CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE SHDEMIDEMI ?

obadiah777: CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE SHDEMIDEMI ?

run ..run ..at least you did'nt disappoint me for once.End of discussion.

shdemidemi:

run ..run ..at least you did'nt disappoint me for once.End of discussion.

JUST WHAT I THOUGHT. FULL OF HOT AIR.

Atheist:-D:
So what is a true Christian meant to do.... keep the Jewish law or continue with the current Christian laws and way of worship? Also, what if certain Christian denominations start to do things differently from the rest? Will it be tolerated or will they be condemned?

People want to condemn the Anglicans and Episcopalians for pursuing the gay bishop issue but couldnt one argue that even worshipping on a day differwent to the Jewish sabbath was heretical and punishable by death?

Also, what if certain Christian denominations start to do things differently from the rest? Will it be tolerated or will they be condemned?

My guess is that they would be immediately condemned, its just like a church going fellow challenging or questioning a pastor half way through his sermon (teaching).

This would be regarded as non conformist behaviour and the individual would eventually be victimised or expelled.


So what is a true Christian meant to do.... keep the Jewish law or continue with the current Christian laws and way of worship?


A True Follower of Yashua the Christ would first and foremost live a christlike life, the Character of the master is available to any true believer that has access to the written word (bible).

And contrary to what the Lawless grace preachers are proposing one should not just focus on the words of these great men, but most importantly their Characters must also be looked at critically

All the great men of the bible share the same singular character.

the Christ like character.

the righteous character.

IT IS ONLY THROUGH A KNOWLEDGE OF THE DIVINE CHARACTER THAT ONE CAN PERCIVE THE DIVINE PERSONALITY

IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU DONT KNOW THE CHARACTER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT HOW COULD YOU TELL IF HE PASSED YOU BY ON THE STREET?

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A DIVINE PERSON (PERSONALITY)WITH A DEFINITE CHARACTER.

Finally what you might find most Interesting is that regarding doing things differently the churches or the oriental orthodox Christianity still observe Torah living in their church traditions till date, so things like the Sabbath and the Passover are still lawfull for them.

This has over the course of history earned them unpopular names like monophysite or quatrodeciman.


Hear o Isreal The Lord our God the Lord is One.

shdemidemi is your brain still shaking??

Goshen has really given your kind a working over.


judgement to all Lawlessness

The quatrodeciman controversy is factual history.

You have all bee warned.

SHALOM!

MostHigh:
I have noticed a trend on this forum on issues regarding grace and law, those against the law speak passionatly from the bible and rightly so

WRONGLY SO!

Who told us to follow a "BIBLE?"

Where did we learn THAT from?

Was it from YAHSHUA THE SAVIOUR?

It was NOT.

So, just because some OYINBOS said:

"YAHSHUA IS GONE- NOW WE MUST FOLLOW "THIS...!"

that does not mean that we have to BELIEVE them!

But what about factual history?

I think we all need to calm down and take a look at our past histories and see if we are missing anuthing per say.

I keep hearing this from people:

"WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW HISTORY...!"

WHAT?

How do we escape the "MISTAKES" of the Past, if we do not know what they were?

Or, WHO IS IT, who does not want us to escape those "MISTAKES?"

It is amazing how our own people COOPERATE in their own ENSLAVEMENT!

This theme of this post is to look into the historical evidence concerning the Passover in the early church, and see what all the controversy was about at that time. Few realize it, but there was an ongoing controversy from the first till the fifth centuries in the visible Church concerning Passover. That controversy has historically been referred to as the “Quartodeciman Controversy.”

WARNING! WARNING!!

SACRED COW BUTCHERING IMMINENT!

Soft-hearted Brethren... please look away.

It is probably going to get ugly...

[b]For all you Grace apologetics (Goshen and his gang)who project paul as the central theme in thier messages, I will like to start the discussion with a qoute from paul

The apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthian Church these words:

“For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth” (I Cor.5:7-8, NIV).

Notice! Paul said plainly enough, “Let us KEEP THE FESTIVAL”! The footnote of the NIV Bible on this verse states: “Keeping the Feast of Unleavened Bread (which followed Passover) symbolizes living the Christian life in holy dedication to God.”

Not only did Paul in this verse exhort the Corinthians – many of whom were Gentile believers – to observe this Passover festival season, but he himself did so, setting them an example.

Notice again! Paul and his companions spent the Feast of Unleavened Bread at Philippi. The historian Luke records, “But we sailed from Philippi AFTER THE DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD, and five days later joined the others at Troas, where we stayed seven days” (Acts 20:6). This clearly implies that Paul was still observing the festival ordained by God forever (Exo.12:15-18).[/b]

OOH! And the first solid blow goes RIGHT UNDER THE BELT!

The very guy who tried to SABOTAGE The Law ends up supporting It!

Well, not even mighty Paul could fool all of the people all of the time, everywhere...

THE FEASTS ARE A HEAVENLY GATHERING, AS WELL AS AN EARTHLY GATHERING.

We are expected to TRANSLATE OURSELVES TO HEAVEN, three times each year, to ASSEMBLE OURSELVES BEFORE GOD.

The WAR we have been fighting for 2,000 years is with THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO GO.

Minions of SATAN.

At the Council of Nicaea in A.D. 325, during the reign of Emperor Constantine, the bishops of the Catholic Church decreed concerning the Passover that: “All the brethren in the East who formerly celebrated Easter [Passover] WITH THE JEWS [the Jews never celebrated what we call “Easter”], will henceforth keep it at the SAME TIME AS THE ROMANS, with us and with all those who from ancient times have celebrated the feast at the same time with us.”
Emperor Constantine, having been totally disgusted with the disagreements and controversies within the Christian community regarding the date of “Easter,” then exhorted all the bishops of the universal Church to embrace “the practice which is observed at once in the city of Rome, and in Africa; throughout Italy, and in Egypt” (NPNF, 2nd, I, p.525). Henceforth the power of the Roman Empire was used to enforce Easter observance upon “Christians,” and to prohibit and forbid true Passover observance!

What is the point of citing "HISTORY" if you are not going to give us the REFERENCES, so that we can go read them for ourselves?

Or are you just writing for the entertainment of fellow scholars?

[b]Thus by 325 A.D. the true celebration of the ancient Passover, which had been the practice of the Jews, the family of Jesus, Jesus Himself, the apostles, and the early Church in Jerusalem, and throughout the region of Asia, as well as various other portions of the Empire, including some churches in Rome itself, was systematically rejected, repudiated and abolished, because of its connection with the hated and maligned Jews. Instead, the pagan worship of Easter Sunday observance was now transferred to the Church, supposedly in honor of Christ’s resurrection. Though its very name, “Easter,” is the name of a pagan goddess of spring and fertility, its very name emblematic of its true origin, it was cleverly slipped into the Church in the place of Passover observance.

The long struggle between Passover and Easter was finally decided – by the power of Rome – in favor of Easter! True Passover observance, by Christians, was halted, ended, by the force and power of Imperial edict and decree of the apostate Church in the Roman Empire.[/b]

Get it through your head: THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT "THE CHURCH!"

They were merely IDENTITY THIEVES, who were KILLING the TRUE Christians of the TRUE Believers' Churches.

Please stop equating ROMAN CATHOLICISM with CHRISTIANITY.

By 364 A.D., at the Council of Laodicea, both the Passover and the Sabbath were completely abolished by the Roman state. The new state religion, a bizarre blending and amalgamation of paganism and Christianity, devoid of any remaining “Jewish” influences, became the dominant religious power in Europe for over one thousand years. Paganism, cloaked in outer "Christian" appearing clothing, triumphed over the truth. Satan's great deception was complete. The “Great LovePeddler” had triumphed.

NO COUNCIL EVER HAD THE POWER TO "ABOLISH" ANYTHING.

They were just a GANG OF ROGUES who HIJACKED THE BIBLE, and were calling themselves "CHRISTIANS," but who were NEVER accepted by GOD.

But only temporarily.the most high God is working and restoring His TRUE PASSOVER for all who desire to obey Him and keep His commandments!

These people NEVER HAD ANY STANDING BEFORE GOD AT ALL.

Their "CHURCH" Is just a MACHINE for Systematically DESTROYING SOULS from the Cradle to the Grave.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



WRONGLY SO!

Who told us to follow a "BIBLE?"

Where did we learn THAT from?

Was it from YAHSHUA THE SAVIOUR?

It was NOT.

So, just because some OYINBOS said:

"YAHSHUA IS GONE- NOW WE MUST FOLLOW "THIS...!"

that does not mean that we have to BELIEVE them!



I keep hearing this from people:

"WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW HISTORY...!"

WHAT?

How do we escape the "MISTAKES" of the Past, if we do not know what they were?

Or, WHO IS IT, who does not want us to escape those "MISTAKES?"

It is amazing how our own people COOPERATE in their own ENSLAVEMENT!



WARNING! WARNING!!

SACRED COW BUTCHERING IMMINENT!

Soft-hearted Brethren... please look away.

It is probably going to get ugly...



OOH! And the first solid blow goes RIGHT UNDER THE BELT!

The very guy who tried to SABOTAGE The Law ends up supporting It!

Well, not even mighty Paul could fool all of the people all of the time, everywhere...

THE FEASTS ARE A HEAVENLY GATHERING, AS WELL AS AN EARTHLY GATHERING.

We are expected to TRANSLATE OURSELVES TO HEAVEN, three times each year, to ASSEMBLE OURSELVES BEFORE GOD.

The WAR we have been fighting for 2,000 years is with THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO GO.

Minions of SATAN.



What is the point of citing "HISTORY" if you are not going to give us the REFERENCES, so that we can go read them for ourselves?

Or are you just writing for the entertainment of fellow scholars?



Get it through your head: THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT "THE CHURCH!"

They were merely IDENTITY THIEVES, who were KILLING the TRUE Christians of the TRUE Believers' Churches.

Please stop equating ROMAN CATHOLICISM with CHRISTIANITY.



NO COUNCIL EVER HAD THE POWER TO "ABOLISH" ANYTHING.

They were just a GANG OF ROGUES who HIJACKED THE BIBLE, and were calling themselves "CHRISTIANS," but who were NEVER accepted by GOD.



These people NEVER HAD ANY STANDING BEFORE GOD AT ALL.

Their "CHURCH" Is just a MACHINE for Systematically DESTROYING SOULS from the Cradle to the Grave.

Ok

The easter issue isnt abt true date vs false date but about two apostolic traditions.

some apostles remembered d resurrection of Jesus 3 days after the jewish passover other do it any sunday after the jewish passover until the xtians abandoned d jewish calender.
This difference in tradition meant diffferent church celebrate pasha a few days after each other.