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Obscenities (ordained ?) by Alphazee(f): 2:59pm On Jan 31, 2008
Are these verses Inspired By God? embarassed

NA 3:5 " I am against you,' says the Lord , , and will lift up your skirts over your face; I will show the nations your unclothedness and kingdoms your shame."

IS 57:8 "Behind your doors and doorpost , you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide; you made a pact with those whose beds you love, and you looked on their unclothedness." tongue

ES 2:2-17 King Ahasuerus holds a sexual contest with "fair young virgins" to pick a new Queen (after having been spurned by Queen Vashti). shocked

GE 38:13-19 Tamar plays the role of a harlot in order to have sexual intercourse with her father-in-law. She conceives and twins are born.

EZ 23:3 "They played the harlot in Egypt; they played the harlot in their youth; there were their breasts fondled and their virgin bosoms handled." Or, as the KJV puts it: "they bruised the teats of their virginity." embarassed

NU 31:17-18 ", all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." tongue(Note: How did they determine which girls were virgins, and what did they do with them after they kept them alive for themselves? This is not a pretty picture.)

HO 1:2 (KJV) "And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom.'" shocked

HO 2:2 (KJV) ", let her , put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts , " embarassed

HO 2:3 "Otherwise I will strip her naked and make her as bare as the day she was born."

PR 5:19 (KJV) ", Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love." tongue

SO 1:13 "My beloved is to me a bag of myrrh, that lies between my breasts." cool

SO 2:3 "I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." tongue

SO 2:6, 8:3 "His left hand is under my head, and his right hand embraces me." tongue

SO 2:16, 6:3 "My lover is mine and I am his. He browses among the lilies." tongue

SO 4:5, 7:3 "Your two breasts are like two fawns , " tongue

SO 5:4 (KJV) "My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him."

SO 7:1-2 ", the joints of your thighs are like jewels , " cool

SO 7:7-9 "You are stately as a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. I say I will climb the palm tree and lay hold of its branches. Oh may your breasts be like clusters of the vine , " tongue

SO 8:10 ", and my breasts were like towers." cool

IS 3:17 "The Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will uncover their secret parts." embarassed

IS 13:15 "Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their , wives will be ravished." cry

IS 20:2-4 The Lord himself apparently commands his servant to go naked for three years.

LA 4:21 ", thou shalt be drunken, and shalt make thyself naked." embarassed

EZ 4:12 (KJV) "And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the Lord said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread , "

EZ 4:15 (KJV) ", I have given thee cows dung for mans dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith." shocked

EZ 16:7 ", You grew up and , arrived at full maidenhood; your breasts were formed , yet you were naked and bare." embarassed

EZ 16:8 "Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your unclothedness. I gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Sovereign Lord, and you became mine." tongue

EZ 16:36 ", your shame was laid bare and your unclothedness uncovered in your harlotries with your lovers , " embarassed

EZ 16:37 "Therefore I am going to gather all your lovers, with whom you took pleasure, those you loved as well as those you hated. I will gather them against you from every side and will strip you in front of them, and they will see all your unclothedness." embarassed

EZ 16:39 ", they will strip you of your clothes, , and leave you naked and bare." embarassed

EZ 23:8 (KJV) ", in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her."

EZ 23:10 "They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her with the sword." cry

EZ 23:17 (KJV) "And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them , "

EZ 23:18 (KJV) "So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her unclothedness: , " embarassed

EZ 23:20-21 (RSV) "Yet she increased her harlotry , and doted on her paramours there, whose members [i.e., sexual organs] were like those of asses and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts." embarassed

EZ 23:29 (KJV) ", and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the unclothedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms."

EZ 23:34 "You shall , pluck out your hair, and tear your breasts." shocked

SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts Philistines with tumors in their "secret parts." cry

SA 18:27 So that David might be allowed to marry the king's daughter, the king asks David to bring him 100 Philistine foreskins. David does the job right and brings the king not 100, but 200, foreskins of murdered Philistines. cry

GE 9:22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's unclothedness. embarassed

GE 19:4-8 A group of sexually depraved men demands that Lot turn over to them his two male visitors. Lot offers his two virgin daughters instead. tongue

GE 19:30-38 Lot's daughters have sexual intercourse with him while he is drunk and both become pregnant by their father.

GE 24:2-9, 47:29 ", put your hand under my thigh, and I will make you swear by the Lord , " kiss (Note: This means "put your hand under my testicles," which is the manner in which oaths were taken at the time; "testament," "testify," and "testicle" have the same root.)

GE 29:16-30 Jacob marries both Leah and her sister Rachel. He has children by both Leah and Rachel's maid Bilhah, but Rachel remains barren. Due apparently to Rachel's generosity to her husband, the Lord eventually allows Rachel to conceive.

GE 34:1-2 Shechem defiles Dinah. sad

GE 34:13-29 Hamor, his son, and the men of their village agree to be circumcised so as to be allowed to marry the daughters of the Israelites. On the third day, "when they were sore," the Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of the village, and plunder their wealth, taking their wives and children, thus getting revenge for the defiling of Dinah. sad

GE 35:22 (KJV) "Reuben went and lay with Bilhah, his fathers concubine." shocked

GE 39:7-23 The wife of Joseph's master tries to get Joseph to go to bed with her. He refuses, and flees leaving his "garment in her hand." She claims that Joseph tried to rape her, and Joseph ends up imprisoned. sad

NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty of which thirty-two are set aside as a tribute for the Lord. tongue

DT 21:10-14 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to kidnap "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their trial wives. If, after having sexual relations, a man has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go. shocked

DT 23:1 (KJV) "He that is wounded in the stones [testicles], or hath his privy member [penis] cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord." sad

DT 28:15, 30 If you do not obey the voice of the Lord, the Lord will cause another man to "lie with" your wife-to-be. angry

JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men beat on the door of an old man's house demanding that he turn over to them a male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

JG 21:11-12 "This is what you shall do; every male and every woman that has lain with man you shall utterly destroy. And they found , four hundred young virgins who had not known man by lying with him; and they brought them to the camp , " wink(Again, how did they determine which girls were virgins? This is not a pretty picture.)

JG 21:14-23 The 400 virgins captured above prove to be insufficient, so the Benjaminites hide in the vineyards and kidnap "the daughters of Shiloh" as they come out to dance and celebrate. sad

SA 19:24 "And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night." embarassed

SA 3:7 (KJV) "Wherefore hast thou gone in unto [a euphemism for sexual intercourse] my fathers concubine?"

SA 6:14, 16, 20-23 David dances and exposes himself to his maids. embarassed(His wife, Michal rebukes him for having done so, and as a consequence she is made barren.)

SA 12:11-12 The Lord is going to punish David for his sin by taking his wives and causing his neighbor to have sexual relations with them in public. sad embarassed

SA 13:1-14 King David's son, Amnon, rapes his half-sister, Tamar. sad

SA 16:22 Absalom "went into his father's concubines" in the sight of all Israel. embarassed

KI 1:1-4 David was old, and although covered with clothes, could not get warm. A beautiful, young virgin is brought in to be his concubine and nurse. But alas, he was so old and infirm that he "knew her not." What was the original idea? tongue

KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."


HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." cry sad

AM 2:16 " Even the bravest warriors will flee naked on that day,' declares the Lord." embarassed

MI 1:8 "I will go stripped and naked." embarassed

HA 2:15 "Woe to him who gives drink to his neighbors, pouring it from the wineskin till they are drunk, so that he can gaze on their naked bodies." tongue

MA 2:3 The Lord says that he will spread dung upon the faces of the priests.

MK 14:51-52 A young man discards his clothing and flees naked. shocked

RE 16:15 When Jesus comes again, he will come like a thief in the night so that those who do not have their clothes [on] will go naked and be shamefully exposed. embarassed

RE 17:16 "They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire." cry
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by JeSoul(f): 3:17pm On Jan 31, 2008
the only thing obscene about this post is you insinuating that the word of the almighty God is obscene. tongue
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by Gamine(f): 3:27pm On Jan 31, 2008
whats your point now
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by Nobody: 7:56pm On Jan 31, 2008
In Christian spirituality, God is taken as male (Jesus referred to himself as the Bridegroom several times). The believer (whether he is male or female or a group of people) is taken to be female. Female because we creatures are passive with respect to God and are always receipients of His graces.

The fact that God Himself seeks each one of us out is typically represented in the imagery of a Bridegroom seeking his Bride, or a husband who is jealous because his wife is unfaithful. In other words, God's relationship with us is cast in imagery we can relate with.

There is nothing obscene or embarrassing about it; so far as we take the message in the RIGHT perspective
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by pilgrim1(f): 8:40pm On Jan 31, 2008
Alphazee:

Are these verses Inspired By God? embarassed

The topic does not ask what is "inspired" or not; rather it begs the conscience of the poster who queries whether obscenities are "ordained". There is a huge difference between the two terms - and the twist simply shows the poster's motive.

However, I would like to ask Alphazee to carefully reflect on few examples:

Alphazee:

ES 2:2-17 King Ahasuerus holds a sexual contest with "fair young virgins" to pick a new Queen (after having been spurned by Queen Vashti). shocked

Do you mind showing where you read the "sexual contest" in that passage?

Alphazee:

HA 2:15 "Woe to him who gives drink to his neighbors, pouring it from the wineskin till they are drunk, so that he can gaze on their naked bodies."

MK 14:51-52 A young man discards his clothing and flees naked.

How do the above show that they were "ordained" as obscenities? cheesy
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by Nobody: 7:01am On Feb 01, 2008
@ alphazee

Is that all you can find? please search for more and come and post it on
nairaland. This is not the first time we've come across your kind, infact we have put your kind in their places for centuries. Since you are after obscenities make sure you pour your energies on campaigning against pornography which is becoming more accessible to even kids day by day. I ask have you done anything on how pornography is infiltrating into our daily lives. If your post is based on tarnishing the bible and not really based on the issue of obscenities then you are a hypocrite and only deceiving yourself.
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by pilgrim1(f): 7:33am On Feb 01, 2008
@stillwater,

stillwater:

Since you are after obscenities make sure you pour your energies on campaigning against pornography which is becoming more accessible to even kids day by day.

Good observation. It is also remarkable to note that the pornography industry today on its own has grown into a multi-billion dollar venture - without recourse to being Bible-"ordained"!
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by Alphazee(f): 11:50am On Feb 01, 2008
[Stillwater
I ask have you done anything on how pornography is infiltrating into our daily lives.quote]
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[It is also remarkable to note that the pornography industry today on its own has grown into a multi-billion dollar venture - without recourse to being Bible-"ordained"!
quote][quote]

That's exactly the point. To some of us some of those verses quoted can inspire the Pornographic Industry. Read them again and address the issues one by one or verse by verse and disabuse the minds of those who are inclined to think that way. That's healthy debate.
Why are you resorting to attacking personalities rather than issues? Whom are you reporting to the Moderator? Since when has quoting the Bible become offensive?
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by pilgrim1(f): 11:57am On Feb 01, 2008
@Alphazee,

Alphazee:

That's exactly the point. To some of us some of those verses quoted can inspire the Pornographic Industry.

You haven't made any sane point. The pornography industry does not consult the Bible for any "inspiration", and if you're going to make any sense at all, let us know when was the last time anyone involved in the pornography industry ever took a peep into the Bible for such "inspiration" as you infer?

Alphazee:

Read them again and address the issues one by one or verse by verse and disabuse the minds of those who are inclined to think that way.

A few cases have been presented to you, Alphazee. Please address them if you are actually thinking of a genuine discussion.

Alphazee:

That's healthy debate.

A healthy debate does not consist of posting verses and scooting away - you don't run off the mill and interject your idea with appeals to "a healthy debate" where you have not demonstrated any level to enter into a good discussion.

Alphazee:

Why are you resorting to attacking personalities rather than issues?

Issues have been presenting - is it too much to ask you to deal with them?

Alphazee:

Whom are you reporting to the Moderator? Since when has quoting the Bible become offensive?

I don't know who reported you to the moderator, or where anyone has said so. Do the quotes you posted sound like anyone was reporting you to any Moderator - or was that another mechanical device to detract from the real issues that you have failed to address? When you're done whinning, do you mind to address issues?
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by Nobody: 3:59pm On Feb 01, 2008
@ alphazee

Have you ever heard of figures of speech, alphazee the girl with the innocent mind? Personification, Hyperbole etc. The television screen is enough to blind you with sexual connotations, why have you not written to the television media?

There was a thread on Nairalaland asking what are your fantasies and I wrote I would like to ride a horse in an evergreen grassland where no one is looking. A dirty mind replied my post asking if the horse is synonymous to a man?
That is how dirty the world is now, and dirty minds would read baloney into simple sentences and figures of speech.
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by luridguy(m): 4:07pm On Feb 01, 2008
lets not be to harsh she either very young or very naive so what about the whole book of solomon
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by olabowale(m): 4:34pm On Feb 01, 2008
@Stillwater; The TV executives are mainly Jews and Christians; regular goers of religious houses of worships. And by the way, the Bible is stocked in Hotel rooms and suites around the world. I don't think anyone who brings out marketing of porns will boldly tell you that he/she was inspired by verses or section of the Bible! But you can get a common thread going through them. Afterall, the christians claimed the Bible to be the best sellers, probably the best read. But what is read for by individual is another story.
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by pilgrim1(f): 6:11pm On Feb 01, 2008
@olabowale,

olabowale:

@Stillwater; The TV executives are mainly Jews and Christians; regular goers of religious houses of worships.

Most TV executives are not Jews or Christians, nor do they regulalrly attend religious houses of worship. There is as much reason to believe that most TV executives who approve questionable content are Muslims - we just never get to read them on the net, but we know about them!

olabowale:

And by the way, the Bible is stocked in Hotel rooms and suites around the world.

So is the Qur'an - if you are quite travelled, this shouldn't be a difficult one to verify. Sample the following:

Raja Petra Kamarudin comments:

One of the first hotels to accept our Quran was the ‘kafir’ hotels
like Hotel Nikko. The ‘Muslim’ hotels owned by Pernas did not want
to accept them because it was too much trouble for them to have to
‘look after’ the Quran.

- - - - - -

Proposed Project of United Muslim Foundation (UMF):

A new project will soon be underway, to have copies of the translation
of the Holy Quran in hotels so that tourists to Orlando and other places
around the USA will be able to read the true word of God for themselves.

You should keep with the times - and simple issues like that would not be an amazement to you! cheesy

olabowale:

I don't think anyone who brings out marketing of porns will boldly tell you that he/she was inspired by verses or section of the Bible!

True.

olabowale:

But you can get a common thread going through them. Afterall, the christians claimed the Bible to be the best sellers, probably the best read.

It is not a "Christian" claim - go do the research yourself! grin Rather than keep whining, simply contribute to place any version from the 5 versions of the Qur'an in any 'kafir' hotel around the world! Ask Raja Petra for more info!

olabowale:

But what is read for by individual is another story.

True again.
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by longman83(m): 6:25pm On Feb 01, 2008
More plagiarism from our resident Bible scholar:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/vulgar.html

Next!
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by Alphazee(f): 2:10pm On Feb 04, 2008
Longman83 wrote:
More plagiarism from our resident Bible scholar:

I have neither claimed being a Bible scholar nor authorship to anything. Check what I stated in my first post, from which others, including this, follow:

Alphazee wrote:
Re: Bible Quiz For All. on: January 29, 2008, 01:44 PM
, , I was researching to answer the quiz when I stumbled on materials that got me confused. Please can any one help!!!!
Re: Obscenities (ordained ?) by iyes(m): 7:22pm On Feb 04, 2008
@ POSTER;

Alphazee, apparently it's either you do not know the meaning of QUOTING OUT OF CONTEXT, or you mischievously ignored the effect, but unfortunately to your own detriment, as all you have exhibited is that you have a very dirty mind, all in attempt to prove a point there isn't!

One wonders how laboriously you have toiled to fish out words you obviously consider erotic, oblivious of the fact that the word of God is a double edged sword. Depending on your inclination, it may serve as your rock of salvation, or your stumbling stone. The choice is yours, and it depends on your motive for coming to our God.

Remember, Judas Iscariot heard the same words as the other Apostles, even shared the same experiences with them, yet he got damnation instead of eternal life, all because of his frame of mind, alias MOTIVE!

In case you need an illustration of what quoting out of context means, consider this:

SENTENCE: "The Bible says a fool says in his mind; there is no God"

QUOTE 1: "The Bible says, there is no God"

QUOTE 2: I read it in the Bible where it says ", there is no God"

ALPHAZEE, RE-CHECK ON YOUR MOTIVE, AND YOU WILL SEE YOUR OWN PICTURE ON THE MIRROR OF GOD'S WORD!

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