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Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by malvisguy212: 10:09pm On May 08, 2015
eshbeewanna:


Oga Teacher you may as well give us answer to these inconsistencies in your bible since its the only scripture that is infallible.

The Errors of Bible Accounts

In the New Testament, there are contradictions between the genealogies of Jesus given in the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke.

Both genealogies begin with Jesus’ father, who is identified as Joseph (which is curious, given that Mary was supposedly impregnated by the Holy Ghost). But Matthew says Joseph’s father was Jacob, while Luke claims he was Heli. Matthew lists 26 generations between Jesus and King David, whereas Luke records 41. Matthew runs Jesus’ line of descent through David’s son Solomon, while Luke has it going through David’s son Nathan.

The story of Jesus' birth is also contradictory. Matthew 2:13-15 depicts Joseph and Mary as fleeing to Egypt with the baby Jesus immediately after the wise men from the east had brought gifts.

But Luke 2:22-40 claims that after the birth of Jesus, his parents remained in Bethlehem for the time of Mary’s purification (which was 40 days, under the Mosaic law). Afterwards, they brought Jesus to Jerusalem "to present him to the Lord," and then returned to their home in Nazareth. Luke mentions no journey into Egypt or visit by wise men from the east.

Concerning the death of Judas, the disloyal disciple, Matthew 27:5 states he took the money he had received for betraying Jesus, threw it down in the temple, and "went and hanged himself." To the contrary, Acts 1:18 claims Judas used the money to purchase a field and "falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

In describing Jesus being led to his execution, John 19:17 recounts that he carried his own cross. But Mark 15:21-23 disagrees by saying a man called Simon carried the cross.

As for the crucifixion, Matthew 27:44 tells us Jesus was taunted by both criminals who were being crucified with him. But Luke 23:39-43 relates that only one of the criminals taunted Jesus, the other criminal rebuked the one who was doing the taunting, and Jesus told the criminal who was defending him, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."

Regarding the last words of Jesus while on the cross, Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 quote Jesus as crying with a loud voice, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Luke 23:46 gives his final words as, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." John 19:30 alleges the last words were, "It is finished."

There are even contradictions in the accounts of the resurrection – the supposed event that is the very foundation of the Christian religion. Mark 16:2 states that on the day of the resurrection, certain women arrived at the tomb at the rising of the sun. But John 20:1 informs us they arrived when it was yet dark. Luke 24:2 describes the tomb as open when the women arrived, whereas Matthew 28:1-2 indicates it was closed. Mark 16:5 declares that the women saw a young man at the tomb, Luke 24:4 says they saw two men, Matthew 28:2 reports they saw an angel, and John 20:11-12 claims they saw two angels.

Also in the resurrection stories, there are contradictions as to the identity of the women who came to the tomb,[7] whether the men or angels the women saw were inside or outside the tomb,[8] whether the men or angels were standing or sitting,[9] and whether Mary Magdalene recognized the risen Jesus when he first appeared to her.[10]

As a final example of a New Testament contradiction, the conflicting accounts of Paul’s conversion can be cited. Acts 9:7 states that when Jesus called Paul to preach the gospel, the men who were with Paul heard a voice but saw no man. According to Acts 22:9, however, the men saw a light but didn't hear the voice speaking to Paul.

The foregoing examples are just a few of the hundreds of contradictions contained in the Old and New Testaments. Each contradiction is an instance where at least one of the verses is wrong. Thus, hundreds of contradictions mean there are at least hundreds of incorrect statements in the Bible.
read here, your fellow muslim brother ask this same question, and the answer was given https://www.nairaland.com/2263706/mattew-vs-luke-contradictory-gospel
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by POPdecorator: 11:16pm On May 08, 2015
dolphinheart:
@ POPsecorator

Now let's analyze ur post line by line and bring out the omissions and falsehood coated with sugar and inserted in it .




When Francisco Mitra became
the president of France in 1981,


Lie 1. No Francisco mitra became president of France in 1981.
Pls correct that lie . I believe that the lie on the name of the french president in 1981 was changed so that people , expecially gullible muslims wunt be able to investigate easily.

Lie 2. There is no empherical prove that France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh for the purpose of running laboratory and archaeological examinations on the mummy of the most notorious dictator ever lived on earth.
But there is prove that the Egyptians requested France to help preserve the mummy cus it was deteorating at a fast rate. Due to infection caused by tomb raiders who had earlier discovered where the body was. The assertion is buttressed by these statement in ur post : "Scientists were trying to restore the mummy while Professor Maurice was mainly concerned with how did this mummy die!". Can you see the contradictions caused by false claims in ur attempt to link the mummy and the koran.

Omission 1: you guys deliberately omitted the name of the pharaoh that buccaine examined . I believe this is deliberate so that people would not easily know which pharaoh was studied . With the development in science and study of acheaological evidence, the life, age, health condition and death of all the pharaohs mummies can be ascertained. Pls supply the name of the Pharaoh that bucaille tested .

Lie 3 . When you want to lie, pls make sure there are no loopholes ok .

U stated that : "And there, someone whispered to him that Muslims claim to know something about the drowning of this mummy.
Yet the Professor firmly denied
such thing saying that it’s
impossible to discover this
without the development of
science and without using his
high-tech and complicated
laboratories and computers.
To his surprise, he was told that
Muslims believe in a book
called “Quran” and this Quran
narrates the story of Pharaoh’s
drowning and ensures the
safety of his body after his
death as to be a Sign to
mankind. The Professor
couldn’t believe his own ears
and started to wonder: "

Bucaille was born on 19 July 1920, In 1973, Bucaille was
appointed family physician to
king Faisal of Saudi Arabia.
Another of his patients at the
time included members of the
family of then President of
Egypt, Anwar Sadat. That is, at the age of 53 he was close the the rulers of two great Islamic countries and was even there personal physician . How can you them say that at age 61 or later (1981), he was suprised and did not know about the koran until an unknown person(omission 2) whispered into his hear. Haba !

Let's go on . In this website

http:m.islamicbulletin.org/?url=http%3A 2F2Fwww.islamicbulletin.org%2Fnewsletters%2Fissue_6%2Fembraced.aspx#2854

It is stated that bucaille started studying the quran at age 50 (1970). So he acting suprised on hearing about the koran years later is a blatant lie , and to cover the lie , the name of the whisperer was not mentioned so that people wunt investigate .

There are more lies and omissions in ur post but ill wait and see if you attempt to deny the one I posted .

And for other guys who believe this bucaille story . Pls add the name of the pharaoh he examined and the other omissions .

Lastly , salt is found in high quantity in the body of all the pharaohs . Its an essential ingridient used in their mummification .
u get dis post frm "answeringislam" site i also know but na lie answer to ur number 1 question

François Mitterrand
(1916–1996) Socialist Party [ 27 ]2121 May 198117 May 1995
1981, 1988
Candidate of a united left-wing ticket in the 1965 election, he founded the Socialist Partyin 1971. Having narrowly lost the 1974 election, he was finally elected in the 1981 election. He instigated several reforms (abolition of the death penalty, a fifth week of paid leave for employees). After the right-wing victory in the 1986 legislative elections, he named Jacques ChiracPrime Minister, thus beginning the first cohabitation. Re-elected in the 1988 electionagainst Chirac, he was again forced to cohabit with Édouard Balladurfollowing the 1993 legislative elections. He retired in 1995 after the conclusion of his second term. He was the first President elected twice by universal suffrage, he was the first left-wing President of the Fifth Republic, and his Presidential tenure was the longest of the Fifth Republic
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by POPdecorator: 11:24pm On May 08, 2015
dolphinheart:
@ POPsecorator

Now let's analyze ur post line by line and bring out the omissions and falsehood coated with sugar and inserted in it .




When Francisco Mitra became
the president of France in 1981,


Lie 1. No Francisco mitra became president of France in 1981.
Pls correct that lie . I believe that the lie on the name of the french president in 1981 was changed so that people , expecially gullible muslims wunt be able to investigate easily.

Lie 2. There is no empherical prove that France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh for the purpose of running laboratory and archaeological examinations on the mummy of the most notorious dictator ever lived on earth.
But there is prove that the Egyptians requested France to help preserve the mummy cus it was deteorating at a fast rate. Due to infection caused by tomb raiders who had earlier discovered where the body was. The assertion is buttressed by these statement in ur post : "Scientists were trying to restore the mummy while Professor Maurice was mainly concerned with how did this mummy die!". Can you see the contradictions caused by false claims in ur attempt to link the mummy and the koran.

Omission 1: you guys deliberately omitted the name of the pharaoh that buccaine examined . I believe this is deliberate so that people would not easily know which pharaoh was studied . With the development in science and study of acheaological evidence, the life, age, health condition and death of all the pharaohs mummies can be ascertained. Pls supply the name of the Pharaoh that bucaille tested .

Lie 3 . When you want to lie, pls make sure there are no loopholes ok .

U stated that : "And there, someone whispered to him that Muslims claim to know something about the drowning of this mummy.
Yet the Professor firmly denied
such thing saying that it’s
impossible to discover this
without the development of
science and without using his
high-tech and complicated
laboratories and computers.
To his surprise, he was told that
Muslims believe in a book
called “Quran” and this Quran
narrates the story of Pharaoh’s
drowning and ensures the
safety of his body after his
death as to be a Sign to
mankind. The Professor
couldn’t believe his own ears
and started to wonder: "

Bucaille was born on 19 July 1920, In 1973, Bucaille was
appointed family physician to
king Faisal of Saudi Arabia.
Another of his patients at the
time included members of the
family of then President of
Egypt, Anwar Sadat. That is, at the age of 53 he was close the the rulers of two great Islamic countries and was even there personal physician . How can you them say that at age 61 or later (1981), he was suprised and did not know about the koran until an unknown person(omission 2) whispered into his hear. Haba !

Let's go on . In this website

http:m.islamicbulletin.org/?url=http%3A 2F2Fwww.islamicbulletin.org%2Fnewsletters%2Fissue_6%2Fembraced.aspx#2854

It is stated that bucaille started studying the quran at age 50 (1970). So he acting suprised on hearing about the koran years later is a blatant lie , and to cover the lie , the name of the whisperer was not mentioned so that people wunt investigate .

There are more lies and omissions in ur post but ill wait and see if you attempt to deny the one I posted .

And for other guys who believe this bucaille story . Pls add the name of the pharaoh he examined and the other omissions .

Lastly , salt is found in high quantity in the body of all the pharaohs . Its an essential ingridient used in their mummification .
u get dis post frm "answeringislam" site i also know but na lie answer to ur number 2 na lie
that is a fabrication go to google and type did "France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh" u will get the answer inshala
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by Sweetnecta: 9:17pm On May 09, 2015
truthman2012(m): 3:54pm On May 05
Moses in the Quran

The following are the explanations of the quran given by an islamic cleric about Moses. He used the Bible account to narrate the Quran even though he didn't insert biblical quotes there, I did.. If you removed the bible account, the quranic quotes become meaningless.

Infancy

In line with the Judaic view, we find out from the Quran that when Prophet Moses (pbuh) was born in Egypt, his life was in great danger as the Pharoah was persecuting the Israelites.

Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections depressing a group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (Quran 28:4)

Where is “he was born in Egypt” in that quranic quote?

What caused Pharaoh to be elated and slew their sons?

Whose sons as no Israelites was mentioned in the quranic quote?

Therefore, Moses’s mother was greatly worried about her son’s fate; then, the Quran specifies that God inspired her to take an unlikely action:

So We sent this inspiration to the mother of Moses: “Suckle (thy child) but when thou hast fears about him cast him, into the river, but fear not nor grieve: for We shall restore him to thee, and We shall make him one of Our messengers.” (Quran 28:7)

Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river. While the Torah maintains that the Pharoah’s daughter adopted Moses, the Quran differs. In fact, the Pharoah’s wife insisted that they adopt him (Exodus 2:2-4).

The wife of Pharaoh said: “(Here is) a joy of the eye for me and for thee: slay him not. It may be that he will be of use to us, or we may adopt him as a son.” And they perceived not (what they were doing)! (Quran 28:9)

Where is it stated in that quote that Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river in that quranic quote?

When Moses (pbuh) was hungry, he refused to nurse from any of the foster mothers provided for him. At this point, Moses’s sister posing as a bystander suggested she could bring someone who may be successful in feeding him; unbeknownst to his rescuers, she brought his own mother, a point mentioned in Exodus of the Torah as well. Of course, Moses readily nursed from her and the two were thus rejoined (Exodus 2:7-cool.

Thus did We restore him to his mother that her eye might be comforted, that she might not grieve and that she might know that the promise of Allah is true: but most of them do not understand. (Quran 28:13)

How was he restored, does that verse give the above narration?
I RAN INTO THIS THREAD WHILE TRYING TO DISABLE MY ACCOUNT WHICH I SHOULD HAVE DONE LONG TIME AGO WHEN I DECIDED TO LEAVE. IF SEUN OR ANYONE CAN ASSIST, I WILL GIVE MY EMAIL BECAUSE IT IS SET UP ONLY FOR NAIRALAND MATTERS AND NOTHING MORE.

MUSLIMS SHOULD EXAMINE INFO PROVIDED BY NON MUSLIMS IN RELIGIOUS CONVERSATION AS THIS ONE HERE BEFORE ACCEPTING IT OUTRIGHT ON ITS MERIT. MR WONDERFUL HERE WHO STARTED THE THREAD INTENTIONALLY OMITTED VERSES 28; 11 AND 12 THAT ANSWERED HIS QUESTIONS. IF HE IGNORANTLY DID SO, HE NEEDS TO BE CERTAIN THE FUTURE BEFORE GOING FORWARD.

THE STORY OF MOSES HERE IN 28 IS PART OF OVERALL STORY OF MOSES [MUSA [AS] IN THE QURAN. ALLAH PROVIDES ONLY WHAT MATTERS ABOUT MOSES. IT IS SPIRITUALLY IRRELEVANT TO PROVIDE WHAT DOES NOT BENEFIT US LIKE THE STREET ADDRESS OF HIS BIRTH, ETC. WHAT WE KNOW ARE THAT HE WAS BORN IN THE COMMUNITY OF HIS PEOPLE, IN A YEAR BOYS BORN MUST BE KILLED WHEREAS OLDER BROTHER AARON WAS BORN THE YEAR SONS WERE SPARED. I CAN'T FIND ANY REASON THIS THREAD WAS STARTED EXCEPT TO BE DISHONEST WHILE PROSELYTIZING CHRISTIANITY.

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Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by truthman2012(m): 10:13pm On May 09, 2015
Sweetnecta:
I RAN INTO THIS THREAD WHILE TRYING TO DISABLE MY ACCOUNT WHICH I SHOULD HAVE DONE LONG TIME AGO WHEN I DECIDED TO LEAVE. IF SEUN OR ANYONE CAN ASSIST, I WILL GIVE MY EMAIL BECAUSE IT IS SET UP ONLY FOR NAIRALAND MATTERS AND NOTHING MORE.

MUSLIMS SHOULD EXAMINE INFO PROVIDED BY NON MUSLIMS IN RELIGIOUS CONVERSATION AS THIS ONE HERE BEFORE ACCEPTING IT OUTRIGHT ON ITS MERIT. MR WONDERFUL HERE WHO STARTED THE THREAD INTENTIONALLY OMITTED VERSES 28; 11 AND 12 THAT ANSWERED HIS QUESTIONS. IF HE IGNORANTLY DID SO, HE NEEDS TO BE CERTAIN THE FUTURE BEFORE GOING FORWARD.

THE STORY OF MOSES HERE IN 28 IS PART OF OVERALL STORY OF MOSES [MUSA [AS] IN THE QURAN. ALLAH PROVIDES ONLY WHAT MATTERS ABOUT MOSES. IT IS SPIRITUALLY IRRELEVANT TO PROVIDE WHAT DOES NOT BENEFIT US LIKE THE STREET ADDRESS OF HIS BIRTH, ETC. WHAT WE KNOW ARE THAT HE WAS BORN IN THE COMMUNITY OF HIS PEOPLE, IN A YEAR BOYS BORN MUST BE KILLED WHEREAS OLDER BROTHER AARON WAS BORN THE YEAR SONS WERE SPARED. I CAN'T FIND ANY REASON THIS THREAD WAS STARTED EXCEPT TO BE DISHONEST WHILE PROSELYTIZING CHRISTIANITY.

Trash!

There is no way you can understand any major thing on which your islamic faith is anchored without the Bible.

QURAN SAYS ABRAHAM AND ISHMAEL CAME TO MECCA:

Coming from where? Did they drop from the sky?

What led them to leave where they were coming from?

JESUS WAS GIVEN A BOOK (Quran 19:30):

What does the Book contain?

Where is the Book today?

ABRAHAM BUILT KAABA AS A RESORT AND SANCTUARY FOR MANKIND:

Who did visit that Kaaba meant for all mankind after Abraham? No biblical, historical or even islamic source to back up that God's prophets visited the house. Would Mose, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus etc not go there as the house of worship for ALL MANKIND?

Quran is silent on a number of issues that would have exposed the true identity of allahh without stress and it is deliberately so by him. The list of quran silence on very important subjects is long.

But before you finally take your leave as the truth you are discovering does not go down well with you, can you throw more light on the following prophets from quranic viewpoints:

Who was Moses and where was he coming from? What happened to him that he was appointed a prophet and leading which people to where?

How was Moses and his people in where and how did get there?

Who was Ishmael and where was he coming from before he got to Mecca and why did he leave his base? How did he get a wife to be able to multiply in Mecca? Who were his children that took over from him?

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Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by dolphinheart(m): 11:49pm On May 09, 2015
POPdecorator:
u get dis post frm "answeringislam" site i also know but na lie answer to ur number 1 question

François Mitterrand
(1916–1996) Socialist Party [ 27 ]2121 May 198117 May 1995
1981, 1988
Candidate of a united left-wing ticket in the 1965 election, he founded the Socialist Partyin 1971. Having narrowly lost the 1974 election, he was finally elected in the 1981 election. He instigated several reforms (abolition of the death penalty, a fifth week of paid leave for employees). After the right-wing victory in the 1986 legislative elections, he named Jacques ChiracPrime Minister, thus beginning the first cohabitation. Re-elected in the 1988 electionagainst Chirac, he was again forced to cohabit with Édouard Balladurfollowing the 1993 legislative elections. He retired in 1995 after the conclusion of his second term. He was the first President elected twice by universal suffrage, he was the first left-wing President of the Fifth Republic, and his Presidential tenure was the longest of the Fifth Republic

If you want to accuse someone of doing something, you add/bring/supply prove ok.
U say I got my post from a Website , pls post the content of the website that is similar to mine.
U said "but na lie", pls show the lie, dnt just make blank statement .

I believe you urself now know you lied in ur initial post(lie 1) on the name of the french president in 1981. The name of the french president in this post(Francois mitterand) is different from the name u gave in ur initial post(Francisco mitra). Why did you change the names if not to confuse people from finding out the truth.

Pls dnt lie on names that can be verified ok
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by dolphinheart(m): 12:38am On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
u get dis post frm "answeringislam" site i also know but na lie answer to ur number 2 na lie
that is a fabrication go to google and type did "France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh" u will get the answer inshala

Let me tell you something about google, what you type in the search engine is what you get, if you type a lie in the search engine , you get several websites where such lie is being propagated .

If you want to show you are not lying in lie2 , then pls supply us with

1. the name of the pharaoh bucaille studied to come to a conclusion that that mummy is the pharaoh that mohamed was refering to and the year he did the study.

2. The year France requested for the mummy of the pharaoh.

3 . The name of the pharaoh France requested to host.

Ill give you Much respect if you can supply data on those 3 things .

And pls dnt forget to reply me on lie 3 ok

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Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by POPdecorator: 9:36am On May 10, 2015
Sweetnecta:
I RAN INTO THIS THREAD WHILE TRYING TO DISABLE MY ACCOUNT WHICH I SHOULD HAVE DONE LONG TIME AGO WHEN I DECIDED TO LEAVE. IF SEUN OR ANYONE CAN ASSIST, I WILL GIVE MY EMAIL BECAUSE IT IS SET UP ONLY FOR NAIRALAND MATTERS AND NOTHING MORE.

MUSLIMS SHOULD EXAMINE INFO PROVIDED BY NON MUSLIMS IN RELIGIOUS CONVERSATION AS THIS ONE HERE BEFORE ACCEPTING IT OUTRIGHT ON ITS MERIT. MR WONDERFUL HERE WHO STARTED THE THREAD INTENTIONALLY OMITTED VERSES 28; 11 AND 12 THAT ANSWERED HIS QUESTIONS. IF HE IGNORANTLY DID SO, HE NEEDS TO BE CERTAIN THE FUTURE BEFORE GOING FORWARD.

THE STORY OF MOSES HERE IN 28 IS PART OF OVERALL STORY OF MOSES [MUSA [AS] IN THE QURAN. ALLAH PROVIDES ONLY WHAT MATTERS ABOUT MOSES. IT IS SPIRITUALLY IRRELEVANT TO PROVIDE WHAT DOES NOT BENEFIT US LIKE THE STREET ADDRESS OF HIS BIRTH, ETC. WHAT WE KNOW ARE THAT HE WAS BORN IN THE COMMUNITY OF HIS PEOPLE, IN A YEAR BOYS BORN MUST BE KILLED WHEREAS OLDER BROTHER AARON WAS BORN THE YEAR SONS WERE SPARED. I CAN'T FIND ANY REASON THIS THREAD WAS STARTED EXCEPT TO BE DISHONEST WHILE PROSELYTIZING CHRISTIANITY.
tanx for dis good work but the bold is not clear to me
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by POPdecorator: 9:42am On May 10, 2015
truthman2012:


Trash!

There is no way you can understand any major thing on which your islamic faith is anchored without the Bible.

QURAN SAYS ABRAHAM AND ISHMAEL CAME TO MECCA:

Coming from where? Did they drop from the sky?

What led them to leave where they were coming from?

JESUS WAS GIVEN A BOOK (Quran 19:30):

What does the Book contain?

Where is the Book today?

ABRAHAM BUILT KAABA AS A RESORT AND SANCTUARY FOR MANKIND:

Who did visit that Kaaba meant for all mankind after Abraham? No biblical, historical or even islamic source to back up that God's prophets visited the house. Would Mose, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus etc not go there as the house of worship for ALL MANKIND?

Quran is silent on a number of issues that would have exposed the true identity of allahh without stress and it is deliberately so by him. The list of quran silence on very important subjects is long.

But before you finally take your leave as the truth you are discovering does not go down well with you, can you throw more light on the following prophets from quranic viewpoints:

Who was Moses and where was he coming from? What happened to him that he was appointed a prophet and leading which people to where?

How was Moses and his people in where and how did get there?

Who was Ishmael and where was he coming from before he got to Mecca and why did he leave his base? How did he get a wife to be able to multiply in Mecca? Who were his children that took over from him?

i will give the detail of it
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by POPdecorator: 9:50am On May 10, 2015
dolphinheart:


If you want to accuse someone of doing something, you add/bring/supply prove ok.
U say I got my post from a Website , pls post the content of the website that is similar to mine.
U said "but na lie", pls show the lie, dnt just make blank statement .

I believe you urself now know you lied in ur initial post(lie 1) on the name of the french president in 1981. The name of the french president in this post(Francois mitterand) is different from the name u gave in ur initial post(Francisco mitra). Why did you change the names if not to confuse people from finding out the truth.

Pls dnt lie on names that can be verified ok
that mean ur brain need upgrading

ur brain don't tell u that franciso mitra
is the abriviation of fransico mitterand?
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by dolphinheart(m): 12:48pm On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
that mean ur brain need upgrading

ur brain don't tell u that franciso mitra
is the abriviation of fransico mitterand?

Haaaaaaaaa!! You can lie ooo!!!

First let's correct ur deliberate attempt to lie here again , the original name of the french president is Francois mitterand and not Fransico mitterand, I wunt allow you cover up ur initial lie with another confusing lie here.


Abbreviation: is a shortened form of a word or phrase.

Abeg , which one is longer , the original name "Francois" or the lie lie abbreviation "Francisco".
So in ur own world , an abbreviated word is longer that the original .

I've told you that when you want to lie, make sure its watertight so that embarassment like this do not befall you. See how you are desperately trying to patch up ur lie basket with lienon (nylon).

Now let me expose you further .
Francisco : is a Spanish name
Francois : is a french name .

Mitra: is of indo-Iranian origin

Mitterand : never abbreviated , a french name.

How can a french name be an abbreviation of a Spanish name . Haba! Bro pls accept you lied in lie1.

Still waiting for info on lie2 and explanation on the big lie 3 .

Note: dnt think derogatory words can help turn ur lies to truth .
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by POPdecorator: 2:58pm On May 10, 2015
dolphinheart:


Haaaaaaaaa!! You can lie ooo!!!

First let's correct ur deliberate attempt to lie here again , the original name of the french president is Francois mitterand and not Fransico mitterand, I wunt allow you cover up ur initial lie with another confusing lie here.


Abbreviation: is a shortened form of a word or phrase.

Abeg , which one is longer , the original name "Francois" or the lie lie abbreviation "Francisco".
So in ur own world , an abbreviated word is longer that the original .

I've told you that when you want to lie, make sure its watertight so that embarassment like this do not befall you. See how you are desperately trying to patch up ur lie basket with lienon (nylon).

Now let me expose you further .
Francisco : is a Spanish name
Francois : is a french name .

Mitra: is of indo-Iranian origin

Mitterand : never abbreviated , a french name.

How can a french name be an abbreviation of a Spanish name . Haba! Bro pls accept you lied in lie1.

Still waiting for info on lie2 and explanation on the big lie 3 .

Note: dnt think derogatory words can help turn ur lies to truth .
u just want to derail the topic

that mistake occur during typing

so don't derail the topic


and be giving me ur question 1 after the other
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by 9niceguy(m): 4:42pm On May 10, 2015
gatiano:
You need the Quran along with your Bible. Bible says God created heaven and earth and all in it within 6 days.
Quran says 6 periods.
Which should i believe? I know for a fact that it is impossible to create a tree with 6 days. But 6 periods would explain it better.

Was the trees planted or created?
We are talking about God here not man.
Thanks!
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by dolphinheart(m): 6:19pm On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
u just want to derail the topic

that mistake occur during typing

so don't derail the topic


and be giving me ur question 1 after the other

Wow, wow!! Wooooow!

So you made a typo error right!
Bet those 1001 Islamic websites that used francisco mitra as the name of the french president also made mistakes during typing abi!!! .
You have now changed the lie from abbreviation to mistake in typing.
let's leave lie1 for now and move up to lie2 and 3.
If you are man enough can you supply the data I asked on lie2 and can you comment on lie 3?
Re: Without The Bible Quran Is Meaningless by gatiano(m): 6:50pm On May 10, 2015
It is immature for me to just conclude simply that trees are created or planted, yet they were created, but it was a seed which was created that was planted. There is end to this cycle, Because seeds turns into trees or shrubs, which produces fruits, pods etc, in these fruits are also the seeds again.
All trees, plants or better stated seeds and animals are made from an original totem which are with the original creators who are actually me and you and all the Black people on earth. totalling 1 billion and 8 million people evenly divided between male and female. There were 1B8M creators.
In the real sense, there is no one for you to worship, but sense we are in a period of forgetfulness which has ended already, We will always have Our Elders to look up to, Amongst them is who we call Allah/God. We choose them, Their time passes and another gets in the position. It is boring to live forever in material body. Thus God is a Humanbeing like everybody else.
9niceguy:

Was the trees planted or created?
We are talking about God here not man.
Thanks!

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