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FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by AnnaKareninaFan: 1:52am On Mar 11, 2016
The Awujale and Paramount Ruler of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona has replied the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Aremu Gbadebo, over his recent ranking of Yoruba Obas. Recall Alake, in the ranking of the five top Obas, placed the Ooni of Ife as the first, followed by the Alaafin of Oyo, the Oba of Benin, with the Alake coming fourth and the Awujale fifth. Breaking his silence on the ranking, the Awujale spoke in Lagos at the Inaugural Lecture of the Professorial Chair in Governance he endowed at the Olabisi Onabanjo University, Ago Iwoye. Dismissing the ranking as self-serving, false and misrepresentation of facts, Awujale said the Alake was not higher than him in order of ranking, adding that at best, he was a junior traditional ruler in Yorubaland.


In Awujale's words, “My advice to Alake, being a young and inexperienced traditional ruler, is that he should contact Chief Olusegun Obasanjo for proper education so as to save himself and his people from further embarrassment. Not long ago, after the installation of Oba Alaiyeluwa Adeyeye Ogunwusi as the Ooni of Ife, he undertook steps to foster unity and cooperation among leading Yoruba Obas and for which I personally commend him.


“First, he joined the Alaafin at his 77th birthday celebration at Oyo. Thereafter, he visited me at Ijebu-Ode on Friday, January 29, 2016, followed by another visit to Abeokuta on Sunday, February 7, 2016, where he met Oba Adedotun Aremu Gbadebo in his palace at Ake, Abeokuta, with the exception of the Agura of Gbagura, Abeokuta, who was not around then. The Alake, while receiving the Ooni at his palace, said the Yoruba Obas (the Big Five so to say) had been categorised with the Ooni in the first position, followed by Alaafin, the Oba of Benin, with Alake coming fourth and the Awujale as the fifth in that order.


“He also went further to quote wrongly from a 1903 Gazette to support all the fallacies in his statement. When I learned of the statement, I made several calls to Alake until I eventually succeeded in finding out from him if those statements were actually made by him, which of course he vehemently denied. In a recent discussion between the Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, and I, we also touched on the same issue and the Oba of Lagos told me that he too had asked Alake the same question, which he had again denied vehemently. Regrettably, however, when the said statement a few days later was continuously credited to Alake on the pages of newspapers, I expected him to deny it or issue a rebuttal, but he did not do so. Therefore, I consider it necessary to debunk the aforementioned falsehood and misrepresentation of facts from Ake Palace so as to put the records straight.


“First, I would like to make it abundantly clear that the 1903 Gazette referred to by Alake was a Newspaper publication that he, in his self-serving role, is now presenting as an official Government Gazette. The first question to Alake is: Who categorised the Yoruba Obas and when? I challenge him to produce the document of the said categorisation. It is a known fact that Alake was a junior traditional ruler under the Alaafin at Orile Egba before he fled to Ibadan for refuge as a result of the war then ravaging Yoruba land.


“Following the defeat of Owu by the Ijebu Army in 1826, the Owus became refugees all over Yorubaland. Some of the Ijebu troops that fought the war proceeded to Ibadan where they met Alake and sacked him, consequently forcing him to seek refuge at Ake in Abeokuta in 1830
where, of course, he met Osile, Olowu and Agura already settled at Oke-Ona, Owu and Gbagura sections of Abeokuta township respectively.


“Even then, the Olubara, of Oyo origin had always argued that all the aforementioned four rulers met him in Abeokuta and, therefore, claimed to be their landlord. Alake’s real title “To ever refer to Alake as Alake of Abeokuta, let alone of Egbaland is a misnomer as his control since
arrival at Ake in 1830 and till today is restricted to Ake section of Abeokuta. The official Government Gazette testifies to this fact.


“In short, the Alake from history and all available records is a very junior traditional ruler in Yorubaland. His peers in Ijebuland are the Dagbuwere of Idowa, Ajalorun of Ijebu Ife, Akija of Ikija-Ijebu, Olowu of Owu-Ijebu, Oloko of Ijebu-Mushin, Orimolusi of Ijebu-Igbo and Ebumawe of Ago-Iwoye. I wish to recall that there had been an occasion in the past for three of us, the Awujale, the late Alake, Oba Lipede and the late Oba Okunade Sijuwade, the Ooni of Ife, to sit over the issue with former President Olusegun Obasanjo at Aso Rock, Abuja.


“It is important for Alake’s education to appreciate that Ijebu has been in existence for almost 1,000years and that we are the only people that still remain in our original homestead while other Yoruba towns and villages have relocated twice or more. If only he cares to obtain a copy of the book: “The Ijebu of Yorubaland (1850-1950”) by the late Prof. E.A Ayandele, that erudite Professor of History, and endeavour to read it, there he will know who the Ijebus are and appreciate that from time immemorial and since our settlement on Ijebu soil, Ijebu was, indeed, a nation until 1892 when we were defeated in the Magbon War by the British colonial forces.


“As to be expected, the British colonial masters left no stone unturned to humiliate us for daring to engage them in a war. When Sir Gilbert Carter read intelligence reports on Ijebuland at the Home Office in London, he felt convinced that the Ijebus were a special breed. Therefore, when he later found himself as Governor of Lagos colony, he prepared a treaty for the Awujale to sign so as to allow the missionaries to educate and evangelize the people as well as surrender their monopoly of trade between the coast and hinterland and for which he offered an annual payment of 800 pounds that was rejected.


“Notwithstanding the conquest, our early contact with the expatriates was quite significant and rewarding. It was during this period that our God-given commercial acumen was bought to play, resulting in enormous prosperity for the Ijebus to the envy of our neighbours. In conclusion, I hereby strongly admonish Alake to refrain from making such unsavoury, unguarded and unfounded statements which if not checked, may seriously jeopardize the unity of Yoruba Obas and their people.”




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Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by AnnaKareninaFan: 1:52am On Mar 11, 2016
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Pheals(f): 2:00am On Mar 11, 2016
Wow I love history .... This sound nice to me !!,,,., all this kings should go and learn lesson from Oyo empire ( a ji se bi Oyo lari Oyo ki sebi baba eni ko kan )
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Nobody: 2:08am On Mar 11, 2016
Pheals:
Wow I love history .... This sound nice to me !!,,,., all this kings should go and learn lesson from Oyo empire ( [s]a ji se bi Oyo lari Oyo ki sebi baba eni ko kan[/s] )
Abegi...which Oyo empire? The Ijebu, Benin and the Ife's people were already in existence for hundreds of years before Oyo was even created. grin
I like the way the Awujale of Ijebu schooled the Alake of Abeokuta.

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Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Pheals(f): 2:16am On Mar 11, 2016
princey83:

Abegi...which Oyo empire? The Ijebu, Benin and the Ife's people were already in existence for hundreds of years before Oyo was even created. grin
I like the way the Awujale of Ijebu schooled the Alake of Abeokuta.

according to history Oyo control most of Yoruba land .... Or I should school u also.... (Oya Google it "Oyo empire)
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by sunnydayasaba(m): 2:18am On Mar 11, 2016
All dis Obas claiming superiority, who Una don help? Buhari is not sharing any national cake, so u all should remain in ur palace and govern ur people. Stop dis royal ranking, we dnt even wat to know who is superior among u all
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Nobody: 2:25am On Mar 11, 2016
Pheals:
according to history Oyo control most of Yoruba land .... Or I should school u also.... (Oya Google it "Oyo empire)
LOL. The same Oyo the Dahomey ''ladies'' dealt with, Ekiti parapo dealt with, and took several beating from the Egba and Ibadan.
Babes empires come and go. The Ife, Benin, Nupe and Ijebu all had empires before that of Oyo.
Even at different point in time, Egyptians were world power (the Pharaohs), the Greeks were world power (Alexander of Macedonia and co), the Romans - present day Italy (and all their Emperors), the Portuguese (and their explorers - masters of the sea), the British, now the Americans, soon to come China tongue
Nobody cares about the past but the present. No wonder the late Ooni said the Alaafin was reigning over a dead empire. In my opinion, all these Obas reigning over dead empires grin
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Pheals(f): 2:36am On Mar 11, 2016
princey83:

LOL. The same Oyo the Dahomey ''ladies'' dealt with, Ekiti parapo dealt with, and took several beating from the Egba and Ibadan.
Babes empires come and go. The Ife, Benin, Nupe and Ijebu all had empires before that of Oyo.
Even at different point in time, Egyptians were world power (the Pharaohs), the Greeks were world power (Alexander of Macedonia and co), the Romans - present day Italy (and all their Emperors), the Portuguese (and their explorers - masters of the sea), the British, now the Americans, soon to come China tongue
Nobody cares about the past but the present. No wonder the late Ooni said the Alaafin was reigning over a dead empire. In my opinion, all these Obas reigning over dead empires grin
am not dragging u to foreign country guy ! .... Just tell me Benin republic ( Dahomey part are not still paying tribute to Oyo) before egba defeat them do u know how many years they have been under them before lisabi save them.... No Yoruba cities win war than the Oyo empire ( am still telling u Google it) doing the first visit of the British they refer all Yoruba land as Oyo empire before it was cancel ( oya Google it)
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by tyson99(m): 2:58am On Mar 11, 2016
Awujale always coming out straight and he is always blunt


God bless you Baba,awa ijebu omo alare
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Totalman1(m): 3:11am On Mar 11, 2016
Pheals:
am not dragging u to foreign country guy ! .... Just tell me Benin republic ( Dahomey part are not still paying tribute to Oyo) before egba defeat them do u know how many years they have been under them before lisabi save them.... No Yoruba cities win war than the Oyo empire ( am still telling u Google it) doing the first visit of the British they refer all Yoruba land as Oyo empire before it was cancel ( oya Google it)
Just a little piece of advice: When it comes to African history & culture & even some deeper things, there's a limit to what Almighty GODggle knows...
Sorry to disappoint u!
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Obipat(m): 3:21am On Mar 11, 2016
South wast.e, useless people and cowards

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Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by tyson99(m): 3:30am On Mar 11, 2016
Obipat:
South wast.e, useless people and cowards
Oloribu.ruku omo ale jatijati
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by Obipat(m): 3:47am On Mar 11, 2016
tyson99:

Oloribu.ruku omo ale jatijati
same to you
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by 23Tunde45(m): 5:42am On Mar 11, 2016
My dad is Egba and my mum is Ijebu, just curious, which side should I choose?

Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by christopher123(m): 6:48am On Mar 11, 2016
AnnaKareninaFan:
The Awujale and Paramount Ruler of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona has replied the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Aremu Gbadebo, over his recent ranking of Yoruba Obas. Recall Alake, in the ranking of the five top Obas, placed the Ooni of Ife as the first, followed by the Alaafin of Oyo, the Oba of Benin, with the Alake coming fourth and the Awujale fifth. Breaking his silence on the ranking, the Awujale spoke in Lagos at the Inaugural Lecture of the Professorial Chair in Governance he endowed at the Olabisi Onabanjo University, Ago Iwoye. Dismissing the ranking as self-serving, false and misrepresentation of facts, Awujale said the Alake was not higher than him in order of ranking, adding that at best, he was a junior traditional ruler in Yorubaland.


In Awujale's words, “My advice to Alake, being a young and inexperienced traditional ruler, is that he should contact Chief Olusegun Obasanjo for proper education so as to save himself and his people from further embarrassment. Not long ago, after the installation of Oba Alaiyeluwa Adeyeye Ogunwusi as the Ooni of Ife, he undertook steps to foster unity and cooperation among leading Yoruba Obas and for which I personally commend him.


“First, he joined the Alaafin at his 77th birthday celebration at Oyo. Thereafter, he visited me at Ijebu-Ode on Friday, January 29, 2016, followed by another visit to Abeokuta on Sunday, February 7, 2016, where he met Oba Adedotun Aremu Gbadebo in his palace at Ake, Abeokuta, with the exception of the Agura of Gbagura, Abeokuta, who was not around then. The Alake, while receiving the Ooni at his palace, said the Yoruba Obas (the Big Five so to say) had been categorised with the Ooni in the first position, followed by Alaafin, the Oba of Benin, with Alake coming fourth and the Awujale as the fifth in that order.


“He also went further to quote wrongly from a 1903 Gazette to support all the fallacies in his statement. When I learned of the statement, I made several calls to Alake until I eventually succeeded in finding out from him if those statements were actually made by him, which of course he vehemently denied. In a recent discussion between the Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, and I, we also touched on the same issue and the Oba of Lagos told me that he too had asked Alake the same question, which he had again denied vehemently. Regrettably, however, when the said statement a few days later was continuously credited to Alake on the pages of newspapers, I expected him to deny it or issue a rebuttal, but he did not do so. Therefore, I consider it necessary to debunk the aforementioned falsehood and misrepresentation of facts from Ake Palace so as to put the records straight.


“First, I would like to make it abundantly clear that the 1903 Gazette referred to by Alake was a Newspaper publication that he, in his self-serving role, is now presenting as an official Government Gazette. The first question to Alake is: Who categorised the Yoruba Obas and when? I challenge him to produce the document of the said categorisation. It is a known fact that Alake was a junior traditional ruler under the Alaafin at Orile Egba before he fled to Ibadan for refuge as a result of the war then ravaging Yoruba land.


“Following the defeat of Owu by the Ijebu Army in 1826, the Owus became refugees all over Yorubaland. Some of the Ijebu troops that fought the war proceeded to Ibadan where they met Alake and sacked him, consequently forcing him to seek refuge at Ake in Abeokuta in 1830
where, of course, he met Osile, Olowu and Agura already settled at Oke-Ona, Owu and Gbagura sections of Abeokuta township respectively.


“Even then, the Olubara, of Oyo origin had always argued that all the aforementioned four rulers met him in Abeokuta and, therefore, claimed to be their landlord. Alake’s real title “To ever refer to Alake as Alake of Abeokuta, let alone of Egbaland is a misnomer as his control since
arrival at Ake in 1830 and till today is restricted to Ake section of Abeokuta. The official Government Gazette testifies to this fact.


“In short, the Alake from history and all available records is a very junior traditional ruler in Yorubaland. His peers in Ijebuland are the Dagbuwere of Idowa, Ajalorun of Ijebu Ife, Akija of Ikija-Ijebu, Olowu of Owu-Ijebu, Oloko of Ijebu-Mushin, Orimolusi of Ijebu-Igbo and Ebumawe of Ago-Iwoye. I wish to recall that there had been an occasion in the past for three of us, the Awujale, the late Alake, Oba Lipede and the late Oba Okunade Sijuwade, the Ooni of Ife, to sit over the issue with former President Olusegun Obasanjo at Aso Rock, Abuja.


“It is important for Alake’s education to appreciate that Ijebu has been in existence for almost 1,000years and that we are the only people that still remain in our original homestead while other Yoruba towns and villages have relocated twice or more. If only he cares to obtain a copy of the book: “The Ijebu of Yorubaland (1850-1950”) by the late Prof. E.A Ayandele, that erudite Professor of History, and endeavour to read it, there he will know who the Ijebus are and appreciate that from time immemorial and since our settlement on Ijebu soil, Ijebu was, indeed, a nation until 1892 when we were defeated in the Magbon War by the British colonial forces.


“As to be expected, the British colonial masters left no stone unturned to humiliate us for daring to engage them in a war. When Sir Gilbert Carter read intelligence reports on Ijebuland at the Home Office in London, he felt convinced that the Ijebus were a special breed. Therefore, when he later found himself as Governor of Lagos colony, he prepared a treaty for the Awujale to sign so as to allow the missionaries to educate and evangelize the people as well as surrender their monopoly of trade between the coast and hinterland and for which he offered an annual payment of 800 pounds that was rejected.


“Notwithstanding the conquest, our early contact with the expatriates was quite significant and rewarding. It was during this period that our God-given commercial acumen was bought to play, resulting in enormous prosperity for the Ijebus to the envy of our neighbours. In conclusion, I hereby strongly admonish Alake to refrain from making such unsavoury, unguarded and unfounded statements which if not checked, may seriously jeopardize the unity of Yoruba Obas and their people.”




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What I'd wrong with these Yoruba kings ..I feel they are bunch of insecure dudes
Today no igbo King
Tomorrow we are greater than oba of Benin
Now this


They should be ashamed of themselves.. They are embarrassing their trousers tribe



This who is senior doesn't change the scientific facts of life

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Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by erosimo(m): 10:41am On Mar 11, 2016
tyson99:
Awujale always coming out straight and he is always blunt



God bless you Baba,awa ijebu omo alare
Straight my foot... like he said ijebus are from south sudan
Re: FULL Text>>Awujale Of Ijebu To Alake Of Egba On Ranking: 'You Are Inexperienced' by erosimo(m): 10:44am On Mar 11, 2016
just as i expected awujale to react 'cos he will never accept that alake is ahead of him in ranking

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