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Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 1:51am On Sep 27, 2015
Anyone who has been around the CMS world most have heard of the word "drupal", and the most talked about topic in the drupal community right now is "when will drupal 8 RC be out?". Now my question is "How come no one is creating a buzz over this in Nairaland?", I mean it will be fun to have a group of drupal savvy discuses their favorite feature of drupal 8 and what they think should have been added to it but was left out. e.g
i recently installed a drupal 8beta just to take the new born for a ride and discovered that what i did in drupal 7 with 4 modules at least came packed in core of drupal 8 with 200 other features am yet to exploit not to mention the kickass administrative back-end view.
Now with all that goody goodies shipping with drupal 8 one would ask "what can i possibly complain about?".
Well i do have a complain, and its "why the hell didnt they include pathauto as a core module??" i mean 99.99% of drupal sites run with this module.
shear your views people.
what is it that makes you happy about drupal 8? and if your not satisfied please do tell why.

Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by okosodo: 3:34am On Sep 27, 2015
me
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 9:57am On Sep 27, 2015
okosodo:
me
Do you have any project on hold solely because of D8?
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 10:18am On Sep 27, 2015
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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 10:24am On Sep 27, 2015
One thing i cant wrap my head around tho. since Views is dependent on Chaos Tools and views is now part of drupal core. Does this mean CTools is now also a core module?
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 12:58pm On Sep 27, 2015
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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by spikesC(m): 4:02pm On Sep 27, 2015
anitchec:
One thing i cant wrap my head around tho. since Views is dependent on Chaos Tools and views is now part of drupal core. Does this mean CTools is now also a core module?

I think they developed their own core support for views. And I know they didn't just integrate views into the system.
I worked with drupal for a few months so not 'really' a drupal guy
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by okosodo: 4:26pm On Sep 27, 2015
anitchec:

Do you have any project on hold solely because of D8?
no
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 7:58pm On Sep 27, 2015
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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by nigerianescorts: 9:09pm On Sep 27, 2015
i love drupal.I use drupal on 2 of my websites.I heard entity reference is now part of drupal core.I wish entity reference can be used as exposed filters to select parent and child taxonomies or creating a parent and child categories like an automobile website where you have make and model so when make is selected the model wll immediately show on a select list.@ anitchec do you have a way to go over this on drupal 7.I used shs module on drupal 7 but the 2 filters dont show at the same time.The second filter only shows after selecting value of first field and veiws displays only parent taxonomy value,no way to display child value of taxonomy on views. I have seen several tutorials on entity reference.I hope that will be easier with drupal 8
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 10:26pm On Sep 27, 2015
nigerianescorts:
i love drupal.I use drupal on 2 of my websites.I heard entity reference is now part of drupal core.I wish entity reference can be used as exposed filters to select parent and child taxonomies or creating a parent and child categories like an automobile website where you have make and model so when make is selected the model wll immediately show on a select list.@ anitchec do you have a way to go over this on drupal 7.I used shs module on drupal 7 but the 2 filters dont show at the same time.The second filter only shows after selecting value of first field and veiws displays only parent taxonomy value,no way to display child value of taxonomy on views. I have seen several tutorials on entity reference.I hope that will be easier with drupal 8

you heard right, Entity Reference is now a core module in drupal 8 but whether or not its going to do what you want is what i cant assure.
about the views not displaying taxonomy terms, i have had similar problems in one of my sites still in development stage but i took the easy way out by creating two different content types and adding the fields i need to filter, then use the views menu tab to split them. e.g you can create a content type named Honda and Toyota then add 2 new content of the Honda content type and call them accord and civic, add new content of the Toyota content type and call them camery and corola. now go over to views and create two pages, one to display Honda content types and the other to display Toyota's and name the links accordingly. that way when your users click on Honda or Toyota it displays the models on different pages. if your worried on the whole site refreshing each time they tab through just turn on views Ajax.
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by togbonna: 6:00pm On Sep 28, 2015
IMHO, if you have any serious (business) interest in Drupal (as I have) right now, you will be much aware that Drupal 7 still occupies center stage despite all the glamours of Drupal 8. There's still so much more to learn and exploit (from a business perspective) with D7. Right now, and for about at least 2 years from now, you can not undertake any real serious project with Drupal 8. This is because it will take that long for D8 to mature to the point of being marginally useful (A critical quantity of key contrib module will have to catch up with the maturity of the D8 core for this to happen).

So if it seems that there is no or not much buzz around the upcoming stable release of D8 among Naija Drupal practitioners, just know that it has less to do with lack of interest and more on practicality (ie D8 has no business value locally for now). But be assured the buzz is going on among the local Drupal community, through series of local meetups (http://drupalnigeria.org) and online elsewhere, outside of nairaland (https://www./drupal.ng, http://icelark.com/blogs/a-journey-towards-drupal-8-development-mastery-the-road-map, http://2015.drupalnigeria.org).

So keep the faith, the buzz will build up rapidly, VERY SOON.
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by chipzidar(f): 10:08pm On Sep 28, 2015
dont really knw about drupal.. can u gimme link to a website using drupal?
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 11:35pm On Sep 28, 2015
togbonna:
IMHO, if you have any serious (business) interest in Drupal (as I have) right now, you will be much aware that Drupal 7 still occupies center stage despite all the glamours of Drupal 8. There's still so much more to learn and exploit (from a business perspective) with D7. Right now, and for about at least 2 years from now, you can not undertake any real serious project with Drupal 8. This is because it will take that long for D8 to mature to the point of being marginally useful (A critical quantity of key contrib module will have to catch up with the maturity of the D8 core for this to happen).

So if it seems that there is no or not much buzz around the upcoming stable release of D8 among Naija Drupal practitioners, just know that it has less to do with lack of interest and more on practicality (ie D8 has no business value locally for now). But be assured the buzz is going on among the local Drupal community, through series of local meetups (http://drupalnigeria.org) and online elsewhere, outside of nairaland (https://www./drupal.ng, http://icelark.com/blogs/a-journey-towards-drupal-8-development-mastery-the-road-map, http://2015.drupalnigeria.org).

So keep the faith, the buzz will build up rapidly, VERY SOON.

Well said! But i need an advice tho. migrating from drupal 7 to 8 as i have heard will not be easy due to the drastic change in its core, like the incorporation of symfony and all. i mean you cant just copy and paste, this time you have to practical rebuild your site from scratch.
My question is this, for someone who is starting a new project (time is not an issue), would you suggest he builds it on drupal 7 now that 8 is so close to Release Candidate phase?
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 11:37pm On Sep 28, 2015
chipzidar:
dont really knw about drupal.. can u gimme link to a website using drupal?
https://www.whitehouse.gov
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by togbonna: 12:26am On Oct 01, 2015
anitchec:


Well said! But i need an advice tho. migrating from drupal 7 to 8 as i have heard will not be easy due to the drastic change in its core, like the incorporation of symfony and all. i mean you cant just copy and paste, this time you have to practical rebuild your site from scratch.
My question is this, for someone who is starting a new project (time is not an issue), would you suggest he builds it on drupal 7 now that 8 is so close to Release Candidate phase?

The answer is an absolute YES: He should start with Drupal 7. The reason is simple, Drupal 7 is still the most stable version, and it will remain so for a few more years. To understand why this is so you have to understand that every Drupal site can be divided into two parts from the code perspective: the Drupal core (equivalent to the Drupal 8 which now close to a Release Candidate phase) and what is called in the Drupal circle Contrib modules (The plugins that extends the basic functionality that the core provides. https://www.drupal.org/project/project_module). The contrib modules are open sourced codes put up by savvy Drupal developers independent from the Drupal core.

A lot of the power of Drupal is derived from the Contrib modules space. So even though the Drupal 8 core is close to a stable release, most of the Contrib modules are not. It will take some time before the Contrib modules catch up, which will takes months to years, depending on which group of Contrib modules you are interested in.

So unless the project is the simplest website possible that do not require anything more than the Drupal core can provide AND you have no intention of adding new functionality anytime soon, you should start with Drupal 7. However you can keep monitoring the Drupal 8 Contrib space for the modules that you are interested in for when they are mature enough to port you project to Drupal 8 safely.

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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by togbonna: 12:35am On Oct 01, 2015
anitchec:


... i have heard will not be easy due to the drastic change in its core, like the incorporation of symfony and all. i mean you cant just copy and paste, this time you have to practical rebuild your site from scratch?...

This is not true. Even though there has been drastic changes to core, one of the main reason the Drupal 8 core has not been released months ago is b/c there need to be in place the capability to easily upgrade your codes from earlier version to the current version (according to the goal statement a Drupal 6 to 8 upgrade would be possible).

So in its full maturity your should be able to easily port your Drupal 7 project to Drupal 8.
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by togbonna: 12:50am On Oct 01, 2015
chipzidar:
dont really knw about drupal.. can u gimme link to a website using drupal?

For examples of Nigerian websites build with Drupal check out this page: http://icelark.com/projects (built by my own company: Icelark Projects www.icelark.com).

Other nigeria sites includes: http://www.mtnonline.com/, www.edusko.com, www.MeNowNews.com, etc.

Foreign websites built with Drupal: www.whitehouse.gov, https://www.usa.gov/, South African government (http://www.gcis.gov.za), French government (http://www.gouvernement.fr), New York state government (http://www.nysenate.gov), Australian government (http://www.australia.gov.au), https://www.grammy.com, http://www.wwe.com, https://blog.twitter.com, etc.

For the reasons why Drupal is the choice for big and serious website projects globally you may want to read this: http://www.govtech.com/policy-management/Why-Big-Sites-Run-Drupal.html.

Still want more?

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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by chipzidar(f): 1:52am On Oct 01, 2015
togbonna:


For examples of Nigerian websites build with Drupal check out this page: http://icelark.com/projects (built by my own company: Icelark Projects www.icelark.com).

Other nigeria sites includes: http://www.mtnonline.com/, www.edusko.com, www.MeNowNews.com, etc.

Foreign websites built with Drupal: www.whitehouse.gov, https://www.usa.gov/, South African government (http://www.gcis.gov.za), French government (http://www.gouvernement.fr), New York state government (http://www.nysenate.gov), Australian government (http://www.australia.gov.au), https://www.grammy.com, http://www.wwe.com, https://blog.twitter.com, etc.

For the reasons why Drupal is the choice for big and serious website projects globally you may want to read this: http://www.govtech.com/policy-management/Why-Big-Sites-Run-Drupal.html.

Still want more?

thanks grin
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 9:32am On Oct 01, 2015
togbonna:


The answer is an absolute YES: He should start with Drupal 7. The reason is simple, Drupal 7 is still the most stable version, and it will remain so for a few more years. To understand why this is so you have to understand that every Drupal site can be divided into two parts from the code perspective: the Drupal core (equivalent to the Drupal 8 which now close to a Release Candidate phase) and what is called in the Drupal circle Contrib modules (The plugins that extends the basic functionality that the core provides. https://www.drupal.org/project/project_module). The contrib modules are open sourced codes put up by savvy Drupal developers independent from the Drupal core.

A lot of the power of Drupal is derived from the Contrib modules space. So even though the Drupal 8 core is close to a stable release, most of the Contrib modules are not. It will take some time before the Contrib modules catch up, which will takes months to years, depending on which group of Contrib modules you are interested in.

So unless the project is the simplest website possible that do not require anything more than the Drupal core can provide AND you have no intention of adding new functionality anytime soon, you should start with Drupal 7. However you can keep monitoring the Drupal 8 Contrib space for the modules that you are interested in for when they are mature enough to port you project to Drupal 8 safely.

Their is this idea i have been working on for years, honestly the reason i havent finished yet is because am trapped in the drupal7 or 8 dilemma. i monitor the third party modules i'll need just like i monitor D8 and they seem to be on schedule with a DR promising to have an RC the minute D8 enters RC phase, the modules are Flag, Token, Backup and Migrate, Google Analytics, Pathauto, Metatag, CAPTCHA, panels(already has a RC), XML sitemap, Rules(already has a RC) and zurb foundation framework for theming, everything else i can squeeze out of D8 core (and no its not a blog). regardless i have set dec 31st as a deadline for it to go live. from your post so far you sound like your good at what ever it is you do and in due time i will be needing an expert review of my work to make sure am not breaking any Best Practices...lol. do you have a Group or a forum or any platform where you connect with your audience except Nairaland?
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 7:07pm On Oct 01, 2015
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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 8:02pm On Oct 01, 2015
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Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by togbonna: 5:07am On Oct 03, 2015
anitchec:


... in due time i will be needing an expert review of my work to make sure am not breaking any Best Practices...lol. do you have a Group or a forum or any platform where you connect with your audience except Nairaland?

Sure. There's a very active group (Drupal Nigeria) that is active both online and offline. This is a group of both knowledgeable and upcoming Drupal practitioners in Nigeria. Every one is welcomed. On Facebook, www./drupal.ng, group website, www.drupalnigeria.org, upcoming group event website: http://2015.drupalnigeria.org.

The group meets offline at Shoprite, Ikeja at least once a month (last Saturday of every month).

You can connect up with me on FB (https://www.facebook.com/tony.ogbonna) or shoot me an email at tony@icelark.com and I'll help you out on any Drupal related issues as much as I can.
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 6:53am On Oct 03, 2015
togbonna:


Sure. There's a very active group (Drupal Nigeria) that is active both online and offline. This is a group of both knowledgeable and upcoming Drupal practitioners in Nigeria. Every one is welcomed. On Facebook, www./drupal.ng, group website, www.drupalnigeria.org, upcoming group event website: http://2015.drupalnigeria.org.

The group meets offline at Shoprite, Ikeja at least once a month (last Saturday of every month).

You can connect up with me on FB (https://www.facebook.com/tony.ogbonna) or shoot me an email at tony@icelark.com and I'll help you out on any Drupal related issues as much as I can.

Thanks a lot
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 7:33am On Oct 03, 2015
Drupal 8 RC rumored to be released on 7th, how true is that?
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by togbonna: 11:02am On Oct 04, 2015
anitchec:
Drupal 8 RC rumored to be released on 7th, how true is that?

For the most accurate prediction: https://drupalreleasedate.com
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 12:18pm On Oct 04, 2015
togbonna:


For the most accurate prediction: https://drupalreleasedate.com

He is not really accurate. i say this because on the 1st of October it predicted it will be released on the 3rd, it stayed that way till 4th, plus he does not respect the Drupal release calendar which is the 1st and 3rd Wednesdays of every month. his predictions can land it on any day of any week.
Re: Who Else Is Waiting For Drupal 8? by anitchec(m): 11:32pm On Oct 07, 2015
Drupal Release Candidate finally out!!!

https://www.drupal.org/drupal-8.0.0-rc1

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