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Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 5:45pm On Oct 28, 2013
Medical practitioners under the aegis of the Medical and Dental Consultants Association of Nigeria have asked the National Industrial Court in Abuja to nullify the appointment of some non-medical doctors as consultants.
A panel comprising three Justices of the court headed by Justice B.A Adejumo had in its judgment on July 22, 2013, affirmed the Consultant designation conferred on some of the non-medical doctors.

But MDCAN in its post-judgment application dated October 9, 2013, has asked the court to declare the judgment as “null and void”.

Through its counsel, Mr. Jiti Ogunye, MDCAN argued that the enforcement of the judgment would have effect on the functioning its members.

It therefore contended that failure to join it as a necessary party in the suit, NICN/ABJ/238/2012, which led to the judgment, amounted to being “denied fair hearing”.
MDCAN also argued that the court lacked jurisdiction to hear the suit because the reliefs sought bordered on “appointment of non-medically qualified health professionals as consultants in the Federal Government institutions and the rights of such appointees to receive specialist allowances.”

An affidavit by Dr. O.S.A Oluwole filed in support of the suit stated, “This application is of extreme urgency and it ought to be determined timely in the interest of care of patients. http://www.punchng.com/news/court-asked-to-nullify-non-doctors-appointment-as-consultants/
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 8:04pm On Oct 28, 2013
Bunch of fooools. Impedeing the growth of other health workers is their joy.
Useless doctorrs

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Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Samgreguc(m): 8:36pm On Oct 28, 2013
Bad belles. . . .
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Lagusta(m): 9:30am On Oct 29, 2013
BushyA55.Banger:
Bunch of fooools. Impedeing the growth of other health workers is their joy.
Useless doctorrs

Hey, things you know nothing about, don't spew trash about it......


are you trying trying to tell me that a primary school certificate holder can become a honorary consultant, just because he became a counsellor and built a primary health centre in his Ward

Does this bullcrap happen in other countries


Na Wa oooo
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 10:27am On Oct 29, 2013
Lagusta:

Hey, things you know nothing about, don't spew trash about it......


are you trying trying to tell me that a primary school certificate holder can become a honorary consultant, just because he became a counsellor and built a primary health centre in his Ward

Does this bullcrap happen in other countries


Na Wa oooo
sweetheart, ur seniors are wicked and selfish!
Talk to dem!
Thieves
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 3:41pm On Oct 29, 2013
Hia

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Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 3:45pm On Oct 29, 2013
Lagusta:

Hey, things you know nothing about, don't spew trash about it......


are you trying trying to tell me that a primary school certificate holder can become a honorary consultant, just because he became a counsellor and built a primary health centre in his Ward

Does this bullcrap happen in other countries


Na Wa oooo
go to Google and type consultant biochemist, consultant economist, consultant pharmacist, consultant nurse, consultant engineers. etc. you will see what happens in sane countries. are the above more educated than other medical workers? just because healthcare is multidisciplinary does not mean others shouldn't reach the peak of their career. I used to have respect for you, but you just lost that cos of this myopic statement. let's wait and see how this plays out. hope our dear "medically qualified"consultants won't be put to shame like the ARD. I think the problem with our Nigerian physicians is English language. consultant means an expert in a particular field,who gives professional advice or services. so nobody is dragging to be a consultant in medicine with them as they are the experts in that. live and let's live is the motto.

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Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 3:47pm On Oct 29, 2013
prettyprettywow: go to Google and type consultant biochemist, consultant economist, consultant pharmacist, consultant nurse, consultant engineers. etc. you will see what happens in sane countries. are the above more educated than other medical workers? just because healthcare is multidisciplinary does not mean others shouldn't reach the peak of their career. I used to have respect for you, but you just lost that cos of this myopic statement. let's wait and see how this plays out. hope our dear "medically qualified"consultants won't be put to shame like the ARD. I think the problem with our Nigerian physicians is English language. consultant means an expert in a particular field,who gives professional advice or services. so nobody is dragging to be a consultant in medicine with them as they are the experts in that. live and let's live is the motor.
nice one!
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by deols(f): 5:07pm On Oct 29, 2013
prettyprettywow: go to Google and type consultant biochemist, consultant economist, consultant pharmacist, consultant nurse, consultant engineers. etc. you will see what happens in sane countries. are the above more educated than other medical workers? just because healthcare is multidisciplinary does not mean others shouldn't reach the peak of their career. I used to have respect for you, but you just lost that cos of this myopic statement. let's wait and see how this plays out. hope our dear "medically qualified"consultants won't be put to shame like the ARD. I think the problem with our Nigerian physicians is English language. consultant means an expert in a particular field,who gives professional advice or services. so nobody is dragging to be a consultant in medicine with them as they are the experts in that. live and let's live is the motto.

The ones I know of go to medical school before specialising on those medical sciences. They have the broad knowledge of medicine and can truly be consultants.

Most of my lecturers during basic medicine graduated medical school before further studies in physiology, biochemistry, pharmacology, etc

That does make their qualification as consultant physiologist etc reasonable.

But I cannot confirm that it happens that way in all cases.
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 5:20pm On Oct 29, 2013
deols:

The ones I know of go to medical school before specialising on those medical sciences. They have the broad knowledge of medicine and can truly be consultants.

Most of my lecturers during basic medicine graduated medical school before further studies in physiology, biochemistry, pharmacology, etc

That does make their qualification as consultant physiologist etc reasonable.

But I cannot confirm that it happens that way in all cases.
so consultants in engineering, economics.pharmacy and nursing all went to medical school first? lol. like I wrote earlier, go and check the meaning of consultant first before typing. Google is your friend. I still wonder how some people try to bend the truth. You left the examples I gave and just managed to steer your argument to consultants in medicine, leaving the points I raised..
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 5:29pm On Oct 29, 2013
prettyprettywow: so consultants in engineering, economics.pharmacy and nursing all went to medical school first? lol. like I wrote earlier, go and check the meaning of consultant first before typing. Google is your friend. I still wonder how some people try to bend the truth. You left the examples I gave and just managed to steer your argument to consultants in medicine, leaving the points I raised..
ride on! We are behind u
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Lagusta(m): 5:45pm On Oct 29, 2013
You make me laugh!!!

Like I said before, things you know nothing about, don't spill maggots about it....

well, it's the real consultants that started it, giving honorary awards to people Who don't dserve $h!t....

and who's talking about consultant engineers, biochemists, etc

Please get your facts right before coming to show some more ignorance....

prettyprettywow: so consultants in engineering, economics.pharmacy and nursing all went to medical school first? lol. like I wrote earlier, go and check the meaning of consultant first before typing. Google is your friend. I still wonder how some people try to bend the truth. You left the examples I gave and just managed to steer your argument to consultants in medicine, leaving the points I raised..
prettyprettywow: go to Google and type consultant biochemist, consultant economist, consultant pharmacist, consultant nurse, consultant engineers. etc. you will see what happens in sane countries. are the above more educated than other medical workers? just because healthcare is multidisciplinary does not mean others shouldn't reach the peak of their career. I used to have respect for you, but you just lost that cos of this myopic statement. let's wait and see how this plays out. hope our dear "medically qualified"consultants won't be put to shame like the ARD. I think the problem with our Nigerian physicians is English language. consultant means an expert in a particular field,who gives professional advice or services. so nobody is dragging to be a consultant in medicine with them as they are the experts in that. live and let's live is the motto.
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 6:16pm On Oct 29, 2013
Mr know it all, why won't we talk about other consultants? ain't we emulating the developed nations anymore? like I said earlier, the problem is English language. let's wait and see how things play out. no need arguing with your likes as the matter is already in court. remember, a day begins a story. we shall soon hear how the mighty has fallen.
Lagusta: You make me laugh!!!

Like I said before, things you know nothing about, don't spill maggots about it....

well, it's the real consultants that started it, giving honorary awards to people Who don't dserve $h!t....

and who's talking about consultant engineers, biochemists, etc

Please get your facts right before coming to show some more ignorance....

Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by STORM2(f): 7:08pm On Oct 29, 2013
Hahahahaha....kai is it the definition of "consultant" that is bringing problems? Obviously the word "consultant" cannot always refer to a medical doctor na....this shouldn't be an issue.
We have consultant physicians (paedotricians, ER, gyny , ENT etc)
Consultant dental surgeons
Consultant virologists, parasitologists, microbiologists ,biochemists and engineers etc.
In the case of the hospitals..a clear distinction should be made that's all. Consultant physician....or consultant......fill in the blank. The problem in is nigeria no doctor wants to seek help from a biochemist. That's not really their fault...its the naija educational system we should blame for that I guess.
Abroad a doctor can see a microorganism he/she isn't quite familiar with and decide to get more information from a consultant microbiologist (usually phD holders and professors) but in naija...ah! No go there lol...no worries though...that will change eventually. As we become more exposed as a country I guess. Cos nobody can be completely versed in everything...haba na winsh?

But having said all this.....a doctor can have 2 degrees..like a degree in microbiology and a degree in mbbs....hmmm complication undecided

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Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by joshuapharm(m): 7:23pm On Oct 29, 2013
Dr Lagusta disappointed me today sha. Would av started construction of my usual arguments but it's useless doing that. Reality'll dawn on them *smh* Thought u knew better!
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Lagusta(m): 8:11pm On Oct 29, 2013
joshuapharm: Dr Lagusta disappointed me today sha. Would av started construction of my usual arguments but it's useless doing that. Reality'll dawn on them *smh* Thought u knew better!

grin grin grin

Sorry I disappointed you jare.....

but wait, this article is not referring to consultant biochemists etc, it is referring to foooooools that were given honorary consultants, even if they didn't smell a university gate......

Or am I mixing things up here??
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 8:24pm On Oct 29, 2013
FOOLS? smh4u. So much bitterness.
Lagusta:

grin grin grin

Sorry I disappointed you jare.....

but wait, this article is not referring to consultant biochemists etc, it is referring to foooooools that were given honorary consultants, even if they didn't smell a university gate......

Or am I mixing things up here??
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Lagusta(m): 9:04pm On Oct 29, 2013
prettyprettywow: FOOLS? smh4u. So much bitterness.

Do you even know Who I'm referring to??

I am talking about the bloodthirsty politicians, Who after building a makeshift primary health centre, become honorary consultants in public health, and them no get waec certificates....

Or What do you think I am talking about....
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 11:42pm On Oct 29, 2013
I wonder why a lady goes about insulting doctors @ the slightest bid, but nurses the ambition to marry one. I saw it play out in service were certain girls talk like they know so much about medicine yet flock about doctors trying to rip them off the little cash they got from house job or seeking marriage proposal. They are vampires and hell is not far from their hearts. Paying specialist allowance to a honorary position is as dumb as it gets. A hospital consultant or medical consultant is different from a mere self professed consultant adding no extra value, besides running a test I wonder the input of a consultant lab scientist @ least there's a consultant pathologist to consult ( a pathologist is a medical doctor same with a consultant haematologist, microbiologist and chemical pathologist) or whether a consultant nurse will dress her patients bed with gold!, there are specialist nurses abroad it takes a year to become one, so cnt be paid same specialist allowance with a medical consultant who have trained 6yrs or more. Its just sad that in Nigeria the corruption in the civil service is creeping into the federal hospitals, while doctors and pharmacists are studying their heads out, the other health team are imbibing the tenets of corruption. Shell metabolic lab is runned by a consultant chemical pathologist (medical doctor), same with chevron, I wonder why the health workers have not fought or protested there. But when it comes to the corrupt Nigerian civil service even the driver wants to be called a pilot. God save us. And if you love to be a docs wife or hanging around with doctswhy spend ur years insulting and maiming doctors online, there's karma and it'll catch up with u one day, u know yourself.... Blessings
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by deols(f): 3:49am On Oct 30, 2013
prettyprettywow: so consultants in engineering, economics.pharmacy and nursing all went to medical school first? lol. like I wrote earlier, go and check the meaning of consultant first before typing. Google is your friend. I still wonder how some people try to bend the truth. You left the examples I gave and just managed to steer your argument to consultants in medicine, leaving the points I raised..

The context is in medical practice.

btw, your bitterness is too pronounced. can you lower it down?
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by prettyprettywow: 4:14am On Oct 30, 2013
pele
deols:

The context is in medica practice.

btw, your bitterness is too pronounced. can you lower it down?
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 7:08am On Oct 30, 2013
prettyprettywow: cry cry baby.
honeypies, let him cryyyyyy. He wants more money and position promotion, so cryyy
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 30, 2013
Let see who has the last laugh, the illitrates thinking consultant is biscuit and sweet licking or the medical consultants who have toiled hard and are reaping the reward by being called by several companies to work 4 them and consult in their clinics. I wonder where the consultant lab scientist or nurse will be needed apart from the hospital he or she works and the kiosk he calls private lab or maternity. Am having the last laugh 4 nw let see what the future hold. Am almost PLABBED out so any gbege I have the certification to run. Apart from that we are all friends. Blessings.
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Nobody: 1:31pm On Oct 30, 2013
dr_joshua2000: Let see who has the last laugh, the illitrates thinking consultant is biscuit and sweet licking or the medical consultants who have toiled hard and are reaping the reward by being called by several companies to work 4 them and consult in their clinics. I wonder where the consultant lab scientist or nurse will be needed apart from the hospital he or she works and the kiosk he calls private lab or maternity. Am having the last laugh 4 nw let see what the future hold. Am almost PLABBED out so any gbege I have the certification to run. Apart from that we are all friends. Blessings.
wat is this one saying
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by chuksbogus: 3:32pm On Oct 31, 2013
? DR JOSHUA 2000 AND LAGUSTA. I think the primodial urge to fight other health professions have robed you guys your common senses. for heaven sack they are talking of consultant , nurse, pharmacists ect. they are not consultants in medicine.they are consultants in their own proffession and u from another profession is saying that they should not be.
to start with u dont even know d criteria required to be a consultant nurse or pharmacist.doctors set their criteria to be a consultant and so the other proffessions. wat ever their yardsticks are to be a consultant is not ur problem at all. in developed countries u have nurse specialist, consultant nurse etc. any judge even charge and bail will just look at that case and throw it away.their positions and rank did not in anyway infring on the right of d dr.consultant is an english word and they attatched it to their profession which is nurse or pharmacy etc. so pls could u both tell this house how this affected drs and their consultants. see the more u guys keep shouting lion lion when their is none the day lion will come and u shout nobody will come to you guyses aid as the whole country is use to drs crying when no one beat them.
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by chuksbogus: 3:58pm On Oct 31, 2013
deols:

The context is in medical practice.

btw, your bitterness is too pronounced. can you lower it down?


DEOLS the context is not in medical practice ok. the context is in their proffession. learn that nursing , pharmacy etc are not medical proffessions ok. nursing profession , pharmacy are proffession on their own so is medical profession which is for drs. all are health proffessions so dnt let the urge to put other proffession down prevent u from being educated that u claim to be
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by deols(f): 4:55pm On Oct 31, 2013
chuksbogus:


DEOLS the context is not in medical practice ok. the context is in their proffession. learn that nursing , pharmacy etc are not medical proffessions ok. nursing profession , pharmacy are proffession on their own so is medical profession which is for drs. all are health proffessions so dnt let the urge to put other proffession down prevent u from being educated that u claim to be

I meant health profession.
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Lagusta(m): 7:24pm On Oct 31, 2013
chuksbogus: ? DR JOSHUA 2000 AND LAGUSTA. I think the primodial urge to fight other health professions have robed you guys your common senses. for heaven sack they are talking of consultant , nurse, pharmacists ect. they are not consultants in medicine.they are consultants in their own proffession and u from another profession is saying that they should not be.
to start with u dont even know d criteria required to be a consultant nurse or pharmacist.doctors set their criteria to be a consultant and so the other proffessions. wat ever their yardsticks are to be a consultant is not ur problem at all. in developed countries u have nurse specialist, consultant nurse etc. any judge even charge and bail will just look at that case and throw it away.their positions and rank did not in anyway infring on the right of d dr.consultant is an english word and they attatched it to their profession which is nurse or pharmacy etc. so pls could u both tell this house how this affected drs and their consultants. see the more u guys keep shouting lion lion when their is none the day lion will come and u shout nobody will come to you guyses aid as the whole country is use to drs crying when no one beat them.

Oh, for God's sake, Who is talking about consultants in the health field, didn't you read my post.....

I know there are consultant nurses and pharmacist, I have no problem with that......

The problem I have is with the bloody politicians and thugs who are given honorary consultant posts, and are also receiving entitlements from that, where is the sense there

Please, nobody should mention my name here again.....
Re: Consultant Doctors Asked Court To Nulify Non-doctor's Appointmnt As Consultants by Lagusta(m): 7:24pm On Oct 31, 2013
chuksbogus: ? DR JOSHUA 2000 AND LAGUSTA. I think the primodial urge to fight other health professions have robed you guys your common senses. for heaven sack they are talking of consultant , nurse, pharmacists ect. they are not consultants in medicine.they are consultants in their own proffession and u from another profession is saying that they should not be.
to start with u dont even know d criteria required to be a consultant nurse or pharmacist.doctors set their criteria to be a consultant and so the other proffessions. wat ever their yardsticks are to be a consultant is not ur problem at all. in developed countries u have nurse specialist, consultant nurse etc. any judge even charge and bail will just look at that case and throw it away.their positions and rank did not in anyway infring on the right of d dr.consultant is an english word and they attatched it to their profession which is nurse or pharmacy etc. so pls could u both tell this house how this affected drs and their consultants. see the more u guys keep shouting lion lion when their is none the day lion will come and u shout nobody will come to you guyses aid as the whole country is use to drs crying when no one beat them.

Oh, for God's sake, Who is talking about consultants in the health field, didn't you read my post.....

I know there are consultant nurses and pharmacist, I have no problem with that......

The problem I have is with the bloody politicians and thugs who are given honorary consultant posts, and are also receiving entitlements from that, where is the sense there

Please, nobody should mention my name here again.....

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