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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by TalkingBird: 9:51am On Jul 26, 2016
emmadejust:
Aluminum doors for toilets

Its have advantage over china toilet doors which when it spoil it doesn't have maintenance values.

What is the cost of this doors?
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Cornerstone001: 10:37am On Jul 26, 2016
mufutau55:


I gather from investigations and inquiry that sub-frames are needed from imported wooden doors, but not for internal steel doors.
Our local wooden doors only need real frames, because that is what I have used in the past... but I stand corrected.

Hajji M.


Oga Hajji,you are right cool
Meanwhile, click the link https://www.nairaland.com/2997673/buy-standard-security-doors-wooden for your quality Turkey doors at affordable prices.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by tonygee1(m): 11:02am On Jul 26, 2016
let me book a space here, cos dis is my Field
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by eromspete(m): 11:52am On Jul 26, 2016
Doors serve different functions and there are standard code of practice (ISO, NFPA, ANSI, BSI, EN) that should be consulted during design, material selection, production and installation of doors and supporting frames as per project specification requirements.

Door specialist na job title o. The man dey rake in multi millions of Naira as monthly salary for international projects.. cool
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by emmadejust(m): 12:31pm On Jul 26, 2016
TalkingBird:

What is the cost of this doors?
price rate varies from profiles/accessories attachment 17-20k
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by dadaisbae: 1:49pm On Jul 26, 2016
Please kindly clear my doubts...Will the inner plastering of the building comes first before installing doors or is the other way round?

Thank
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by richling77(m): 2:14pm On Jul 26, 2016
I am into Interior designs and building finishings. I will only talk about an appropriate toilet and bathroom doors that comes in both 2.5 and 3ft. It's a steel wooden door. No corrosion, no green algae formation over the years as we experience on just wood materials doors. You can embrace this and you will love it. Specified kitchen doors available also as well as good quality room and entrance doors from Turkey.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 6:34pm On Jul 26, 2016
mozel247:
Did u mean archtrate or suffrage..? Even achitracte is not more than 15k per one.


Please, could you educate us on the differences between archtrate or suffrage? If possible with pictures.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 6:49pm On Jul 26, 2016
diordaves:


How big is the project? Why the hefty cost outlay?

We used 168 subframes.The house is a total of 14 apartments. 12 of 3 bedroom flats and 2 of 2 bedroom flats.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 6:51pm On Jul 26, 2016
dadaisbae:
Please kindly clear my doubts...Will the inner plastering of the building comes first before installing doors or is the other way round?

Thank

From the little I know, plaster before fixing the doors. But if using subframes, install subframes during plastering,.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jul 26, 2016
richling77:
I am into Interior designs and building finishings. I will only talk about an appropriate toilet and bathroom doors that comes in both 2.5 and 3ft. It's a steel wooden door. No corrosion, no green algae formation over the years as we experience on just wood materials doors. You can embrace this and you will love it. Specified kitchen doors available also as well as good quality room and entrance doors from Turkey.


can you mail examples of such doors,pictures and prices to teebawse8@gmail.com ,will really appreciate it if you can,thanks in advance
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 7:37pm On Jul 26, 2016
ANBAKO:
Hajji @mufutau55, it's on FP. Sure this is a thread that people are waiting for. Please we want contributions from experts.

Do good for good to come your way

Oh! No.

Hajji M.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 7:40pm On Jul 26, 2016
richling77:
I am into Interior designs and building finishings. I will only talk about an appropriate toilet and bathroom doors that comes in both 2.5 and 3ft. It's a steel wooden door. No corrosion, no green algae formation over the years as we experience on just wood materials doors. You can embrace this and you will love it. Specified kitchen doors available also as well as good quality room and entrance doors from Turkey.

So those doors comes with frame? Is there any other frames needed or just install and plaster into the wall? How much each. Thanks.

Hajji M.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 7:46pm On Jul 26, 2016
WeldHome:

I only know about locally fabricated doors and will talk about that. Now, locally fabricated doors range between 22 - 35k for single doors. I'm going to post from my spreadsheet and experience now..
Locally fabricated doors comes with various kinds of steel materials, depending on the one used by your welder, the prices could be high or low.

WeldHome... as you leave useful information like this, you should also leave your contact info at the end of your message.
Please edit the message and leave your contact info for those who might need your service. Thank you.

Hajji M.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by ANBAKO: 9:39pm On Jul 26, 2016
WeldHome:



I only know about locally fabricated doors and will talk about that. Now, locally fabricated doors range between 22 - 35k for single doors. I'm going to post from my spreadsheet and experience now..

Locally fabricated doors comes with various kinds of steel materials, depending on the one used by your welder, the prices could be high or low.

1. When single 2 by 2 inches tubings (thin sections) are used as sub frame, with plain steel plates of 1.5mm thickness, expect that to be the lowest quality and this one doest look so good. It's price could range between 22-24k depending on the welder.

2. When plates of 1mm are folded and used as sub-frame, you have a finer design and then the quality of the frame becomes better than that of number 1.

3. Now when different types of tubings (eg, 2 by 2 inches and 1 by 2 inches) to form a frame, especially if such tunings are of thicker sections, you have a strong and classy looking sub-frame that can be used for any type of door (wooden, aluminium, steel, etc). You can't get this kind of frame from just any welder, because we are only a few that does this type.

4. Now the type of door plate also matters a lot. If one is going for strength alone, then plain plates of 2mm or 2.5mm (hardly used for doors but rather for gates) can be used. But if strength and design are required, some predesigned plates are used by welders to make such. This predesigned plates comes in different sizes and types. Some are called China white and has some kind of silvery color if not yet completely rusted (avoid this type) and comes in 1.5mm and 2mm thickness. The darker plates have better quality and doesn't rust easily like the China white. Generally, designed plate doors are more expensive than checkered plate doors while checkered plate doors are more expensive than plain plate doors.

5. If also you want to patronize your local welders, ensure that their doors are precoated with red oxide before main painting. This is because most welders see this as "waste of paint" because they don't know the importance of red oxide.

6. Local steel doors are as strong as the the foreign ones but the foreign ones have better designs. Also, just like trusses (roof trusses also called roofing frames), steel doors are better than wooden doors and last longer in service.

I will post type of doors and their prices (based our prices) on this thread.

Single door with 6" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N29,000)
Single door with 9" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N30,000)
Double doors with 6" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N36,000)
Double doors with 9" pan frame/2mm plain plate (N37,000)
Single door 2 by 2 tube frame/2mm plain plate (N24,500)
Double door with 2 by 2 tube frame/2mm plain plate (N34,500)

Prices for special frames and design plate
Top quality 6 inches frame = N9,000
Lower quality 6inches frame with thin tunings = N6,000
Top quality design plate = N9,500
Lower quality design plate = N7,500

Thanks you so much for this great piece. I, IMO, think you have done justice to this topic.

I want to mentioned and elaborate on some few things that you mentioned here and ask further picture

Last week, I went around "scouting" for doors including local manufacturers/fabricators. I did not see any that used a primer(red oxide). All of them just paint directly is very evident as most has started showing sign of corrosion due to improper painting procedures

Can you please clarify what you mean by single and double door? This is because I know my doors by their sizes - 7ft x 3ft, 7ft x 4ft. What is the relationship between these definitions?

What is the financial implication of using checker plate (hope I get that right) as against the plain plate mentioned above?

What type (thickness) of 2" x 2" tubing (square pipe) will be used for last 2 doors above?

Finally can there be discount if I am ordering 20pcs?

Any private info can sent to anbako123@gmail.com
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WeldHome: 10:45pm On Jul 26, 2016
[quote author=ANBAKO post=47916387]

Thanks you so much for this great piece. I, IMO, think you have done justice to this topic.

you are welcomed sir

I want to mentioned and elaborate on some few things that you mentioned here and ask further picture

Last week, I went around "scouting" for doors including local manufacturers/fabricators. I did not see any that used a primer(red oxide). All of them just paint directly is very evident as most has started showing sign of corrosion due to improper painting procedures

As a graduate of metallurgical and materials engineer (graduated top of my class too), I know how important it is to put corrosion into consideration in any build, as long as the materials in question is steel. But I found it amazingly silly that a man I learnt how to weld from (a roadside welder), even with several years of experience still don't think it wise to apply red oxide first before the actual painting..

Can you please clarify what you mean by single and double door? This is because I know my doors by their sizes - 7ft x 3ft, 7ft x 4ft. What is the relationship between these definitions?

You're actually correct. I used double in layman's term. The double door I meant is actually 7 by 4ft (has one full door and an attachment-smaller size door) and opens in different directions.

What is the financial implication of using checker plate (hope I get that right) as against the plain plate mentioned above?

truth is, checkered plates have almost same strength levels as plain plate steels of same thickness but checkered plates are usually more expensive because of the check designs placed on them during rolling/production. Nonetheless, I'd prefer working with plain plate because it'll give me the opportunity to draw a simple design myself, on such doors. Note: I haven't tried drawing such designs before but I believe that even my first trial will produce something beautiful, since I not only have good artistic skills but good autoCAD/Engineering drawing skills. I'm being as sincere as I can because I believe sincerity is the building block of a good business relationship

What type (thickness) of 2" x 2" tubing (square pipe) will be used for last 2 doors above?

For this very door, the subframe (between the door and the wall) will have thick tubing but the frame holding the plate [fram between subframe and plate] will have thin tubings. Thing is, if you want to have only thick tubings all round your doors, you will spend a lot. Although it's the best if you have the cash.

Finally can there be discount if I am ordering 20pcs?

I'm very sorry I won't be able to provide you discount simply because what I stated is actually the lowest price I can go for such work. Reasons are, the hike in prices of raw materials and even the desiel used for the job, not forgetting the time and materials we put into doing the extra work, red oxide coating. I can actually give you simple designs (using grinding machine) on your plates to compensate for the no-discount offer..

Any private info can sent to anbako123@gmail.com

Will defintely contact you
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WeldHome: 10:52pm On Jul 26, 2016
mufutau55:


WeldHome... as you leave useful information like this, you should also leave your contact info at the end of your message.
Please edit the message and leave your contact info for those who might need your service. Thank you.

Hajji M.

I have done that and..
Thank you sir!
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by ANBAKO: 11:16pm On Jul 26, 2016
[quote author=WeldHome post=47918184][/quote]

Per checkered plate, I agree that they have the same mechanical properties as the plain plates.

The reason why I prefer the checkered plate is the aesthetic that it brings to fabricated works especially door...hence I still stand by my choice of checkered plate.

I also do not like the designs done with grinding machine because its doesn't look real due to it manual approach. The contours, the depth of the "trough" and subsequently the width and the straightness are inconsistent and not neat ( at least all that have seen). This due to application of different "pressure" on the grinding machine and it's disk

I still do not understand you answer about the 2"x2" frame/door.

Can you upload a picture and use it to expatiate on the question.

Thanks
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WeldHome: 11:44pm On Jul 26, 2016
ANBAKO:


Per checkered plate, I agree that they have the same mechanical properties as the plain plates.

The reason why I prefer the checkered plate is the aesthetic that it brings to fabricated works especially door...hence I still stand by my choice of checkered plate.

I also do not like the designs done with grinding machine because its doesn't look real due to it manual approach. The contours, the depth of the "trough" and subsequently the width and the straightness are inconsistent and not neat ( at least all that have seen). This due to application of different "pressure" on the grinding machine and it's disk

I still do not understand you answer about the 2"x2" frame/door.

Can you upload a picture and use it to expatiate on the question.

Thanks

You know, there're basically two types of thicknesses mostly sold for door fabrication. One is thin and the other thick. In such case, I'll use the thick 2by2 for subframe. Nonetheless, I will use a thin 3 by 1½in pipe as the plate, door handle holder/inner frame. Also, if what you need is checkered plate, then all you need do is, add a thousand naira - N1,000 (difference in price between both plates is N2,000 - N2,500 and a full plate can make two doors) to the price I gave above and that gives you the price difference between a plain plate door and checkered plate door.

Sorry, I presently don't have pic of any door with a 2 by 2 sub frame but I will use a pic with a folded plate (popularly called pan frame by roadside welders) to explain. From the pic below, assume that the sub frame is a 2by2 (which will be done using a thick tube) which will go into the wall, going inward, immediately after the sub frame, lies a 3 by 1½ inches tubing which we'll use thin section to fabricate for that price (N25,500 and N35,500 - checkered plate) If you want thick tubing all thru, then you will need to pay a little extra.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by mufutau55(m): 1:12am On Jul 27, 2016
WeldHome:

I have done that and..
Thank you sir!

Do you have WhatsApp number for sending photos and chat, or same number?

Hajji M.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by WeldHome: 4:43am On Jul 27, 2016
mufutau55:


Do you have WhatsApp number for sending photos and chat, or same number?

Hajji M.


My whatsapp contact is 07087144519. Sorry I made a mistake initially when I typed it but have corrected the mistake. Thank you.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by richling77(m): 5:43am On Jul 27, 2016
mufutau55:


So those doors comes with frame? Is there any other frames needed or just install and plaster into the wall? How much each. Thanks.

Hajji M.

In fact, perfect door for the phrase "turnkey". Install and you are good to go. Nothing more.
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by n3xt(m): 4:24pm On Jul 27, 2016
Great thread! Good discussion on doors. Well done @ WeldHome.

Following with keen interest. Meanwhile, here are few doors from my archive.

Subframes and installation pics

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by n3xt(m): 4:26pm On Jul 27, 2016
The Locally made wooden door with wooden frame.

Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by n3xt(m): 4:27pm On Jul 27, 2016
Parts of a wooden door.

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by n3xt(m): 4:29pm On Jul 27, 2016
Imported Wooden Doors

Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by danowena: 4:47pm On Jul 27, 2016
n3xt:
Imported Wooden Doors

Are those MDF Or HDF?
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by n3xt(m): 4:57pm On Jul 27, 2016
danowena:


Are those MDF Or HDF?

First set of pic is MDF while the last set of materials made to achieve a natural wood finish (moisture and weather friendly)
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by emmadejust(m): 7:16am On Jul 28, 2016
ola20ng:
Good morning people. My toilets are very small in size, so i am planning to go for doors that open outwards to create more space in the toilets. Is that possible? and is there any kind of such doors?

Aluminum door will serve .... Will be make to open outward ......

Outside hinge opening

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by ola20ng(m): 8:10am On Jul 28, 2016
emmadejust:


Aluminum door will serve .... Will be make to open outward ......

Outside hinge opening

Thanks. How much does one cost and where do u base?
Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by emmadejust(m): 8:17am On Jul 28, 2016
ola20ng:

Thanks. How much does one cost and where do u base?
price rate 18k .......20k

get your measurement

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Re: Doors - Discussions About Doors - Qualities, Sizes, Types, Installations Etc. by write2obi(m): 9:03am On Jul 28, 2016
Hajji M. Hope i'm not late for class grin .
Here to learn about doors.

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