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Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by fromnigeria(m): 7:19am On Apr 23, 2016
In Our Nigerian version of christianity today, there exist many a myth and beliefs that even the holy bible can not prove.
One of them borders on witchcraft. Most christians here in Nigeria and even africa believes there is a place called coven. They say its a place where witches meet to perpetrate their evil acts. How they learnt this i do not know. Perhaps some of them have been there before and so knows so much.
My question is; Who has been to coven and where in the holy bible was an descriptive account of coven given?



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Re: Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by ATMC(f): 8:25am On Apr 23, 2016
Did bible mention crusade ground? Keep waiting.
Re: Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by Amberon11: 12:27pm On Apr 23, 2016
Deuteronomy 18: 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire , or one who practices witchcraft , or a soothsayer , or one who interprets omens , or a sorcerer ,

6 Also He caused his sons to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom; He practiced soothsaying , used witchcraft and sorcery , and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord , to provoke Him to anger.

Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against powers, against the
rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual
wickedness in high places.

The bible didn't explicitly say "coven" but the term "high places" or "heavenly places" can often be regarded as spiritual covens or habitat of demons, spiritual entities etc.

There you go, the bible has proven it and it is not "Nigerian Christianity".



fromnigeria:
In Our Nigerian version of christianity today, there exist many a myth and beliefs that even the holy bible can not prove.

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Re: Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by fromnigeria(m): 10:09am On Apr 25, 2016
Amberon11:
He practiced soothsaying , used witchcraft and sorcery , and consulted mediums and spiritists.

Ephesians 6:12, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

but the term "high places" or "heavenly places" can often be regarded as spiritual covens or habitat of demons, spiritual entities etc.
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yea, thanks for your view.
But i beg to disagree with you on some of your points.
E.g; how can you say but the term "high places" or "heavenly places" can often be regarded as spiritual covens or habitat of demons, spiritual entities etc.
can often be regarded means we are assuming, and there is not suppose to be any form of assumption if the scripture does not say so.

Again, the believe is that people go to covens for meeting.
From ephesians you quoted, it states spirits or demons. It also teaches that we don't deal or wrestle with fellow human beings. (flesh and blood).

The bible has not told us this in any way, you have only assumed 'high places to means coven. Even the the dictionary couldn't tell me more.

I think the major challenge we have ask christians is a suitable answer to this question of who is a witch or wizard.


How did people get the description of how covens look like?
Re: Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by Amberon: 12:21pm On Apr 25, 2016
^^^^^^^

High places or heavenly in that context means covens or any domain where evil activities are carried out.

Besides you didn't ask who a witch or wizard was, you asked if they existed as you thought it wasn't in the bible. That was before I gave you proof of their existence according to the scriptures.
Re: Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by PastorAIO: 2:58pm On Apr 25, 2016
Amberon:
^^^^^^^

High places or heavenly in that context means covens or any domain where evil activities are carried out.

Besides you didn't ask who a witch or wizard was, you asked if they existed as you thought it wasn't in the bible. That was before I gave you proof of their existence according to the scriptures.

Hmmm… The interpretator of scriptures. Mighty scribes.

epOuranos means heavenly as in Ouranos the heavens. In the same Ouranos where you'll find moon and stars and all sorts of heavenly bodies. Is that where the witches go to do their meetings? Are you sure it is not on top of the Iroko tree instead?
Re: Coven: Come In, If You Have Been There. by PastorAIO: 3:07pm On Apr 25, 2016
fromnigeria:

yea, thanks for your view.
But i beg to disagree with you on some of your points.
E.g; how can you say but the term "high places" or "heavenly places" can often be regarded as spiritual covens or habitat of demons, spiritual entities etc.
can often be regarded means we are assuming, and there is not suppose to be any form of assumption if the scripture does not say so.

The translations of bible passages often reveal so much about the fears and anxieties of the people doing the interpreting, their need to push through a certain doctrine by hook or by crook.

Ouranos means heaven. Epouranous meaning heavenly. How did they arrive at high places? that could easily be misconstrued for hills, tall buildings, or even the top of an iroko tree (lol).

Why the desperate need to disguise the fact that that passage is talking about the heavens (literally outer space)? Is it because we also hear that Heaven is where God is supposed to reside? Is it because we do not want to acknowledge that early christians believed that they were contending against cosmic agencies that could be found in the heavens, the very agencies that rule this world, not in a political sense like Rome ruled the world, but in a very matter of fact Natural scientific sense. Forces such as gravity, ageing process, Day and night cycles and everything that makes this world what it is, in other words the Forces Of Nature itself.

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