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2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 4:25pm On Dec 06, 2015
I need the help of house members in this matter.
I have a year 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 i ES, 4 cylinders.
In September, the Crank Pulley came off.

Mechanic found the pulley was cracked and the pin was bent.
Another pulley + pin was installed.
Problem happened again about 3 weeks later. Another pulley installed.

About 3 weeks ago, it happened again for the 3rd time and we decided to investigate the cause.
Mechanic said the crankshaft was cracked and suggested buying another engine.
He also said the crack could be filled by a welder.
Filling was done with the assurance we won't have any more problem as it was done well.

Well, just driving the car around town for shopping and errands only, the pulley came off again barely a month after.
Some say replacing the crankshaft will bring more problems.
The car has mileage of a little over 200, 000 and drives good.

Now my questions:
(1) What is the cause of this problem?

(2) Should I replace the crankshaft or buy 1/2 engine?

(3) What other Honda vehicles have crankshafts and engines that are compatible with my Honda Shuttle?
This is in case I don't find the exact model for my car in the market.

(4) Is it true that replacing the crankshaft will cause more problems?

(5) Any idea how much the crankshaft and 1/2 engine sell in the market.

I will be sure to read every opinion. And thanks for reading this.

P/S: Please, by "pulley", I mean the meta disc that locks the crankshaft in place before the tire is installed.
That was what the mechanic called it, but I found out is also called the "Harmonic Balancer."
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by GAZZUZZ(m): 5:22pm On Dec 06, 2015
Pics of the problem please. What material is the pulley made of?
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 7:09pm On Dec 06, 2015
GAZZUZZ:
Pics of the problem please. What material is the pulley made of?

I do not have any pics and I am currently away from the car.
I get the sense that by pulley, you are referring to the drive belt that turns the power steering and fan around.
The mechanic called it pulley but I think he was referring to the metallic disc (I found out it is also called "harmonic balancer"wink that locks the crankshaft in place before installing the tire.

Hope this helps and thanks for your time.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by baaliyah(m): 8:44pm On Dec 06, 2015
Pls, buy another engine, don't buy pulley and pin again. I have a 98 civic, a wonderful car. I changed the pulley more than ten times, two crank shafts and lot of stress. I had to change the engine last month. The money I had spent changing those stuffs couple with stress could buy 3 engines.

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Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 10:59pm On Dec 06, 2015
baaliyah:
Pls, buy another engine, don't buy pulley and pin again. I have a 98 civic, a wonderful car. I changed the pulley more than ten times, two crank shafts and lot of stress. I had to change the engine last month. The money I had spent changing those stuffs couple with stress could buy 3 engines.

Thanks a lot for your input.
Another engine sounds convincing given your experience.
Do you have any idea about cost and Honda models that are also compatible?
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nobody: 1:10am On Dec 07, 2015
To me based strictly what was written leads me to believe that you have an unbalanced crankshaft. Did the mechanic consider a bad harmonic balance? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_balancer

I'm certain that a properly sourced crankshaft will sort the issue but you have to balance the economics of that versus getting a new engine in the Nigerian sphere.

Good luck.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by baaliyah(m): 4:52am On Dec 07, 2015
@ op, I don't have idea of the price. contact luvinhubby here or gazzuzz. Good luck.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 10:17am On Dec 07, 2015
EgunMogaji:
To me based strictly what was written leads me to believe that you have an unbalanced crankshaft. Did the mechanic consider a bad harmonic balance? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_balancer

I'm certain that a properly sourced crankshaft will sort the issue but you have to balance the economics of that versus getting a new engine in the Nigerian sphere.

Good luck.

The harmonic balancer is what we have been replacing.
Maybe due to the imbalance in forces, the c/shaft got cracked.
I agree with you that a proper c/shaft installed by a good mechanic should solve the problem.
Still chewing on my options...
Thanks
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by ruby360: 6:53pm On Dec 07, 2015
Nyceguy92:


The harmonic balancer is what we have been replacing.
Maybe due to the imbalance in forces, the c/shaft got cracked.
I agree with you that a proper c/shaft installed by a good mechanic should solve the problem.
Still chewing on my options...
Thanks

If you want to end your problem, buy a clean ENGINE that has never been opened. If you are the type that enjoys visiting mechanic you can as well
buy a c/shaft.(Na your money mechanic go dey chop grin)
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 4:06am On Dec 08, 2015
ruby360:


If you want to end your problem, buy a clean ENGINE that has never been opened. If you are the type that enjoys visiting mechanic you can as well
buy a c/shaft.(Na your money mechanic go dey chop grin)

Majority opinion seems to favour replacing the engine.
Any idea of the cost and Honda models that have engines that can fit?
Thanks.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by GAZZUZZ(m): 11:23am On Dec 08, 2015
You want to replace a complete engine cause of harmonic balancer?

If you are in lagos bring the vehicle, I'll replace the crankshaft if necessary and balancer and give you a 10,000km guarantee on the job.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Chaskodee: 11:39am On Dec 08, 2015
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Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Specialist900(m): 12:26pm On Dec 08, 2015
GAZZUZZ:
You want to replace a complete engine cause of harmonic balancer?

If you are in lagos bring the vehicle, I'll replace the crankshaft if necessary and balancer and give you a 10,000km guarantee on the job.

Oga has spoken
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by ruby360: 4:27pm On Dec 08, 2015
Nyceguy92:


Majority opinion seems to favour replacing the engine.
Any idea of the cost and Honda models that have engines that can fit?
Thanks.
Budget 140K
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 1:46am On Dec 09, 2015
[quote author=GAZZUZZ post=40801874]

Unfortunately I am not in any of these cities.
Still meditating on options.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 1:49am On Dec 09, 2015
ruby360:

Budget 140K

Wow!
That's lot of money.
Or are you referring to a brand new OEM engine?
Thanks
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 1:50am On Dec 09, 2015
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Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:44pm On Dec 10, 2015
Nyceguy92:


Wow!
That's lot of money.
Or are you referring to a brand new OEM engine?
Thanks

Laughs.

I doubt your engine is more than 70k.
Re: 2000 Honda Shuttle 2.3 I Es: Replace Crankshaft Or Buy Engine? by Nyceguy92: 4:37am On Dec 11, 2015
[quote author=GAZZUZZ post=40884721]

My mechanic was looking at a figure of 75K.

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