[size=14pt]Scientists unveil quantum theory of soul's existence[/size]

Thursday, November 01, 2012



London: A near-death experience occurs when quantum substances which form the soul leave the nervous system and enter the universe at large, according to a ground-breaking theory proposed by two eminent scientists.

According to this idea, consciousness is a programme for a quantum computer in the brain which can persist in the universe even after death, explaining the perceptions of those who have near-death experiences.

Dr Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the Director of the Centre of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, has advanced the quasi-religious theory, the Daily Mail reported.

It is based on a quantum theory of consciousness he and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose have developed which holds that the essence of our soul is contained inside structures called microtubules within brain cells.

They have argued that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects in these microtubules, a theory which they dubbed orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR).

Thus it is held that our souls are more than the interaction of neurons in the brain. They are in fact constructed from the very fabric of the universe - and may have existed since the beginning of time.


The concept is similar to the Buddhist and Hindu belief that consciousness is an integral part of the universe - and indeed that it is really all there may be, a position similar to Western philosophical idealism, the paper said.

With these beliefs, Hameroff holds that in a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Instead it merely leaves the body and returns to the cosmos.

"Let's say the heart stops beating, the blood stops flowing, the microtubules lose their quantum state. The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can't be destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large," Hameroff told the Science Channel's Through the Wormhole documentary.

"If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can go back into the microtubules and the patient says 'I had a near death experience'," Hameroff said.

"If they're not revived, and the patient dies, it's possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul," Hameroff added


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I'm loving this.

This is interesting! Subscribing....

this destroys the proposition of frosbel and his cohorts that soul remains with the lifeless body and that spirit is different from soul and it is spirit that keeps the body alive.

the fact is that spirit is what soul is, essentially the unseen part of the living man. and for a man to die, the soul has to leave the body, as unseen [spirit].

the man is made of body [physical] and soul [spirit].

there is no body, spirit and soul. but body and soul [spirit]. science has come to what islam has stated in the Quran.
no one knows the full nature of soul. only God knows it.

Sweetnecta: this destroys the proposal of frosbel and his cohorts that soul remains with the lifeless body and that spirit is what keeps the body alive and it is different from soul.

the fact is that spirit is what soul is, the essentially unseen part of the man when he is alive. and for a man to die, the soul has to leave the body, as unseen [spirit].

the man is made of body [physical] and soul [spirit].

there is no body, spirit and soul. but body and soul [spirit].

Oh lawdy lawdyyy, please stop that on jor.

You people are so confusing lol in a bid to defend the contradictions in the Bible/ Quran.

i bet you dont have coherent opinion. and explanation is more refined. Bible is not Quran.
Bible has versions and editions and revisions.

Quran is 1 in original language.

See these b****d christians and muslims here.


When I post articles on evolution and science, you hypocrites either avoid it or make some trolling comments then leave.


However, when science seems to agree with your religion, you rush to the thread and claim "interesting" or "subscribing".



Yes, I use the word "b****ds" to describe you guys just to know how disgusted I feel by your hypocrisy and disingenuity. After, you will claim you have morals.



(this post doesnt include the sensible christians and muslims, just the hypocrites here)

Logicboy03: See these b****d christians and muslims here.


When I post articles on evolution and science, you hypocrites either avoid it or make some trolling comments then leave.


However, when science seems to agree with your religion, you rush to the thread and claim "interesting" or "subscribing".



Yes, I use the word "b****ds" to describe you guys just to know how disgusted I feel by your hypocrisy and disingenuity. After, you will claim you have morals.



(this post doesnt include the sensible christians and muslims, just the hypocrites here)

Jor calm down jor. Atheist/Agnostics act in the same hypocritical manner.

Ileke-IdI:


Jor calm down jor. Atheist/Agnostics act in the same hypocritical manner.

Okay, I have calmed down now

Penrose is a well known, respected physicist. Sometimes a collaborator of hawkins. His work on consciousness and also gravity have virtually no support though, and they have been around for a while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose

On a random note I have 'a road to reality', one of the few popular science books I abandoned due to complexity . But it introduced me to a lot of cool things

Logicboy03:





Okay, I have calmed down now

Inner peace...

@Logicboy, you don't get it, do ya? Until evolutionists provide measurable evidences to back up their theories/claims, there is actually no debate @ all. I don't see any reason why we should debate you over a scientific assumption that has no measurable evidences!

Until the evidences are 'observable and measurable', evolutionists haven't proved anything!

Logicboy03: See these b****d christians and muslims here.


When I post articles on evolution and science, you hypocrites either avoid it or make some trolling comments then leave.


However, when science seems to agree with your religion, you rush to the thread and claim "interesting" or "subscribing".



Yes, I use the word "b****ds" to describe you guys just to know how disgusted I feel by your hypocrisy and disingenuity. After, you will claim you have morals.



(this post doesnt include the sensible christians and muslims, just the hypocrites here)

lol, so who are d hypocrite and who are not? What group do i belong? Is hypocricy only atrrbutd only to religous.? Are they ateist hypocrite? Are u a hypocrite?

seriallink: @Logicboy, you don't get it, do ya? Until evolutionists provide measurable evidences to back up their theories/claims, there is actually no debate @ all. I don't see any reason why we should debate you over a scientific assumption that has no measurable evidences!

Until the evidences are 'observable and measurable', evolutionists haven't proved anything!

In your re.tarded world, your dna is not observable and measurable

tobechi74:

lol, so who are d hypocrite and who are not? What group do i belong? Is hypocricy only atrrbutd only to religous.? Are they ateist hypocrite? Are u a hypocrite?

Jamb question!

Logicboy03:


In your re.tarded world, your dna is not observable and measurable

DNA is evidence for evolution? Theories that are full of assumptions is what you call evidence? What if tomorrow, they are all proven wrong? Smh!! Well, let us not derail the thread!

Btw, was the bolded necessary? Smh!

seriallink:

DNA is evidence for evolution? Theories that are full of assumptions is what you call evidence? What if tomorrow, they are all proven wrong? Smh!! Well, let us not derail the thread!

Btw, was the bolded necessary? Smh!

Yawn. The bolded is necessary. Shock therapy works.


As for your question about DNA, why dont you freaking read a book?