The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 6:34am On Jul 03, 2015 |
Christians often cite Psalm 14:1 as a rebuke of atheists.However,the Hebrew word translated "fool" doesn't have the same connotations as the English word. The passage actually says that we are all foolish.
Psalm 14:1 is the verse that a lot of Christians like to quote to atheists, believing it is a rebuke of their atheism. However, if we look at the entire passage, we see a different picture:
Psalms 14:1-3: The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (2) The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. (3) All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
Christians usually only quote the first half of Psalm 14:1, as if it is a slap in the face to atheists. Is this really a verse against atheism?
FOOL'S CHARACTERISTIC. The second half of verse 14:1 says "They are corrupt, their deeds are vile." At first, you might think that the "they" are those who disbelieve in the existence of God. However, the end of verse 14:1 says "there is no one who does good." One might still think that the verse is referring to atheists. However, Psalm 14:2-3 make it clear that as God looks down on all people, He can find none who are not corrupt, emphasizing it with "not even one."
The Hebrew word translated "fool" is nâbâl, which is an adjective having the meaning of "stupid, wicked" or "vile person." It comes from the root verb nâbêl, which means "to fall away," "figuratively to be foolish or (morally) wicked" or "causatively to despise, disgrace: - disgrace, dishonour." So, the Hebrew word nâbâl refers more to bad moral character rather than just being stupid. He is foolish because he thinks God will not notice his bad behavior.
WHO IS THE FOOL? The passage makes it clear that God can find nobody who does good or even tries to understand God's ways. From God's perspective, not one person attains His standard of moral behavior. So, God sees all of us as fools. We all like to compare our behavior to that of others. Example!! When I was still a sinners(atheists)I was morally superior to most Christians. However, I was still not measuring up to God's moral code.
HOW TO MEASURE UP. Unless you think you can lead a perfectly moral life, God has a solution for your problem. God's solution is to allow you to trade your moral imperfection for the moral perfection of Jesus Christ. The trade is accomplished through faith in Jesus' sacrifice as payment for your sins. The offer is really generous, but will cost you your self-righteousness. No, you can't remain an atheist either. As the psalmist says, you must "seek God."
CONCLUSION The fool says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist, but because he thinks he can get away with bad moral behavior. Psalm 14 goes on to say that all people are corrupt and there is not even one who does good. So, God says that we are all immoral fools. It is only through faith in Jesus Christ that we He can measure up to the moral perfection required by a Holy God. So what the verse is saying is DON'T BE A FOOL AND THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 6:37am On Jul 03, 2015 |
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Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 7:04am On Jul 03, 2015 |
This marvis of a guy, w no go hear word for u?
The way u carry God matter for head makes me think u re been paid. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by iliyande(m): 7:11am On Jul 03, 2015 |
I think you should find something better doing than to compile such a long write up just to challenge those who doesn't care if you exist. Putting this strength you use in writing this should've been more beneficial to you than just to challenge someone's believe. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 7:12am On Jul 03, 2015 |
krattoss: This marvis of a guy, w no go hear word for u? The way u carry God matter for head makes me think u re been paid. when you see someone serious about God, then you should know, God's there. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 7:33am On Jul 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212: when you see someone serious about God, then you should know, God's there. ok. Tell him i said hi. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 7:35am On Jul 03, 2015 |
krattoss: ok. Tell him i said hi. He knows you more than you think. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Anas09: 7:39am On Jul 03, 2015 |
I love you brother Malvis. You are a true Apostle of Christ. The Acts of the Apostles continues. Don't bother with what our brothers from a different father are saying here, keep doing it. Believe me, many come to this section looking for ur writeups, many of them don't comment but read, learn get encouraged. I for one, always come here looking out for the SonofIssachar, now you are a second person I look out for. Thanks for always blessing my heart. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 7:51am On Jul 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212: He knows you more than you think. and he knows where i will be going if i die? Then why wasting time on bringing me if he actually knows my end result. Likewise everyother person in the worrld. He knew U S would sign gay into law? He knew of the heat waves in pakistan? Knew of the earthquakes in haiti? Knew of the bombings in the northeast? And he folds his arms to watch us suffer on an experiment he knew the end result? Nawa for this ur God oo 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 8:39am On Jul 03, 2015 |
krattoss: and he knows where i will be going if i die? Then why wasting time on bringing me if he actually knows my end result. Likewise everyother person in the worrld.
He knew U S would sign gay into law?
He knew of the heat waves in pakistan?
Knew of the earthquakes in haiti?
Knew of the bombings in the northeast? And he folds his arms to watch us suffer on an experiment he knew the end result?
Nawa for this ur God oo God pre-determined, not the IDENTITY of the saved, but the CHARACTER of the saved. In order to fulfill His prophecies, God must predestine history. I do not opposed to predestination, for the scripture teaches it. However, Calvin's view of predestination is unbiblical as you are indicating |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by waldigit: 9:41am On Jul 03, 2015 |
krattoss: and he knows where i will be going if i die? Then why wasting time on bringing me if he actually knows my end result. Likewise everyother person in the worrld.
He knew U S would sign gay into law?
He knew of the heat waves in pakistan?
Knew of the earthquakes in haiti?
Knew of the bombings in the northeast? And he folds his arms to watch us suffer on an experiment he knew the end result?
Nawa for this ur God oo There u go again, sounding like the one they refer to in the topic |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 9:50am On Jul 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212: God pre-determined, not the IDENTITY of the saved, but the CHARACTER of the saved. In order to fulfill His prophecies, God must predestine history.
I do not opposed to predestination, for the scripture teaches it. However, Calvin's view of predestination is unbiblical as you are indicating that means that i dont have to worry anymore since i have been predestined by God. So anything i do is not by my own making whether good or bad. Wonderfull......... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 9:54am On Jul 03, 2015 |
waldigit:
There u go again, sounding like the one they refer to in the topic please i will advice u to just keep off my mentions if u dont knw the root of our argument. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 10:11am On Jul 03, 2015 |
Mmhm the fool will always ask for proof nd blame God for everything. See he who has accepted Christ knows there is a God, because he feels the aura of good around him, even those that worship satan, forget that they brag about it they know that it is evil. REVELATION 1:3 "blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, nd blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near" most of u will say we have been waiting but nothing .. No patience but if it was to wait for the guy supplying weed ,u will. Most of u are lazy, nd know that to serve the lord requires handwork. Why don't you accept Christ today, leave wat those hypocrites say about Christ, u see for yourself. If there is no God, there would not have been a name called God in the first place. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by plaetton: 12:31pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Christians often cite Psalm 14:1 as a rebuke of atheists.However,the Hebrew word translated "fool" doesn't have the same connotations as the English word. The passage actually says that we are all foolish.
Psalm 14:1 is the verse that a lot of Christians like to quote to atheists, believing it is a rebuke of their atheism. However, if we look at the entire passage, we see a different picture:
Psalms 14:1-3: The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (2) The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. (3) All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
Christians usually only quote the first half of Psalm 14:1, as if it is a slap in the face to atheists. Is this really a verse against atheism?
FOOL'S CHARACTERISTIC. The second half of verse 14:1 says "They are corrupt, their deeds are vile." At first, you might think that the "they" are those who disbelieve in the existence of God. However, the end of verse 14:1 says "there is no one who does good." One might still think that the verse is referring to atheists. However, Psalm 14:2-3 make it clear that as God looks down on all people, He can find none who are not corrupt, emphasizing it with "not even one."
The Hebrew word translated "fool" is nâbâl, which is an adjective having the meaning of "stupid, wicked" or "vile person." It comes from the root verb nâbêl, which means "to fall away," "figuratively to be foolish or (morally) wicked" or "causatively to despise, disgrace: - disgrace, dishonour." So, the Hebrew word nâbâl refers more to bad moral character rather than just being stupid. He is foolish because he thinks God will not notice his bad behavior.
WHO IS THE FOOL? The passage makes it clear that God can find nobody who does good or even tries to understand God's ways. From God's perspective, not one person attains His standard of moral behavior. So, God sees all of us as fools. We all like to compare our behavior to that of others. Example!! When I was still a sinners(atheists)I was morally superior to most Christians. However, I was still not measuring up to God's moral code.
HOW TO MEASURE UP. Unless you think you can lead a perfectly moral life, God has a solution for your problem. God's solution is to allow you to trade your moral imperfection for the moral perfection of Jesus Christ. The trade is accomplished through faith in Jesus' sacrifice as payment for your sins. The offer is really generous, but will cost you your self-righteousness. No, you can't remain an atheist either. As the psalmist says, you must "seek God."
CONCLUSION The fool says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist, but because he thinks he can get away with bad moral behavior. Psalm 14 goes on to say that all people are corrupt and there is not even one who does good. So, God says that we are all immoral fools. It is only through faith in Jesus Christ that we He can measure up to the moral perfection required by a Holy God. So what the verse is saying is DON'T BE A FOOL AND THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN.
And a foolish god says there are no other gods. - logicboy03, 2013. 4 Likes |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Nobody: 12:41pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
Abeg wen did he say so ^^^ |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 3:02pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
plaetton:
And a foolish god says there are no other gods. - logicboy03, 2013.
Tell the logicman , his logic was flaw. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 3:04pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
Blossom023: Mmhm the fool will always ask for proof nd blame God for everything. See he who has accepted Christ knows there is a God, because he feels the aura of good around him, even those that worship satan, forget that they brag about it they know that it is evil. REVELATION 1:3 "blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, nd blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near" most of u will say we have been waiting but nothing .. No patience but if it was to wait for the guy supplying weed ,u will. Most of u are lazy, nd know that to serve the lord requires handwork. Why don't you accept Christ today, leave wat those hypocrites say about Christ, u see for yourself. If there is no God, there would not have been a name called God in the first place. don't mind this atheists. Nice one. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 3:32pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
krattoss: that means that i dont have to worry anymore since i have been predestined by God.
So anything i do is not by my own making whether good or bad.
Wonderfull......... you need a lot to learn about God,ok assume you are right( offcorse you are wrong) read Jeremiah 26 and see how God pronounced judgment on the king of isreal but with fervent prayer God revised it in verse 26: Jeremiah 26:19 "Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and the LORD changed His mind about the misfortune which He had pronounced against them? But we are committing a great evil against ourselves." |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 12:03am On Jul 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Christians often cite Psalm 14:1 as a rebuke of atheists.However,the Hebrew word translated "fool" doesn't have the same connotations as the English word. The passage actually says that we are all foolish.
Psalm 14:1 is the verse that a lot of Christians like to quote to atheists, believing it is a rebuke of their atheism. However, if we look at the entire passage, we see a different picture:
Psalms 14:1-3: The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (2) The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. (3) All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
Christians usually only quote the first half of Psalm 14:1, as if it is a slap in the face to atheists. Is this really a verse against atheism?
FOOL'S CHARACTERISTIC. The second half of verse 14:1 says "They are corrupt, their deeds are vile." At first, you might think that the "they" are those who disbelieve in the existence of God. However, the end of verse 14:1 says "there is no one who does good." One might still think that the verse is referring to atheists. However, Psalm 14:2-3 make it clear that as God looks down on all people, He can find none who are not corrupt, emphasizing it with "not even one."
The Hebrew word translated "fool" is nâbâl, which is an adjective having the meaning of "stupid, wicked" or "vile person." It comes from the root verb nâbêl, which means "to fall away," "figuratively to be foolish or (morally) wicked" or "causatively to despise, disgrace: - disgrace, dishonour." So, the Hebrew word nâbâl refers more to bad moral character rather than just being stupid. He is foolish because he thinks God will not notice his bad behavior.
WHO IS THE FOOL? The passage makes it clear that God can find nobody who does good or even tries to understand God's ways. From God's perspective, not one person attains His standard of moral behavior. So, God sees all of us as fools. We all like to compare our behavior to that of others. Example!! When I was still a sinners(atheists)I was morally superior to most Christians. However, I was still not measuring up to God's moral code.
HOW TO MEASURE UP. Unless you think you can lead a perfectly moral life, God has a solution for your problem. God's solution is to allow you to trade your moral imperfection for the moral perfection of Jesus Christ. The trade is accomplished through faith in Jesus' sacrifice as payment for your sins. The offer is really generous, but will cost you your self-righteousness. No, you can't remain an atheist either. As the psalmist says, you must "seek God."
CONCLUSION The fool says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist, but because he thinks he can get away with bad moral behavior. Psalm 14 goes on to say that all people are corrupt and there is not even one who does good. So, God says that we are all immoral fools. It is only through faith in Jesus Christ that we He can measure up to the moral perfection required by a Holy God. So what the verse is saying is DON'T BE A FOOL AND THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN.
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Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by johnw74: 4:12am On Jul 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Christians often cite Psalm 14:1 as a rebuke of atheists.However,the Hebrew word translated "fool" doesn't have the same connotations as the English word. The passage actually says that we are all foolish.
Psalm 14:1 is the verse that a lot of Christians like to quote to atheists, believing it is a rebuke of their atheism. However, if we look at the entire passage, we see a different picture:
Psalms 14:1-3: The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (2) The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. (3) All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
Christians usually only quote the first half of Psalm 14:1, as if it is a slap in the face to atheists. Is this really a verse against atheism?
FOOL'S CHARACTERISTIC. The second half of verse 14:1 says "They are corrupt, their deeds are vile." At first, you might think that the "they" are those who disbelieve in the existence of God. However, the end of verse 14:1 says "there is no one who does good." One might still think that the verse is referring to atheists. However, Psalm 14:2-3 make it clear that as God looks down on all people, He can find none who are not corrupt, emphasizing it with "not even one."
The Hebrew word translated "fool" is nâbâl, which is an adjective having the meaning of "stupid, wicked" or "vile person." It comes from the root verb nâbêl, which means "to fall away," "figuratively to be foolish or (morally) wicked" or "causatively to despise, disgrace: - disgrace, dishonour." So, the Hebrew word nâbâl refers more to bad moral character rather than just being stupid. He is foolish because he thinks God will not notice his bad behavior. In the case od Psalm 14:1 the person is a fool mainly because he-she doesn't believe in God, and not just because of bad behaviour. Psalms 14:1 The fool says in his heart, there is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. WHO IS THE FOOL? The passage makes it clear that God can find nobody who does good or even tries to understand God's ways. From God's perspective, not one person attains His standard of moral behavior. So, God sees all of us as fools. We all like to compare our behavior to that of others. Example!! When I was still a sinners(atheists)I was morally superior to most Christians. However, I was still not measuring up to God's moral code.
HOW TO MEASURE UP. Unless you think you can lead a perfectly moral life, God has a solution for your problem. God's solution is to allow you to trade your moral imperfection for the moral perfection of Jesus Christ. The trade is accomplished through faith in Jesus' sacrifice as payment for your sins. The offer is really generous, but will cost you your self-righteousness. No, you can't remain an atheist either. As the psalmist says, you must "seek God."
CONCLUSION The fool says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist That's a contradiction. , but because he thinks he can get away with bad moral behavior. Psalm 14 goes on to say that all people are corrupt and there is not even one who does good. So, God says that we are all immoral fools. It is only through faith in Jesus Christ that we He can measure up to the moral perfection required by a Holy God. So what the verse is saying is DON'T BE A FOOL AND THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN.
Atheists are fools for not believing in God, God's inspired word says so. Just read MizJanet's posts and see for yourself. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 6:25am On Jul 04, 2015 |
johnw74:
In the case od Psalm 14:1 the person is a fool mainly because he-she doesn't believe in God, and not just because of bad behaviour. Psalms 14:1 The fool says in his heart, there is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
That's a contradiction.
Atheists are fools for not believing in God, God's inspired word says so. Just read MizJanet's posts and see for yourself.
. He is not a fool because he is an atheist BUT because he think he can get away with his bad moral behavior .he IS a fool because he think God will not notice his bad moral behavior. Not a contradictions. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by princeogbeide1(m): 8:10am On Jul 04, 2015 |
some dumb and foolish Africans will not observe an average thinking that no god exist. I feel bitter for uuu christians 1 Like |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by kolajamesjnr(m): 8:17am On Jul 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: you need a lot to learn about God,ok assume you are right( offcorse you are wrong) read Jeremiah 26 and see how God pronounced judgment on the king of isreal but with fervent prayer God revised it in verse 26:
Jeremiah 26:19 "Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and the LORD changed His mind about the misfortune which He had pronounced against them? But we are committing a great evil against ourselves."
And same bible says god never go back on is word Isaiah 5:11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Scholar8200(m): 8:29am On Jul 04, 2015 |
kolajamesjnr:
And same bible says god never go back on is word Isaiah 5:11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. A promise/covenant is not the same as a warning of impending judgement declared with the expectation that the hearer will amend his ways and avert it. 1 Like |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 8:47am On Jul 04, 2015 |
kolajamesjnr:
And same bible says god never go back on is word Isaiah 5:11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. God bless you scholar. Kolajamesjnr. There is a big different between revelation and God pronouncing judgment. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by kolajamesjnr(m): 8:51am On Jul 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: God bless you scholar.
Kolajamesjnr. There is a big different between revelation and God pronouncing judgment. Am listening... |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 9:04am On Jul 04, 2015 |
kolajamesjnr:
Am listening... there is NO place in the bible God made a revelation and then later change it, but we read through out the bible when the children of isreal sin God anger will be against them but if they repent God will have mercy on them. |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by Scholar8200(m): 11:49am On Jul 04, 2015 |
malvisguy212: God bless you scholar.
Kolajamesjnr. There is a big different between revelation and God pronouncing judgment. Amen, thank you! |
Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 4:58am On Jul 19, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Christians often cite Psalm 14:1 as a rebuke of atheists.However,the Hebrew word translated "fool" doesn't have the same connotations as the English word. The passage actually says that we are all foolish.
Psalm 14:1 is the verse that a lot of Christians like to quote to atheists, believing it is a rebuke of their atheism. However, if we look at the entire passage, we see a different picture:
Psalms 14:1-3: The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (2) The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. (3) All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
Christians usually only quote the first half of Psalm 14:1, as if it is a slap in the face to atheists. Is this really a verse against atheism?
FOOL'S CHARACTERISTIC. The second half of verse 14:1 says "They are corrupt, their deeds are vile." At first, you might think that the "they" are those who disbelieve in the existence of God. However, the end of verse 14:1 says "there is no one who does good." One might still think that the verse is referring to atheists. However, Psalm 14:2-3 make it clear that as God looks down on all people, He can find none who are not corrupt, emphasizing it with "not even one."
The Hebrew word translated "fool" is nâbâl, which is an adjective having the meaning of "stupid, wicked" or "vile person." It comes from the root verb nâbêl, which means "to fall away," "figuratively to be foolish or (morally) wicked" or "causatively to despise, disgrace: - disgrace, dishonour." So, the Hebrew word nâbâl refers more to bad moral character rather than just being stupid. He is foolish because he thinks God will not notice his bad behavior.
WHO IS THE FOOL? The passage makes it clear that God can find nobody who does good or even tries to understand God's ways. From God's perspective, not one person attains His standard of moral behavior. So, God sees all of us as fools. We all like to compare our behavior to that of others. Example!! When I was still a sinners(atheists)I was morally superior to most Christians. However, I was still not measuring up to God's moral code.
HOW TO MEASURE UP. Unless you think you can lead a perfectly moral life, God has a solution for your problem. God's solution is to allow you to trade your moral imperfection for the moral perfection of Jesus Christ. The trade is accomplished through faith in Jesus' sacrifice as payment for your sins. The offer is really generous, but will cost you your self-righteousness. No, you can't remain an atheist either. As the psalmist says, you must "seek God."
CONCLUSION The fool says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist, but because he thinks he can get away with bad moral behavior. Psalm 14 goes on to say that all people are corrupt and there is not even one who does good. So, God says that we are all immoral fools. It is only through faith in Jesus Christ that we He can measure up to the moral perfection required by a Holy God. So what the verse is saying is DON'T BE A FOOL AND THINK YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN.
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Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by saintneo(m): 7:12am On Jul 19, 2015 |
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Re: The Fool Say There Is No God. by malvisguy212: 7:55am On Jul 19, 2015 |
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