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The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 7:42pm On Jan 04, 2014
I got in my hand the book called The Meroitic Language and Writing System By Rilly and Voogt
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In the Conclusion (p.174) you can read:
Both the lexical and morphological correspondences have left no doubt that the Meroitic language shares an origin with Nilo-Saharan Group of North Eastern Sudanic.

It adds on p177:

These lexical elements direct the Urheimat toward the Sahel region rather than the Nile. The geographic distribution of the NES languages follows the same idea. Out of the three branches of North Eastern Sudanic, Taman and Nyima are the last to split off and are found in the Darfur-Kordofan region. If the principle of least movement is followed, this would also be the area of origin for the Nubians. It is likely that here proto-NES first appeared.


It must also be noted that while modern Nubian languages, like Nobiin, are closely related to the Meroitic language, they are not a child language to Meroitic but a sister language. Nubian languages doesn't descend from Meroitic, they both share a common ancestor language.

The movements of the Proto-Nubians, the third group of the Eastern branch, are more difficult to reconstruct. As argued elsewhere (Rilly 2008), it is not plausible that they ever reached the Nile prior to the end of the Meroitic Kingdom in the third century AD. On the other hand, the chronology of phonetics changes in the Nubian languages indicates that the split in the Nubian groups did not occur much prior to this date. The proximity of proto-Nubian and Meroitic , despite two millennia of separation, and Meroitic's conservative character in relation to proto-NES are such that they presuppose a relatively isolated position during a long period. The phonology of proto-Nubian, for instance, was not affected by influences that changed Meroitic or Nyimang phonology. It is likely that the Proto-Nubians were nomads wandering between still hospitable zones until the first millennium BC. Some portion of the middle part of Wadi Howar or the valley of Gebel Tageru may have served that purpose.


It must be said that this also goes in line with the neolithic remains (I wanted to post a University of Khartoum pdf about it here, but can't) in Sudan which shows A-M13 being the main haplogroup among early settlers with other haplogroups joining later on along the years up to recent time. A-M13 is prevalent in Sudan among modern day Dinka (62%), Shilluk (53%), Borgu (35%).
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by ababda: 6:23am On Jan 06, 2014
I like your enthusiasm, and i check with people who studied this and they have not heard of it, and i tried to check in the internet, because this is a very very big deal in Egyptology/nubiology and so far no reputable articles has been produce or any mainstream news outlet reported this. This would be a good example because these people would know, and scholars everywhere that study languages or studying the history of ancient cultures would be scrambling everywhere, and start decipher the hidden text.

https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/research_projects/all_current_projects/berber-abidiya_project/the_site/the_site_the_temple.aspx
https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/research_projects/all_current_projects/sudan/berber-abidiya_project.aspx
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/35-ancient-pyramids-discovered-in-sudan-necropolis/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/pyramids-discovered-sudan-graves-artifacts_n_2637525.html





because many scholars throughout the world are trying to decipher the meroitic texts, so far they are able to identify names of gods and rulers. Until there is a peer review, and it gets a stamp of approval throughout the academic community everywhere in the world including where the languages is spoken, your news is just fluff.


The Meroitic language (/mɛroʊˈɪtɪk/) was spoken in Meroë and the Sudan during the Meroitic period (attested from 300 BCE) and went extinct about 400 CE. It was written in two forms of the Meroitic alphabet: Meroitic Cursive, which was written with a stylus and was used for general record-keeping; and Meroitic Hieroglyphic, which was carved in stone or used for royal or religious documents. It is poorly understood owing to the scarcity of bilingual texts.


A hieroglyphic Meroitic inscription adorns this royal votive plaque of king Tanyidamani. It is from the temple of Apedemak in Meroë. Circa 100 BCE, Walters Art Museum, Baltimore.
The classification of Meroitic is uncertain due to the scarcity of data and difficulty in interpreting it. Since the alphabet was deciphered in 1909, it has been proposed that Meroitic is related to Nubian and similar languages of the Nilo-Saharan phylum. Claude Rilly (French: [ʁiji]) is the most recent proponent of the Nilo-Saharan idea: he proposes that it is Eastern Sudanic, the Nilo-Saharan family that includes Nubian (Rilly 2004, 2007, 2012). Rowan (2006, 2011), on the other hand, notes that the Meroitic sound inventory and phonotactics (the only aspects of the language which are secure) are similar to those of the Afroasiatic languages, and dissimilar from Nilo-Saharan languages. For example, very rarely does one find the sequence CVC, where the consonants (C) are both labials or both velars. This is similar to consonant restrictions found throughout the Afro-Asiatic language family, suggesting that Meroitic might have been an Afroasiatic language like Egyptian. The issue is unresolved and most classifications list Meroitic either as questionably Nilo-Saharan or as unclassified (as Joseph Greenberg did).[1]
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 4:16pm On Jan 09, 2014
Well, frankly, you can ignore it if you want but there's no point in trying to hide the sun with your hand. There's hasn't been much published on Meroitic since 2012 period but Rilly, a French scholar, is a well known and respected specialist in the field, if not *the* specialist on Meroitic.
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 10:09pm On Jan 09, 2014
I won't force you to accept anything you don't want to know or believe in, but books published by the Cambridge University Press are peer-reviewed.
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by Africa4Africans: 8:33am On Jan 10, 2014
AmunRaOlodumare: I won't force you to accept anything you don't want to know or believe in, but books published by the Cambridge University Press are peer-reviewed.

Don't argue with anti-phenotypically Black people. They will just cause you to lose your mind. Only focus on teaching those who want to be taught. Our enemies will never honor us, we must honor ourselves. Our enemies will never teach us, we must teach ourselves. It is a fool who gives their children to their enemy to be taught. Just because someone has dark skin or slightly kinky hair does not mean they are devoted to the complete liberation of Africa: our Eurasian enemies have come from every border, the north, the east, the south and the west to encroach on our heritage and ancestry, created mixed race offspring that work within the phenotypically black community to deceive, confuse and harm us. Identify your enemies and ignore them. They will join you at the table when the meal is served. Abibfahodie! (Complete African Liberation!).
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by ababda: 12:42am On Jan 11, 2014
AmunRaOlodumare: I won't force you to accept anything you don't want to know or believe in, but books published by the Cambridge University Press are peer-reviewed.

My suggestion to you, go to the annual conference, and really see what going on, because these are the people that do the actually ground work. BTW, half the monuments in that region is also written in Egyptians (Jebal Barkal, nuri pyramids, El kurru tomb and temples among many others is deciphered. At the same time it will be good to have the meroitic texts deciphered as well, it can answer many questions.
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by gatiano(m): 8:45pm On Dec 30, 2014
Black people originated everything that can be seen, touched, feel, heard, tasted, thought, and smelt. african is a wrong word, black is wrong to classify us, I found out that the last word for it remembered is Muur or Moor, and it should not be called Muurish or Moorish, rather Muurian or Moorian, like the amcient place called Lemuria/ Lemuuria. i added my own, the christians would say Mary, Maria, the arabs would say mayham or so, the african would say Mooria,Muuriamo etc. Muur means Black, likewise negro does not mean black, negro is from a latin word, and spanish was the first derived from latin, negro there mean a black object, and a black person means moreno (man) morena (woman). negro means dead from the greek word called necro. in english c, k can be substitute for g and vice versa.
spanish is a blackman's language during the muurian rule of that area for 700 years, calculate where was europe for that 700 years period?
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 9:50pm On Dec 30, 2014
^^Moors is a word used to designate Berbers in northwestern Africa which are muslim people composed mainly of ancient European and Arab ancestry.

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Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 31, 2014
AmunRaOlodumare:
^^Moors is a word used to designate Berbers in northwestern Africa which are muslim people composed mainly of ancient European and Arab ancestry.


It's not fair that people want to ignore the fact that there were most probably sub-Saharan black Africans among the Moors. Black people have, after all, been part of the North African landscape from time immemorial, in many cases not as slaves, but as indigenes and aborigines.

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Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by TerryCarr(m): 11:42pm On Dec 31, 2014
even if it is a black language the people speaking it could be mixed. but who knows
Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by gatiano(m): 8:32pm On Jan 04, 2015
the people that hate black more than all the races of this planet is black people themselves, they have been manipulated by other races to hate self and believe that they worth nothing, the non-blacks have corrupted all the history that it took the coming of GOD himself. The moors were all black. the arab that you see as moors are a painting and a story.
Radoillo:



It's not fair that people want to ignore the fact that there were most probably sub-Saharan black Africans among the Moors. Black people have, after all, been part of the North African landscape from time immemorial, in many cases not as slaves, but as indigenes and aborigines.

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