Pennah:
who amongst dis has faith pass

NOAH:- Build an ark upon no sign of rain of rain he stil carried on wit d work which took him 120 years to complete the ark wit no visibles signs of rain

ABRAHAM:- Embark on a journey wit no direction and also blieve on havin a child at his old age

johnydon22:


Noah's ark took 120 years to finish and the timbers lingered for that long... Now i will be damned.. This is juicy

Somehow timber lasted 120years without rotting or breaking into pieces, most of those woods and the boat must have been fossil before the 120years. .lol..

johnydon22:


Noah's ark took 120 years to finish and the timbers lingered for that long... Now i will be damned.. This is juicy

Somehow timber lasted 120years without rotting or breaking into pieces, most of those woods and the boat must have been fossil before the 120years. .lol..

Pennah:
all d stufz fo d buildin wer directed nd provided by God himself nd also there was no rain

johnydon22:


Noah's ark took 120 years to finish and the timbers lingered for that long... Now i will be damned.. This is juicy

Somehow timber lasted 120years without rotting or breaking into pieces, most of those woods and the boat must have been fossil before the 120years. .lol..

Pennah:
who amongst dis has faith pass
NOAH:- Build an ark upon no sign of rain of rain he stil carried on wit d work which took him 120 years to complete the ark wit no visibles signs of rain

ABRAHAM:- Embark on a journey wit no direction and also blieve on havin a child at his old age

NumberOne2:

What is this? Don't know that wood can last hundreds of years depending on humidity and insect (termites)? Fossils takes thousands of years to form so 120 year old wood CANNOT fossilize. There are many houses built with wood in ancient times around the World (Nigeria inclusive) that are still standing.

Pennah:
all d stufz fo d buildin wer directed nd provided by God himself nd also there was no rain

Pennah:
all d stufz fo d buildin wer directed nd provided by God himself nd also there was no rain

NumberOne2:

What is this? Don't know that wood can last hundreds of years depending on humidity and insect (termites)? Fossils takes thousands of years to form so 120 year old wood CANNOT fossilize. There are many houses built with wood in ancient times around the World (Nigeria inclusive

johnydon22:


And this slipped my mind totally... WTF

No rain for 120years?? Dude no offense but you need psychiatric check up.. you did not imagine how catastrophic it will be if rain ceases for 2years talk more of 120years. . . by the time 120years elapses there will be nobody or plants for the flood to kill anymore.

theAtheist101:


Did god also build the ark? Was there also mist and fog in the area, or god stopped that also? So Noah's family and other beneficiaries must have been useless during the construction of the impossible boat?

Why do you all work so hard to uphold a lie, by telling more lies?

Pennah:
u sound unborn

theAtheist101:


And these houses can withstand a flood, right? The atmospheric pressure these wooden houses withstand must certainly be the same with the pressure at the bottom of a boat, right? So Noah must have pressure-treated the woods he used to build the ark, like that used to build houses in the 19th century (ad)?

It is true that wood couldn't have fossilised in that time period -- he was just being sarcastic! But, I am certain the untreated Gopher wood , the Bible claims Noah used cannot use 2 years without full servicing, talk less of 120 years. In actual fact, the only people at that time, who could manufacture a boat of a far smaller magnitude were the Egyptians, not the Jews! So wake up from the delusions of the Bible and face reality!

johnydon22:
and the boy couldn't figure out i was being sarcastic when i said fossil... #sighs.

Am i to start arguing over obvious mythology... Boy i recommend Gilgamesh flood story then start again.

Pennah:
i can lie on any kind of stuff but com to tink of it wil a sensible human bein upload lies on d bibles

Mind u d bible say we dare nt ad nor subtract frm wot is there in the bible

NumberOne2:


What is this? Do you know why wood is treated? It is treated mainly for insects and humidity like I stated. Modern treatments also improve water resistance and more recently pressure resistance. Wood on its own has great structural integrity.
Are you telling me that early American's who arrived from Europe pressure treated the wood for construction? Stop making a fuss of common knowledge. Go do your research.

PS: The flood was for 40 days. I'm sure wood can survive that.

As for johnydon22, I know he was kidding. The kid has a good sense of humour.

theAtheist101:


You have only stated why woods that are used in the interior of houses are treated, not woods that are used to manufacture boats and ships. You should have also included pressure, wind and water pressures!

When did Columbus discover America? Was is it 2500 BC? The man took a voyage in 15th century (AD) that took two months and 8 days. Do know that they were stopping at islands intermediating Europe (Portugal) and "the New World" (America) to service the ship? Even with the breaks during the journey, do you know there ship still wrecked? Finally, do you know that the best ship built in 2500 BC were that of the Egyptians and we saw the evidence for their ships. The Noah's story is a myth concocted by liars, so I would advise you to wise up and see the truth.

Yes, hard wood might survive 40 days of flood, but can't survive (120 years * 365.25 days/year) + (40+ days [it was purported that they actually spent more days on the boat]) = 43870+ days (!) of atmospheric pressure and water pressure. Even a present day ship would not last this long!

theAtheist101:


You have only stated why woods that are used in the interior of houses are treated, not woods that are used to manufacture boats and ships. You should have also included pressure, wind and water pressures!

When did Columbus discover America? Was is it 2500 BC? The man took a voyage in 15th century (AD) that took two months and 8 days. Do know that they were stopping at islands intermediating Europe (Portugal) and "the New World" (America) to service the ship? Even with the breaks during the journey, do you know there ship still wrecked? Finally, do you know that the best ship built in 2500 BC were that of the Egyptians and we saw the evidence for their ships. The Noah's story is a myth concocted by liars, so I would advise you to wise up and see the truth.

Yes, hard wood might survive 40 days of flood, but can't survive (120 years * 365.25 days/year) + (40+ days [it was purported that they actually spent more days on the boat]) = 43870+ days (!) of atmospheric pressure and water pressure. Even a present day ship would not last this long!

theAtheist101:


The rule is only binding on you! Yet, you have added and subtracted to it. In fact, you are close to writing your own version. Which is actually good for you, since you would immortalise yourself.

theAtheist101:


You have only stated why woods that are used in the interior of houses are treated, not woods that are used to manufacture boats and ships. You should have also included pressure, wind and water pressures!

When did Columbus discover America? Was is it 2500 BC? The man took a voyage in 15th century (AD) that took two months and 8 days. Do know that they were stopping at islands intermediating Europe (Portugal) and "the New World" (America) to service the ship? Even with the breaks during the journey, do you know there ship still wrecked? Finally, do you know that the best ship built in 2500 BC were that of the Egyptians and we saw the evidence for their ships. The Noah's story is a myth concocted by liars, so I would advise you to wise up and see the truth.

Yes, hard wood might survive 40 days of flood, but can't survive (120 years * 365.25 days/year) + (40+ days [it was purported that they actually spent more days on the boat]) = 43870+ days (!) of atmospheric pressure and water pressure. Even a present day ship would not last this long!

Pennah:
gosh dis is d result of ilitracy

Pennah:
b4 i proceed i wil lyk to ask u a question if u can ansa den u wil satisfy urself
do u bliv dat wen Moses stroke a rock water rushd out ?? if yes den y dout Noah's story?? ( i can see u r doutin Gods power)
But if ur ansa is no NA U SABI

NumberOne2:


Water pressure? The boat floats on water, where is the pressure? Dont you know objects are lighter in water. A 1000kg boat will not exert the same 1000kg at its base in water as it will on land.

Your calculation is wrong. The boat was not on water for 120 years! Where did you get that from? You Dont even know the story yet you have concluded. (Arguing stuff you dont know. My mistake)

Leave the bible alone. If you Dont believe it thats fine but dont tell me wood in construction cannot survive beyond 120 years. There is enough evidence of wood surviving beyond that even here in Nigeria. Go do your research.

theAtheist101:


Funny! Now I see where the problem really lies. You don't understand the workings of nature. The question use should ask yourself is why do ocean's have tides? Is it god that is moving the water or some daemons? What of ocean currents? These phenomena would generate pressure in any water body that is 9,000 metres high above the normal sea level (according to you Bible's tale). Next time you watch a video that involves a ship, try to notice as the ocean waves smash into the ship.

Read that result again and look closely at its unit. I wrote: 43870+ days (!) of atmospheric pressure and water pressure . Now you make me laugh about the timeline question. Everyone (an hyperbole!) knows the timeline except you. Seek Google for the timeline of the event.

Where did you see or read that untreated woods can survive for over 120 years? Don't you know woods rot, both hard and soft? You have just been mentioning Nigeria all this while, yet you cannot give me one good example of a house that was built with untreated wood during the time of Lord Lugard that still stands, not to talk of a boat. Even the treated ones still rot, because treatment only slows down the rate of rotting. Hard woods wouldn't last up to ten years before it starts decaying. Meaning that, only the would used 10 years before the flood would survive fungi attack.

Also mystify these logical questions about the tale:

https://sensuouscurmudgeon./2012/11/13/top-ten-reasons-noahs-flood-is-mythology/

The only way you can draw this argument with me is by going the "supernatural" way, just like other religionists. Let me help you out:

God being omnipotent, super-pressure treated the woods that were used for the manufacturing of the boat! In short, he was the labourer! Thank me through a pm!

NumberOne2:

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Bologna is particularly beautiful. One of the reasons was because it wasn't bombed during World War II, so it's completely intact. Also, the University gives the town a particular combined tradition of hard work but free culture.

This wood is so durable because it's old-growth, and was hand-split and quarter-sawn, which allows the wood to find its own strongest internal structure. It was also slowly air-dried, and some of it was even seasoned with smoke, which promote hardness and strength.

This process can't be faked. Of course, these days, with composites and other stuff, wood does exciting new things, but we should all be cultivating trees on vacant land to assure this older, more durable wood is in more plentiful supply for future generations. Japan has a government program to do this.

Interestingly, my class (I'm studying architectural technology) took a trip to the UBC campus yesterday to look at a number of the buildings. There are many examples of parallams and glulams that have been used as exterior supporting members. Many have not fared well, especially the parallams. Vancouver is very wet though, with little drying potential during the winter months, so buildings here are exposed to very different conditions than the above example. Additionally they were built at a time when not as much was known about the performance of engineered beams that are exposed to the elements. Surprisingly though, some of the newer building are showing signs of problems associated with their wooden components.

No doubt in the right climate with the correct detailing manufactured beams can do the job but should be used with caution.

It's true that sometimes wood can survive a very, very long time. But it's got a much narrower set of conditions where that is true than other materials. It needs to be dry, but not to dry.

You can find examples of very delicate things lasting a very long time in given situations, but that does not in any way change the fact that over-all, for most of the world, wood does not have the longevity of other materials.

And even in your example here, it's wooden support beams, that are primarily dry, under a brick structure. They are not the entire structure, they are a protected support structure. If you look around, I would bet that you would find examples where similar installations have had to be replaced, because the wood rotted out.

Used appropriately, any material can have some use. And used inappropriately, any material can be destroyed in a fairly short period of time...I'm currently removing a twenty year old concrete patio that is, on the underside, crumbly sand.

But concrete, overall, lasts much much longer than wood. Stone lasts much longer. Brick lasts much longer, in a wider variety of situations and conditions.

Wood can get wet as long as it dries out. The climate in Bologna enables that. The concern with many of the glues and adhesives that are used in glulam, CLT, LVL, OSB, etc, is that it changes the moisture properties of wood, many times rendering them less vapour permeable. We have also lost many of the techniques utilized to ensure that the wood is not exposed to micro-environments that are conducive to rot.

theAtheist101:

How old are you?

theAtheist101:

I asked you to give me an example of untreated wood, you are showing me a treated one. Even with the treatment, the comments below the post made by intelligent people , warned the author never to try wood in some structural installations and in some climates.

This ends my argument with you any further reply from you would just be read. Learn to be critical in your thinking! Thank you for wasting my time.