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Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 9:58am On Aug 18, 2014 |
There is no such thing as Muslim Names, or Islamic Names. Allah was promoted to supreme being status by Muhammad Ibn Abdullah. Allah was initially just another deity belonging to the Quraysh clan of Muhammad's father, whose name was Abdullah. Muhammad's name existed as Muhammad centuries before Islam. Bilal, Kabir, Anas and all other names associated with Islam predated the Islamic faith, so they are Arab names. The name Muhammad is no more Islamic than bearing Dele or Niyi. If you adopt these middel-eastern names, they don't move you closer to some upstart Allah, they just further demonstrate your subservience to Arab culture and history. There is no such thing as Islamic garb or dress. The clothing associated with Islam are nothing more than the clothing of the Bedouin Culture. They wore such garments to allow them better navigate the desert environment where they lived. These were nomadic peoples who traveled a harsh land that required them covering their heads, wearing long flowing fabrics that allowed some cooling air to flow, protecting them from the hot sun at the same time. But now, we got black muslims dressing like desert Bedouins in such clemency of the thick forested clime of urbane Yorubaland! How ridiculous! We now have Black women covering their heads and faces like it's some homage to an upstart supreme being when it is actually nothing more than mimicking of women who lived on top of shifting sands, who covered their heads and faces (leaving a slit for sight) to block out the intense desert sun, blowing sands and dirt. 7 Likes |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by SweetyZinta(f): 10:21am On Aug 18, 2014 |
Bla Bla Bla! |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 12:21pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
SweetyZinta: Bla Bla Bla!Of course intelligent words are always bla bla bla to the stupid 4 Likes |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by SweetyZinta(f): 4:06pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
macof: what makes you think dat was an intelligent write up? How come it didn't make FP? ALLAH said when d endtime comes alot of Unknowledgeable people will spread #Falsehood just d way u're doing. May Allah guide u aright. |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:12pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
SweetyZinta: if it is falsehood, kindly correct us dear. We are here to learn. 2 Likes |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by Ghost01(m): 6:57pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
I'm with you on this @OP. If you haven't already, read Anwar Sheikh's Islam: The Arab Imperialism. http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/Islam-Arab-Imperialism.htm |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by Fulaman198(m): 7:21pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
macof: Whilst I agree with what you are saying, I do not completely. Arabs and Persians have far different names and languages. The Persians are actually closely related to Greeks, Hindus, etc. Darius for example is a Persian name, it is not an Arab name by any means. In countries with a heavy Muslim population, you can have 'Arabised' names that are based on Arab names but not completely Arab. For example: Shehu (which is West African and mainly used in Nigeria, Niger and Cameroon) is the same as Chiekh Hamidu (West African), Hamidi (West African and Persian) are the same as Hamid Mamadou, Momodu, Mahamadu, Mahamdou are all variations of Mohammed/Mohammad Nasiru, Nassourou, etc. are all Nasir The list goes on and on. What I am saying is that yes, the names are Arab in origin (not Persian as it is an Indo-European language by classification). Asiatic is not a proper classification bro. When you say Asiatic you can imply all sorts of things. Arabic like Hausa and like 20+ other languages in Nigeria is an Afro-Asiatic language. 1 Like |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by Howmanage: 8:00pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
macof:really? Never heard this before... |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 11:04pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
Ghost01: I'm with you on this @OP. If you haven't already, read Anwar Sheikh's Islam: The Arab Imperialism. http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/Islam-Arab-Imperialism.htm Looks like a Great piece..I would read it when am free. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 11:07pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
SweetyZinta: Madam this isn't about Allah but Arab culture passing off as "Allah's commandment" If you worship zeus, odin, Obatala or Allah I don't care for the purpose of this thread. this is culture section, so am sticking to culture |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 11:10pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
Howmanage: really? Never heard this before... Heard it for the first time from an ex-Muslim..well he was a Muslim then Now he is pagan/atheist |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by Howmanage: 12:04pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
And is this common knowledge amongst muslims? For example, some Catholic practices originated in Paganism and the catholic church freely admits it though they say they now honour Jesus with the practices...eg christmas. Are muslim teachers aware of this deity which is now called Allah? |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 4:24pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
Howmanage: And is this common knowledge amongst muslims? For example, some Catholic practices originated in Paganism and the catholic church freely admits it though they say they now honour Jesus with the practices...eg christmas. Are muslim teachers aware of this deity which is now called Allah? am nt sure as I've not discussed this with any other Muslim except for some on Nairaland and Facebook which they just twist the whole thing without giving answers |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by Nobody: 7:05pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
Truetalk! |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by lepasharon(f): 11:07pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
SweetyZinta: Firstly what does Allah even mean ? |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by macof(m): 1:45pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Fulaman198:Yh you right but I assume you get the main point of the Op |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by PAPAAFRICA: 7:46am On Aug 21, 2014 |
Howmanage: really? Never heard this before...from wikipedia "The name was previously used by pagan Meccans as a reference to a creator deity, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia" |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by Howmanage: 1:50pm On Aug 21, 2014 |
I am not sure staunch Nigerian muslims know this.... Would it be seen as islamic blasphemy to inform a muslim about this? |
Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by ghostofsparta(m): 10:55am On Aug 26, 2014 |
SweetyZinta:O! My dear SweetyZinta, how so you are this brainwashed? "Allah said" indeed, who really saw him speak? By the way, are you an Arab? or a Jew? 1 Like |
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