The story will normally say that the Igboman came from West Africa to the south of Nigeria.
that isnt enough to say where he originated from.

The Aro-Chukwu long juju also found in Isreal
NRI in Anambara also found on the Cross of Christ in Isreal
Ta nwata kulite nu'ura also spoken in Isreal (with same meaning) by Christ Himself to Tabita Tali takumi
The Igbo karate and temperamental reaction similar to Jesus' active karate at the temple when He caught people selling and buying
how we are hated by the whole world excluding Isreal is similar to how the world (excluding Biafra and US) hates Isreal
How Isreal helped Biafra during the Biafran war

All point to Igboman's link with Isreal not "to Isreal" as people claim we are Isrealis. I think that We were the original owners of Egypt. we probably were the real Egyptians before the Arabs stole the place from us.
remember all the similarities with Isreal might have occured when we took them to slave. Remember Jesus lived in Egypt when He was a Baby and might have learnt our language.

Consider all our other idol worship and that of Egypt of old. our Oha/Ora Anya awu vs the sun worship in Egypt of Old.

Add your idea lets trace our old kingdom please

fresh-B:



The Aro-Chukwu long juju also found in Isreal

am intrested in this.Pray,tell me more

Oh yeah man. That was the first suprise the oyinbos had when they landed in Aro-Chukwu. and remember the Aros began takin and sellin into slave (my apologies) their victims who went to enquire from Abiama. just as they did when they were in Egypt in which time the world (including Rome and Greece) would come to learn the Egyptian mysteries

So how come una no sabi build pyramid again?

we did. now we still do. if read me koolly youd understand i mentioned oha/ora anya'awu. we use the natural trees such as the oha/ora to worship the sun. we stopped buildin the pyramid maybe because our forefatrhers thought that it might be another wasted resources and time as we suffered a huge loss after the Romans and the world looted our pyramid and took them to Rome. Go to Saint Peters in Rome, that thing (pyramid) you see there is ours

hmmm- anyone following this guy as a result of some misplaced tribal enthusiasm, will only have themselves to blame when he reveals the true nature of his mental ailment.

yes, I'm saying this because I'm an Igbo hater.

you hate Igbos? you mean you hate the Chosen Ones? since the entire world couldnt, you are on zero over 1000000

I hear they found symbols similar to symbols of the ancient Israelite tribe of Naphtali in the Igbo ukwu escavations.
let me see if I find the link

there seems to be so much controversy over this israel thing. me, i am igbo. i consider myself igbo. period. i really am not keen on this israel thing at all. i like israel, yes, but i don't want to be claiming another person's race. i'm igbo and proud of it. i love being igbo.

however, something has caught my fancy since i came to the US last month. BabyO may be u can help me out here. . .
i heard about the "igbo landing" have you heard any such story? it was said to be in I803 when igbo slaves from africa chose to commit suicide instead of a life of slavery. they drowned off the coast of south carolina. is it true?

i hear it is being celebrated by some blacks in south carolina. is it true?can you feed me in on this?

Yes Toshman,the Ibo landing story is so true.
I hope to visit that place someday.
There's also an Ibo something in Haiti and I heard from a Haitian that their history has it that the Ibo slaves from the Americas were very defiant and fought against their owners before they were shipped off to Haiti

Ibime:

So how come una no sabi build pyramid again?

Take a look at these pictures taken in 1935 from the archives of a universityhttp://csweb.bournemouth.ac.uk/africanlegacy/culture.htm

wow, na wa o

fresh-B:

Oh yeah man. That was the first suprise the oyinbos had when they landed in Aro-Chukwu. and remember the Aros began takin and sellin into slave (my apologies) their victims who went to enquire from Abiama. just as they did when they were in Egypt in which time the world (including Rome and Greece) would come to learn the Egyptian mysteries

oh yeah gal
"taa nwata kulie",another hilarious line

Ya its truelly hilarious but truelly said. I do know that a very high number claim we are Isrealis and i should to think so. but second thought tells me that God foretold that all Hebrew in a foreign land where He scatterd them to will surely make an Aaliyah (thats returin to the Holy Land of YAHWEH. To me the real Isrealites have been returnin from Poland, Germany, Us etc. No Igbo race has made any Aaliyah.

To me those similarities in culture occured during the slave period when the Hebrews lived in Egypt.
I never saw those pyramid posted here before. those were the great work of the Igboman as he did in Egypt.
In Ezekiel 23: 20, God talkin about Oholibah's and Oholah's promiscuous lives refered to the Egyptain's genitals as those of donkeys and whose emission like that of horses.
Please tell me who else could have such huge and hard manhood with such fluid. Remember that both in Nigeria and other parts of the world we are clearly and distinctively known to have such Gift

@ Poster,

Very interesting thread, I guess we the Igbo youth learn new things about our culture they never thought us in school everyday.



@ All the young Igbo girls in America, run and hide because *TOSHMANN* aka woman wrapper is now in America. The guy although nice is a womanizer and will do anything possible to get you under the sheets [ Run and don't look back]


@ Queenisha,

I see you don change your name again. Anyways how your body and your oga hope say heat no dey hammer una for there.

Queenisha:

Take a look at these pictures taken in 1935 from the archives of a university

These look like Yam storage houses, not pyramids

They are barely double the size of the woman standing there and they are not in homage to any dead person or God.

There is nothing Egyptian about the Ibo. We were born here and we will die here in West Africa. Firstly, we do not have desert features. We have wide nose and squat broad shoulders. If the Ibo were in Egypt and Egypt was invaded, they would settle in Sudan. Nobody from desert regions comes down to settle in tropical forests. The black people of Egypt are still there in Kush, Sudan. Many people all over the world worship The Sun God aka Nimrod, from Babylon to Iceland to South America, so it is not unique to the Ibo. If you want to look at pyramid structures, the Inca, Aztecs and Mayans have a lot more in common with the ancient Egyptians, even having their own pyramids and worshipping The Sun God as their one and only God.

However, I have a question - why are some Ibo fair skinned?

These look like Yam storage houses, not pyramids Grin Grin Grin

They are barely double the size of the woman standing there and they are not in homage to any dead person or God.

There is nothing Egyptian about the Ibo. We were born here and we will die here in West Africa. Firstly, we do not have desert features. We have wide nose and squat broad shoulders. If the Ibo were in Egypt and Egypt was invaded, they would settle in Sudan. Nobody from desert regions comes down to settle in tropical forests. The black people of Egypt are still there in Kush, Sudan. Many people all over the world worship The Sun God aka Nimrod, from Babylon to Iceland to South America, so it is not unique to the Ibo. If you want to look at pyramid structures, the Inca, Aztecs and Mayans have a lot more in common with the ancient Egyptians, even having their own pyramids and worshipping The Sun God as their one and only God.

Ok

However, I have a question - why are some Ibo fair skinned?

Most of them are fair skinned because they have a questionable genomes. I heard(na rumor) the white slave masters got many of their women pregnant during slave trade and that is why majority of them are fair skinned.

DeepZone:

Ok

Most of them are fair skinned because they have a questionable genomes. I heard(na rumor) the white slave masters got many of their women pregnant during slave trade and that is why majority of them are fair skinned.

Say what. . .?

Chineke God of Saudi Arabia!!!!!!

Freewilly:

@ All the young Igbo girls in America, run and hide because *TOSHMANN* aka woman wrapper is now in America. The guy although nice is a womanizer and will do anything possible to get you under the sheets [ Run and don't look back]

my enemies . . they have pursued me . . even in america . . . my enemies are widespread

@Freewilly 
where have u been?

some say they are fair skinned because of an albino gene. I don't know about that, since there are plenty of (non-Igbo)families with fair skin and green/hazel eyes who have no albinos among them.

Moreover, Tanzania seems to have an unusually high number of albinos in their population, but I don't know what percentage of the population is fair skinned. Even the Indian I know from there, is dark, talkless the blacks themselves.

personally, I'd think its more related to the environment.



@ Fresh B- yes oh. Igbo hater na my title. So take note.  And take your medication. You went to Rome, and they told you the pyramid in St Peter's basilica is from your side?

are you my good friend aba4life?

some say they are fair skinned because of an albino gene. I don't know about that, since there are plenty of (non-Igbo)families with fair skin and green/hazel eyes who have no albinos among them.

Moreover, Tanzania seems to have an unusually high number of albinos in their population, but I don't know what percentage of the population is fair skinned. Even the Indian I know from there, is dark, talkless the blacks themselves.

personally, I'd think its more related to the environment.

fair skin has nothing to do with albino gene. That's just a flawed science and even the environment will not hold because ibos born and bred in Ilesha are very light skinned while most of my people including me a very dark skinned. If environment is the factor, that means those ibos that were born and raised in the west should be considerably dark skinned and those yorubas born and bred in the east suppose dey yellow.

DeepZone:

fair skin has nothing to do with albino gene. That's just a flawed science and even the environment will not hold because ibos born and bred in Ilesha are very light skinned while most of my people including me a very dark skinned. If environment is the factor, that means those ibos that were born and raised in the west should be considerably dark skinned and those yorubas born and bred in the east suppose dey yellow.

You're really pushing your 'white man copulation' concept, aren't ya? Let's assume for one drug induced moment that it is true, do you have any idea how many Igbo women that will 'copulate' with oyibo for that to happen? That would be impossible considering the ration of the two back then (Oyibo vs Igbo women) except if the small number of oyibo men have 'wee wee' that can function non stop even when they 'quench' 'on top'.

B- t - w that Igbo 'light skinned' thing I believe is another stereotype, just like the black man with the big wee wee. . . if not you, wanna tell me why I see chocolate when I look at my skin? Abi Oga God forgot about me when he was dipping others into the strawberry and orange mixing pot?

You're really pushing your 'white man copulation' concept, aren't ya? Let's assume for one drug induced moment that it is true, do you have any idea how many Igbo women that will 'copulate' with oyibo for that to happen? That would be impossible considering the ration of the two back then (Oyibo vs Igbo women) except if the small number of oyibo men have 'wee wee' that can function non stop even when they 'quench' 'on top'. Grin

B- t - w that Igbo 'light skinned' thing I believe is another stereotype, just like the black man with the big wee wee. . . if not you, want to tell me why I see chocolate when I look at my skin? Abi Oga God forgot about me when he was dipping others into the strawberry and orange mixing pot?

Of course you and I know I wasn't serious about the ibo women and white men copulation. But stereotype or not, about 70% of ibos, ibibios and efiks are light skinned and we want to know why people from that SE/SS area of Nigeria are like that. Are they related? to further push the argument, look at the Itsekiris that are pseudo yorubas and you'll notice that over 80% of them are dark skinned like us even after centuries of emigrating from yorubaland. Why are itsekiris generally looking different among the Delta people?

Of course you and I know I wasn't serious about the ibo women and white men copulation. But stereotype or not, about 70% of ibos, ibibios and efiks are light skinned and we want to know why people from that SE/SS area of Nigeria are like that. Are they related? to further push the argument, look at the Itsekiris that are pseudo yorubas and you'll notice that over 80% of them are dark skinned like us even after centuries of emigrating from yorubaland. Why are itsekiris generally looking different among the Delta people?

I think it is just a happenstance. Just like the mediterianians tend to be darker than the Scandinavians.

I think it is just a happenstance. Just like the mediterianians tend to be darker than the Scandinavians.

I still think it's genetic. Does it mean that the genetic composition of an ibo man who is a negro is different from that of a yoruba man who is a fellow negro? God performed wonders in His creation.

Only cretins believe Igbos originate from Israel or Egypt.

DeepZone:

I still think it's genetic. Does it mean that the genetic composition of an ibo man who is a negro is different from that of a yoruba man who is a fellow negro? God performed wonders in His creation.

before I joined nairaland, I never knew Osun indigenes are supposed to be generally dark. I know quite a few of them who are, but to me, its like saying all hausas are dark, when some of them are not. Or like saying all Fulanis are light, when in reality they have both light and dark people, and its hard to tell if the lighter skinned ones outnumber the darker people.

However, since the general consensus here seems to be that Osun people are darker than normal, I'll go with that. They have some dark and sexy males, though.

DeepZone:

fair skin has nothing to do with albino gene. That's just a flawed science and even the environment will not hold because ibos born and bred in Ilesha are very light skinned while most of my people including me a very dark skinned. If environment is the factor, that means those ibos that were born and raised in the west should be considerably dark skinned and those yorubas born and bred in the east suppose dey yellow.

By environment, I mean the soil. Some parts of Igboland have reddish earth, which seems peculiar to the area. As a kid, I used to wonder how their yams grew so big in red soil, because the soil in the west (Yorubaland) is dark loam, and I noticed the difference.

Anyway, its just a theory of mine - nothing serious and neither is it set in stone.








@ the white men getting black women pregnant theory: yes, some people along the coast could have some Portuguese, British or Spanish  genes somewhere in their genealogy, but that doesnt quite explain the abundance of light skin. And there are parts of Yorubaland where people tend to have lighter skins as well. Some Nupes are also light. _{unless we want to attribute the lightness in these places to Arab/tuareg influence from the north.}

In any case, light skin coming from a non-black ancestor, tends to fade if the white blood isnt continued. ie its not as pronounced in third and fourth generation, for example, unless the biracial marries a white. Look at Obama's kids- They are neither light nor dark- just medium. So without a direct injection of white blood, the offspring tend not to have the same degree of lightness as their biracial parent. _{barring native soap of course.}

However, if the biracial population is intermarrying steadily, then there's more chance of the light skin popping up all over the place. This doesnt seem to be the case with the light skin we're talking about here. it seems to be occurring naturally among blacks without any obvious white blood, and also seems more common in women, though plenty of men are also light skinned.

grafikdon:

You're really pushing your 'white man copulation' concept, aren't ya? Let's assume for one drug induced moment that it is true, do you have any idea how many Igbo women that will 'copulate' with oyibo for that to happen? That would be impossible considering the ration of the two back then (Oyibo vs Igbo women) except if the small number of oyibo men have 'wee wee' that can function non stop even when they 'quench' 'on top'.

B- t - w that Igbo 'light skinned' thing I believe is another stereotype, just like the black man with the big wee wee. . . if not you, want to tell me why I see chocolate when I look at my skin? Abi Oga God forgot about me when he was dipping others into the strawberry and orange mixing pot?

grafikdon
abi o, when i look my skin as i black like idi amin i come de wonder wether i no be igbo
abi i be hybrid
pls there are dark skinned igbos too . . .like me. and the majority of igbos are dark skinned. igbos may have more light skinned people than . . say . . hausas or yorubas . . . but the majority of igbos are dark skinned. i belong to that majority. and i love my skin

i am handsome
yes, na me talk am

@Toshmann

Check your parentage well

Infact, just like I suggested, we all came originally from Sudan. Every single one of us in Nigeria:



If Niger-Congo is a branch of the Nilo-Saharan proto-language, as has been suggested, then it gives credence to the argument that the ancient language differentiation of Africa took place in prehistory in the regions of the Nile-Valley and the Old Sahara grasslands, and not in the vicinity of the Niger-Benue confluence. Since, according to the language studies, Ijo and Dogon branched from the Niger-Congo at a very early stage (5th generation) it demonstrates the relative antiquity of the Ijo and Dogon language groups in time, compared to Yoruba, Igala, Edo and Igbo which formed in the 8th generation. Cultural and language studies of the Ijo and Dogon link them up to the founders of the Ancient Nile Valley Civilisations from about 10,000 BCE. Thus it seems that the language differentiation of Ijo and Dogon from a parent language derived from the Nile-Saharan proto-language, took place in the ancient Sudan in the valley of the Nile from whence the ancestors dispersed to different parts of the African continent. Of course other factors were at play that led to language differentiation, such as the use of specific cultic terminology. What the aforementioned demonstrates is that the ancestors of the Ijos have lived in isolation of the Yoruba, Edo, Igbo and Igala for generations before meeting up again in the vicinity of West Africa (Niger Benue region). If the language differentiation took place in West Africa there would not be a deep time separation between Ijo and the rest of them. Thus the languages were already differentiated before the ancient people met in the Niger/Benue region.

The absence of the anatomical remains of early human beings, and the lack of evidence for stone-age and bronze age cultures in the West Africa region, rules out any claims by a group of people, to be truly autochones or aboriginal to West Africa. All West African peoples migrated to the area at one time or another, from, either North, East
or South Africa, as such, West Africa has been peopled at different times by successive waves of migration from East Africa and North Africa/Sahara region respectively.

Taking the combined evidence of language studies, ancestral tradition, anthropology and archaeology, it is certain that by at least 2000 BCE the West Africa region was being peopled. As to who arrived first is of no consequence as the land-mass is too vast for any one group of people to lay claim to ownership. By 1000 BCE we have the emergence of the Lake Chad civilisation of Daima and the Nok Culture of the Niger/Benue Confluence.

We can also discern a number of ancient peoples who entered the area of the Niger & Benue roughly about the same time. They include the following:

The Ancient ORU People: From language and cultural studies they seem to have been related to the Dogon and the founders of the Great Nile Valley civilisation complex (and possibly the lake Chad complex).

The Ancient KWA People: who seem to have been the founders of the Nok civilisation complex. The ORU and the KWA people belonged to the branch of African people often referred to as Sudanese or Nilotic Negroes.


Lastly the Ancient Bantu: who migrated from East/Central Africa. The ORU people are the proto-ancestors of the Ijos, while the KWA people branched out further to produce[b] the UGBO people (proto-ancestors of the Yoruba, Igbo and Igala) and the EFA people (proto-ancestors of the Edos).[/b] The Bantu and Semi-Batu people were the proto-ancestors of other Nigeria peoples that live side by side with the Major Ethnic nationalities of Southern Nigeria. There were, of course other ancient peoples who were migrating into the West Africa region, but the aforementioned ones serve the purpose of tracing the origins of the Ijos, Yoruba, Edo and Igbo.







http://www.ijawdictionary.com/menu/TheIjoGenesis.pdf

@4pay

what else can i expect from a man u fanatic

we are 6 in my family, three are light skinned . . mama, first son and first daughter.
three are dark skinned . . . . papa, 2nd son and 3rd son

toshmann collect dark skin share
abi i no be igbo again