Says Jonathan should drop his 2015
ambition
PRIMATE Theophilus Olabayo, 67, founder
of Evangelical Church of Yahweh with
headquarters in Mende, Maryland, Lagos,
had remained one of Nigeria’s respected
prophets whose prophesies had shaken
the high and mighty in the country. In
this interview, the cleric says there would
be a spiritual revolution that will rock the
nation to its foundation and at the end of
it, a new nation will emerge.


Excerpts:


What really happened that you went
off the radar for several years?


I have been talking. A prophet doesn’t
just say things. It’s when God asks me to
speak that I speak. Many atimes, I warn
our leaders but they don’t have listening
ears. I was the only one who said
President Umaru Yar’Adua had a terminal
disease and when the condition got
worse, the wife called some of us to
Abuja to ask of the chances of her
husband. I said the husband would die
and Jonathan would become president. I
warned President Goodluck Jonathan that
people would make the country
ungovernable for him, but people said I
was a prophet of doom. Is it not
happening now? Let me quickly say this
here that worse than Boko Haram is
about to happen.
It’s no secret that you had some
health challenges which may have
been responsible for your absence for
some time.


What is the nature of your
ailment?


I did not lay off. Elijah was sick and he
was still doing God’s work. I had an
attack. A spiritual attack but I am still
hale and hearty. Spirit cannot die. The
spirit of God cannot die in you. The body
may be weak, it doesn’t matter. But the
spirit cannot die. God will continue to
speak through you.


Is it true that you had stroke, Sir?


It’s not a big deal that someone has
stroke but I am okay. While on a trip to
Kaduna, God had revealed to me that I
would have stroke and would be away for
some time. So I looked for someone who
knew about stroke; one of my pastors.
Primate Olabayo


How did it happen and what was your
first reaction?


I was going for a revival in Kaduna and
God told me to go with somebody who
knows about stroke. The man had to
follow me to Kaduna. When I got to
Kaduna, they told me one of my
townsmen was sick and when I got to his
place, God said I should not do anything
though he was suffering. I got a room for
him, paid his bills and left after praying
for him. As I was returning to the church
in Kaduna, I had the attack.


And did you have any medical
treatment?


Definitely!


Why do you think it’s a spiritual
attack?


I know because God told me about it. I
know it could be exhaustion because I
pray and fast a lot.

There was this rumour among the
people that one of the reasons your
church went down was because you
were caught in adultery with
somebody else’s wife. Is it true sir?
God will forgive you. Where? That is why
Nigeria cannot move forward. How do you
expect me; I preach the Word of God, I
preach against adultery, then I’ll be
caught in such an act! Impossible!
Anybody can lie against you..



At your age sir, are you thinking of
passing over the baton to someone
else soon?


I am a prophet and it is not hereditary.
God can choose anybody. When it’s time
for me, God will tell me to lay hands on
the person. God has not told me yet, I’m
still a young man. There are so many
people that are coming up, not only one
person. Among them, God will raise up
leaders. We have young pastors coming
up in the church who have the gift of the
Word of God, the Bible. Not only vision,
people believe that it’s when you just
speak in tongues alone or see vision. No!
There are different types of gifts.
There are churches as soon as the
founders pass away you don’t hear
much from those churches…

It can’t happen here because it’s God
that called me. When it is time, God will
raise up another leader among us.
What do you foresee for Nigeria?
We are sitting at the keg of gunpowder.
We are looking at total darkness in the
nation. We need to pray very well
because these political people are not
doing the right things. Nothing is working;

the worst corruption is in Nigeria. There
has never been corruption as worse as
this. The name of Nigeria is now
corruption and some of the journalists are
not helping matters. People are being
bribed. But there’s going to be a
revolution. The poor will overtake the
rich. You’ve not seen anything. You’ve
not seen Boko Haram. Worse Boko
Haram is about to happen and we have to
pray against religious war that may last
seven years.
Let Jonathan drop his ambition for 2015.
Let him work and allow his work speak for
itself. Most of his political alleys especially
from his Niger Delta are deceiving him
and are talking carelessly. They will be
consumed one after another. They are
already beating war drums if he fails to
return in 2015; let them keep quiet. They
are not helping matters. Very soon they’ll
start bombing.

The chairman of PDP is going to face
another problem because there’s going to
be crisis and if care is not taken, he is
going to be removed. They are going to
scatter them and cause confusion
between him and the president. Most of
these governors that are being sacked are
going to join hands together to form
another party. A new party will emerge
which will be more powerful than PDP.
Not APC! Gov. Rotimi Amaechi’s current
challenges will create more problems in
this country.


What’s the way out of all of these?

How can we prevent this doom from
coming to pass in Nigeria?


The problem with Nigeria is leadership.
We are so corrupt and wicked. We
manipulate things and we don’t allow God
to work. They don’t believe in God. They
go about looking for protection; some of
them think they are untouchable. They
don’t believe there’s God. One day they
are going to give account. God is going to
intervene in the affairs of Nigeria very
soon and a brand new nation will emerge
from the ashes of a revolution. The
president is being caged by some few
people. When you are saying the truth,
they arrest you. Some of his close people
are enemies and he doesn’t know. If he’s
not careful, they are going to run him
down.

There are things to be done spiritually. I
don’t need to discuss all these with the
Press because our leaders don’t have
listening ears. We need to come together
and work for this nation because we have
children. We don’t want our children to
suffer. Because if there’s war in Nigeria
today, Ghana cannot accommodate the
number of refugees. They are holding
notional meetings. If they want to do
something, somebody will talk today;
they will give him millions of naira to keep
quiet.
They are not saying anything, they are
only exchanging money and that is what is
destroying this country. Our refineries are
not working; the roads are bad, armed
robbers have taken over; there’s no work,
now they want to sack people. The man is
making more mistakes everyday. Every
step he takes, he’s making wrong
decisions. Many of his advisers are selfish
and wicked people. They are just
accumulating wealth. And they are old.
They don’t give up. They are acquiring
properties.
Some say Nigeria might not survive
beyond 2015. Do you agree?
I went to America of recent and I
prophesied and it happened. Let me tell
you, it’s not America that will dictate for
us. God is saying that we should avoid
war; religious war.


Sir, is there anything the Church or
anybody can do to avert a violent
revolution?


As I am prophesying now, some church
leaders and prayer contractors will take it
to them to get money, to get oil blocks
and buy aeroplanes for themselves. That
will not solve the problem.


Despite the health cha-llenges, you
still talk like this. When are you ever
going to get tired?


I can’t be tired. They have tried me. I
was the only one condemning Sani
Abacha. One day they sent one brig-adier
to me, I was in my house. As he came, I
said something is in your stomach, he said
yes, Sir. They said you should come and
arrest me, he said yes Sir. I said but you
have a daughter, he said yes sir. That day,
my phone just stopped working I know it
was their handiwork. When he came, God
revealed to me and I told him you are
going to land into problem, your oga will
die.
Before Abacha died, one Austin came to
me. He said he has a friend of Abubakar, I
said he’s going to be next president and
Abacha would die, and it happened.
There’s nobody that God cannot catch. If
100 pastors and mallams are praying for
them, they can’t survive. God is about to
move if they don’t change and repent
because they have put us under bondage
for long. These pastors, let them change.
They will say we are Pentecostals, that
doesn’t mean you cannot speak truth.
There was a time it was only me and
Idahosa that were speaking during
Babangida’s era. Most of these pastors
that were condemning prophec-ies, are
now prophesing. Where did they see it?
Jealousy and envy are the things killing
them.


What is your own assessment of late
Pa Obadare?


He’s a man of God. He’s one of the
chosen men of God, a soul winner, has
the fear of God. That’s one of the gifts of
the Holy Spirit. He was a blind man and
was quoting the Bible. A good preacher of
God. He’s one of the best in the Body of
Christ that we miss.