culled from the work of
SALAUDEEN, Abdul-Hakeem Saffar

“ Until Death comes to one of
them, he says: ‘O my lord! Send
me back (to life)- in order that I
may work righteously in the thing
I neglected. By no means! It is
but a word he says. Before them
is a partition (Bar’zakh) till they
are raised up ”.
) Q: 23 V: 99-100 (
ﻢﺴﺑ ﻦﻤﺣﺮﻟﺍ ﻪﻠﻟﺍ ﻢﻴﺣﺮﻟﺍ
What is“Akudaya ”?
“Akudaya” is known in Yoruba
socio-linguistic hypothesis as
returning, transformation, or
transmigration of a dead person
into a living being post his
untimely death .
The belief in Akudaya is one of
the metaphysical psychologies in
Africa most especially Nigeria,
and Yoruba culture as a case
study. It is strongly belied in
Africa, being a multi-religio-
cultural society, in her
polytheistic convictions on the
unseen and celestial creeds that
an untimely murdered person can
still metaphysically transmigrate
into the worldly existence. This
sort of supernatural
transformation is mythically
conceptualized in yoruba cultural
ideology as “Akudaya ” .
Akudayaism (reincarnation or
transmigration ideology) is not
restricted to African alone,
according to “Encarta Premium
Suite encyclopedia (2004)”,
“Reincarnation (Akudaya) and
transmigration or rebirths (Abiku)
of a soul in a new body
(especially in a new human body)
are roughly synonymous .
The word ‘metamorphosis’ is not
synonymous to ‘reincarnation’
and ‘transmigration’ for being the
opposite. It is the transformation
of a living being in to another
form or substance of life (as a
person into a tree); resurrection,
on the other hand, especially the
Islamic doctrine of resurrection,
is the rising again to life of the
body after death for receipt of
rewards- Paradise or Hell .
Transmigration, passing of the
soul at death into a new body or
new form of being, is not
restricted to the African beliefs
alone, the ancient Egyptians also
believed in it. Little wonder! That
is why their dead were embalmed
in order to preserve the body so
that it might accompany the Ka,
an animating force that was the
counterpart of the body, into the
next world .
It (transmigration) was also, in
the ancient Greeks, a doctrine
closely associated with the
followers of the philosopher and
mathematician Pythagoras. The
soul, according to the
Pythagorean teaching, being
immortal and merely confined to
the body, survived bodily death.
After a series of rebirths, in other
bodies, each rebirth following a
period of purification in the
underworld, the soul becomes
free eternally from the cycle of
.reincarnation
Soul, according to plato, is
eternal, pre-existent and wholly
spiritual. After entering the body,
it tends to become impure
through association with bodily
passion; it retains, nevertheless, a
minimal knowledge of former
existence. Delivering from the
body occurs only after the soul
passes through a series of
transmigration. And was
maintained in its several
existences, it is allowed that if the
soul has had a good character in
its several existences, it is allowed
to return to a state of pure being.
If however, its character has
continually deteriorated in its
transmigration, the place of
eternal damnation. Mystical
cabalists also adopted the idea of
reincarnation as part of their
system of philosophy while the
Gnostics and the Manicheans
bottled its wine in their doctrines .
In eastern religion thought and
philosophy, belief in
transmigration seems not to have
been parts of most ancient
religious beliefs of the Ayan
conquerors of India; it appears
first in doctrinal form in the India
religious and philosophical
collection of the Upanishades.
Ever since, however, Samsara (the
Sanskrit term) has been one of
the major tenets of the three
major eastern religions:
Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
Thus, according to modern
popular Hinduism, the state in
which the soul is reborn is
predetermined by the good or
bad deeds (Karma) done in
former incarnations; the soul of
those who do evil, for instance,
are reborn in lower state (such as
animals, insects and the spirits of
trees). Ultimately, released from
Samsara and Karma is attained
after atonement for bad deeds
and recognition that the
individual soul (atma) and the
universal soul (Barhaman) are
identical. Buddhism specifically
rejects the existence of atma.
However, its conceptualization of
the cause-and-effect chain of
rebirth is functionally
indistinguishable from the Hindu
doctrine of transmigration.
Among these cultures, it is
believed that reincarnation is
accomplished by transmigration
of the soul of a dead person to
the body of an infant of the same
family. With the subsequent
animation of the child. Finally
resemblances are traced to this
process. Early Christians who
adopted Gnostic and Manichaean
doctrines were declared heretic
by the church ”.…
AFRICAN BELIEFS ON DEATH
Yoruba, as one of the most
densely populated ethnic groups
in southern part of Nigeria (in
Africa), and for being doctrinally
polytheistic and religiously
divergent, believe in the abstract
powers in accordance to their
level of spiritual understanding
which is the main mystique
surrounding their ordinary
philosophical and metaphysical
beliefs that revolve around the
myth of reincarnation- Akudaya .
Among many other ethnic groups
in Africa, Yoruba strongly believe
in life after death and in the
reword/punishment of either
Paradise or Hell respectively,
according to the earthly métier
(deeds) of the deceased. It is also
believed to them that man is
supernaturally empowered to
terminate another person’s life,
which could lead to immediate or
sudden death (without euthanasia
motive). They believe that most of
the victims of accident, fire,
deadly disease, e.t.c are subjects
of sudden death and could, as a
result, in fairness to them, have
the grace of returning back to
this material world via
transformation or transmigration.
When such an individual is
reincarnated, he would entitle to
the privilege of completing his
assigned missions on earth, like
marriage, procreation,
accumulation of wealth e.t.c. that
were suspended prior to his
(untimely) death .
The word ‘reincarnation’ here,
spiritually meant by them, is that
God would return the soul of a
deceased person to his body and
also accord him the privilege of a
choice of any desired
environment in lieu of his former
.abode
CHARACTERISTICS OF AKUDAYA
(the reincarnated) ACCORDING
TO THE AFRICANS
1 - Bipartite existence: That
means an Akudaya is of either
two parties (living and dead) with
ability to appear and disappear
within the realms of spiritual and
physical kingdoms .
2 - procreation and reproduction .
3 – Nuptial contract (marital
engagement) with mankind .
4 – Restraining from the vicinity
of their former household .
5 - Operating in anonymity .
6 – Absolute immunity to any
form of human harm .
7 – Endowment with supernatural
power to protect their household .
8 – Severe revenge of their
(untimely) terminated lives .
9 – pre - awareness of any
forthcoming dangerous attack .
10 – Total disappearance
whenever discovered or
.identified
All these, among many other
strange characteristics, are the
outcome of African philosophy
which has no any substantiative
proof from any heavenly revealed
script, but only based on human
assumption and imaginative
experience that are not only
erroneous but also a mythical
.fallacy
Philosophy could be unrealistic in
most cases because, it mostly
depends on unheavenly proofs.
And it, according to Al-imamul
Ghazaaliy, cannot guarantee the
truth because it does not produce
certainty; it is not of consequence
of spiritual illumination of divine
inspiration. Truth, as a result, can
only be attained with designation
of God (the omniscient) not by
human effort alone

to be continued inshAllah.

Tell us islams view.

Continuation: ISLAM AND DEATH

Islam, the only religion accepted
by God (Allah), and preached by
all prophets, right from Adam to
the seal of them all, Muhammed
bn Abdullah (p.b.u.h), basically
has six articles of faith with the
fifth being the belief in “the last
Day”. That is, it (Islam) preaches
a life after death .
Immediately the soul departs the
body, the material world would
be left for another eternal and
abstract existence. It would then
be returned to the body in the
grave where man would ever
remain till the day called, “last
.”Day
Allah says in the holy Quran ,
“ Blessed be He, in whose hand is
dominion, and He over all things
hath power. He who create death
and life, that He may try which of
you is best in dead.” (Q67:v1-2 (
Another scriptural verse of the
glorious Quran says :
“ Every soul shall have a taste of
death and we test you by evil and
by good by way of trial. To us
must you return” (Q61:35 (
Allah says again :
“ Every soul shall have a taste of
death. And only on the day of
judgment shall you be paid your
full recompense. Only he who is
saved far from fire and admitted
to the garden will have
succeeded: for the life of this
world is but goods and chattels of
deception.” (Q3:185 (
The aforementioned verses
demonstrate the indispensability
of death, which shall be tasted by
every soul, young or old.
Therefore, in Islam, there is
nothing called sudden death.
Every single soul has its confined
span and appointed term, and
whenever its time is up, the
attendance of demise is
unavoidable, but only with variant
form of causes which are
unrestrained and illimitable to
the omniscience of almighty
Allah. Death is only regarded
sudden and unexpected by the
unbelieving persons, who do not
always prepare for its emergence
( as believed by the Muslims) that
it could occur anytime, anywhere
and anyhow .
Allah also says :
“ With Him are the keys of the
unseen, the treasures that none
knoweth but He. He knoweth
whatever there is in the earth and
in the sea. Nit a leaf doth fall but
with His knowledge. There is not
a grain in the darkness (or
depths) of the earth, nor anything
fresh or dry (green or withered),
but is (inscribed) in a record clear
(to those who can read). (Q6:59 ”(
In one of the admonitions of the
prophet of Allah to Abdullah bn
Abbas, he counsels ,
“ O you young boy, let me teach
you some words: Abide by Allah,
He would preserve you; comply
with Him, you would meet Him
ahead; whenever you request, ask
from Him. Then, know that if a
community of people assemble to
benefit you (with anything), they
cannot except from what had
been preordained to you; and if
they come together to harm you
(in anyway), they cannot, but by
what had been predestined to
you. The Pens had been lifted and
the sheets had dried.” (Reported
by Trimidhy ( .
The prophet (p.b.u.h.) then
confirms that whoever dies, it’s
undoubtedly time for his Qiyamah

UNSUDDENESS OF ANY DEATH
In orthodox Islam, it is believed
that every soul is taken at right
and appropriate designed time.
There is no mistake in the actions
of God (Allah) neither the Angels
carry out any assignment in
contrast with the divine protocol
and commandment of Allah.
Allah, the most exalted
,commends:
“ O ye who believe! Save your
selves and your family from a fire
whose fuel is men and stones,
over which are (appointed) angels
stern (and) severe, who flinch not
(from executing) the commands
they receive from Allah, but do
(precisely) what they are
commanded” (Q66v6 (
As a result, Allah, the almighty
,declares
:Meaning
“ If Allah were to punish men for
their wrong-doing, He would not
leave, on the (earth), a sing living
creature: But He gives them
respite for a stated term: when
their term expires, they would
not be able to delay (it) for a
single hour, just as they would
not be able to anticipate it (for a
single hour)” (Q16v61 (
The above verse shows that no
death is sudden or untimely but
with a fixed time that will never
be mistakenly executed .

More to come inshAllah

Jazakallahu khairan! Brother. Very nice and beautifully done. Very very interesting! To me. In sha Allah will also be waiting for more, Jazakallah.

Nice expose... May Allah increase you in knowledge

Continuation 3:

INABILITY TO RETRIEVE LIFE :

Being an established fact that any
allowance for second chance (by
returning back to the worldly life)
is null and void, and that
whenever the appointed term
expires, one must die either
young or old, thus, Islam enjoins
Muslims to always be on their
toes, preparing for the inevitable
trip – death .
Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.)
,says
“ Exist in this world like a stranger
or a wayfarer” (Reported by
Imam Al- Bukhary (
Abdullah bn ‘Umar was also used
to admonish as follows, “When
you wake up in the morning, do
not expect (that you will be living
by) evening; and when you live up
to evening, expect morning not ”.
After death, an individual
commences a new phase of
existence, which is life in the
grave. This new phase of
existence, however, differs in
totality from the former .
Due to the nature of that
existence of the grave, some
people would plead for returning,
retrieving, transformation,
transmigration and reincarnation
in order to amend and correct
their ill-deeds or to accomplish
their suspended projects but it
will be too late to cry when the
head has been chopped off or to
shut the stable-door when the
horse is already being stolen .
Almighty Allah confirms this,
:saying
“ Until when death comes to one
of them, he says: ‘O my Lord!
Send me back(to life) – in order
that I may work righteousness in
the things I neglected. By no
means! It is but a word he says.
Before them is a partition till the
day they are raised up” (Q23 v
99-100(
In this verse, Allah (SAW) warns
that man should be hasty in doing
good deeds before a time that his
requests to be reincarnated
would be over ruled. Allah warns
,further
“ And spend something (in charity)
out of the substance which we
have bestowed on you, before
death should come to any of you
and he should say, ‘O my Lord!
Why didst thou not give me
respite for little while? I should
then have given (largely) in
charity, and I should have been
one of the doers of
good.”(Q63:10(
In an arabic poetry it sang thus :
“ Whoever escapes sword will die
by other, causes may differ but
death is one ”
This is an overwhelming proof
that no human being, righteous
or mischievous, will be favored
with another worldly sojourn
whether by reincarnation or
whatsoever type of universal
existence, such as in African
fallacy of rebirth or spiritual
communication of dead for
.revenge
What an odd idea! When
somebody gives birth to a new
baby in Africa- Yoruba culture as
a case study- immediately after
the demise of a biologically close
family member, it is believed that
it is that dead person that has
returned to the same family, and
the child, as a result, would be
named either ‘Babatunde’ (the
returning father) or ‘Iyabo’ (the
returning mother) depending on
the gender of the baby
.respectively
It is even believed that a same
child can be reborn as many as
possible. This sort of myth is
absolutely incorrect and
erroneous according to the
teachings of Islam, for the
Africans have no any cogent or
convincing proof to affirm this
rather than mere traces and week
assumptions mainly based on
philosophical fallacies and
unrealistic hypotheses .
LIFE IN THE GRAVE :
Unambiguously, Islam has
expatiated that when one
dies, according to As-
shaykh Abu Bakr Jabir Al-
Jazairy, and the deceased is
deposited in the grave while
his family are turning away,
he will be listening to the
sounds of their shoes,
when two Angels would
appear to him, sit him
down and inquire: “What
were you saying concerning
this man- Muhammad
(p.b.u.h.)? A believer would
answer: “I bore witness
that he was servant of Allah
and His messenger.” It
would be said to him: “Look
at your place in the Hell;
Allah has changed it for
another in the Al-Jannah
(paradise).” And he would
see both. The hypocrite
would be equally asked:
“What were you saying
about this man? He would
answer frightenedly ,”I
don’t know, but I did say
what people said.” They will
then shout at him, “ You
didn’t know and didn’t
obey!” As a result, he would
be beaten up with iron
.hammer
Imam Bukhaary mentioned
that prophet Muhammad
(p.b.u.h.) was quoted to
have said, “whenever any of
you dies, his place would be
shown to him day and
night. If he is a dweller of
hell, he would be among
them (people of Hell). Then
it would be said to
him:”This is your place till
Allah will resurrect you on
the day of Qiyaamah ”
Prophet Muhammad
(p.b.u.h.) also said:” Grave
is the first house of
hereafter, if a servant is
preserved (from being
punished) in it, every other
thing would be
easier” (Reported by Al-
Bukhaary(
There is in the grave, either
better or worse life regardless of
age, gender or
colour. The infidels would be bi-
periodically tormented in the
grave according to the following
,verse
“ Certain of the desert Arabs
round you are hypocrites, as well
as among the Madinah folk: They
are obstinate in hypocrisy: thou
knoweth them not: we know
them: twice shall we punish them;
and in addition shall they be sent
to a grievous
chastisement” (Q9:101 (
This two periods of time are
further analyzed :
“ In front of fire will they be
brought, morning and evening,
and (the sentence would be) on
the day when the hour comes to
pass: ’cast yee the people of
Pharaoh into the severe penalty ”
These two mentioned verses
indicate that an unrighteous soul
shall always remain with rigorous
torment in the grave (day and
night), being penurious of
reincarnation, while the righteous
ones would also remain therein in
tranquility till the day of
Qiyaamah. This is evident in the
above quoted verses, for the only
periods for human existence to
make his 24hrs, according to the
holy Qur’an, are two not three-
day and night )
with which dead would be
engaged in the grave as regard to
his occupied place therein .
For further clarifications, the
messenger of Allah, one day,
passed by two graves and he
affirmed that, ”Both of them are
in punishment; their punishment
is not a result of major or
heinous crime, but one of them
was always found of slander while
the other was accustomed to the
habit of easing himself
openly.” (Reported by Imamul
Bukhaary( .
Life in the grave is known as
‘Barzakh’. Al-Barzakh, according
to Ash-shaykh al- Imam Salih Al-
Uthaymeen, is the spiritual
partition between the material
world and the occurrence of the
last hour. Whether one is buried,
abandoned on dust and eaten by
animals, deteriorated by winds or
settled in the depth of river, all of
these are confirmed as ‘Barzakh

PLS WAIT FOR CONTINUATION, JAZAKUMULAHUKHAYRAN FOR FINDING TIME TO READ.

A very good and informative article. However, some of the issues discussed are more comprehensive than that. Qadar, Nafs, Ruh, Qalb, death (al-maut),Barzakh, Qiyamah etc are something that needs detailed understanding not just according to a particular school and set of belief. By exploring other school (madhhab), compare and contrast some of the differences, one will not only widen his knowledge horizon but also discover more.

SUDDEN DEATH/Predestination!
Imagine a sensible and conscious person that deliberately poisoned or killed himself or somebody killed by hired assassin etc. Is it his predestined time and cause of death taking into consideration the fact that Allah will punish him? If the answer is yes then where's Allah's justice (adalah)?

Man with his free-will and intellect can terminate his God-gifted precious and entrusted soul and that of others; and if he does, then he's entitle to be punished by the giver of life. That is Justice. Here Allah is all-knowing but He's not the 'cause' because if He's the cause (as for example fixed in his book of destiny and must come to pass) then the question and discussion of Justice of God (al-adl illahi) need to be explore.

In conclusion, I am of the belief that man can terminate his soul untimely. This never defeat the all-knowing ability of God.

The issue of Islamic perspective in "akudaya" need an Alim with a practical and experiencial and spiritual knowledge.

so there are beneficial and informative religious piece here and av been wasting my mbs in romance and politics sections, may allah(swt) forgive me oo

and may Allah reward u benevolently

Al-Baqir:
A very good and informative article. However, some of the issues discussed are more comprehensive than that. Qadar, Nafs, Ruh, Qalb, death (al-maut),Barzakh, Qiyamah etc are something that needs detailed understanding not just according to a particular school and set of belief. By exploring other school (madhhab), compare and contrast some of the differences, one will not only widen his knowledge horizon but also discover more.

SUDDEN DEATH/Predestination!
Imagine a sensible and conscious person that deliberately poisoned or killed himself or somebody killed by hired assassin etc. Is it his predestined time and cause of death taking into consideration the fact that Allah will punish him? If the answer is yes then where's Allah's justice (adalah)?

Man with his free-will and intellect can terminate his God-gifted precious and entrusted soul and that of others; and if he does, then he's entitle to be punished by the giver of life. That is Justice. Here Allah is all-knowing but He's not the 'cause' because if He's the cause (as for example fixed in his book of destiny and must come to pass) then the question and discussion of Justice of God (al-adl illahi) need to be explore.

In conclusion, I am of the belief that man can terminate his soul untimely. This never defeat the all-knowing ability of God.

The issue of Islamic perspective in "akudaya" need an Alim with a practical and experiencial and spiritual knowledge.

i beg to disagree wit u

barackodam:



i beg to disagree wit u

You can only disagree with a better argument.

I don't believe in reincarnation.
Jesus Christ is the ressurection and the life. The ONE sent by GOD to wash away the sins of the whole world.
I believe that on the last day, all dry bones shall raise to life, that is the ressurection.

Al-Baqir:


You can only disagree with a better argument.

Your post contradicts itself.

good4all: Continuation: ISLAM AND DEATH

Islam, the only religion accepted
by God (Allah), and preached by
all prophets, right from Adam to
the seal of them all, Muhammed
bn Abdullah (p.b.u.h), basically
has six articles of faith with the
fifth being the belief in “the last
Day”. That is, it (Islam) preaches
a life after death .
Immediately the soul departs the
body, the material world would
be left for another eternal and
abstract existence. It would then
be returned to the body in the
grave where man would ever
remain till the day called, “last
.”Day
Allah says in the holy Quran ,
“ Blessed be He, in whose hand is
dominion, and He over all things
hath power. He who create death
and life, that He may try which of
you is best in dead.” (Q67:v1-2 (
Another scriptural verse of the
glorious Quran says :
“ Every soul shall have a taste of
death and we test you by evil and
by good by way of trial. To us
must you return” (Q61:35 (
Allah says again :
“ Every soul shall have a taste of
death. And only on the day of
judgment shall you be paid your
full recompense. Only he who is
saved far from fire and admitted
to the garden will have
succeeded: for the life of this
world is but goods and chattels of
deception.” (Q3:185 (
The aforementioned verses
demonstrate the indispensability
of death, which shall be tasted by
every soul, young or old.
Therefore, in Islam, there is
nothing called sudden death.
Every single soul has its confined
span and appointed term, and
whenever its time is up, the
attendance of demise is
unavoidable, but only with variant
form of causes which are
unrestrained and illimitable to
the omniscience of almighty
Allah. Death is only regarded
sudden and unexpected by the
unbelieving persons, who do not
always prepare for its emergence
( as believed by the Muslims) that
it could occur anytime, anywhere
and anyhow .
Allah also says :
“ With Him are the keys of the
unseen, the treasures that none
knoweth but He. He knoweth
whatever there is in the earth and
in the sea. Nit a leaf doth fall but
with His knowledge. There is not
a grain in the darkness (or
depths) of the earth, nor anything
fresh or dry (green or withered),
but is (inscribed) in a record clear
(to those who can read). (Q6:59 ”(
In one of the admonitions of the
prophet of Allah to Abdullah bn
Abbas, he counsels ,
“ O you young boy, let me teach
you some words: Abide by Allah,
He would preserve you; comply
with Him, you would meet Him
ahead; whenever you request, ask
from Him. Then, know that if a
community of people assemble to
benefit you (with anything), they
cannot except from what had
been preordained to you; and if
they come together to harm you
(in anyway), they cannot, but by
what had been predestined to
you. The Pens had been lifted and
the sheets had dried.” (Reported
by Trimidhy ( .
The prophet (p.b.u.h.) then
confirms that whoever dies, it’s
undoubtedly time for his Qiyamah

UNSUDDENESS OF ANY DEATH
In orthodox Islam, it is believed
that every soul is taken at right
and appropriate designed time.
There is no mistake in the actions
of God (Allah) neither the Angels
carry out any assignment in
contrast with the divine protocol
and commandment of Allah.
Allah, the most exalted
,commends:
“ O ye who believe! Save your
selves and your family from a fire
whose fuel is men and stones,
over which are (appointed) angels
stern (and) severe, who flinch not
(from executing) the commands
they receive from Allah, but do
(precisely) what they are
commanded” (Q66v6 (
As a result, Allah, the almighty
,declares
:Meaning
“ If Allah were to punish men for
their wrong-doing, He would not
leave, on the (earth), a sing living
creature: But He gives them
respite for a stated term: when
their term expires, they would
not be able to delay (it) for a
single hour, just as they would
not be able to anticipate it (for a
single hour)” (Q16v61 (
The above verse shows that no
death is sudden or untimely but
with a fixed time that will never
be mistakenly executed .

More to come inshAllah

these are the type of reminders that we want to be seeing on our forum. Pls continue dis gud work

Al-Baqir:

In conclusion, I am of the belief that man can terminate his soul untimely. This never defeat the all-knowing ability of God.

And you call yourself a muslim with the above dogmatic conclusion. This is Taqleed at work. Go and study tawheed with understanding. An uneccesary statement can take you out of islam

Macelliot: I don't believe in reincarnation.
Jesus Christ is the ressurection and the life. The ONE sent by GOD to wash away the sins of the whole world.
I believe that on the last day, all dry bones shall raise to life, that is the ressurection.

OGA, NOBODY CAN DIE FOR YOUR SINS. EZIEKEL 18 VS 20

Sheykul Islam:

And you call yourself a muslim with the above dogmatic conclusion. This is Taqleed at work. Go and study tawheed with understanding. An uneccesary statement can take you out of islam

Is there taqlid on tawheed? Which tawheed do u recommend? That of wahabi/salafi? Lol.
A very simple question: why would God punish he who killed himself if such fate has been predestined?

maclatunji:

Your post contradicts itself.

How and where, chief?

Al-Baqir:


Is there taqlid on tawheed? Which tawheed do u recommend? That of wahabi/salafi? Lol.
A very simple question: why would God punish he who killed himself if such fate has been predestined?

i cant believe i just read this. There is no doubt in Allah's statement " He who Allah leads astray no can guide".

Sheykul Islam:

i cant believe i just read this. There is no doubt in Allah's statement " He who Allah leads astray no can guide".

Ododo loro Oluwa.^

"I have never argued with an ignorant fool and won; nor have I argued with a rational person and lost"- Imam Ali (as).

Al-Baqir:


Ododo loro Oluwa.^

"I have never argued with an ignorant fool and won; nor have I argued with a rational person and lost"- Imam Ali (as).

why should i waste my precious time with ahl bid'ah like you. If you blindly follow thoughts which contradicts the fundamental basics of islam. How can I imagine myself talking with someone who cant differentiate between tafsir and ta'weel,

Al-Baqir:


A very simple question: why would God punish he who killed himself if such fate has been predestined?

Permit me to ask a question: Why would Allah punish a person who associates partners with Allah if such fate has been predestined?

Salam Alaykum warahmatullah......It is vividly established that every self shall taste death...and coming back after death is not allowed..(U can check different tafseers of the holy qur'an)...however pple claim to see som1 that had once lived...These kind of stuffs are unanimously belived by Alims to be the work of Jinns(by the will of Allah).That's why the prophet forbade us from bathing naked/openly...there are jins that can take form of other pple causing disbelief and fitnah that would stop you from worshiping ur creator.One of the most famous hadith of the prophet was the prayer b4 entering the toilet and this prayer mainly seeks giudance against the unseen(shayatin)...they take the shape of whomever they like if allah wills.There's more on this but I hope every muslim should make researchs and really find out about this beautiful deen

harmeenart:
Permit me to ask a question: Why would Allah punish a person who associates partners with Allah if such fate has been predestined?

Such a fate is not predestined, dear brother.
Any act that has to do with reward of Hell and Paradise is not predestined rather it is based on human free-will. Allah will only punish us on any act based on free-will because we have choice on it. But a predestined cases will be left unquestion on the day of judgment because we have no choice on it.

This is another area of differences between us (Shi'a) and Sunni. Sunni believe otherwise. They have certain hadith that says paradise and hell have been predestined for respective man before they are even born. We believe such hadith are lies and fabricated to cover certain individual's evil deeds in the eyes of generations to come.

In fact, part of Tawhid in shi'a Islam is al-Adl illahi (justice of God).

Allah is Just and will NEVER do an act of injustice to any of His creature. Whoever ascribe such nonesense to Him has lied. Allah is powerful over all thing but He only use His power with wisdom and superior reason.

dareabiola98: Salam Alaykum warahmatullah......It is vividly established that every self shall taste death...and coming back after death is not allowed..(U can check different tafseers of the holy qur'an)...however pple claim to see som1 that had once lived...

True. Every soul shall taste death.
What is DEATH? Do you think death is annihilation of man? Does the dead have influence on the living? What is the relationship between soul and body after their separation? What is Bar'zakh? Where's Bar'zakh? All these are broad discussion. There's a connection between this physical/matter world and the spiritual world.

dareabiola98: however pple claim to see som1 that had once lived..

Believe it or not. Its not a claim. Its real. You only say what you know and see; and do not disregard others practical experiences. The explanation, many Ulama only follow conjecture.
My elder brother was at Hajj this year and saw an incident right before his eyes at Arafah. A woman saw a relative that have died many years back. She approached the person and confront him. After that, the woman fell sick with blood oozing out of her mouth and nose. She only got okay upon reaching back home (Nigeria).

dareabiola98: These kind of stuffs are unanimously belived by Alims to be the work of Jinns(by the will of Allah).That's why the prophet forbade us from bathing naked/openly...there are jins that can take form of other pple

Who told you it is "unanimously believe" by Alims? There are many Alims that do not even believe in that theory.
First, there's no single Qur'anic or hadith prove for that theory. That's why I said earlier that many Ulama only follow conjecture.
Second, Jinn in contrast to men they possess a volatile and "unfixed" outer form and so can take on many shapes. This means that they are essentially creatures of the psychic rather than the physical world and that they can appear to man in different forms and shapes.
Question: can they appear as "physically stable man"? I don't know and I want to believe its not possible for them.
Third, here comes a power given to man - "Quwati wahmiyah -Power of imagination". This is a real study on its own.

Conclusion: This topic of Akudayah is a broad, controversial and debatable topic. Whatever it is does not really matter. What matter to a muslim is "Believe and righteous deeds"; those are the two ingredients of Jannah.

Al-Baqir:


Such a fate is not predestined, dear sister.
Any act that has to do with reward of Hell and Paradise is not predestined rather it is based on human free-will. Allah will only punish us on any act based on free-will because we have choice on it. But a pre destined cases will be left unquestion on the day of judgment because we have no choice on it.

Then what really is predestination? Allah created us to worship him, therefore all our actions can either lead us to hell or paradise.

This is another area of differences between us (Shi'a) and Sunni. Sunni believe otherwise. They have certain hadith that says paradise and hell have been predestined for respective man before they are even born. We believe such hadith are lies and fabricated to cover certain individual's evil deeds in the eyes of generations to come.

In fact, part of Tawhid in shi'a Islam is al-Adl illahi (justice of God).

Okay....I get it now.One out of the many Shi'a creeds.A real big difference indeed. I don't even know how to start explaining with hadiths you already see as lies. May Allah save us from misguidiance. I rest my case.

Al-Baqir:

True. Every soul shall taste death.
What is DEATH? Do you think death is annihilation of man? Does the dead have influence on the living? What is the relationship between soul and body after their separation? What is Bar'zakh? Where's Bar'zakh? All these are broad discussion. There's a connection between this physical/matter world and the spiritual world.



Believe it or not. Its not a claim. Its real. You only say what you know and see; and do not disregard others practical experiences. The explanation, many Ulama only follow conjecture.
My elder brother was at Hajj this year and saw an incident right before his eyes at Arafah. A woman saw a relative that have died many years back. She approached the person and confront him. After that, the woman fell sick with blood oozing out of her mouth and nose. She only got okay upon reaching back home (Nigeria).



Who told you it is "unanimously believe" by Alims? There are many Alims that do not even believe in that theory.
First, there's no single Qur'anic or hadith prove for that theory. That's why I said earlier that many Ulama only follow conjecture.
Second, Jinn in contrast to men they possess a volatile and "unfixed" outer form and so can take on many shapes. This means that they are essentially creatures of the psychic rather than the physical world and that they can appear to man in different forms and shapes.
Question: can they appear as "physically stable man"? I don't know and I want to believe its not possible for them.
Third, here comes a power given to man - "Quwati wahmiyah -Power of imagination". This is a real study on its own.

Conclusion: This topic of Akudayah is a broad, controversial and debatable topic. Whatever it is does not really matter. What matter to a muslim is "Believe and righteous deeds"; those are the two ingredients of Jannah.

who invited you to bring your own shia view on akudaya. We are talking about the views of scholars in Islam on the concept of akudaya according to what is in the Quran and the sunnah of prophet not according to the shia misinterpretation of Quran. Muslims follow Quran as interpreted by salaf through sahih headiths like bukhari, muslim and the likes. shia dont believe in these books so nothing consign you when muslims are analysing islam according to these books

jazakumuAllahu for your responce, may Allah continue to be pleased with u.

opeyemi@2013:

who invited you to bring your own shia view on akudaya. We are talking about the views of scholars in Islam on the concept of akudaya according to what is in the Quran and the sunnah of prophet not according to the shia misinterpretation of Quran. Muslims follow Quran as interpreted by salaf through sahih headiths like bukhari, muslim and the likes. shia dont believe in these books so nothing consign you when muslims are analysing islam according to these books

Hatred block and blind heart from reaching truth. That was what condemned shay'tan against Adam. Shay'tan knew the truth but the hatred in his heart made him denied it.

A muslim share and seek knowledge not fanaticism and being adamant to reason.

"Call to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good exhortation, and reason with them in the best way. Lo! Your Lord best knows those who astray from His path, and He knows best those who are rightly guided"~ Qur'an 16:125

CONTINUATION:

INABILITY TO RETRIEVE LIFE :
Being an established fact that any
allowance for second chance (by
returning back to the worldly life)
is null and void, and that
whenever the appointed term
expires, one must die either
young or old, thus, Islam enjoins
Muslims to always be on their
toes, preparing for the inevitable
trip – death .
Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.)
“ Exist in this world like a stranger
or a wayfarer” (Reported by
Imam Al- Bukhary (
Abdullah bn ‘Umar was also used
to admonish as follows, “When
you wake up in the morning, do
not expect (that you will be living
by) evening; and when you live up
to evening, expect morning not ”.
After death, an individual
commences a new phase of
existence, which is life in the
grave. This new phase of
existence, however, differs in
totality from the former .
Due to the nature of that
existence of the grave, some
people would plead for returning,
retrieving, transformation,
transmigration and reincarnation
in order to amend and correct
their ill-deeds or to accomplish
their suspended projects but it
will be too late to cry when the
head has been chopped off or to
shut the stable-door when the
horse is already being stolen .
Almighty Allah confirms this,
:saying
“ Until when death comes to one
of them, he says: ‘O my Lord!
Send me back(to life) – in order
that I may work righteousness in
the things I neglected. By no
means! It is but a word he says.
Before them is a partition till the
day they are raised up” (Q23 v
99-100(
In this verse, Allah (SAW) warns
that man should be hasty in doing
good deeds before a time that his
requests to be reincarnated
would be over ruled. Allah warns
,further
“ And spend something (in charity)
out of the substance which we
have bestowed on you, before
death should come to any of you
and he should say, ‘O my Lord!
Why didst thou not give me
respite for little while? I should
then have given (largely) in
charity, and I should have been
one of the doers of
good.”(Q63:10(
In an arabic poetry it sang thus ,
“ Whoever escapes sword will die
by other, causes may differ but
death is one ”
This is an overwhelming proof
that no human being, righteous
or mischievous, will be favored
with another worldly sojourn
whether by reincarnation or
whatsoever type of universal
existence, such as in African
fallacy of rebirth or spiritual
communication of dead for
.revenge
What an odd idea! When
somebody gives birth to a new
baby in Africa- Yoruba culture as
a case study- immediately after
the demise of a biologically close
family member, it is believed that
it is that dead person that has
returned to the same family, and
the child, as a result, would be
named either ‘Babatunde’ (the
returning father) or ‘Iyabo’ (the
returning mother) depending on
the gender of the baby
.respectively
It is even believed that a same
child can be reborn as many as
possible. This sort of myth is
absolutely incorrect and
erroneous according to the
teachings of Islam, for the
Africans have no any cogent or
convincing proof to affirm this
rather than mere traces and week
assumptions mainly based on
philosophical fallacies and
unrealistic hypotheses .

LIFE IN THE GRAVE :
Unambiguously, Islam has
expatiated that when one
dies, according to As-
shaykh Abu Bakr Jabir Al-
Jazairy, and the deceased is
deposited in the grave while
his family are turning away,
he will be listening to the
sounds of their shoes,
when two Angels would
appear to him, sit him
down and inquire: “What
were you saying concerning
this man- Muhammad
(p.b.u.h.)? A believer would
answer: “I bore witness
that he was servant of Allah
and His messenger.” It
would be said to him: “Look
at your place in the Hell;
Allah has changed it for
another in the Al-Jannah
(paradise).” And he would
see both. The hypocrite
would be equally asked:
“What were you saying
about this man? He would
answer frightenedly ,”I
don’t know, but I did say
what people said.” They will
then shout at him, “ You
didn’t know and didn’t
obey!” As a result, he would
be beaten up with iron
.hammer
Imam Bukhaary mentioned
that prophet Muhammad
(p.b.u.h.) was quoted to
have said, “whenever any of
you dies, his place would be
shown to him day and
night. If he is a dweller of
hell, he would be among
them (people of Hell). Then
it would be said to
him:”This is your place till
Allah will resurrect you on
the day of Qiyaamah ”
Prophet Muhammad
(p.b.u.h.) also said:” Grave
is the first house of
hereafter, if a servant is
preserved (from being
punished) in it, every other
thing would be
easier” (Reported by Al-
Bukhaary(
There is in the grave, either
better or worse life regardless of
age, gender or
colour. The infidels would be bi-
periodically tormented in the
grave according to the following
,verse
“ Certain of the desert Arabs
round you are hypocrites, as well
as among the Madinah folk: They
are obstinate in hypocrisy: thou
knoweth them not: we know
m: twice shall we punish them;
and in addition shall they be sent
to a grievous
chastisement” (Q9:101 (
This two periods of time are
further
“ In front of fire will they be
brought, morning and evening,
and (the sentence would be) on
the day when the hour comes to
pass: ’cast yee the people of
Pharaoh into the severe penalty ”
These two mentioned verses
indicate that an unrighteous soul
shall always remain with rigorous
torment in the grave (day and
night), being penurious of
reincarnation, while the righteous
ones would also remain therein in
tranquility till the day of
Qiyaamah. This is evident in the
above quoted verses, for the only
periods for human existence to
make his 24hrs, according to the
holy Qur’an, are two not three-
day and night )
) ,
with which dead would be
engaged in the grave as regard to
his occupied place therein .
For further clarifications, the
messenger of Allah, one day,
passed by two graves and he
affirmed that, ”Both of them are
in punishment; their punishment
is not a result of major or
heinous crime, but one of them
was always found of slander while
the other was accustomed to the
habit of easing himself
openly.” (Reported by Imamul
Bukhaary( .
Life in the grave is known as
‘Barzakh’. Al-Barzakh, according
to Ash-shaykh al- Imam Salih Al-
Uthaymeen, is the spiritual
partition between the material
world and the occurrence of the
last hour. Whether one is buried,
abandoned on dust and eaten by
animals, deteriorated by winds or
settled in the depth of river, all of
these are confirmed as ‘Barzakh ’

our next topic is
PLACES OF SOULS IN ‘BARZAKH

Jazakumullah

akins56: so there are beneficial and informative religious piece here and av been wasting my mbs in romance and politics sections, may allah(swt) forgive me oo

lol. Ameeen!

Macelliot: I don't believe in reincarnation.
Jesus Christ is the ressurection and the life. The ONE sent by GOD to wash away the sins of the whole world.

I believe that on the last day, all dry bones shall raise to life, that is the ressurection.

@ bolded, did he said that himself ??