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Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
A muslim visits you or is hosting a radio program and goes "Salam wa ilekum" when he/she can easily and more understandably say "peace be unto you". Why is this so? Is it a religious tenet for Muslims to speak in Arabic? 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by druxy(m): 5:28pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
I can say its like the official language.... 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by kishimi8(m): 5:40pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
0rex:Using the language in which the holy book was revealed help to curb the loss of the message due to translation errors. Arabic is a language with so many nuances that translation or transliteration is hardly 100%correct. So use of the language. Is encouraged but not compulsory. Only compulsory when praying salat. Not compulsory when you wanna talk to God directly, here a language you best understand is better. 210 Likes 10 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
kishimi8:Ok. Thanks for the insight. Modified: I have been locked out of this thread because it has been moved to Islam section in which I can't make posts except I accept some unacceptable conditions. Hence, i can not reply anyone quoting me, sorry. 33 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
druxy:Just like their lingua franca abi? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by jcross19: 8:23pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
Allah does not hear any other language than arabic. 42 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jun 30, 2016 |
jcross19:Seriously? 37 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by jcross19: 3:14am On Jul 01, 2016 |
0rex:yes that's why they believe that their language is inferior and allah can't hear it. 30 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 01, 2016 |
0rex: Dont mind him/her. He/she is some anti Muslim crusader. And not knowledgeable, it seems. What kishimi8 said is correct. 60 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 12:45pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Farmerforlife:I got that from his/her last post. Thanks. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 12:45pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
kishimi8:Is it the words that matter or what the word means? And what exactly is the point in greeting someone in a language they don't understand? 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by kishimi8(m): 12:55pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Reyginus: How did you get into their heads to know if they don't understand the greeting. A greeting which that are taught from childhood. But wait o them force you to follow them speak Arabic? Or if they speak the Arabic close to you you go die? Talk about hate smh. I tire for people o., 73 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
kishimi8:I'm talking of somebody greeting audience back home on a Radio Station. I listen to radio and I don't get the language so what's the point of the greeting to me? Or is the greeting not meant for me too? It would have been better an intelligent if you answered my question like you did to the username above. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
What I can deduce is that when Arabic is spoken, the message is only for the Muslims. That means other non-muslims are technically irrelevant and ignored. 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by kishimi8(m): 2:00pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Reyginus:Who is the persons target audience? In what language was the program being broadcasted? Where exactly is backhome? The presenter who used the Islamic greeting did he supplant it with an English or other language greeting? 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 2:05pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Reyginus:There are two reasons for the Arabic. First, Islam is universal. I can enter any mosque between the Arctic and Antartica, and I will be able to join the prayer with perfect understanding. I can also look for any scholar and make my needs known to him, whether he is Chinese or Venezuelan. It brings unity among Muslims. Second, any language, uses subtle innuendos, meanings and implications, which are lost on translation because each translator will translate according to his/her own understanding. You may understand 'kick the bucket' to mean death, another person may understand it to actually mean kicking a bucket. If you are both translators, we now have two different translations..., so a judge acting on one translation may sentence the criminal to death, while the other may sentence the same criminal to kicking a bucket around... this is just a very basic example. The Quran is a Book of laws and guidance. It should not be misunderstood. Even though we have it in the original Arabic, look at how many people still, deliberately or ignorantly, misunderstand it... ISIS, Boko Haram, different sects, etc. Imagine to what extent it will be lost if the Arabic was not even available. The Christian Bible contains almost no law to follow, yet the fact that the original Hebrew/ Armaic in which it was written is lost today, has led to thousands of different views on the only real aspect of religion spoken of in the NT; theology. Therefore you have trinitarians with hundreds of different concepts of the natures of God, Jesus and the Holy spirit, you have monotheists,also with different concepts, you have some who attribute divinity to more than the trinity....etc. While Islam does have its own sects, just a cursory knowledge of the meaning of the Quran in its original language will quickly show sectarial right from wrong...barring rank stubborness of course. That is why Arabic is important to our faith, and why we learn Arabic if we want to acquire religious knowledge. On a final note, every Muslim in this world can greet every other Muslim with 'Assalam alaykum' and bond that way. It is very useful in Hajj, when you meet all nationalities, and that is the only common spoken word (said with a broad smile) between you. We Muslims love it that way. It is why we even greet perfect strangers who look Muslim. 207 Likes 16 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 2:09pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
0rex: Broadly speaking, yes. We do not seek to impose our religion on others, contrary to widespread belief. Our lectures are intended to increase the knowledge of our brothers and sisters in Islam. 25 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by kishimi8(m): 2:41pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Farmerforlife: Perfect response. Sums everything up nicely. Thanks for this reply. 44 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
kishimi8:English. The target was both Muslims and Non Muslims listening. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 9:30pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Farmerforlife:Universal? But I don't understand Arabic. How best could I get the message? 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by kishimi8(m): 12:36am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Reyginus:u have not answered all questions |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 5:41am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Reyginus: You are not Muslim. 21 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 7:13am On Jul 02, 2016 |
kishimi8:Am I suppose to answer the questions I asked? |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 7:14am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Farmerforlife:Is the preaching and greetings for only Muslims? |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by kishimi8(m): 9:10am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Reyginus:For in the questions lie your answer. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 10:40am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Reyginus: Yes, I said that earlier. 8 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jul 03, 2016 |
kishimi8:Lol. You can tell that to a new born baby. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jul 03, 2016 |
Farmerforlife:Wow! So how does Islam get converts? |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 3:42pm On Jul 03, 2016 |
Reyginus: Hard as it may seem to believe, we are not really interested in getting converts, though we are happy when someone becomes Muslim. In Islam, each person has his own relationship with his Lord, and the Quran acknowledges that not everyone will be a Muslim. Also, there is practically nothing I can gain from you being a Muslim, so there is no motivation for me to spend my time trying to convert you. Do you see knowledgeable Muslims going house to house with bells and tracts? Most reverts (because we believe that everyone is born in submission to the Will of God, therefore they just come back to the true faith) to Islam are those who study Islam on their own, either out of curiosity or to fight it, or to try to debate with Muslims ( that is why a number of evangelists revert); or those who live among Muslims, like the way of life and become Muslims. 87 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jul 03, 2016 |
Farmerforlife:What about the few Muslims who preach on Christian and Moslem neighborhoods. Are there actions not Islamic? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jul 03, 2016 |
And what do you mean when you say you'd gained nothing from trying to convert me? I believe all religious aims are humanistic. When you see a boy trying to fall into a ditch do you leave him alone? 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Talk In Arabic? by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jul 03, 2016 |
Reyginus: I dont know who they are preaching to, or what their intentions are, so I cannot venture to guess whether they are right or wrong. Islam prohibits disturbing one's neighbours, so much so that the prophet (ﷺ) said in a hadith that if you want to knock a nail in your own wall, you must take permission from your neighbour. Sadly, some Muslims follow the footsteps of christians, and take it as a personal duty to convert others. Personally, I would never approach a non muslim to talk to him about anything concerning Islam, unless he/she personally and deliberately asked me questions, as you are doing, or if I see someone say something wrong about Islam on a public forum, then I can correct it if I think it is worth correcting. 58 Likes 7 Shares |
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