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A Misundertsanding With Africans by girl22(f): 4:51pm On Mar 29, 2008
Alot Africans had the audacity to laugh at the african americans who were victims of hurricane katrina and say they were lazy and waited on the government to help them.
that is not true.

first of all when the hurricane hit everything was destroyed and they were stranded by the water.
They had no chouice but to stay because of the water.

when the water did clear everything was destroyed and they had not transportation.

Alot of the victims family members were missing and they were trying to find hem.
They has no transportation so alot of them walked miles to other cities.

Also some of them passed out from heat strokes walking to other cities and died.

Also when some of them tried to come into one cities white people had shot guns and told them nigger go back.
So they had to walk alll the way back. The media forgot to run that story though.

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Also the government did not act to save them. So busloads of people went down there to help because the government ignored the crisis.

Now there were hurricanes that hit white cities and the government rushed down there to give them food,clothes and sheltor.So are you going to criticize white people for waiting on the government to give them food,clothes and sheltor.

Am I blaming the white man no. I am just stating facts.

You said they were standing in the line waiting for food from the government. That was not the government, those were people who were kind enough to go down there to help.

Where were they going to get food from? They had to wait on food . Duh?How are you going to eat if you lost your house,car,family,clothes and job? you have no transportation? and the whole entire city is in debris? Do you think they were supposed to just jump up and be fine when a devastating hurricane hit them and they have nothing?




it was also proven that the media fabricated news stories such as gangbangers fighting in the sheltors,rape,a girl getting shot in the face. These were never proven. Several people who worked in the sheltor said thse were lies.
And yes white people even came foward and said they were lies

Also why would Africans believe the same media who portrays them as primitave and backwards? If they would portray lies about you, why would you fall for the lies in the media?

Do your research instead of letting the mainstream media do it for you.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by oziomatv(m): 6:21pm On Mar 29, 2008
I symparthize with you, don't cry any more.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by almondjoy(f): 10:50pm On Mar 29, 2008
ha ha ha ha ha ha

Na wa oooooooooooooooh!

@poster

So sorry! But if it will make you feel better, No Katrina ever happened in Nigeria or anywhere in Africa. But 99.999999999% of Africa looks worse than any of the "Katrina" zones. So if you think we are laughing, it is because we have gone mad! cheesy

Pay us no mind please!
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by girl22(f): 1:53am On Mar 30, 2008
I went down there and those people were in horrible conditions. Have you went down there to look for yourself?
The conditions were terrible.
It was heartless of Africans to say they waited for people to save them. They were stranded and had to walk on foot. They needed people to come down there to get them out. They were not being laazy and waiting on the government. These people had nothing but the clothed on their backs. How were they going too get food?

Thats just like calling the Dinkas lazy for not stopping Dafur.
Calling Africans trifling for having an AIDS epidemic.
Calling Tutsis lazy for not stopping the Rwanda genocide.
Have some compassion.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by EloSela(f): 10:17am On Mar 30, 2008
@Girl22

You are making a huge generalization because not all Africans held that view.

However I will speak for myself. cool

I often visit a lot of African American message boards, not to mention the fact that I have spent a considerable amount of time in the US.

Often I have had to listen to AAs make some very denigrating remarks about Africans, some even saying that the poorest AA is better off than the richest African.

Their views were generally based on the idea that even the poorest AA had shoes on their feet, three square meals a day, access to the best education resources and employment. Their assessment was that the richest African did not have that in their own countries and that was why many traveled out to the US in order to achieve their dreams and to progress.

Now, while I may agree slightly on the education part, specifically talking about Nigeria, their views were totally ludicrous and off-base, not to mention insulting. I once had sat in an AA studies class in The Gambia and the AA Professor openly said that all Black people want to be Black American! The ignorant mentality of the AAs that I came across knew no bounds. They even boasted that they were the richest Black nation on the planet, a claim that I highly dispute.

Anyway, back to your beef.

The images of Katrina really exposed your a$$es to the world.

There were people in bare feet, folks highly illiterate not too mention obese and unemployed.

How else would you explain people not been able to vacate the hurricane zone even when they were given several adequate warnings that this was going to be a category 5 bytch that nobody in their right mind would want to F**K with?

I heard many say on the many news broadcasts on TV say that the reason they didn't leave was because they didn't have enough money to and that that the 1st of the month (remember Bones, Thugs N Harmony?) was still a few days away.

This gave the World an impression of an extreme bunch lazy individuals, which didn't help the already tainted perception of AAs anyway, (hip-hop anyone?) People sitting on their fat a$$es waiting for a welfare check even though they knew that devil was coming to pay them a visit.

While I understand that the US Government failed the older, disabled and very young individuals miserably, there were still enough able bodied adults stuck in that mess and I feel that they could have done a lot more to get their families the hell out of dodge when they received the warning.

As it goes, the arrogance that some AAs often display when it comes to dealing with Africans invited a lot of the criticism. All this, "I am an American, You Africans need to f**k off back to Africa!" e.g. Stanley Crouch and Whoopi 'I'm part Chinese' Goldberg types etc. Upon all the BS, the US Government basically disowned all those AAs caught up in Katrina by referring to them as refugees!

As I always say, if you can dish it out then you should be able to take it! grin
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by mamaput(f): 2:02pm On Mar 30, 2008
when i watched the news the first thing, the first thing that passed my mind was that i never in my life saw so many fat people on one sport
i will not call it laughing. but if am starving all my life and you come and tell me you are staving now. i will laugh at you.
not because i think its funny but because i have been with that problem all my life.And because i will think you have no story.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by girl22(f): 6:17pm On Mar 30, 2008
How else would you explain people not been able to vacate the hurricane zone even when they were given several adequate warnings that this was going to be a category 5 bytch that nobody in their right mind would want to F**K with?

Everybody couldn't get out in time because the roads were backed up. If you would listen to the news. They were trapped on the highway.
Yes some of the people chose to stay but not all of them. I went down there.
Like I said AGAIN. The MEDIA showed the illiterate ones and the ones that chose to stay.
What about the ones who were trying to leave but were trapped because the chaotic traffic?

If a hurricane hit nigeria. i give you a warning i think it was three days do you honestly expect everybody in nigeria to make it out on time?

I heard many say on the many news broadcasts on TV say that the reason they didn't leave was because they didn't have enough money to and that that the 1st of the month (remember Bones, Thugs N Harmony?) was still a few days away.

"The news brodcasts says. "Stop believeing everything the media shows you.
The media shows Africans as primitave also. You want us all to believe that.
Like I said before ,its called research.

There were people in bare feet, folks highly illiterate not too mention obese and unemployed.
There were also,professors,lawyers,doctors and highly articulate people who ere victims.
The media didn't show that right? Just like the media doesn't show the African engineers,lawyers,doctors.
[b]They only show cults,people naked and living in mudhuts,startvation and AIDS
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Alot of the people were barefeet maybe because they lost their shoes!!!![/b]
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by girl22(f): 6:30pm On Mar 30, 2008
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Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by girl22(f): 6:39pm On Mar 30, 2008
How else would you explain people not been able to vacate the hurricane zone even when they were given several adequate warnings that this was going to be a category 5 bytch that nobody in their right mind would want to F**K with?

THE HURRICANE DIDN'T HIT LOUISINA, NEW ORLEANS. DUMMY
THE HURRICANE HIT MISSISIPPI. THE PEOPLE WERE BRAGGING SAYING THEY WERE GLAD THE HURRICANE DIDN'T HIT THEM. IT WAS THE WEAKENED LEVEES THAT CAUSED THE CATASTROPHE IN LOUISIANA.

GOOGLE THIS "LEVEES NEW ORLEANS KATRINA FORENSIC"

Here is an article you need to read.
KATRINA: Levee Was Bombed,

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posted on 8-9-2005 at 08:37 AM Post Number: 1669919 (post id: 1691812)

"levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers "

Raw transcript of comments by NOLA evacuee Clara Barthelemy:

"The 17th Street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable
real estate in the city… to keep the French Quarter protected, the Ninth Ward was sacrificed…
people are afraid to speak out… everyone who was near there heard the bombings… they bombed
seven times. That’s why they didn’t fix the levees… 20 feet of water. Gators. People dying in
water. They let the parishes go, not the city center. Tourist trap was saved over human life."

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread168591/pg1
this is a link


September 7, 2005 -- Locals from Lakeview subdivision of New Orleans report that after Katrina passed a loose barge struck levee causing breach that flooded city.

WMR has just been informed by evacuees in Baton Rouge from Lakeview, a well-to-do New Orleans neighborhood, that the flooding of the city was caused by a loose barge striking the levee on the 17th Street Canal. The breach was not caused by rising flood waters as reported by FEMA and other agencies. Lakeview is some 1.5 miles down Veterans Boulevard from the 17th St. Canal breach.



Distraught evacuees want to know why the Coast Guard or the US. Army Corps of Engineers did not secure the barge. The evacuees who witnessed the barge striking the levee also want to know why the major media is not covering this story. It is not known what company owns the barge but if it is a major campaign contributor to the GOP, the answer is self-evident.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
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Evidence of Explosives Found at Levee Break


Hal Turner / TurnerShow.com

NEW ORLEANS (September 9, 2005) — Divers inspecting the ruptured levee walls surrounding New Orleans found something that piqued their interest: Burn marks on underwater debris chunks from the broken levee wall!
One diver, a member of the US. Army Corps of Engineers, saw the burn marks and knew immediately what caused them. He secreted a small chunk of the cement inside his diving suit and later arranged for it to be sent to trusted military friends at a The US Army Forensic Laboratory at Fort Gillem, Georgia for testing.
According to well placed sources, a military forensic specialist determined the burn marks on the cement chunks did, in fact, come from high-explosives. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity said “We found traces of boron-enhanced fluoronitramino explosives as well as PBXN-111. This would indicate at least two separate types of explosive devices.”
The levee ruptures in New Orleans did not take place during Hurricane Katrina, but rather a day after the hurricane struck. Several residents of New Orleans and many Emergency Workers reported hearing what sounded like large, muffled explosions from the area of the levee, but those were initially discounted as gas explosions from homes with leaking gas lines.
If these allegations prove true, the ruptured levee which flooded New Orleans was a deliberate act of mass destruction perpetrated by someone with access to military-grade UNDERWATER high explosives.

NOTE
Hal Turner, a New York based broadcaster, is shock-jock with racist leanings. He is virulently pro-property and anti-police and, as the following list of stories from his Web site indicate, he is a virulent racist. Still, the suggestion about explosive residue at the levee site deserves attention. Turner is a bozo, but he may have stumbled across something that the media needs to investigate further.
http://www.mullingitover.com/wpress/2005/09/07/were-the-levees-bombed/

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Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by EloSela(f): 10:51pm On Mar 30, 2008
girl22:

THE HURRICANE DIDN'T HIT LOUISINA, NEW ORLEANS. DUMMY




Bytch, who are you calling Dummy?

You seem to have missed the whole point of my thread. The news stations regularly show negative images of Africa and that is the reason why some of you AAs have mouth to denigrate and insult Africans who are trying to make a way in the US.

Don't come in here trying to solicit sympathy because the truth of the matter is that the tables have finally turned. Now you the shoe is on the other foot, you can finally experience what we Africans have had to deal with for eons.

And by the way, I saw people with bare feet before Katrina, just like I saw some in Atlanta.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Bwestind: 3:31am On Mar 31, 2008
My 2 cents. I have no bias since I'm not African or AA.


To the original poster. Africans take alot of sh*t not only from some black Americans but everyone else.  They have been dealing with what went on in New Orleans for years,but instead of people,(black Americans and other blacks included), sympthizing with them,they have been look down upon or scorned . Even those who are not living in poverty. There are also some Africans who move to the West and who achieve success at a faster rate than black Americans or West indians who look down upon black Americans and West indians. Some Africans even have Africans words to describe ''ghetto blacks''. Some have sterotypes of black Americans because of what they see in the media.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Nobody: 6:59am On Mar 31, 2008
@ girl22

Where were the successful African Americans you listed in some previous thread you were ranting and raving about when Katrina destabilized New Orleans? Why didn't they come to their rescue?
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by girl22(f): 8:58pm On Apr 01, 2008
girl22

Where were the successful African Americans you listed in some previous thread you were ranting and raving about when Katrina destabilized New Orleans? Why didn't they come to their rescue?

They traveled down there and helped send foof,clothes. They set up fundraisers. They also helped built homes for the victims. I said that in the post.

We even had a fundraiser and buses in my homwtown and I live in Illinois.

And to the poster who said African Americans don't help.

Last time I check Africans Americans are speaking ou agianst Darfur. African Americans protested against aparthied. African Americans asked the American government to interfere with the situation in Kenya. African Americans also donate money to those African charities.
I even personally know an African American that sponsored a boy from kenya with the 50 cents thing.
African Americans go to Africa to do missionary work and try to provide books and electricity and clean water to Africans
Its not just famous African Americans either. African Americans I think even tried to help with Nollywood films. I know they help with the Senegalese films though.

Remember Amadu Diallo?
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Bwestind: 6:04am On Apr 03, 2008
And to the poster who said African Americans don't help.


I hope this is not referring to my post,since I never said anything about Black Americans not helping Africans.  Some white American actors help out Africans,George Clooney,Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, Madonna and others when they adopt. But some Americans( black and white )  get angry at them for it. The same people who get angry at them for adopting from Africa are the first to say how bless they feel to be an American, when they hear or see a story about starvation,dieases or civil war in Africa. Yet the first thing you hear when a celebrity is adopting is ''why not adopt an American kid, there a plenty of kids in America who need parents'' .  When I said scorn I was referring to the attitude of Africans being the lowest of the low. And that attitude can be found in every population since Africans are portrayed that way the majority of the time. Even those who are not living in poverty. As I said before,there are some Africans who are arrogant and act stuck up when they come to Western nation.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by mamaput(f): 7:15am On Apr 03, 2008
AA are not the only people in the world that help. some people even endanger their own lives to help others
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Bwestind: 9:50pm On Apr 03, 2008
@EloSela,can you answer this question for me . Why does it make Africans mad when blacks in the americas say they have white or other races in them?  I've notice that Africans especially those living in britain have problems with it. Where they are just getting use to seeing mixed race people and people with other bloods in them.  Many of the black people in the UK who say they see themselves as AFrican don't really call themselves or see themselves as Africans back home. Infact some of them try to remove themselves from Africa more than others when theyre at home.






As it goes, the arrogance that some AAs often display when it comes to dealing with Africans invited a lot of the criticism. All this, "I am an American, You Africans need to f**k off back to Africa!" e.g. Stanley Crouch and Whoopi 'I'm part Chinese' Goldberg types etc. Upon all the BS, the US Government basically disowned all those AAs caught up in Katrina by referring to them as refugees!



Another Example from the ''light skin vs dark skin'' thread:

Quote from: Islander on December 30, 2007, 05:57 AM
ROFLNSAO, Anyway I am off to bed,

PS, The day when I come here and see Igbo and Yoruba and Hausas et al unite, then I will personally embark on a campaign to "force" Caribbean people to stop "hating" on their Africaness, until such time, we ALL have a lot of "beaming picking" to do,

Addios los gentes, Tengomos muy el fin de semana,


We at least agree that we are are proud to be Nigerians,black and Africans and not ashamed to say so.
We are not struggling to add a drop of slave masters blood in our DNA Thank God!
You can't get more unity in agreement than that.



The average Nigerian or African doesn't have a drop of ''slave masters DNA'', since there wasn't that kind of slavery in Africa. Also what about the blacks of sudan calling themselve 'Arabs',some of them look more African than some blacks in the americas. Most blacks in the americas acknowledge they are black and descend from Africa.  Plus I've seen africans who say that mixed nigerians can't be compared to pure ones because mixed bloods are naturally better looking.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by JustGood(m): 9:24am On Apr 04, 2008
African Americans also donate money to those African charities.

Nonsense. Please you all should keep your money to yourselves. How many people in Africa have come to you to ask for money?

I even personally know an African American that sponsored a boy from kenya with the 50 cents thing.

Get ta feck with your patronising attititude; go and find kwenyans if they're pleading with you for money to feed

African Americans go to Africa to do missionary work and try to provide books and electricity and clean water to Africans

Please keep your missionary work to yourselves and stop coming to brainwash us
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by EloSela(f): 11:22am On Apr 04, 2008
Bwestind:

@EloSela,can you answer this question for me . Why does it make Africans mad when blacks in the americas say they have white or other races in them?  I've notice that Africans especially those living in britain have problems with it. Where they are just getting use to seeing mixed race people and people with other bloods in them.  Many of the black people in the UK who say they see themselves as AFrican don't really call themselves or see themselves as Africans back home. Infact some of them try to remove themselves from Africa more than others when theyre at home.

Again speaking for myself.  cool

Africans couldn’t give two pieces of ish about what kind of mongrel mix other non-African blacks claim to be. Non-African Blacks tend to get caught up in that mess far more than Africans do. If you go to Cuba or Brazil they still have terms like Mulatto, Quadroon or Octoroon etc. God help you if you were to refer to them as African or Black for that matter.

An Igbo friend of mine spent a year in Cuba and everyone there tried to convince her that she was a Mulatto and at times a Quad because of her ‘high yella’ complexion. They thought her absolutely insane when she told them that she a full African Black woman.

Where are you getting your information from Anyway? If it is Blacknet UK which is run by British born Caribbean folk who have taken the pro-African stance a bit to far then you are seriously off the mark. The same 10 people have been posting on that forum for years and they certainly do not represent the whole of Black Britain.

Was it my comment about Whoopi ‘I am part Chinese’ Goldberg that prompted your questions? lol

Let me explain.

Many African Africans and Caribbean people seem to get off on the fact that because their ancestors have been in US and West Indies for hundreds of years then they must sure as hell be mixed and not have full African blood.

Fair enough, that is their prerogative. However some also like to use this fact to distance themselves from Africans by saying derogative things about us and the whole Continent.

Whoopi Goldberg and Stanley Crouch are a couple of examples. Whoopi claimed to have every race under the sun running through her veins, including Chinese, Native American and Spanish with only a little African! 

Well when Professor Louis Gates carried out his test for his program African American Lives it was found that Whoopi’s DNA was nearly 100% African with a drop of Caucasian! LOL!  Where was the Chinese, Native American or Spanish that she proudly claimed to have in her blood? Hence the reason for the tag I used.

Another important factor to note in the TV program was what Professor Gates said about many African Americans claiming to have Native American heritage when only less than 10% actually did! An average African American would have at least 90% full African DNA with the other 10% being on average, European.

Bwestind:

The average Nigerian or African doesn't have a drop of ''slave masters DNA'', since there wasn't that kind of slavery in Africa. Also what about the blacks of sudan calling themselve 'Arabs',some of them look more African than some blacks in the americas. Most blacks in the americas acknowledge they are black and descend from Africa.  Plus I've seen africans who say that mixed nigerians can't be compared to pure ones because mixed bloods are naturally better looking. 


I also found your comment above extremely ignorant and not to mention, worthy of a good chuckle. Not that I plan to collect any cookies on this one but nether less I still found the comment worthy of clarification. grin

What exactly do you mean by “There wasn’t that kind of slavery in Africa” I take this statement to mean that you don’t think the oyibo (white man) was sleeping or would that be raping black women in Africa and leaving spawn all over the place like they did in the Americas?

So do you really think the Colonial and Slave masters only got freaky with the slaves aboard the ships bound for the Americas in the plantations?   shocked

What is your idea of an average Nigerian or African? Would you consider a citizen of São Tomé and Príncipe an average African? Most of the inhabitants there would be classified as Mulattos! What about the Fulani or an Igbo of Nigeria? Are they average Nigerians? What about a Hausa man and a Pygmie? Please tell me what you think an average African or Nigerian is? 

Just because you come across a few Africans out of hundreds of millions who tell you that they think pure Africans are not as good looking as mixed ones does that make it the sure fire gospel on all African thought?
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by bawomolo(m): 4:47pm On Apr 04, 2008
THE HURRICANE DIDN'T HIT LOUISINA, NEW ORLEANS. DUMMY

new orleans is a city in louisiana.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Bwestind: 6:02pm On Apr 04, 2008
quote:EloSela

Again speaking for myself. 

Africans couldn’t give two pieces of ish about what kind of mongrel mix other non-African blacks claim to be. Non-African Blacks tend to get caught up in that mess far more than Africans do. If you go to Cuba or Brazil they still have terms like Mulatto, Quadroon or Octoroon etc. God help you if you were to refer to them as African or Black for that matter.

An Igbo friend of mine spent a year in Cuba and everyone there tried to convince her that she was a Mulatto and at times a Quad because of her ‘high yella’ complexion. They thought her absolutely insane when she told them that she a full African Black woman.


Hello Elosela , when some blacks of the Americas say they have white or other races in them its not always a claim, or an attempt to distance themselves from Africans, but its a fact that some do have another race . And it still doesn't mean they're not black and descend from Africa. Its not always about skintone either, because like you say your fully African friend was confused for a mulatto. I saw a comment by an AFrican poster at blacknet uk and he/she said something about how his skin is probably lighter than some black caribbean or like the poster wrote people from ''West india'',he/she seem to spell it that way to insult, or to make the word west indies and people seem stupid. Since the people their are black. 


This was from a UK study:

The study reveals that more than one in four British African-Caribbeans have white male ancestry on their direct father line.

Analysis showed that 27% of British African-Caribbean men have a Y chromosome (passed directly from father to son) that traces back to Europe, not Africa.

The autosomal study, investigating DNA inherited from all an individual's ancestors, demonstrated that on average, more than one in seven (13%) ancestors of today's Black Britons of Caribbean descent would be of European origin.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2757525.stm


There are black people in the caribbean who have more than the UK average of 13 % european. Some test done in the caribbean place it at 21% or higher.



Where are you getting your information from Anyway? If it is Blacknet UK which is run by British born Caribbean folk who have taken the pro-African stance a bit to far then you are seriously off the mark. The same 10 people have been posting on that forum for years and they certainly do not represent the whole of Black Britain.



Blacknet UK is filled with many misinformed people. They have Black caribbeans,black Americans and black Africans.




Was it my comment about Whoopi ‘I am part Chinese’ Goldberg that prompted your questions? lol

Let me explain.
Many African Africans and Caribbean people seem to get off on the fact that because their ancestors have been in US and West Indies for hundreds of years then they must sure as hell be mixed and not have full African blood.

Fair enough, that is their prerogative. However some also like to use this fact to distance themselves from Africans by saying derogative things about us and the whole Continent.

Whoopi Goldberg and Stanley Crouch are a couple of examples. Whoopi claimed to have every race under the sun running through her veins, including Chinese, Native American and Spanish with only a little African! 

Well when Professor Louis Gates carried out his test for his program African American Lives it was found that Whoopi’s DNA was nearly 100% African with a drop of Caucasian! LOL!  Where was the Chinese, Native American or Spanish that she proudly claimed to have in her blood?      Hence the reason for the tag I used.

Another important factor to note in the TV program was what Professor Gates said about many African Americans claiming to have Native American heritage when only less than 10% actually did! An average African American would have at least 90% full African DNA with the other 10% being on average, European.


Ok. I don't know what Whoopi Golberg said before about her race,and don't know much about the part chinese comments.


Its seems that whoopi Golberg said something that made her look like a selfhater. I don't know what she said before and don't know if she is or is not.  She took a test and she was 93% African and 7% European.  The Average African American is about 20-25% european from studies.  There are some blacks in the West indies and America who are 100% african, but they are the minority. And thats being honest and not selfhating or wanting to distance from Africans.







I also found your comment above extremely ignorant and not to mention, worthy of a good chuckle. Not that I plan to collect any cookies on this one but nether less I still found the comment worthy of clarification.

What exactly do you mean by “There wasn’t that kind of slavery in Africa” I take this statement to mean that you don’t think the oyibo (white man) was sleeping or would that be raping black women in Africa and leaving spawn all over the place like they did in the Americas?


What I mean is it was'nt as large scale,conteintal Africans were not breeded to work for generations out of africa. There was colonialism but there was no transport to work on plantations.



So do you really think the Colonial and Slave masters only got freaky with the slaves aboard the ships bound for the Americas in the plantations?   

What is your idea of an average Nigerian or African? Would you consider a citizen of São Tomé and Príncipe an average African? Most of the inhabitants there would be classified as Mulattos! What about the Fulani or an Igbo of Nigeria? Are they average Nigerians? What about a Hausa man and a Pygmie? Please tell me what you think an average African or Nigerian is? 



The average Nigerian which is the largest country in africa,doesn't have one drop of slave masters blood. The ones who do are probaly in the minority. Like I said before, on a large scale, there are many Africans who don't have slave ancestors,while nearly every black in the new world has a slave ancestor and past.




Just because you come across a few Africans out of hundreds of millions who tell you that they think pure Africans are not as good looking as mixed ones does that make it the sure fire gospel on all African thought?
   


Well the same can be said about some blacks of the Americas.



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Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Eliza704: 3:03am On Apr 08, 2008
To elosela ersela or whatever. Please u should just shut ur dirty mouth. U dont have a clue what u are talking about. When it happens to u we will see. Idiot.
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by adconline(m): 8:37pm On Nov 30, 2008
Alot Africans had the audacity to laugh at the african americans who were victims of hurricane katrina and say they were lazy and waited on the government to help them

Another myopic view of Africa.  You sound like Sarah Palin who does not know that Africa is a continent. Africa also has Caucasians and Arabs- so what's their connection with Katrina? Knowing a handful of folks who seem "African" should not be a parameter for judging a continent of about 800million peoples .
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by JustGood(m): 5:06pm On Dec 01, 2008
adconline:

Alot Africans had the audacity to laugh at the african americans who were victims of hurricane katrina and say they were lazy and waited on the government to help them

Another myopic view of Africa. You sound like Sarah Palin who does not know that Africa is a continent. Africa also has Caucasians and Arabs- so what's their connection with Katrina? Knowing a handful of folks who seem "African" should not be a parameter for judging a continent of about 800million peoples .

Honestly, do you think she knows that Africa is a continent? She even thinks that USA is a continent!!! shocked

And, I am serious. . . she'll confirm that herself
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by ikeyman00(m): 7:34pm On Dec 01, 2008
elosea

u are 100% right but just readin the ones opposin u?

just like ryan giggs of man_Utd, hes got some traces of black gene on him, but u never heard they talkin about it, now watch out for them aa and acs hahhahhah em
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by lazy(m): 6:39am On Dec 02, 2008
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Alot Africans had the audacity to laugh at the african americans who were victims of hurricane katrina and say they were lazy and waited on the government to help them

Another myopic view of Africa.  You sound like Sarah Palin who does not know that Africa is a continent. Africa also has Caucasians and Arabs- so what's their connection with Katrina? Knowing a handful of folks who seem "African" should not be a parameter for judging a continent of about 800million peoples .

I honestly don't think the person was having a myopic view but really didn't express themselves correctly. For instance, there are many different groups of people that live all over the world. There are minority groups of people on every continent(all 7, 6, or 5 continents depending on which nation-state you went to school). However when describing a group of people, individuals refer to the majority in that location. When specifying the minority they will place something in front of it. I am not saying it is correct but it is just the reality

An example is what just happened in India. I know you might have heard of the Jewish Center there and that people died there, Obviously, there were Jewish people living there and having kids there etc, Would you refer to them as Indians probably not ,
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by adconline(m): 4:48pm On Dec 03, 2008
@Lazy
I honestly don't think the person was having a myopic view but really didn't express themselves correctly. For instance, there are many different groups of people that live all over the world. There are minority groups of people on every continent(all 7, 6, or 5 continents depending on which nation-state you went to school). However when describing a group of people, individuals refer to the majority in that location. When specifying the minority they will place something in front of it. I am not saying it is correct but it is just the reality

An example is what just happened in India. I know you might have heard of the Jewish Center there and that people died there, Obviously, there were Jewish people living there and having kids there etc,  Would you refer to them as Indians probably not


In the context of this discussion, she is myopic in  her view of Africa since there is no evidence to show an entire continent was happy when their fellow brothers and sisters were called refugee in their country. Its myopic to infer that knowing a handful of "Africans"  qualifies you to think that All Africans are alike. Its myopic to think that Africa is a homogenous society. Its myopic to say that " Africans" dont love African Americans- that's why they rejoiced when African Americans were struck with natural disaster. Its myopic to think that Africans glorify at the peril of AA's
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by lucabrasi(m): 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2008
@girl22
for once i totally agree with your post and comments, katrina was a really horrible experience and anybody casting blames on either the aa s or anyone that experienced it is totally unfeeling and has allowed his or her bias for african americans to becloud any reasonable though process coming from 'em
btw, thanks a lot for giving elosela's comments the necessary response,and just a thought, please make it clear if you do or don't share the view that the richest african is less than the poorest aa"
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by lazy(m): 7:33pm On Dec 03, 2008
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@Lazy

In the context of this discussion, she is myopic in  her view of Africa since there is no evidence to show an entire continent was happy when their fellow brothers and sisters were called refugee in their country. Its myopic to infer that knowing a handful of "Africans"  qualifies you to think that All Africans are alike. Its myopic to think that Africa is a homogenous society. Its myopic to say that " Africans" don't love African Americans- that's why they rejoiced when African Americans were struck with natural disaster. Its myopic to think that Africans glorify at the peril of AA's

If that is the context, then I absolutely agree with you. smiley
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Nobody: 3:08am On May 14, 2013
Who cares?
Re: A Misundertsanding With Africans by Nobody: 3:14am On May 14, 2013
Lol @ had the audacity? Lma who the fck u think you are

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