sultaan:
I hope everyone understands that I do not doubt the opinions of aunty Radu, I just feel if she had owned a Ford vehicle, her first hand opinion will not be as negative as it is now.
I owned 3 grand cherokee(5 years for two each), a 300(5 years now) and a ford fusion(11 years)
They are not 100% but I can live with their minor problems.
If you buy car because you like it, it will be taken care of.

radautoworks:


I agree with you 100% if you want to get a lot of features for cheap, ford is your brand. That being said, I have driven many and have friends that owned. They constantly were in the shop for one thing or another. I have owned only ford excursion, expedition and many E350s that we even exported to Nigeria because I know them from experience to be durable even if gas mileage SUCKS. The expedition for me is borderline but the excursion and the E350s are the best Fords. The Ford edge specifically you cannot give me for free as I have seen way to many issues compared to mileage on them disproportionate to other cars.

When I worked in sales for Toyota and Chrysler, there were certain cars reserved for people with bad credit who couldn't get approved for anything else. Ford edge, ford fusion, mitsubishi diamante, Mazda tribute, pontiac anything, etc. Those were the last resort for people who couldn't get approved on other vehicles because they looked pretty and you could convince people to settle for them and they were dirt cheap because of lousy resale value.

That being said, I sense you maintain your cars well. Most cars you will be mostly okay if you do routine maintainance. Ford edge though na so so recall and TSB everyday. It was ridiculous!


Funny that you mentioned the Grand Cherokee as I have a soft spot for it too but would never buy one after working at Chrysler and seeing them parading in and out all day long. I would rent one to go off-road though

valarinz:



One thing is just certain : you don't like Ford cars. Maybe you just let go and stopped typing now sha, it's someone's workshop.

It's more like someone comes to your thread and starts giving a ton of reasons and scenarios why it's not ideal to use your workshop and tries to justify it more and more.

The Ford Edge you're busy slacking, they full naija roads taking their owners from point A to B, if it were that bad like you paint it, it would've stopped selling here by now. Note it's been years it entered our market and it's still selling, cars like Freelander, Nissan Quest etc have fizzled out, Ford Edge is still here

valarinz:



One thing is just certain : you don't like Ford cars. Maybe you just let go and stopped typing now sha, it's someone's workshop.

It's more like someone comes to your thread and starts giving a ton of reasons and scenarios why it's not ideal to use your workshop and tries to justify it more and more.

The Ford Edge you're busy slacking, they full naija roads taking their owners from point A to B, if it were that bad like you paint it, it would've stopped selling here by now. Note it's been years it entered our market and it's still selling, cars like Freelander, Nissan Quest etc have fizzled out, Ford Edge is still here

radautoworks:

I hear you. I'm not against his workshop o. He's the one that started doing personal attacks. Ford edge full America too and there is a reason that I already gave. There are pros to the car and also cons but somehow na only the cons dem dey fixate on. Na simple comment about one particular iteration of one car bring us reach here. You noticed I first said I won't even engage when he called me a liar and was talking to sultaan when he continued calling someone incompetent.

I hate BMW but cannot argue that they are not excellent driver's cars. Just like people hate Volvo but I've stood up for Volvo in the past because you cannot deny their reliability and safety. So my dear valarinz, when it comes to cars, it's never personal for me. I'm always objective. The problem comes when people use emotion to argue facts.

valarinz:


I see you always like to appear right and never lose an argument too, Goodluck ma

Femtopford:
I wasn't able to reply in the contest since 3 days ago, my last reply that I posted, surprising I found that I was blocked by nairaland, I was able to view but couldn't post, anytime I it luckily posted it would be removed within 2 seconds, I couldn't deduce what went wrong so I assumed it was the humiliating words I used in the contest "WHITE LIE".

If my speculation were correct, I render my deepest Apologies to nairaland administration/IT, to radautoworks and to the entire viewers all over the globe.

The reality is that I am just 25 years in automobile. I hardly visit here, always and extremely busy, close monitoring my mechanics while repairing in my workshop. So I wouldn't want my hard works in promoting Ford reliability to go up in smoke, still my sincere apologies to my contestant(radauto), to nairaland internal/extanal personal, to nairalanders and to entire viewers of the world.

The Ford owners that had been to my workshop all came out with smiles on their faces after they had suffered terribly from non ford specialist. So I believe that this kind of my stewardship is still need by millions of ford owners out there that were trapped by wrong ford approach of repairs.

Best regards.

henryskywalker2003:


I for one has gained a lot from both Femtopford and this thread. The information shared here has been more than helpful many times. I am sure you never meant any disrespect with your words. Besides, its good to have these kind of banters now and then, albeit we all remain respectful of each person's views. Looking forward to more engagements on this thread.

radautoworks:
Dude. Take a chill pill. You fix Ford. Fine. Every brands has its pros and cons. Like I pointed out above, the Ford edge is popular for a reason. My point is don't tell people it's all roses when it is not. If you truly care about people, you will tell them both the good AND the bad so they will know what they are getting into. And this applies to ALL brands not just Ford.


Relax. Life is too short to die from HBP over a single sentence. I wish you well.

valarinz:


Aunty Radu, biko are you like this in real life or you're just doing this on Nairaland deliberately to gain popularity and draw attention to your biz.

radautoworks:


Like what Have you asked other male NLers that kind of question before? Regardless, see below for the answer to your question.

radautoworks:
Dude. Take a chill pill. You fix Ford. Fine. Every brands has its pros and cons. Like I pointed out above, the Ford edge is popular for a reason. My point is don't tell people it's all roses when it is not. If you truly care about people, you will tell them both the good AND the bad so they will know what they are getting into. And this applies to ALL brands not just Ford.


Relax. Life is too short to die from HBP over a single sentence. I wish you well.

Eddee:
Ah, sh*t! How tf did I get here

valarinz:



Hian, the thing Don turn feminism abi, oya na

valarinz:


Aunty Radu, biko are you like this in real life or you're just doing this on Nairaland deliberately to gain popularity and draw attention to your biz.

sultaan:


Remember Murano, pathfinder and montero.

I see more 2011+ explorer than expected compared to the 4runner.

The value is there for those going that route to each it's own reason for purchasing a Ford.
American cars are designed to go 55mph at that speed they are best for road trips. Not off-road like Nigerian roads all the time. If our people truly understand cars, then purchase will only be by desires.Ford Edge is cheap to own and maintain with the same gadgets are the premium brands

radautoworks:
Dude. Take a chill pill. You fix Ford. Fine. Every brands has its pros and cons. Like I pointed out above, the Ford edge is popular for a reason. My point is don't tell people it's all roses when it is not. If you truly care about people, you will tell them both the good AND the bad so they will know what they are getting into. And this applies to ALL brands not just Ford.


Relax. Life is too short to die from HBP over a single sentence. I wish you well.

Ikenna351:


You do realise you contradicted yourself. If you knew all Brands/cars have their pros and cons (positives and negatives), how come you didn't point out the positives of the Edge he indicated interest in? Instead you condemned the car completely with the long "No". An expert on the Ford brand will point out the positives and negatives concerning the Edge model the person is interested in and let the perosn decides if he/she is comfortable with the negatives and excited with the positives or simply walk away from the car for something else. You didn't give him that chance to make his choice and decision from options he is to be made aware of.

The thing with Japanese fans is they see nothing wrong with their brands yet always eager to jump in and condemn other brands. You claimed there were a lot of recalls on the car, what about the thousands or millions of Japanese brands/cars they recall yearly. You forgot to mention that as well? So if it's safe for people to buy the frequent recalled Japanese cars, why is it a problem to buy recalled Ford vehicles? Why singling out Ford only as if the Asian brands are saint in this matter you raised?

This idea of reliability when it comes to cars is stuppid to me, because its subjective. Hundreds, if not thousands, of foreign used (tokunbo) Japanese engines and automatic gearboxes are brought into Apo markets here in Abuja weekly. Yet, they are sold off within a week or so and another hundred or thousand batch are brought in the coming or subsequent weeks. Who are buying off these Japanese engines and automatic gearboxes from the sellers? Do people purchased and replaced a perfectly working engines and automatic gearboxes with used ones if they didn't fail? Yet these people would tell you there cars are so reliable even though they probably have replaced the engines, auto gearboxes or both twice, including everyone around them.

I know some Toyota Camry users that carry spare engine oil in their booths daily for top up. They top up their engine oils weekly more than they top up fuel tank, yet they only see problems with other brands and not theirs staring them back on their faces up and close.

If you are all for Japanese cars, there is nothing wrong with that. But understand that no matter how good you think they are, some people will prefer something different. Not every man wants to live by other people choice. I for one is a living example.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

Ikenna351:


You do realise you contradicted yourself. If you knew all Brands/cars have their pros and cons (positives and negatives), how come you didn't point out the positives of the Edge he indicated interest in? Instead you condemned the car completely with the long "No". An expert on the Ford brand will point out the positives and negatives concerning the Edge model the person is interested in and let the perosn decides if he/she is comfortable with the negatives and excited with the positives or simply walk away from the car for something else. You didn't give him that chance to make his choice and decision from options he is to be made aware of.

The thing with Japanese fans is they see nothing wrong with their brands yet always eager to jump in and condemn other brands. You claimed there were a lot of recalls on the car, what about the thousands or millions of Japanese brands/cars they recall yearly. You forgot to mention that as well? So if it's safe for people to buy the frequent recalled Japanese cars, why is it a problem to buy recalled Ford vehicles? Why singling out Ford only as if the Asian brands are saint in this matter you raised?

This idea of reliability when it comes to cars is stuppid to me, because its subjective. Hundreds, if not thousands, of foreign used (tokunbo) Japanese engines and automatic gearboxes are brought into Apo markets here in Abuja weekly. Yet, they are sold off within a week or so and another hundred or thousand batch are brought in the coming or subsequent weeks. Who are buying off these Japanese engines and automatic gearboxes from the sellers? Do people purchased and replaced a perfectly working engines and automatic gearboxes with used ones if they didn't fail? Yet these people would tell you there cars are so reliable even though they probably have replaced the engines, auto gearboxes or both twice, including everyone around them.

I know some Toyota Camry users that carry spare engine oil in their booths daily for top up. They top up their engine oils weekly more than they top up fuel tank, yet they only see problems with other brands and not theirs staring them back on their faces up and close.

If you are all for Japanese cars, there is nothing wrong with that. But understand that no matter how good you think they are, some people will prefer something different. Not every man wants to live by other people choice. I for one is a living example.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

MASTAkiLLAh:
Been using a Ford EcoSport for about three years now, never visited a mechanic for once except when all tires were changed last year at a dealer place in festac and regular (?) servicing

Femtopford:
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NO NO NO NO . I will not let you diplomatically slip out of this. Now you are telling me that pros and con apply to all vehicle's brand,where as you have been adamantly condemning ford to be inferior to other brands right from the beginning of this contest now you are trying to group them together systematically , i won't let you slip out of it easily .You have to give me and all ford lovers a concrete conviction why ford is inferior to other brands you have already told the whole world that even in american workshops ford are bread and butter and scrap cheap, so you can't go back on your own word's.
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HBP can never know my door step, because ford is already given me passion and a lot of happiness .