SalC:
Lolzzz
Sorry sis I can't help but laugh at the bold. Are you really this soft-hearted?

This is Nairaland! And if you must be here, you have to develop a tough skin or you will find yourself weeping over the to lies heaped on you here even by someone who don't even know what you look like or whom you are.

Shalom

Ifeann:
Why is it unsafe to discuss about the religion of "peace".. why all the threats about fatwas..And insults from Muslims. this is terrible. . Freedom of expression on islam is dead. But its only for a time..The truth will always prevail.

usermane:


Hi! Where did you post it, on this section or Islam section? I hope Islam section agents have not started pulling the strings on censorship in this section again?

Ifeann:


I posted it here in the general religion section. .. i have NEVER posted any thing in the Islam for Muslim section. ..

The thread was a simple and blunt article i wrote on the issues with islam and the vast differences between the teachings of Jesus and Mohammed which should compel any human with a conscience to leave Islam. Some people asked for it to be posted to the fp while Muslims insulted. In the end fear got the better of the mods. ..

I will dilute the article and repost soon. ..
Hope you are having a nice weekend. .

usermane:


Thanks, am doing good. Should you re-post it, i have your back. On no account should a secular forum like this be censored by religious supremacists. Whoever is sick of your criticisms should not view your thread.

Ifeann:



This is exactly why u are my favorite Muslim and one day hopefully a brother in Christ. . .

I will repost again after it is watered down. .i don't want to offend anyone. .

i was discussing with a muslim on nairaland, i think empiree or abuaman i can't recall and i posted something u said about the hadiths and asked why they attack you for your stance . .the Muslim says u are not a real Muslim and added some other choice insults. ..i don't know if you have seen the thread. ..
why are Muslims so anti critical thinking, freedom of expression and objective reasoning? ? Why do they attack any opposition to the status quo.. even if it is clearly ridiculous. .don't they know that Islam will be less of a laughing stock without the hadiths.

SalC:
Even I, have difficulty believing Usermane is a muslim, he seems completely different from any muslim I have met on or offline.


He questions islam so much that even his fellow muslims here don't seem to like him one bit.
Imagine even now, his profile picture is a bible verse while his siggy is Islamic.
If truly he is a muslim, he is one of a kind and I salute his courage.

Ifeann:



This is exactly why u are my favorite Muslim and one day hopefully a brother in Christ. . .

I will repost again after it is watered down. .i don't want to offend anyone. .

i was discussing with a muslim on nairaland, i think empiree or abuaman i can't recall and i posted something u said about the hadiths and asked why they attack you for your stance . .the Muslim says u are not a real Muslim and added some other choice insults. ..i don't know if you have seen the thread.

why are Muslims so anti critical thinking, freedom of expression and objective reasoning? ? Why do they attack any opposition to the status quo.. even if it is clearly ridiculous. .don't they know that Islam will be less of a laughing stock without the hadiths.

usermane:


Hmm.... I cannot expect anything less from such individuals who lack a sense of right and wrong. I expose the self-righteousness, deceit and ignorance within them, most times they had no logical response and cowardly resort to insults, banning me and deleting my threads. They basically escaped from me.




It is called ego. They have been brought up with a militant, irrational and supremacist understanding of their religion and therefore objectivity, rationality and freedom of expression have no place in their mindset. That is why they find it wrong for Christians to kill apostates but justify Muslims killing apostates. There is a battle for Islam among between such Muslims and Reform minded Muslims like me. Here is a brilliant documentary that captures it;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZECSUg8iY

estwhile:
But seriously ifeann, I'm curious as to why u left islam

Ifeann:


mrolai is so interested in my sex life. ..but u know why oremussanctus. ..i am sure u know do?. . The Koran and hadiths are filled with sex escapades of Mohammed. .do u know Pakistan a no nonsense muslim country rank first in PORN searches according to google in 2014. It's appalling. .

Please take a look in the pic i uploaded below and see mrolai 's last few posts. .. he seems to be in heat and loves the topic of sexuality..

Mee234:

I think he(?) is more interested in derailing the thread so that the aim of opening this thread will not be achieved. You should know Muslims by now. They curse, lie bring up irrelevant issues when the dark side of their religion is expose

SalC:
Even I, have difficulty believing Usermane is a muslim, he seems completely different from any muslim I have met on or offline.


He questions islam so much that even his fellow muslims here don't seem to like him one bit.
Imagine even now, his profile picture is a bible verse while his siggy is Islamic.
If truly he is a muslim, he is one of a kind and I salute his courage.

PastorAIO:
I've got an idea for Seun. Seun, if indeed you are being threatened by Islamists regarding the things posted on this website, perhaps you could try to document it. Keep a record of any letters and emails sent, or if possible audio and video recordings of meetings with these people when they are likely to threaten you.

Who knows, maybe in a couple of years time it might make a good documentary or expose´. Evidence.



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I beg your pardon, I've just discovered what the alt button on my computer keyboard can do.

usermane:


Hmm.... I cannot expect anything less from such individuals who lack a sense of right and wrong. I expose the self-righteousness, deceit and ignorance within them, most times they had no logical response and cowardly resort to insults, banning me and deleting my threads. They basically escaped from me.




It is called ego. They have been brought up with a militant, irrational and supremacist understanding of their religion and therefore objectivity, rationality and freedom of expression have no place in their mindset. That is why they find it wrong for Christians to kill apostates but justify Muslims killing apostates. There is a battle for Islam among between such Muslims and Reform minded Muslims like me. Here is a brilliant documentary that captures it;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZECSUg8iY

Ifeann:
I just watched the documentary.
Its very educative, I have always known that not all Muslims are like tartar, ayinba, abuamam etc. This is why I never insult Muslims.
The thing is that Muslims like u are so like christains in behaviour, u are also a very small voice in Islam.
I just discovered a guy called BabaGnoni, he seems to be a level headed quranist.
I was pained to see what decent anti hadith Muslims Go thru.
It was also incredible to hear that ignorant muslim refer to that nice muslim doctor as an extremist.

Empiree watch this doc;
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZECSUg8iY

Pay attention in the 46th minute mark and hear a morderate muslim complain about an extremist Muslims imam using al Taqiyya, he refered to it as double discourse.

BabaGnoni:

Level headed, I humbly accept, quranist, whatever that means, I doubt
Ah, I am not sure I have the liver to watch this, as it looks gruesome just looking at the snapshot
Will watch it later or at some stage, after mustering the will power

Ifeann:
Its an okay documentary. . No gore scenes. .

BabaGnoni:

Hmm, thank you...
I've just finished watching it
The below at the beginning (i.e. 1:06 - 1:10) reverberated in my ears throughout watching the video
1:06 if it was not illegal to kill or
1:10 if they would guarantee that there would be no punishment, some of us will be dead by now

PastorAIO:
I've got an idea for Seun. Seun, if indeed you are being threatened by Islamists regarding the things posted on this website, perhaps you could try to document it. Keep a record of any letters and emails sent, or if possible audio and video recordings of meetings with these people when they are likely to threaten you.

Who knows, maybe in a couple of years time it might make a good documentary or expose´. Evidence.



πø^¨¥†®´∑œåß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬……æ«¡€#¢∞§•ªº–Ω≈ç√∫~µ≤≥≥

I beg your pardon, I've just discovered what the alt button on my computer keyboard can do.

usermane:
Thank you both(Ifeann & BabaGnoni), am actually glad you enjoyed the documentary.

An important fact left out of it is the protection and support the Islamists enjoy from the western government/politicians like Obama, western leftists and mainstream media, all thanks to multiculturalism and political correctness. This sabotage the effort of the reform minded Muslims willing to integrate and defend western values like freedom, tolerance and secularism.

We can understand this clearer by considering this forum. The Admin has not only given an entire section to Muslims but empowered Islamofascists, supremacist and militant Muslims to moderate and dominate the section, such that moderate, secular Muslims like me can't air their views, let alone non-Muslims. Only Muslims are permitted to post there and even then, only mainstream or orthodox teachings are tolerated in Islam section.

Still, the Admin continue to feed Islamofascists in this forum by authorizing them to censor topics even in Religion or Politics section. Ifeann, that is why your topic was deleted.

Not all Muslims are Islamists but an alarming fraction are. Any Muslim with a supremacist, absolutist and militant position on Islam is an Islamist even if he campaigns against Boko Haram. Islamists are wolves in sheep clothing, parasitizes on Islam and have a very twisted, demented and devious vision for the world. The earlier people like the Admin of this forum realizes that, the better.

Ifeann:
Yeah. . Its crazy. . And he is really meant it..
When i called u a quranist, i apparently i mistook u for a muslim,
i read one of your posts where u were defending Islam and u mentioned ur disdain for the hadith. ..

So let me get this clear. . Are u a muslim

BabaGnoni:

^^^
No problemo my brother...
usermane, I turned away and shielded my face from watching the stoning part though
Me, that I used to watch hardcore bloody gory and horror movies before with no problems.
I must have gone soft

This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey!
He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him.
Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.
- Genesis 16:12 NLT"

Ishmael's descendants occupied the region from Havilah to Shur,
which is east of Egypt in the direction of Asshur.
There they lived in open hostility toward all their relatives.
- Genesis 25:18 NLT

It is not just today, yansh don dey for back. The butt as always been at the rear, not just recently

Ifeann:
Why is it unsafe to discuss about the religion of "peace".. why all the threats about fatwas..
And insults from Muslims. this is terrible. . Freedom of expression on islam is dead.
But its only for a time..The truth will always prevail.

Ifeann: Pay attention in the 46th minute mark and hear a morderate muslim complain about an extremist Muslims imam using al Taqiyya, he refered to it as double discourse.

BabaGnoni:

Hmm, thank you...
I've just finished watching it
The below at the beginning (i.e. 1:06 - 1:10) reverberated in my ears throughout watching the video
1:06 if it was not illegal to kill or
1:10 if they would guarantee that there would be no punishment, some of us will be dead by now