OLAADEGBU:
Do Christians sin? Are Christians sinless? What does the Bible say about Christians and sin?

Elosky20:


everybody is a sinner
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Romans 3:23 for all have
sinned and fall short of
the glory of God,

OLAADEGBU:


That verse says all have sinned it does not say all are sinners, does it?

Elosky20:


1 John 1:7-9 But if we are living in the light, as God is in the light, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from all sin. If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness.
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sinner: someone who has done something wrong according to religious or moral law.
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certainly sin is inevitable, therefore we all are sinners

OLAADEGBU:


If so how then do you reconcile these verses?

"He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil" (1 John 3:8 ).

Elosky20:


who is the ruler of the world.

OLAADEGBU:


That depends on who you serve.

Elosky20:


the answer is too long. just read it frm here-
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011643
the sin and punishment of adam, eve and cain is still with us therefore we are sinner. just read the link.

OLAADEGBU:


You are entitled to your religious belief.

promisechuks:


No!
What @elosky20 said is the REAL. That's why I tell people that we are not sinner because we commit sin but because of what adam did.

That's why Jesus needed to come to set us free from the nature of sinful adam.

So whosoever that believes in christ's finished work will be made a new creature by faith and your old nature will be passed away and everything will be made new.

missKiffy:


In short, they are the greatest sinners

OLAADEGBU:


Then you agree with Elosky20 that you are still a sinner, no?

promisechuks:


See the main truth; we are all sinners by law(flesh; so far you are a human being) even after accepting christ, not just because we commit sin but because of our imperfection, but we are made HOLY, PERFECT and RIGHTEOUS AS GOD IS, by the grace(faith) of God through our faith(ONLY BELIEVING) we have in christ.

But, inspite of our imperfection and sin, it is not imputted on us because we are under grace. In fact, the sole purpose of grace is to justify our imperfections. That's why in romans 4/5, paul said; when there is no law sin is not imputted on a man.

You see the reason why grace is a GIFT? But, it's so unfortunate that so many pharisee-christians try their possible best to earn what has been freely given(eternal life). They are ignorant of God's righteousness, going about establishing THEIR OWN righteousness, making eternal life look like reward

Note; we are not righteous because we live rightly, though right living is one of it's fruits, but because we believe in christ who was offered as a ransom for our redemption which is of faith

The problem why I see some christians the way I see the pharisee is that they always deny the truth of their imperfection in flesh, saying they are living rightly always, which we all know is lies from the pit of hell because we, as the humans we are, lack the ability to always stay away from wrong and cling to the right thing always. But thanks for grace!

Please note; holyspirit does not make your flesh perfect, because as paul said; there is no good in our flesh. But the holyspirit makes you perfect, holy and righteous before God, NOT BY FLESH, but by grace and faith, which atimes reciprocally affect the way we live with people around us.

Elosky20:

who is the ruler of the world.

Elosky20:

who is the ruler of the world.

OLAADEGBU:
Do Christians sin? Are Christians sinless? What does the Bible say about Christians and sin?

OLAADEGBU:
Do Christians sin? Are Christians sinless? What does the Bible say about Christians and sin?

Muafrika2:


Op, this is a good question

Muafrika2:


God is holy. And it's impossible, in this world to be perfect. That is why we crucify our flesh daily. That means submission to the Spirit of God, which continually makes way for us in our day to day lives. The coming age is going to be sinless though, it will be a dispensation of righteousness - because the devil will be bound during its time.

Muafrika2:


The world is under the sway of the wicked one. This is not just a saying. It's a fact. It's in reference to the principalities, rulers and powers of the heavenly realm. The same power we wrestle against continually in our lives. Be it in our mind, environment, etc. They are the angels of sin, in our past ages and in this age.

Muafrika2:


When Abraham was called out and given the lands of the Amorites, he had to live among them for a long time as he grew from an individual to a nation that would later conquer the Amorites. It is the same for the principalities of this world. We are a Kingdom growing right in the presence of the Principalities that we shall conquer and take over. That should help you understand why Christians are the most hated group on the face of the earth. Our very presence is their destruction and disinheritance. It's for that reason that Christ said;


Mathew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.



I've attempted to answer that.

OLAADEGBU:


When Jesus said that we should be perfect as our heavenly Father what did He mean?

Will you then say that satan is the ruler of this world?

What did God mean when He told Abram to walk before Him and to be perfect?

Goshen360:


Being a sinner is by nature. Christians are carrying new nature by the resurrected Christ. We are dead to sin nature through the body of Christ and alive to the resurrected Christ. We're not a sinner because we sin, we're sinners because of the Adamic sin nature which was reversed in Christ.

Muafrika2:


I believe, He meant our becoming one with God. You see even He did not like to be called good while here on earth. But the fact that He/us and God are inseparable makes us able to boast in God's characters. Some of those Characters is that He is perfect in love, joy, peace, patience, holiness, all things that we being in flesh grow into gradually. But one day, when we will not be in flesh, we'll be perfected.

Muafrika2:


Yes. But of course God sits above and rules over all including his principalities.

Muafrika2:


That was a tall order in those days. But there seems to have bren greater understanding of spiritual things than now. He expected Abraham to walk in/be directed by His spirit. The presense of His Spirit justifies us enough for us to stand righteous before Him.

OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that we cannot be 'perfected' here on earth?

Has Christ's death and resurrection not set us free from satan's grip? If so, how is he still our ruler?

Are you saying that what God expects from us is less than what God expected from Abram?