others to find it, contribute and answer your questions.

Ohibenemma: Jesus Christ said, 'I am the WAY, the truth and the life...' John 14;16. Thus, a follower of the WAY should be clear to you. If in doubt, as to the authenticity of any faith, you should be looking at Islam, which could take out passages from a book written long before the birth of their founder, copy and edit some truths in it to suit his purpose and pass it on to gullible minds as a revelation. E.g, the story of Abraham's sacrifice of Isaac being changed to Ishmael.