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Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by madjnr: 3:46pm On Nov 25, 2015
1- Jesus is not all knowing:
Mark 24: 32-36:
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour
knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only
God is all-knowing, Jesus fails this main qualification. This alone is enough to prove that Jesus is not God. Also note the verse says ONLY the Father meaning nobody else, including the divine Jesus.
2- Jesus never said I am God.
Is this a coincidence? I think not. If you make a claim on someone, then you would expect that someone to back your claim up. If I claim somebody is a king, you would expect that king to say he is a king, at least once. In the OT God says he is God several times, why not once with Jesus in the NT? Did God change his ways? I think not, since the OT says God does not change. Here are the passages from the OT where God says he is God:
Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am]
God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins
Gen 46:3 And he said, I [am] God, the
God of thy father: fear not to go down into
Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:
Exd 16:12 I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I [ am ] the LORD your God .
Exd 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God , which have brought thee out of the land of
Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I [am]
God: I will be exalted among the heathen,
I will be exalted in the earth.
Psa 50:7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I [am ] God , [even] thy God.
Psa 81:10 I [ am ] the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of
Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I [ am ] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God :
I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I , the LORD, which call [thee] by thy name, [am] the God of Israel.
Isa 45:5 I [am ] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old : for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God , and [there is] none like me,
Jer 32:27 Behold, I [am] the LORD, the
God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.
Eze 20:19 I [am] the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;
Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.
Eze 23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye shall bear the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I [ am ] the Lord GOD .
So as we can see, God is not shy to say I am God. SO if Jesus is God, then how come he never said it once like the God of the OT? This is not a coincidence.
3- Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to trust the son of man :
The New Testament makes it very clear that Jesus is the son of man:
Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.
Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the
Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Luk 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men.
Luk 9:22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
Jhn 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the
Son of man.
The Old Testament tells us not to put our trust in the son of man:
Psalms 146:
1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul.
2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any
being.
3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help .
So note, Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to put our trust in the son of man; therefore we cannot place our trust in Jesus so he cannot be God. The OT is basically saying that you shouldn’t put your trust in men as you do with God, so hence we cannot put our trust in Jesus in the same way we do with God since Jesus is just a man, and he cannot really save us. So hence Jesus cannot be God.
1- Jesus is the son of man
2- The OT tells us not to put our trust in the son of man
3- We cannot put our trust in Jesus as we do with God
4- Jesus is not God
The OT also tells us that there is no help in the son of man, therefore this means Jesus cannot help anybody, therefore he is not God since God can help all. So we cannot place our trust in Jesus, nor can he help us, therefore he cannot be God according to the OT.
4- Jesus was GIVEN power and authority, he did not own it.
As we all know, God is all-powerful and is independent, he needs no help from anybody. However so this is not the case with Jesus, unlike God, Jesus needs help from God, unlike God, Jesus does not own any power or any authority, rather it is given to him from God.
Jhn 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
John 17:6-8: 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and
thou gavest them me ; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that ALL THINGS whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee . 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me ; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me
So as we can see, Jesus GIVEN everything he had! This all included miracle, doctrine etc. Basically Jesus did not do anything of his own, he never performed a miracle by his own power, he was given the miracle. He never taught anything of his own, rather he was taught by God and spoke what God told him to speak.
Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said,
My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me
Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment , what I should say , and what I should speak .
Jhn 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth
not my sayings : and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
So everything Jesus had was from God, from the Gospel to his miracles. God needs no one to give him power, God needs no one to tell him what to do,
therefore Jesus is not God.
I challenge any Christian to bring me one single miracle Jesus performed on his own, just one. The Christian will never be able to meet this challenge.
Will you worship Jesus, or the one Jesus worshiped?
One glaring problem the Christians have is that Jesus prayed, and had a God himself. This logically lets us conclude that Jesus cannot be God. The logical thing to do is worship and pray to the one Jesus prayed to. If Jesus told you that he had a God, would you honestly take Jesus as God? The logical answer is no, but Christians throw all logic out when it comes to their Bible.
Matthew 26:36-44
36. Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray."
37. He took Peter and the two sons of
Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled.
38. Then he said to them, "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me."
39. Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will. "
40. Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Could you men not keep watch with me for one hour?" he asked Peter.
41. "Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
42. He went away a second time and prayed, "My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done."
43. When he came back, he again found them sleeping, because their eyes were heavy.
44. So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, SAYING THE SAME THING.
So are you going worship the one Jesus prayed to? Or are you going to worship Jesus? Logically you worship the one Jesus prayed to.
Secondly just say you were alive at Jesus’ time and you were with him, and you knew he prayed to God and so on, would you honestly believe he is God? Off course not! It gets worse as Jesus himself claims he has a God:
John 20:16-18 :
16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the LORD, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
Now tell me, if a man came to you and told you he has a God, would you honestly believe that man is God? No, you would not. Logic tells you if a man has a God then that man is not God, however Christians through logic at the window it seems, Christians want to worship Jesus, not the one Jesus worshiped. Christians want Jesus to be their God; they do not want Jesus’ God to be their God. What a shame.
So Jesus prays and has a God, how un-Godly is that?
9- God comes out of a woman? God is a helpless baby?
The very fact that Jesus was given birth, and came out as little helpless small baby is enough to refute the claim that Jesus is God. It is utter blasphemy to claim that God came out of a women like all people, it is utter blasphemy to claim God came out crying and screaming and being helpless and weak. Such nonsense is insulting to God; this itself is enough to prove Jesus is not God. How can you claim that God came out of a woman? Are you mad? Are you insane? How can you insult God in such a manner, you Christians should be ashamed of yourselves for ascribing such rubbish to God.


10- The God of the Bible comes from incest!
It may come as a shocker to most, but the Bible claims that Jesus comes from incest. Since Christians claim Jesus is God this means God came from incest, all you have to do is go look at the family line of Jesus and see for yourself. What makes this more sad is that Christians do not even know this information, they claim that you are a liar if you bring it up, or that you are disgusting etc.
Here is the proof for all to see:
Genesis 38:
1 And it came to pass at that time, that
Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah. 2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. 3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name
Er. 4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him. 6 And
Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er,
Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8
And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law , Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house.
12 And in process of time the daughter of
Shuah Judah's wife died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep. 14 And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to
Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife. 15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. 16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me?
17 And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? 18
And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. 19
And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20 And
Judah sent the kid by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the woman's hand: but he found her not. 21 Then he asked the men of that place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side? And they said, There was no harlot in this place. 22 And he returned to Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said, that there was no harlot in this place. 23 And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her.
24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said,
Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 25
When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and bracelets, and staff.
26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more.
27 And it came to pass in the time of her
travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first. 29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called
Pharez. 30 And afterward came out his
brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah.
The names of the two kids who resulted out of this sexual encounter between Judah and Tamar were Pharez and Zarah.
Here is Jesus’ lineage according to Matthew 1:
1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar ; and
Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat
Aram; 4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and
Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of
Urias; 7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and
Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9
And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and
Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat
Josias; 11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to Babylon,
Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13 And Zorobabel begat
Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and
Eliakim begat Azor; 14 And Azor begat
Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and
Achim begat Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat
Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and
Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
So as you can see, Jesus’ family line comes down from this sick act of incest between father and daughter in law, this means the God of the Christians comes from incest! Such blasphemy is disgusting and utterly degrading to the true God and Christians should be ashamed of themselves.
So as we clearly saw, Jesus cannot be God, if a Christian wants to continue believing Jesus is God, it is their own loss.

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Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by HirstMOG(m): 3:50pm On Nov 25, 2015
If I should read through everything, I go make heaven
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Nobody: 3:54pm On Nov 25, 2015
Na so. Jesus is a prophet sent by God himself. Buh xtians are just something else. They tend to praise Jesus for things happening to them rather than almighty God who did it to the.
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by madjnr: 3:55pm On Nov 25, 2015
HirstMOG:
If I should read through everything, I go make heaven
lol maybe
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by jaymejate: 4:14pm On Nov 25, 2015
Ok then! Ive you gone through John 1:1-5 & 14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

What this passage is saying is that Jesus is the word of God. And thank God you knew that God is the Almighty and no one can question his doing.
Jeremiah 32 vs 27... I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me? If God can say this then he can do anything. So also God himself turned his Word into Human to rep him on earth, seriously u can't expect God to come down himself. And you should know that whatever comes out of you, it's you as well. So Jesus came out of God which means, God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

Lemme refer you to a movie, a very popular one. The Forbidding Kingdom. In the movie, you will see that Jet li during a fight, a bit of his hair was cut and it turned to another man fighting that other man. Throughout the movie, the hair represented the real body and after achieving what they wanted, he returned. That's just it. I think i've answered you very well.

Please read the Bible with Holy Spirit, cos it is not a Story book.

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Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Geestarry(f): 4:28pm On Nov 25, 2015
OP are you a Christian?
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by ozy4christ(f): 4:43pm On Nov 25, 2015
Nw this one wil soon run 2 open church claiming God has spoken 2 him.BEWARE of end time teachings,op am sure u never read ur bible with holyspirit but just as a book..remembr we wil be judge according 2 words dat proceeds out of our mouth.
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Nobody: 4:59pm On Nov 25, 2015
serial killer god. lol
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by malvisguy212: 5:02pm On Nov 25, 2015
Jesus claimed to have many of the attributes that God alone possesses. Jesus claimed to have sent the prophets:
"Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, ( Matthew 23:34)
However, the Old Testament indicates that God sent the prophets. Therefore, Jesus was claiming the authority that was previously reserved only for God.
Jesus claimed that His origins are from heaven, whereas men are from the world:
"And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven, even the Son of Man. ( John 3:13)
Jesus claimed that His origins are from heaven, whereas men are from the world: "And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven, even the Son of Man. ( John 3:13)
And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. ( John 8:23)
Not only did Jesus claim to come from heaven, but He said that it was "my kingdom" Isn't heaven God's kingdom?
that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. ( Luke 22:30)
Jesus claimed to have existed before He was born in Bethlehem:
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.( John 8:58-59)
The claim included the term "I am" - a reference God made of Himself when talking to Moses.17 The Jews immediately recognized that Jesus was claiming to be God and attempted to stone Him.
Jesus also claimed to have existed "before the world began":
"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." ( John 17:5)
This statement is an obvious claim to deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist before the creation of the universe, but He claimed to share the glory of God!
Jesus also claimed that He had "all authority... in heaven and on earth" and that everything of God was His.
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth." (Matthew 28:18)
Jesus claimed to be the supreme judge who will exercise all judgment.
However, there are at least 50 verses in the Bible that claim that Jehovah God will judge the earth (see Who Will Judge Mankind?). Jesus claimed to be the one to separate the "sheep from the goats". However, the book of Ezekiel says that Jehovah God will do this.
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by malvisguy212: 5:05pm On Nov 25, 2015
JESUS AcCEPT THE TITLE GOD.
Not only did Jesus claim the attributes of God, but He even accepted the title
"God." Thomas, the ever-skeptical
disciple, was unconvinced that Jesus had risen from the dead and wanted to see direct proof. However, when the Lord Jesus appeared to him, his only reaction was "My Lord and my God!"
Thomas answered and said to Him, "My
Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him,
"Because you have seen Me, have you
believed? Blessed are they who did not
see, and yet believed." ( John 20:28-29)

What was Jesus' reaction to the title of
God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling
Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised
Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was Lord and God. If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by malvisguy212: 5:08pm On Nov 25, 2015
JESUS CLAIMED TO BE GOD
Some skeptics say that Jesus and God
were "one in purpose." However, this is a rather weak claim. Every disciple of Jesus Christ has the goal of being "one in purpose" with God the Father. Even so, Jesus never used the word "purpose" in His claims of oneness with God.

"I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus
answered them, "I showed you many
good works from the Father; for which of
them are you stoning Me?" The Jews
answered Him, "For a good work we do
not stone You, but for blasphemy; and
because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." ( John 10:30-33)

Obviously, the Jews did not think that
this claim of being one with the Father
referred to purpose. They knew that He
was claiming equality with God, which is
why they tried to stone Him.In addition,
Jesus said outright that He was Lord
and claimed to be the first and the last, an obvious trait reserved for God alone.
Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Nobody: 5:25pm On Nov 25, 2015
Now that Jesus isn't god, where do I get free WiFi? I wanna download something.

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Re: Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by achinaboy(m): 6:20pm On Nov 25, 2015
i wonder why christians need someone to tell them about jesus, no be by force, if you wan follow jesus, fine, if not, try mohamed, hindu, juju, or whatever,and leave people alone with what they biliv in

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