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Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 6:44pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:Can U Please Provide Some Pic Of Penguins In Desert?? And I Don't Mean Beach o |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 7:07pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:you know nothing about dead sea scroll. dead sea scroll are mostly bible documents and they prove autheticity of bible. check components of dead sea scroll online. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:Nope It Contradict The Bible!! Base On Its Contents Though They Might Agree A Little On Somethings |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 7:13pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/wild/untamed-americas/videos/desert-penguins/
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Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 7:15pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: can u list components of dead sea scrol? dead sea scrolls are oldest bible manuscripts available. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 7:20pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: can u list components of dead sea scrol? dead sea scrolls are oldest bible manuscripts available. http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/featured-scrolls The discovery of the first Dead Sea Scrolls in a remote Judean Desert cave in 1947 is widely considered the greatest archaeological event of the twentieth century. Bedouin treasure hunters and archaeologists ultimately found the remains of hundreds of ancient scrolls. These fragile pieces of parchment and papyrus, including the oldest existing copies of the Hebrew Bible, were preserved for two thousand years by the hot, dry desert climate and the darkness of the caves where they were placed. The scrolls provide an unprecedented picture of the diverse religious beliefs of ancient Judaism, and of daily life during the turbulent Second Temple period when Jesus lived and preached. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 7:29pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:Did U See That White Marker On The Pic?? WHAT does That Say About The Pic?? And Besides Thats Not Desert That Look Like White Clay! |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 7:35pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:Yes Judaism Jews Not Gentiles Christian And Am Not Saying That Some Jew Didn't Convert To Christians |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 8:06pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Careful scrutiny of the Dead Sea Scrolls along with Gnostic literature lend to the idea that there were many sects of Judaism spread throughout the Greco Roman world. The historical Jesus was a part of this movement but not its founder ultimately initiating a schism that separated what we think of as Christianity from the extremely conservative Essene sect-he was a real person!-but not a God or miracle worker!-the miracles of the NT (evidence from the DSS indicate which was written in 1st century AD) are metaphorical/symbolic of the changes he made to this dispersed/Gentile version of Judaism which was spreading through the Greco Roman world. For these reasons he was referred to as The Wicked Priest in the DSS, which were written by people who became his enemies. part of the Controversy of the Scrolls arises two things. 1st from people’s misunderstanding of the inaccuracies of carbon dating and its inability to give a perfect consistent date-however internal analysis reveals it to be from the Herodian period as they criticize marriage practices known to be of the Herods! 2nd-In my opinion there is a struggle between Jewish scholarship and Christian scholarrs-both of which would like to claim the scrolls and discredit the other group-the truth is that 1st century Christianity as well as 1st century Judaism is far more varied its forms than modern thinkers believe. The world stands on the precipice of a great revolution in thinking in terms of what Christianity was and will become. Most importantly-to deny the existence of a fully human historical Jesus does a great disservice to both the Jewish and Christian legacies. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 8:42pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: we are talking about oldest book in human history. bible is the oldest book. take it or leave. this dicussion is not about whether all jews accepted or are accepting jesus as son of God. besides, inspired Bible jews also wrote other books. in time of jesus there are various sects in judaism. mind u judaists do not really follow laws of moses, they also follow tradition. jesus condemned jewish leaders in his days because they followed men tradition and ignored God. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 8:45pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: have u ever visited desert? nationalgeograhic is best prove i have. besides, take your times to check penguin in wikipedia. they are penguin in deserts!! |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 9:03pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:MAN TRADITION MEANING?? Was It Man Tradition To Stone A Woman To Death If She Comites Adultery?? Is It Man Tradition To Penelize Someone If They Work On Day Of The Sabbath?? |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:They Are Not N That Pic U Posted Was Either Fake Or That's Just Mud U Cant Did Into Desert Sand Like The Way The Penguin In That Pic Did |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 9:17pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: you need to understand bible before you can condemn it. Do more research on men tradition that Jesus said regarding jewish religion leaders. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 9:19pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: that mean you do not have what it takes to challenge Bible if you do not know national geograhic |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 9:26pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:I Didnt Do Geography In School But I Can Recognize A Desert When I See One |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:WHY Don't U State It Here?? LETS Refute It? |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 9:33pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:Disapproved Traditions. The Jewish religious leaders, though, had added to the written Word many verbal traditions that they viewed as indispensable to true worship. Paul (Saul), as a Pharisee before his conversion to Christianity, was unusually zealous to follow the traditions of Judaism. These would, of course, include the unobjectionable ones as well as the bad ones. But by following the “commands of men as doctrines,” he was led to be a persecutor of Christians. ( ) For instance, they ‘did not eat unless they washed their hands up to the elbow, holding fast the tradition of the men of former times.’ ( ) Among those men, this practice was not for hygienic purposes, but it was a ceremonious ritual that supposedly had religious merit. Christ showed that they had no basis for criticizing his disciples for not following that and other unnecessary “commands of men.” ( ) Furthermore, by their tradition regarding “corban” (a gift dedicated to God) the religious leaders had made God’s Word invalid, overstepping the commandment of God. www.jw.org |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 9:36pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: nationalgeograhic is a tv channels available online and on dstv. you do not need to study geography to appreciate to grab the message. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 9:42pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: i know you can refute anything for the sake of refuting even with facts presenting to you. most of atheists could not examine Bible critically before you come to your philosophical conclusion. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 9:54pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:Like I Said I Know A Desert When I See One!! |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:What Of When Jesus "Work" On The Sabbath Was That Also A Tradition Or A Law!?? |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 10:05pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: do you believe Bible as words of God? if you do i can continue discussion. you guys just argue aimlessly online. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 10:06pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:smh |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Nobody: 10:31pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
joyandfaith:Now U Are Evading?? Run!! I Don't Cause Its The World Of Men But U Are The One Who Believes Its The Word Of "God" So U Are The One To Do The "PROVING" U Could Keep Evading My Question Without Answering Them U Know Y I Will Win?? LIKE U Just Noticed Now The Bible "Word Of God" Contradict Its Self So Bad...And Don't Think I Haven't Study The Bible Cause I have And I Do Understand It A 100% |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 1:35am On Jul 01, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: i have replied ur qns but you keep twisting thing. i do not have time for internet arquement. if one on one, fine. read my response between lines you will see answer to ur qns. you understand Bible 100%? Bible never contradict itself and you think so because ur understanding of Bible is wrong. this trend is not about Bible but flood and ark. i ve told you the truth about great deluge. i am not expected you to believe and you cannot force ur opinion on others by ridiculing Bible. the problem with atheists is that they are looking evidences to back up their belief or find faults in bible. "it takes even more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God or Bible"- anonymous atheism cannot provide answers to big life questions. i will recommend these books for you 1.Bible-God's Word or Man 2. Mankind Search for God 3.is there a creator who cared about you? 4. was life created? 5. Origin of life- five questions worth answering. 6. what does the Bible really teachL if you want copies i can send them to you free or contact any of jehovah witnesses in area. greetings for free copies. you may visit www.jw.org for free downloads or requests. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by joyandfaith: 2:21am On Jul 01, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: read very well. if there is disapproved tradition there must be approved or accepted ones. what is tradition? what is law? |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Image123(m): 2:07pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
joyandfaith: We are saying the same thing except for the portion striked out. Are Faith and Reason Incompatible?Brother abi na sister, i do not have the time currently for back and forths with links, a lot on my plate sorry. The person i addressed has read my address, thank you. |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by HardMirror(m): 5:53pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
joyandfaith:So why can't we find some penguins in the northern hemisphere? At least the distance is shorter than going all the way to the south. Do you know how many years it would take a clumpsy penguin to walk to the southern hemisphere? It would have reproduced so much that many penguins would have gone north instead and some even stay back in Mesopotemia. How come no kangaroos in africa even though they would thrive well here? |
Re: The Truth About Ark Of Noah: Response to Hardmirror by Image123(m): 9:28pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: You're still on this rant? i thought i told you earlier that penguins are aquatic animals. Anyway, enjoy the sand, you need it.
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