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Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 8:59pm On Jun 28, 2016
I read an article on Washington Post twitter handle and it has got me thinking. I studied history, and was told that archaeological findings shows that humans have a genetic similarities of a specie called "Homo Sapiens", and that the physical and behavioural traits shared by all people originated from apelike ancestors such as chimpanzee and gorillas etc. Now, why are apes no longer evolving into humans anymore? or does it mean this school of thought was just a fallacy? Should scientists officially tender an acceptance to bible's account on man's creation?....someone should clear my doubt please.

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by LordZero(m): 9:30pm On Jun 28, 2016
the theory is that; humans and apes have a common ancestry not that apes evolved into humans...

now to the evolution part.. evolution is basically driven by mutation. A mutation is a change in DNA, the hereditary material of life. An organism's DNA affects how it looks, how it behaves, and its physiology. So a change in an organism's DNA can cause changes in all aspects of its life. Mutations are essential to evolution; they are the raw material of genetic variation.
mutation occurs when an organism is exposed to environmental stress and other factors are involved too..

now think of the common ancestor as the stem of a tree, and human beings and apes as branches ( humans = branch H and apes as branch A) once you branch out as H, u just can't change into A and once u branch out as A, u can't just turn into H unless a mutation occurs in ur genes that changes u to the other branch.


hope you get it now..

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 10:18pm On Jun 28, 2016
LordZero:
the theory is that; humans and apes have a common ancestry not that apes evolved into humans...

now to the evolution part.. evolution is basically driven by mutation. A mutation is a change in DNA, the hereditary material of life. An organism's DNA affects how it looks, how it behaves, and its physiology. So a change in an organism's DNA can cause changes in all aspects of its life. Mutations are essential to evolution; they are the raw material of genetic variation.
mutation occurs when an organism is exposed to environmental stress and other factors are involved too..

now think of the common ancestor as the stem of a tree, and human beings and apes as branches ( humans = branch H and apes as branch A) once you branch out as H, u just can't change into A and once u branch out as A, u can't just turn into H unless a mutation occurs in ur genes that changes u to the other branch.


hope you get it now..
Yes..but if evolution is true, why don't we seem to be currently evolving? Why don't any other species seem to be evolving?
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by drake2(m): 10:23pm On Jun 28, 2016
Op, you should watch out for evolution in man. It is already happening before you. Different Behavioral and Sexual "Mutants" already exist.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by LordZero(m): 11:18pm On Jun 28, 2016
Ambjosh:
Yes..but if evolution is true, why don't we seem to be currently evolving? Why don't any other species seem to be evolving?
that's a good question. we are evolving one way or the other, it might not just be something well pronounced or visible...
there are a lot of things evolving currently, numerous bacteria(MRSA for example), viruses and other organisms. ..
that's why we are having outbreaks of diseases both new and old ones because of mutant strains that are difficult to fight.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by johnydon22(m): 8:33am On Jun 29, 2016
Ambjosh:
Yes..but if evolution is true, why don't we seem to be currently evolving? Why don't any other species seem to be evolving?

Because a baby does not grow up into an old woman in 3seconds, you have to stick around 70years to watch that.

evolution takes a very large scale of years, millions so how do you possibly hope to witness macro-evolution with a life time that is no more than a blink?

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 10:18am On Jun 29, 2016
Why Don't U First Ask Ur Self Why Are They Similarity Between Human And Ape??
Evolution Macro Evolution Takes Millions Of Years To Complete But If We Can Observe Micro Evolution Don't U Think Macro Will Be Possible To??
And Its Not Only Humans U Don't Get To See Wolfs Evolving Into DOG This Days And They Also From A Common Ancestor
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 11:57am On Jun 29, 2016
Evolution is Scientifically Impossible

Evolution is a theory developed one hundred and forty years ago by Charles Darwin (N/A actually, by his grandfather in 1794 - before Charles was even born), before science had the evidence available to prove the theory false.

His famous book, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, has a title that is now known to be scientifically false. New species cannot evolve by natural selection. Modern scientific discoveries are proving evolution to be impossible. No new scientific discoveries have been found to support the Theory of Evolution.

Life did not start with a bolt of lightning striking a pond of water as claimed by the main stream scientists.

Kids are taught that life can evolve given enough time. This is a false statement without any scientific support.

They are taught that if given enough time, a monkey at a typewriter could punch keys at random and eventually type President's Abraham Lincoln Gettysburg Address. This is nonsense.

Time does not make impossible things possible. As an example, a computer was programmed in an attempt to arrive at the simple 26-letter alphabet. After 35,000,000,000,000 (35 trillion) attempts it has only arrived at 14 letters correctly.

What are the odds that a simple single cell organism could evolve given the complexity of more than 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations all in the correct places? Never in eternity! Time does not make impossible things possible. (...)

The Indoctrination System Called "Education"

The educational system teaches children not to think. Any student who uses logic and solid scientific evidence to question the Theory of Evolution is ridiculed and insulted into submission. The students who submit become non-thinking robots who dare not question the dogma presented.

A forth-grade elementary school class was observed at the park playing a three-legged race game, where adjacent legs of the two kids were placed into a bag. The kids must cooperate with each step in order to run. The kids thought it was great fun. The teacher told them they were being trained to cooperate.

Actually, it was brainwashing kids into conforming to a system in which they are not allowed to have individual thoughts or opinions. They must become a "team player" and submit to peer pressure. Communist countries have used this same brainwashing technique for decades.

The brainwashing of school children continues by teaching them there is no absolute right or wrong, and the teacher is absolutely positive about it.

Whatever the children think is right for them is OK. That is of course until they question evolution. They are then told they are wrong. This brainwashing results in children who are unable to think logically, scientifically, and accurately. (...)

[Darwinian Evolution cannot be observed and replicated in order to be scientifically validated and also there is not one single known case of a change of kinds]

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 12:06pm On Jun 29, 2016
9 Scientific Facts Prove the "Theory of Evolution" is False

Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong

The body and soul of Darwin's Theory of Evolution was the idea that evolution was made possible through natural selection. This concept is based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live longer to procreate offspring with these superior adaptations.

Darwin's theory suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in new species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates between the old species and the new.

The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to escape the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the "evolutionary tree" have many flaws.

One of the best examples of evolution nonsense is the thought that a wingless bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable to his environment. The first wing stubs would be much too small for the bird to fly.

Why would a bird evolve wing stubs that are useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary theory of natural selection, which states that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment.

Why would the bird continue for millions of generations to improve a wing stub that is useless? The Theory of Evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species, not the weakest. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage. This is the opposite of natural selection.

According to natural selection, the members of the bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable and most likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of natural selection birds could never evolve to fly.

We are then led to believe that some birds got tired of carrying around a worthless half-size wing, so they grew fingers on the end to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was developed.

Evolutionists say birds grew hollow bones for less weight in order to fly. How would a bird pass this long-term plan to the millions of generations in order to keep the lighter bone plan progressing? The evolutionary concept of growing a wing over millions of generations violates the very foundation of evolution: the natural selection.

Birds aren't the only species that proves the theory of natural selection to be wrong. The problem can be found in all species in one way or another. Take fish for example.

We are told by evolutionists that a fish wiggled out of the sea onto dry land and became a land creature. So let's examine this idea. OK, a fish wiggles out of the sea and onto the land, but he can't breathe air. This could happen. Fish do stupid things at times.

Whales keep swimming up onto the beach where they die. Do you think the whales are trying to expedite a multi-million generation plan to grow legs? That concept is stupid, but let's get back to the fish story.

The gills of the fish are made for extracting oxygen from water, not from air. He chokes and gasps before flipping back into the safety of the water. Why would he do such a stupid thing? This wiggling and choking continues for millions of generation until the fish chokes less and less. His gills evolve into lungs so he can breathe air on dry land, but now he is at risk of drowning in the water.

One day he simply stays out on the land and never goes back into the water. Now he is a lizard.

Giant dinosaurs literally exploded onto the scene during the Triassic period. The fossil record (petrified bones found in the ground as at the Dinosaur National Park in Jensen, Utah, USA) shows no intermediate or transitional species. Where are the millions of years of fossils showing the triassic period. The fossil record (petrified bones found in the ground as at the Dinosaur National Park in Jensen, Utah, USA) shows no intermediate or transitional species. Where are the millions of years of fossils showing the transitional forms for dinosaurs? They do not not exist, because the dinosaurs did not evolve.

Books published by evolutionists have shown the giant Cetiosaurus dinosaur with the long neck extending upright eating from the treetops. They claimed natural selection was the reason Cetiosaurus had a long neck. This gave them an advantage in reaching fodder that other species could not reach.

One day during the assembly of a skeleton for a museum display someone noticed the neck vertebrae were such that the neck could not be lifted higher than stretched horizontally in front of them. The natural selection theory was proven to be a big lie.

The Cetiosaurus dinosaur was an undergrowth eater. The long neck actually placed the Cetiosaurus at a disadvantage in his environment, just the opposite from the natural Theory of Natural Selection.

Evolutionists will now claim the animal evolved a long neck because he had the advantage of eating from bushes on the other side of the river. This is typical logic of an evolutionist.

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 12:11pm On Jun 29, 2016
Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Prove Evolution Theory is Wrong

The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic, and scientific proof.

Evolutionists line up pictures of similar-looking species and claim they evolved one from another. The human "family tree" is an example of this flawed theory. Petrified skulls and bones exist from hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes.

Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture.

This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes, elephants or the Platypus. (...)

The pictures are simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.

Close to the Missing Link -- Oldest Human Ancestor Discovered






A monkey species that has become extinct. Lots of species have become extinct. Millions of species have become extinct.

It is obviously not similar to a human. Look at the feet with the big toe spread away from the smaller toes exactly like a modern chimpanzee, not like people.

A newly discovered extinct species does not prove a "missing link" has been found.

Charles Darwin admitted that fossils of the transitional links between species would have to be found in order to prove his "Theory of Evolution." Well, these transitional links have never been found. We only find individual species.

Evolutionists try to form these individual species into a link according to similar major features such as wings or four legs, but this simply proves the Theory of Evolution to be a fraud. Darwin was hopeful that future fossils would prove his theory correct, but instead, the lack of transitional links has proven his theory to be wrong.

The presence of individual species actually proves they were not developed by an evolutionary process. If evolution were true, all plants, animals, and insects would be in a continual state of change. No two creatures would be identical, because they would not be separate species.

All life forms would be a continual blend of characteristics without a clear definition among the species. Everything would be changing, and every animal, insect, and plant would be different.

The cheetah above proves evolution does not exist. All species are locked solidly within their DNA code.

Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 12:21pm On Jun 29, 2016
The "Living Fossil" Fish Proves Evolution is Wrong

The Coelacanth fish was touted to be a transitional form with half-formed legs and primitive lungs, ready to transition onto land. This myth was exploded in December, 1938 when a live Coelacanth was caught in a fisherman's net off the eastern coast of South Africa. It is now known that the natives of the Comoro Islands had been catching and eating the fish for years.


It did not have half-formed legs or primitive lungs. It was simply a regular fish that people thought was extinct. Evolutionist claimed the 350 million-year-old Coelacanth evolved into animals with legs, feet, and lungs.

This not the case. We now see that the fish recently caught is exactly like the 350 million-year-old fossil. It did not evolve at all.

The Coelacanth is a star witness against the false theory of evolution. After 350 million years, the fish still doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 12:28pm On Jun 29, 2016
Here is a link to read more about it http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/9-scienctific-facts-prove-theory-of.html?m=0 evolution is hoax.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by ValentineMary(m): 3:31pm On Jun 29, 2016
Dawdy:
Evolution is Scientifically Impossible

Evolution is a theory developed one hundred and forty years ago by Charles Darwin (N/A actually, by his grandfather in 1794 - before Charles was even born), before science had the evidence available to prove the theory false.

His famous book, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, has a title that is now known to be scientifically false. New species cannot evolve by natural selection. Modern scientific discoveries are proving evolution to be impossible. No new scientific discoveries have been found to support the Theory of Evolution.

Life did not start with a bolt of lightning striking a pond of water as claimed by the main stream scientists.

Kids are taught that life can evolve given enough time. This is a false statement without any scientific support.

They are taught that if given enough time, a monkey at a typewriter could punch keys at random and eventually type President's Abraham Lincoln Gettysburg Address. This is nonsense.

Time does not make impossible things possible. As an example, a computer was programmed in an attempt to arrive at the simple 26-letter alphabet. After 35,000,000,000,000 (35 trillion) attempts it has only arrived at 14 letters correctly.

What are the odds that a simple single cell organism could evolve given the complexity of more than 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations all in the correct places? Never in eternity! Time does not make impossible things possible. (...)

The Indoctrination System Called "Education"

The educational system teaches children not to think. Any student who uses logic and solid scientific evidence to question the Theory of Evolution is ridiculed and insulted into submission. The students who submit become non-thinking robots who dare not question the dogma presented.

A forth-grade elementary school class was observed at the park playing a three-legged race game, where adjacent legs of the two kids were placed into a bag. The kids must cooperate with each step in order to run. The kids thought it was great fun. The teacher told them they were being trained to cooperate.

Actually, it was brainwashing kids into conforming to a system in which they are not allowed to have individual thoughts or opinions. They must become a "team player" and submit to peer pressure. Communist countries have used this same brainwashing technique for decades.

The brainwashing of school children continues by teaching them there is no absolute right or wrong, and the teacher is absolutely positive about it.

Whatever the children think is right for them is OK. That is of course until they question evolution. They are then told they are wrong. This brainwashing results in children who are unable to think logically, scientifically, and accurately. (...)

[Darwinian Evolution cannot be observed and replicated in order to be scientifically validated and also there is not one single known case of a change of kinds]
From our knowledge of pre-biotic chemistry, we can actually get cell from a lightening. Why do I say so? if we are to take hydrogen, ammonia, methane, CO 2 and energy and heat them up under high temperature, we would get amino acid. Pls not that amino acid is the building block of protein. Different protein is as a result of different amino acid sequence. So lightening can act as the enegy source. And also pls remember that our atmosphere 4 billion years ago was filled with hydrogen, methan, ammonia and carbon (IV) oxide. Also we can get organic matter like urea from the combustion of inorganic matter like ammoniun and CO 2 ·

Certain prokaryotes like hyper thermophiles can.withstand such heat. Now can't these organic matter be attracted by electrostatic attraction (observing that cellular component are electrically neutral)?

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jun 29, 2016
[color=#000099][/color] All these comments I read below about human existence are still debatable. Historically, evolution is not observable, measurable, or testable, nor have hypothesis about how it happened even being proven and agreed upon by scientists. Infact, the human was created as a fully formed man. The second human as a fully formed woman. The fosil record supports this. Archaeologist LSB Leakey proves this after his discovery of the first human fosil at Oduvai Gorge in East Africa in 1978.
No one has actually witnessed evolution as such because evolution takes a very long time to take place like hundreds of thousands or millions of years. Now, if humans were really the descedants of apes, how come apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes and we humans have only 23 chromosome pairs? Humans are far more complex than apes, surely they should have more chromosomes than the apes; Or may be this is evolution in reverse.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 5:41pm On Jun 29, 2016
Dawdy:
Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Prove Evolution Theory is Wrong

The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic, and scientific proof.

Evolutionists line up pictures of similar-looking species and claim they evolved one from another. The human "family tree" is an example of this flawed theory. Petrified skulls and bones exist from hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes.

Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture.

This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes, elephants or the Platypus. (...)

The pictures are simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.

Close to the Missing Link -- Oldest Human Ancestor Discovered






A monkey species that has become extinct. Lots of species have become extinct. Millions of species have become extinct.

It is obviously not similar to a human. Look at the feet with the big toe spread away from the smaller toes exactly like a modern chimpanzee, not like people.

A newly discovered extinct species does not prove a "missing link" has been found.

Charles Darwin admitted that fossils of the transitional links between species would have to be found in order to prove his "Theory of Evolution." Well, these transitional links have never been found. We only find individual species.

Evolutionists try to form these individual species into a link according to similar major features such as wings or four legs, but this simply proves the Theory of Evolution to be a fraud. Darwin was hopeful that future fossils would prove his theory correct, but instead, the lack of transitional links has proven his theory to be wrong.

The presence of individual species actually proves they were not developed by an evolutionary process. If evolution were true, all plants, animals, and insects would be in a continual state of change. No two creatures would be identical, because they would not be separate species.

All life forms would be a continual blend of characteristics without a clear definition among the species. Everything would be changing, and every animal, insect, and plant would be different.

The cheetah above proves evolution does not exist. All species are locked solidly within their DNA code.
Even most renowned scientists don't buy the idea of evolution. Its not always proven and agreed upon.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by johnydon22(m): 11:38pm On Jun 29, 2016
ValentineMary:

From our knowledge of pre-biotic chemistry, we can actually get cell from a lightening. Why do I say so? if we are to take hydrogen, ammonia, methane, CO 2 and energy and heat them up under high temperature, we would get amino acid. Pls not that amino acid is the building block of protein. Different protein is as a result of different amino acid sequence. So lightening can act as the enegy source. And also pls remember that our atmosphere 4 billion years ago was filled with hydrogen, methan, ammonia and carbon (IV) oxide. Also we can get organic matter like urea from the combustion of inorganic matter like ammoniun and CO 2 ·

Certain prokaryotes like hyper thermophiles can.withstand such heat. Now can't these organic matter be attracted by electrostatic attraction (observing that cellular component are electrically neutral)?

Waste of time bro, waste of time... this is someone who still cling to medieval astrology : flat earth, aether, geocentric universe, static earth.

Complete waste of time, dont bother

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by CAPSLOCKED: 6:55am On Jun 30, 2016
johnydon22:


Waste of time bro, waste of time... this is someone who still cling to medieval astrology : flat earth, aether, geocentric universe, static earth.

Complete waste of time, dont bother



cheesy
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 1:30pm On Jun 30, 2016
johnydon22:


Waste of time bro, waste of time... this is someone who still cling to medieval astrology : flat earth, aether, geocentric universe, static earth.

Complete waste of time, dont bother
Is it my fault if I refuse to accept bullshit? The only proof you have to support heliocentric model is gravity. Then I challenged you to prove gravity. You couldn't. Electromagnetism and other forces can be proven and practicalized. How come gravity can't be? Besides, let us be realistic, do you know how these things work? Have you done researched yourself? Can you observe them yourself? You don't own a telescope! Do you? Or you rely on people's speculations and theories to judge realities?

How can you be so sure that cartoon photos and videos you have been shown are the reality happens out there? With the so called thousands of satellite orbiting the earth, there is no time lapse video to prove it. Just Nasa cartoons have been shown all this while. How can any in his right sense
think we live on a spinning ball shooting through the universe at 490,000 miles an hour where the Milky Way galaxy moves with us and the sun? yet it doesn't tear apart, neither do we feel anything.

Prove big Bang theory. Tell us how something came from nothing. IF energy and mass can't be created or destroyed, then how/where did the Big Bang get its start?

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by urahara(m): 7:22pm On Jun 30, 2016
johnydon22:


Waste of time bro, waste of time... this is someone who still cling to medieval astrology : flat earth, aether, geocentric universe, static earth.

Complete waste of time, dont bother

shocked
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by johnydon22(m): 8:34pm On Jun 30, 2016
Dawdy:

Is it my fault if I refuse to accept bullshit? The only proof you have to support heliocentric model is gravity. Then I challenged you to prove gravity. You couldn't. Electromagnetism and other forces can be proven and practicalized. How come gravity can't be? Besides, let us be realistic, do you know how these things work? Have you done researched yourself? Can you observe them yourself? You don't own a telescope! Do you? Or you rely on people's speculations and theories to judge realities?

How can you be so sure that cartoon photos and videos you have been shown are the reality happens out there? With the so called thousands of satellite orbiting the earth, there is no time lapse video to prove it. Just Nasa cartoons have been shown all this while. How can any in his right sense
think we live on a spinning ball shooting through the universe at 490,000 miles an hour where the Milky Way galaxy moves with us and the sun? yet it doesn't tear apart, neither do we feel anything.

Prove big Bang theory. Tell us how something came from nothing. IF energy and mass can't be created or destroyed, then how/where did the Big Bang get its start?

I can but i just know when i'd be wasting my time so there absolutely is no need for me to.

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by deeoh(m): 6:44am On Jul 01, 2016
LordZero:
the theory is that; humans and apes have a common ancestry not that apes evolved into humans...

now to the evolution part.. evolution is basically driven by mutation. A mutation is a change in DNA, the hereditary material of life. An organism's DNA affects how it looks, how it behaves, and its physiology. So a change in an organism's DNA can cause changes in all aspects of its life. Mutations are essential to evolution; they are the raw material of genetic variation.
mutation occurs when an organism is exposed to environmental stress and other factors are involved too..

now think of the common ancestor as the stem of a tree, and human beings and apes as branches ( humans = branch H and apes as branch A) once you branch out as H, u just can't change into A and once u branch out as A, u can't just turn into H unless a mutation occurs in ur genes that changes u to the other branch.


hope you get it now..
why is it that another branch has not evolved and mutation has not produce another specie. back to your analogy while will they have same stem but different branches, is like a coconut branch growing on pawpaw tree wouldn't that be weird?
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by LordZero(m): 11:13am On Jul 01, 2016
deeoh:

why is it that another branch has not evolved and mutation has not produce another specie. back to your analogy while will they have same stem but different branches, is like a coconut branch growing on pawpaw tree wouldn't that be weird?
according to that theory, evolution takes millions of years...

bact to my analogy, i only used that in a layman's term.
there is something called the tree of life and that's how the represent the branching (diversity) among species.






layman's term again. i used same stem different branches based on the claims that human and apes are genetically related, which means they have many things in common.. if u look at a tree, the branches are not always the same (size, lenght and shape) but they are from the same stem (common ancestor) still they are different from each other due to some factors (light intensity, rate of growth and development which is same as environmental pressure that lead to evolution).




coconut on paw paw? ? that's some weird shii.
There are a lot of interesting theories about origin of life..
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 1:10am On Jul 03, 2016
Ambjosh:
I read an article on Washington Post twitter handle and it has got me thinking. I studied history, and was told that archaeological findings shows that humans have a genetic similarities of a specie called "Homo Sapiens", and that the physical and behavioural traits shared by all people originated from apelike ancestors such as chimpanzee and gorillas etc. Now, why are apes no longer evolving into humans anymore? or does it mean this school of thought was just a fallacy? Should scientists officially tender an acceptance to bible's account on man's creation?....someone should clear my doubt please.
I like it when people try to assume that the millions of scientists in the world that are desperately working to unravel the mystery that the universe holds are a bunch of idiots. while they themselves do little to educate them on what has already been found.

this your question is pointless. let me ask you a better question.


Archeological findings shows that Chimpanzees and humans share similar characteristics. and that they share basic physical and behavioral traits. now, why aren't humans evolving into chimpanzees anymore? does this mean the school of thought was just a fallacy? why aren't humans becoming chimpanzees? after all, they share the same heritage. humans HAVE to become chimpanzees. or the theory of evolution is wrong.


the fact is, you have nothing more to do with a chimpanzee than you have anything to do with your cousin in the village. your bloodlines have diverged. what you share is ancestral traits. not a magical tendency to morph into one another. you and chimpanzees are cousins. incredibly distant cousins. and in fact, the difference between chimpanzees and humans will only increase into the future. because we're going our own way, and they're going their own way.



please avoid dawdy as much as you can. for the most part, he doesn't even know what he's talking about.

Dawdy:

Is it my fault if I refuse to accept bullshit? The only proof you have to support heliocentric model is gravity. Then I challenged you to prove gravity. You couldn't. Electromagnetism and other forces can be proven and practicalized. How come gravity can't be? Besides, let us be realistic, do you know how these things work? Have you done researched yourself? Can you observe them yourself? You don't own a telescope! Do you? Or you rely on people's speculations and theories to judge realities?
How can you be so sure that cartoon photos and videos you have been shown are the reality happens out there? With the so called thousands of satellite orbiting the earth, there is no time lapse video to prove it. Just Nasa cartoons have been shown all this while. How can any in his right sense
think we live on a spinning ball shooting through the universe at 490,000 miles an hour where the Milky Way galaxy moves with us and the sun? yet it doesn't tear apart, neither do we feel anything.
Prove big Bang theory. Tell us how something came from nothing. IF energy and mass can't be created or destroyed, then how/where did the Big Bang get its start?
Just look at the bolded above. a gross misunderstanding of BASIC scientific principles.
dawdy, i propose an experiment for you. have yourself drugged and transported into a huge luxury ship. when you wake up, the ship will either be moving at constant speed or standing still. I challenge you to conduct an experiment that will determine if the ship is moving or not. and that will work every time. if you succeed, call me a goat. if you don't, we can all continue to ridicule you for being one.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by tartar9(m): 7:20am On Jul 03, 2016
All in All,evolution is a theory...created to explain a phenomena of nature.These same scientists would readily drop or modify their theory if a better explanation is found and they have no reason tendering any apology to the so-called biblical account-Science isn't dogmatic.A good scientist isn't oblivious to this fact...,"they could just be wrong",however improbable that may seem.

In the world of science,only in the transcendent realm of mathematics could such irrevocable truths ever be proffered.It will be unwise for anyone throwing away or compromising on a matter as serious as the belief in God,judging from this mutable nature of what constitutes scientific knowledge-where absolute truths as it is,can never be known.

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by sinaj(f): 8:28am On Jul 03, 2016
Dawdy:
9 Scientific Facts Prove the "Theory of Evolution" is False

Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong

The body and soul of Darwin's Theory of Evolution was the idea that evolution was made possible through natural selection. This concept is based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live longer to procreate offspring with these superior adaptations.

Darwin's theory suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in new species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates between the old species and the new.

The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to escape the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the "evolutionary tree" have many flaws.

One of the best examples of evolution nonsense is the thought that a wingless bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable to his environment. The first wing stubs would be much too small for the bird to fly.

Why would a bird evolve wing stubs that are useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary theory of natural selection, which states that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment.

Why would the bird continue for millions of generations to improve a wing stub that is useless? The Theory of Evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species, not the weakest. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage. This is the opposite of natural selection.

According to natural selection, the members of the bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable and most likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of natural selection birds could never evolve to fly.

We are then led to believe that some birds got tired of carrying around a worthless half-size wing, so they grew fingers on the end to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was developed.

Evolutionists say birds grew hollow bones for less weight in order to fly. How would a bird pass this long-term plan to the millions of generations in order to keep the lighter bone plan progressing? The evolutionary concept of growing a wing over millions of generations violates the very foundation of evolution: the natural selection.

Birds aren't the only species that proves the theory of natural selection to be wrong. The problem can be found in all species in one way or another. Take fish for example.

We are told by evolutionists that a fish wiggled out of the sea onto dry land and became a land creature. So let's examine this idea. OK, a fish wiggles out of the sea and onto the land, but he can't breathe air. This could happen. Fish do stupid things at times.

Whales keep swimming up onto the beach where they die. Do you think the whales are trying to expedite a multi-million generation plan to grow legs? That concept is stupid, but let's get back to the fish story.

The gills of the fish are made for extracting oxygen from water, not from air. He chokes and gasps before flipping back into the safety of the water. Why would he do such a stupid thing? This wiggling and choking continues for millions of generation until the fish chokes less and less. His gills evolve into lungs so he can breathe air on dry land, but now he is at risk of drowning in the water.

One day he simply stays out on the land and never goes back into the water. Now he is a lizard.

Giant dinosaurs literally exploded onto the scene during the Triassic period. The fossil record (petrified bones found in the ground as at the Dinosaur National Park in Jensen, Utah, USA) shows no intermediate or transitional species. Where are the millions of years of fossils showing the triassic period. The fossil record (petrified bones found in the ground as at the Dinosaur National Park in Jensen, Utah, USA) shows no intermediate or transitional species. Where are the millions of years of fossils showing the transitional forms for dinosaurs? They do not not exist, because the dinosaurs did not evolve.

Books published by evolutionists have shown the giant Cetiosaurus dinosaur with the long neck extending upright eating from the treetops. They claimed natural selection was the reason Cetiosaurus had a long neck. This gave them an advantage in reaching fodder that other species could not reach.

One day during the assembly of a skeleton for a museum display someone noticed the neck vertebrae were such that the neck could not be lifted higher than stretched horizontally in front of them. The natural selection theory was proven to be a big lie.

The Cetiosaurus dinosaur was an undergrowth eater. The long neck actually placed the Cetiosaurus at a disadvantage in his environment, just the opposite from the natural Theory of Natural Selection.

Evolutionists will now claim the animal evolved a long neck because he had the advantage of eating from bushes on the other side of the river. This is typical logic of an evolutionist.

Nice one bro.

I never believed evolutionary theory coz it sound absurd.

Evn a teen can spot out irregularities in them.

Not evn Darwins theory could convince me.

Always read them to pass exam nd shove d memory aside.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by davien(m): 4:46pm On Jul 03, 2016
As much as you all can whine all day about evolution being "untrue", it'll still keep being used in biochemistry, paleontology,anatomy, genetics,etc... because it works.

Merely scanning through one easily sees this thread as an emotionally steered topic and not one based on intellect.
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 5:02pm On Jul 03, 2016
Teempakguy:
I like it when people try to assume that the millions of scientists in the world that are desperately working to unravel the mystery that the universe holds are a bunch of idiots. while they themselves do little to educate them on what has already been found.

this your question is pointless. let me ask you a better question.


Archeological findings shows that Chimpanzees and humans share similar characteristics. and that they share basic physical and behavioral traits. now, why aren't humans evolving into chimpanzees anymore? does this mean the school of thought was just a fallacy? why aren't humans becoming chimpanzees? after all, they share the same heritage. humans HAVE to become chimpanzees. or the theory of evolution is wrong.


the fact is, you have nothing more to do with a chimpanzee than you have anything to do with your cousin in the village. your bloodlines have diverged. what you share is ancestral traits. not a magical tendency to morph into one another. you and chimpanzees are cousins. incredibly distant cousins. and in fact, the difference between chimpanzees and humans will only increase into the future. because we're going our own way, and they're going their own way.



please avoid dawdy as much as you can. for the most part, he doesn't even know what he's talking about.

Just look at the bolded above. a gross misunderstanding of BASIC scientific principles.
dawdy, i propose an experiment for you. have yourself drugged and transported into a huge luxury ship. when you wake up, the ship will either be moving at constant speed or standing still. I challenge you to conduct an experiment that will determine if the ship is moving or not. and that will work every time. if you succeed, call me a goat. if you don't, we can all continue to ridicule you for being one.

Teempakguy, before you avoid me, one question I have with your so called experiment why we don't feel the Earth spin and your comparison with ship or driving in a car is that when in a ship or car we are traveling in a straight line direction, however on the spinning Earth we are going in a circular direction. And when you are in a car and you go around a corner or curve in the highway for example, you will feel some centripetal force which is the acceleration towards the center point of the radius of the curve or turn. We can feel this at very low speeds too. Shouldn't we feel this on the Earth which is spinning at 1000 miles per hour at the equator? In Calgary we are spinning (supposedly) at 600 mph. Yet there is no feeling of spin at all. If I was on a carousel I would definitely feel it spinning even at low speeds!
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by tartar9(m): 6:58pm On Jul 03, 2016
Dawdy:


Teempakguy, before you avoid me, one question I have with your so called experiment why we don't feel the Earth spin and your comparison with ship or driving in a car is that when in a ship or car we are traveling in a straight line direction, however on the spinning Earth we are going in a circular direction. And when you are in a car and you go around a corner or curve in the highway for example, you will feel some centripetal force which is the acceleration towards the center point of the radius of the curve or turn. We can feel this at very low speeds too. Shouldn't we feel this on the Earth which is spinning at 1000 miles per hour at the equator? In Calgary we are spinning (supposedly) at 600 mph. Yet there is no feeling of spin at all. If I was on a carousel I would definitely feel it spinning even at low speeds!
You can't feel the effect of the earths rotation or movement because its gravity carries you along,so the relative velocity here is zero.How many times would you be told

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Dawdy(m): 7:32pm On Jul 03, 2016
tartar9:

You can't feel the effect of the earths rotation or movement because its gravity carries you along,so the relative velocity here is zero.How many times would you be told
And what is gravity if I may ask? Isn't the unproven lie? Sorry, it's called theory?
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jul 03, 2016
Dawdy:


Teempakguy, before you avoid me, one question I have with your so called experiment why we don't feel the Earth spin and your comparison with ship or driving in a car is that when in a ship or car we are traveling in a straight line direction, however on the spinning Earth we are going in a circular direction. And when you are in a car and you go around a corner or curve in the highway for example, you will feel some centripetal force which is the acceleration towards the center point of the radius of the curve or turn. We can feel this at very low speeds too. Shouldn't we feel this on the Earth which is spinning at 1000 miles per hour at the equator? In Calgary we are spinning (supposedly) at 600 mph. Yet there is no feeling of spin at all. If I was on a carousel I would definitely feel it spinning even at low speeds!
No you won't.

Finally, we have both found something that we can both test.

I hereby put it to you that if you are in a spinning carousel, you will not feel it spinning. provided,


1. the carousel has a radius of 5 meters

2. the carousel is spinning at a rate of 1.47km/h

3. you are entirely made up of a ferromagnetic material. i.e, you are covered essentially in ferromagnetic material. perhaps you should paint yourself all over with magnetic liquid.

4. there is a huge magnet at the center of the carousel, who's magnetic field is about two kilometers wide, and whose strength is strong enough to lift a car from the ground. which means you'd be in the magnetic field




If you conduct the experiment properly and you feel anything, call me a bastard. now, lemme explain to you. not only is the centrifugal/centripetal acceleration of the earth painfully small to do anything realistic enough for the human body to feel, it is also overwhelmed by the vast gravitational potential field of the earth. hence, you can't feel a damn thing. even if you try. that's how vector addition works. picture a tiny arrow pointing tangential to the earth's surface. that's the direction that the force you so desperately want to feel is pointing.

picture an incredibly long arrow pointing toward the center of the earth. and that's where gravity is pointing. if you add the two vectors together, the resultant still points to the center of the earth. hence, the only force you will feel will be . . . down down down. dude, this is simple physics, what did you study in school na?


Dawdy:

And what is gravity if I may ask? Isn't the unproven lie? Sorry, it's called theory?
Of course gravity has been proven. where have you been living? they built a multi million dollar experiment called LIGO to observe gravitational waves. the analogue of light waves in electromagnetism. and guess what? success. of course, you can try to deny that. but then, you'll have to explain why X-rays are real, and gravitational waves aren't. since both types of radiation have been detected. and continue to be detected.

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Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Jul 03, 2016
sinaj:


Nice one bro.

I never believed evolutionary theory coz it sound absurd.

Evn a teen can spot out irregularities in them.

Not evn Darwins theory could convince me.

Always read them to pass exam nd shove d memory aside.
Please don't embarrass yourself on the thread and by extension, the site. if you have questions, ask. at the end of the day, you're rejecting the theory because you've been spoon fed with a Different theory, with which you have emotional connections. that is what you should admit. not that the theory "sounds absurd."
Re: Dear Science; Why Aren't Apes Evolving Into Humans Anymore? by samsard(m): 5:51pm On Jul 05, 2016
sinaj:


Nice one bro.

I never believed evolutionary theory coz it sound absurd.

Evn a teen can spot out irregularities in them.

Not evn Darwins theory could convince me.

Always read them to pass exam nd shove d memory aside.
Like someone said, you are not rejecting the theory of evolution on intellectual grounds, rather you are rejecting it based on emotional attachment to seven day creation myth. You think all the advances in science/technology/medicine were based on the myth that god created man from mud? If we all filled the gaps in our knowledge with superstition and religious myths man would still be stuck in the dark ages where anything we dont understand is an act of god.

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