boarnerges: I stand on my grounds as earlier opined in one of my comments on the religious section. Modern day christaindom is the most confused of all religion, there seem to be a confusion on their deity. 'Jesus is Lord' as quoted in the bible. If Jesus is Lord, then where is the place of 'the father' because Lord means ownership and also the place of the holyghost as in the constellation of the concept of trinity. The trinity has no bases in the bible, it was a pagan doctrine that came in around 325 AD to cloud/subtitute the many gods of the then world power that seeminly adopted christianity as its official religion..

I for call you OLODO but I won't be better off cus I was adviced not to answer a fool according to hi s folly lest I be like him.
Genesis 1:26-28
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Matthew 28:19
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
The TRINITY is a mystery(I advice you get a dictionary for this word) but also a revealed truth, would want to give you a detailed lecture but that will be derailing from the topic.
Jesus is God, the spoken word of God made flesh, the same word that has been before time began. Someone asked if God will sacrifice Himself to Himself; common stop literal anologies and seek spiritual guidiance before you utter a word about your maker.

Matthew 24:35 King James Version (KJV)
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my WORDS shall not pass away. Show you the eternity of Christ in union with the father and the holy spirit. Be open minded dude and don't jump into conclusions and to complicate things the more for you my friend;
John 17:21
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Now you can hug a high tension switch tower cuz you can't understand how a being will exist inside another

Christ is the spoken WORD of God that existed with God but was made manifest by Light
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. The spoken Word of God is God, the force behind creation and the first born of all things. nice one Phil

John 17:21
King James Version (KJV)
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

philfearon:
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Whereas God in his motionless power was free from God and every name,God was the unspoken word in the bottomless abyss of His divine nature in which the Word as such never thoroughly understood itself..A thing that undastands itself grows and fades in the act of understanding,but this Word does not grow or fade..It is unchanging in itself,so it has never understood itself in itself,even though it is the intellect of the father!
Let me stop here.......Peace!

Bidam: So there are may other gods abi? That is even more worse.You are practicing polytheism.

nope. You dont worship him. god is just a title.

Emusan:

If Jesus is a god, so you believe in a small god then?

psams 8:5 NIV
" You have made them a
little lower than the angels(elohim=gods)
and crowned them
with glory and honor".

Example!

Gen 19:13, 18

It means God has revealed Himself to human through Jesus.

Not that He himself came?

philfearon:
I believe You are the one in self-denial now.
I believe u didnt look up the Mysticism in ur dictionary,and u thought it means 'mystery'..smh!!..Of course u dont have any other thing to say,and so the best way out for u is to start ur usual personal Attack...
Since that passage is simple,and Since u have the Spirit of God in u,explain that Col1:15??
{n:b--No excuse or runnin around the bush! Explain it!}

You also made an insinuation which I never meant. You believe God is a mystery shey? I was marvelled how you cant understand john1:1. did that place say God had a beginning?

You also need an interpreter on Col. 1:15. what do you understand by the word firstborn?

Joshthefirst: I mean completely human, completely God. God became a human being. And walked among men. Some men recognized him. Men of light. Men of darkness hated Gods light personified, because light exposed their evil deeds.

Just watch yourself. Explain john1:18 in light of your comment.

You mean you do not worship Jesus? This is hilarious.

JMAN05:

nope. You dont worship him. god is just a title.

Bidam: You mean you do not worship Jesus? This is hilarious.

Well, I dont worship Jesus cos of what he said.

luke 4:8

In reply Jesus said to him: “It is written, ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”

Dont you think that the above verse supports worshipping God alone?

pasino26:

I for call you OLODO but I won't be better off cus I was adviced not to answer a fool according to hi s folly lest I be like him.
Genesis 1:26-28
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Matthew 28:19
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
The TRINITY is a mystery(I advice you get a dictionary for this word) but also a revealed truth, would want to give you a detailed lecture but that will be derailing from the topic.
Jesus is God, the spoken word of God made flesh, the same word that has been before time began. Someone asked if God will sacrifice Himself to Himself; common stop literal anologies and seek spiritual guidiance before you utter a word about your maker.

Matthew 24:35 King James Version (KJV)
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my WORDS shall not pass away. Show you the eternity of Christ in union with the father and the holy spirit. Be open minded dude and don't jump into conclusions and to complicate things the more for you my friend;
John 17:21
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Now you can hug a high tension switch tower cuz you can't understand how a being will exist inside another

hello mr pasino26. Good one here but let me assert that we aint here to counter motions, everyone is just dropping His or her idea on this subject matter and all i did was to drop mine too.
The scripture you quoted on 'in the beginning God said, let us make man in our image...our here could imply two, three, thousands and even billions. Remember satan was part of that 'our'. Why dont you undertake a study of the book of reveltions, read between the lines and see where God reveals Himself.
I love you my brother.

boarnerges:
hello mr pasino26. Good one here but let me assert that we aint here to counter motions, everyone is just dropping His or her idea on this subject matter and all i did was to drop mine too.
The scripture you quoted on 'in the beginning God said, let us make man in our image...our here could imply two, three, thousands and even billions. Remember satan was part of that 'our'. Why dont you undertake a study of the book of reveltions, read between the lines and see where God reveals Himself.
I love you my brother.

u mean satan was among those that created man? i tot lucifer as an angel was also created

JMAN05:

nope. You dont worship him. god is just a title.

sorry urs maybe a title(idol) but mine is Spirit not a title.

lacum:
u mean satan was among those that created man? i tot lucifer as an angel was also created

My brother, some people need to take their time and study the scriptures. I really did want to correct the statement the young man made on my comment but kept mute. Guess he didnt read the account of creation carefully btw line. the angels n heavenly hosts were all created. Man was made in GOD's image n likeness with the breath of life from God. Jesus is Lord and God, no one can percieve the wisdom of the scriptures without the help of tge HOLY SPIRIT of GOD. the more you explain the more u confuse folks who read the bible to pass CRK in sec sch. cheers bro

Bidam: sorry urs maybe a title(idol) but mine is Spirit not a title.

Ya, God is a spirit. but the term "God", ie elohim/theos are titles. other persons answer it including Jesus and other men.

I dont know if you understand?

People seem †☺ really lack understanding. First of all U̶̲̥̅̊ need †☺ understand who is a "God". God is a person who is a spirit, ominipotent and ominiscient, creator and ruler of the Universe.
"God is not a name of a person, "God" is a being. Just like "human is not the name of a person, "human" is a being. Anyone who is spirit, ominipotent..... Is a God and anyone who is mortal, can die, not ominipresent.... Lyk us is a "human". Get the connection?
So basically the name of our father in heaven is not "God" but i†'s jehovah, elshadai,....... Ãήϑ the name of his son in heaven is Jesus. Simple. Ãήϑ both the father Ãήϑ the son Ãήϑ the holyspirit (whose name is the comforter) are ominipresent, ominiscient, spirit.... beings. Hence their all God in their being J§† lyk U̶̲̥̅̊ are all "humans" in ur being and have Ūя different names lyk dele,chioma.....
So basically three beings run the universe God the father whose name is jehovah Ãήϑ his the God head, the oga at the top. Then U̶̲̥̅̊ αvє God the son whose name is Jesus who does the will of the father Ãήϑ then God the holyspirit who is on earth here Ψi† us, in us teaching us all things.
Lest U̶̲̥̅̊ forgot also the bible even said that ψє all are "gods". That is those that αvє the spirit of God( the comforter) in them.

JMAN05:

nope. You dont worship him. god is just a title.

WRONG. God is deity. I can understand why you guys label it as title to propagate your falsehoods.SMH!

JMAN05:

Ya, God is a spirit. but the term "God", ie elohim/theos are titles. other persons answer it including Jesus and other men.

I dont know if you understand?

why should i understand falsehoods. ELOHIM is not a title but a hebrew name for God.

Bidam: why should i understand falsehoods. ELOHIM is not a title but a hebrew name for God.

Psams 82:6

“I myself have said, ‘YOU are gods(elohim),

And all of YOU are sons of the Most High."

Now if we say that elohim is not a title and that it refers to the almighty, will it not mean that that psalms above is referring to Jah? but is it? think about it.

JMAN05:

Psams 82:6

“I myself have said, ‘YOU are gods(elohim),

And all of YOU are sons of the Most High."

Now if we say that elohim is not a title and that it refers to the almighty, will it not mean that that psalms above is referring to Jah? but is it? think about it.

Isnt the scripture you quoted self-explanatory..Do you need anyone telling you that?
And why attach "elohim" to the verse?

JMAN05:

Psams 82:6

“I myself have said, ‘YOU are gods(elohim),

And all of YOU are sons of the Most High."

Now if we say that elohim is not a title and that it refers to the almighty, will it not mean that that psalms above is referring to Jah? but is it? think about it.

Do you call the Word FAMILY a title

philfearon:
Isnt the scripture you quoted self-explanatory..Do you need anyone telling you that?
And why attach "elohim" to the verse?

How is it self explanatory to you and you still ask why I inserted elohim? It shows you dont even understand what I wrote and you are already flaunting your ego.

Bidam: Do you call the Word FAMILY a title

out of point.

JMAN05:

out of point.

Lol. When a revelation is brought.JW becomes confused and say it is out of point.

God made man(spirit) in His IMAGE and likeness.

Man(spirit) is part of the FAMILY(Elohim) of God(Spirit).

Jesus emphasized that POINT by saying God is Spirit and his worshipers MUST worship in spirit and in truth.

I am a god(spirit) under the FAMILY of GOD(The Father of all spirits).

JMAN05:

My brother, many have brought a dent on the congregation founded by Christ at pentacost. so sad that this people bear the name christian, but they have disregarded the truth found in the bible and clone it with mystery. GOD OF THE BIBLE IS GREATER THAN JESUS, who is His son. God is his Father. Many have chosen to believe the lie. this situation is pathetic and we continue to appeal to their reason to see whether the honest hearted will turn around. It is our prayer that God will help many.

Best wishes!

@ the capitalized above
Without doubt, "God" is greater than Jesus for Jesus confirms this himself (John 14:28).
What is the bone of contention that you see people struggling with?
Please,share it/them.
Cheers.

JMAN05:

How is it self explanatory to you and you still ask why I inserted elohim? It shows you dont even understand what I wrote and you are already flaunting your ego.

maybe,you should check who is really understanding the verse!!

Bidam: Lol. When a revelation is brought.JW becomes confused and say it is out of point.

God made man(spirit) in His IMAGE and likeness.

Man(spirit) is part of the FAMILY(Elohim) of God(Spirit).

Jesus emphasized that POINT by saying God is Spirit and his worshipers MUST worship in spirit and in truth.

I am a god(spirit) under the FAMILY of GOD(The Father of all spirits).

If you are a god, then you are Almighty "God ". because you said Elohim is for God alone. case closed

philfearon:
maybe,you should check who is really understanding the verse!!

your head always disappoints you. sorry I can't help.

JMAN05:

If you are a god, then you are Almighty "God ". because you said Elohim is for God alone. case closed

Not so fast..God is multidimensional.
You referred it as judges making it polytheism.Elohim is a hebrew grammer and is singular in usage.
"Elohim" denotes God as the supreme deity of a person or people.

Bidam: Not so fast..God is multidimensional.
You referred it as judges making it polytheism.Elohim is a hebrew grammer and is singular in usage.
"Elohim" denotes God as the supreme deity of a person or people.

Just watch yourself trying to twist your way thru. Did that place I quoted use Elohims? Is it not Elohim? I dont know who taught you that it is singular in usage. It is not always so bro.

Sorry, you cant twist away your earlier statement. you are "god", so you are your almighty God. your multidimentional decoy didnt change what you said that elohim is for God. hence you guys chose not to use your head, we go by your self confusion.

JMAN05:

your head always disappoints you. sorry I can't help.

As usual,you have succeeded in derailing the topic!!
God have mercy on you!

JMAN05:

Just watch yourself trying to twist your way thru. Did that place I quoted use Elohims? Is it not Elohim? I dont know who taught you that it is singular in usage. It is not always so bro.

Sorry, you cant twist away your earlier statement. you are "god", so you are your almighty God. your multidimentional decoy didnt change what you said that elohim is for God. hence you guys chose not to use your head, we go by your self confusion.

Lol, you are actually the one twisting the usage not me.