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Omniscience And Freewill by Humblebloke(m): 9:24am On Oct 14, 2015
The monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) tell us that God is omniscient - he knows everything. They also tell us that we human beings have free will - we make our own decisions and chart our own lives.

That means, believers say, that we choose whether to be good or bad, whether we obey God's laws and go to heaven or we sin and spend eternity in hell.

Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? But there's a problem: you can have either God's omniscience or human free will, but you can't have both.

The explanation is simple.

in every situation in life.Given enough information,we can predict what will happen next, in nature and in people. We look at dark clouds and know it will rain soon. If the sun comes out it's probably going to get warm It's the same for human beings. If we know them well enough, we can predict
what they will do in most situations


Our predictions are sometimes wrong, but only because our knowledge is limited. We think we know someone's. personality, but we only know what they show us, not the emotions they keep hidden; And so on.

If we did know everything, we would be able to predict the future.......


Prediction depends on omniscience - total knowledge. If you know everything, you can predict everything - the exact moment a dropped ball will hit the ground, the precise effect an espresso will have on busy executive's ability to think, whether a disaffected youth will put on a suicide belt and blow up a crowded market. Of course we do not have total knowledge - and we never will have it.


But, believers tell us, God knows;
God knows everything. He know


The fact that God knows everything means that human beings have no free will. In our minds we
are free - but the freedom is illusory. We think we
are free because we do not see or understand all the influences on our personalities and lives - our
parents' attitudes towards us, the viruses lurking in
the air,And so on.

But for God, we have no free will. He knows already
every influence, past, present and future on our
lives. He knows how we behave - and will behave -
in every situation. He knows whether we will
worship or abandon him. It makes no difference
what we do, whether we pray and worship or sin and blaspheme; God knows, even before we are
born whether we will enter Heaven or Hell after we
die. Our free will is an illusion; our lives are forever
fixed in the amber of God's mind.

Some believers accept this principle, known as
predestination. They accept that God knows who will
be saved and who will not and nothing anybody can
do will change that situation. Within that group,
some believe that they have been saved, which
means that it doesn't matter how badly they behave
because God has reserved a place for them in
heaven. You can work out for yourself the fault in
their logic...


It's not only humans who have no free will neither does God. Because he knows
everything, he knows his own being and future.
He cannot choose to act because he knows
already what his choices and actions are. God
is trapped in eternity in his own omniscience...



If God exists, we can only come to one of two
conclusions:

-If God knows everything, we have no free will -
and he lies when he tells us that we have it

- If we have free will, God does not know everything - he is not God



The second conclusion is unacceptable to
monotheists, who believe that God is all-powerful
and all-knowing. (A God who is not omniscient is
possible for Deists.) The logic of their own position
means that Christians (and Jews and Muslims) have
to accept that we have no free will; it doesn't matter
what Church leaders tell you or whether you live
your life as a sinner or saint, God knows already
whether you are going to Heaven or Hell.

But we do not have to be pushed into either of these conclusions. There is a third possibility: that
God does not exist at all.

So, our final choice is
between an omniscient God that makes a mockery
of the idea of free will, a God that does not know
everything (and that therefore may not be all-
powerful), and no God at all. Whichever we choose,
we cannot avoid the conclusion that we can have
either free will or an omniscient God, but we cannot
have both.


Muslims, christians and (jews) in the house...... Perhaps you lots have other definitions for this..... Most of you are possessed by the holy spiritgrin....


Can we have both(freewill and an omniscent god)

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