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From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 9:34pm On Aug 27, 2016
What is the best proof that God exists?

For hundreds of years, people from all walks of life have debated whether God exists, or if He’s just a fictional character.

I used to think that God existed, then I changed my mind to thinking that He doesn’t exist , and now I know that He does exist.

When I posted my testimony about how I went from being a Christian, to being an atheist, and then became a Christian again, I had a few atheists who privately messaged me to ask about my story.

Now I’m happy to share that I’ve made some new atheist friends, and we’re talking back and forth about whether there is enough proof that God exists.

So in this article, I’m going to share with you my opinion on what is the best proof that God exists.

This article is going to be the logical argument for the existence God.

At a later time, I’ll be sharing my opinion on what is the best scientific proof that supports the existence of God.

While I won’t be using the Bible to prove the existence of God, it would be beneficial to know that the Bible says that God has given us two witnesses so we can know that there is a God.

1. Witness #1 – Creation
By taking a look at the world around us, we can see that it was designed and created by a supreme Being.

“For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.” - Romans 1:20


2. Witness #2 – Conscience
The fact that there are universal morals that we all share show that we all have a conscience, and that God is the one who wrote what is right and wrong in our hearts.

“They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. And this is the message I proclaim— that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life.” – Romans 2:15-16


If you’re on the fence about whether God exists or not, then I believe that answering this question is the single most important question of your life.

Why?
The implications of whether God exists or not are HUGE:
1. It affects your view of life here on earth
2. It determines how you live your life
3. It affects your purpose in life and your desitny
4. It determines the source of your morality
5. If there’s an alternate dimension where there is a real heaven and a real hell, then you’ll want to make sure that you choose heaven.



[size=15pt]In My Opinion, the Best Proof That God Exists is This[/size]
The cosmological argument is an argument for the existence of God that says that God is the First Cause that created the universe (source: Wikipedia).

It’s also known as the argument from first cause, the causal argument, or the argument from existence.
The argument below is a variant of the cosmological argument, and it states:
1. Premise 1 – Something exists
2. Premise 2 – Nothing cannot create something
3. Conclusion – Something must have always existed



[size=15pt]Explanation of the Cosmological Argument[/size]

1. Something Exists
This is a very basic premise that almost everyone agrees on.
In our case, that something is the universe. There are some people who would argue that we don’t know if we, or anything else for that matter, really does exist.
These people argue that maybe the life that we’re living now is not real. Maybe we’re plugged into a machine somewhere, and dreaming up the life that we are living, like as in, The Matrix (movie).
This isn’t the only explanation that these people give for an alternate reality. Supporters of this argument will put forth other explanations for the possibility of life not being real, and for living in a dream-state.
This idea isn’t anything new, and has been around for hundreds of years.

I don’t believe this theory to be true, and I believe in the counter-argument that was given by Descartes.
René Descartes, was a French philosopher and mathematician, who made the statement, “Cogito ergo sum,” which is translated, “I think, therefore I am.”

This means that thinking about one’s existence is proof of the existence of oneself.
You can read more about Descartes’ cogito ergo sum argument on Wikipedia if you’re interested.

2. Nothing Cannot Create Something
The definition of nothing is no-thing. It isn’t anything, and it doesn’t have the power to do anything.
Nothing can also be defined as the state of non-being.

3. Something Must Have Always Existed
We know that there must have been something that has always existed in order to bring the thing that now exists (the universe), into existence.
If we say this isn’t true, then we’re also saying that it’s possible for the universe to have come from nothing, and we know this is impossible because of premise number two. Anything that has come into existence must have a cause.



[size=15pt]So What is the Something That Must Have Always Existed?[/size]

There are only two options if we’re following the logic given in the cosmological argument.
Either the universe has always existed or Something outside the universe has always existed
Scientific evidence shows us that the universe hasn’t always existed.
Here are some of the evidences that support that the universe did begin at a certain point of time:

1. The Second Law of Thermodynamics
The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that the amount of usable energy in a closed system, like in the case of the universe, is decreasing.
In other words, the amount of usable energy is dying out just like the batteries die in your flashlight.
If a closed system like the universe is in fact running out of energy, then the universe can’t be eternal because a finite amount of energy could never have brought the universe through an eternity of time.

2. The Universe is Expanding
In 1929, Edwin Hubble, made a discovery that the universe is expanding.
Once scientists understood that the universe was expanding, they realized that it would have been smaller in the past.
At some point historically, the entire universe would have been a single point.
This point is what many people refer to as the Big Bang, which is the point when our universe began to exist.

3. The Cosmic Background Radiation
Physics.org describes the Cosmic Background Radiation as, “The left-over heat from the fireball of the Big Bang in which the Universe was born 13.7 billion years ago.”
While the age of the earth is speculation by scientists, most do agree that the Cosmic Background Radiation does point to a finite universe that has a specific age.
So to recap, here’s the cosmological argument which offers proof for the existence of God:
- Something exists (the universe)
- Nothing can’t create something
- Therefore, something must have always existed in order to cause the universe into existence
- The universe didn’t always exist
- Therefore, something outside of the universe must have always existed



[size=15pt]Why God is the Eternal Something (or rather Someone) That Caused the Universe into Existence[/size]
We don’t need to rely on the Bible or on any religion to show that God is the eternal Being who created this universe.

Why?
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We can conclude some things about the Creator of this universe by looking at the world around us.

When we examine the universe, we can conclude that the Creator must be:
- Self-existent
- Timeless
- Non-spatial (exists outside of time, space, and matter)
- Infinitely powerful because He created this vast thing we call the universe
- Supremely intelligent because He created the universe with immaculate precision
- Personal because He chose to convert a state of nothingness into the time-space-material universe (an impersonal force has no ability to make choices)
When we take a look at all of these characteristics, we see that they are the characteristics that are attributed to God.



[size=15pt]Who Created God?[/size]

Atheists usually say that if we follow the logic in the argument, then God must have had a creator too.
I used to bring up this objection to those who believed in God when [url=notashamedofthegospel.com/testimony/peterguirguis/]I was an atheist.[/url]
However, the cosmological argument only states that everything that came into existence must have a cause.

God didn’t come into existence, He always was, is, and will forever be.
The cosmological argument points to the first cause of the universe as Someone that has always existed.
That is a part of the argument.
The argument points that there must be something that did not have a cause.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 9:35pm On Aug 27, 2016
[size=15pt]But Wait, Maybe that Eternal Creator isn’t God[/size]

Most atheists, if they concede that yes, there must be an eternal first cause to the universe, then they’ll say that we don’t know what it is.
They’ll says that science is still making new discoveries every day.
Therefore, they’ll say that there could be other life forms out there that we don’t know about yet, and maybe they are the ones that created the universe.



[size=15pt]God vs. Aliens (other
life forms)
[/size]

The bottom line is that there is no concrete evidence that other life forms exist.
You can tell me about the climate of Mars, or about Kepler-186f , and I’ll again say that there’s no concrete evidence that other life forms exist on those planets or anywhere else.

On the other hand, the evidence for the Christian God is much more concrete.
Why?
When we look at how Christianity spread after the death and resurrection of Jesus, we notice something that’s both fascinating and unique.
This unique thing is that the apostles and early followers of Jesus weren’t just martyred for their faith, most of them were tortured first before they were killed.

This is documented in historical books that are written by authors outside of the Bible, authors such as Josephus and Tertullian.
The reason that the torture and death of the first followers of Jesus is so significant, is because they were tortured for saying that they had witnessed the risen Christ.

You might be thinking, “So what? Hundreds of people die for their beliefs everyday.” But hold on for a just a minute, there’s a huge difference.

Hundreds of people die everyday because they believe that their religion is true.
However, nobody is willing to die for a false testimony.

Did you notice the difference between these two?

If the apostles and early Christians were lying about seeing the risen Christ, then as soon as they would’ve experienced persecution and torture, then surely they would have changed their false testimony.

They would have said, “Sorry, we’re lying about seeing the risen Christ. Please stop torturing us and let us go.”
But none of them withdrew their testimonies, they were tortured until death, and they maintained that they had seen the resurrected Jesus.

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Why would so many people be willing to do die for a false testimony?

Do you know anyone that’s willing to die for giving a false testimony in court?
The answer is no.

That’s why this is one of the most compelling evidences for Christianity being an accurate belief system.



[size=15pt]Wait, a Universe From Nothing is Possible, Says Stephen Hawking, Lawrence Krauss and Others[/size]

Sometimes atheists will bring up M-theory, or the multiverse, citing that it’s possible for a universe to be created from nothing.
M-theory is a theory that says that there’s either an infinite or finite amount of universes.
Since there are so many universes, then one of them must be fine-tuned to sustain life.

In Stephen Hawking’s book, The Grand Design , Hawking Writes, “Because there is a law of gravity, the universe can and will create itself out of nothing. ”

Both Hawking and Lawrence Krauss propose that it’s theoretically possible for the universe to have come from nothing using M-theory, string theory, and quantum physics to do away with God as being the creator.

However, there are major flaws to M-theory, and there are a number of respected physicists who point out these flaws.

Some physicists have gone as far as saying that M-theory isn’t even a science, it’s a pseudoscience.



[size=15pt]Problems With M-Theory and a Multiverse[/size]

1. M-theory requires the law of gravity and gravity is not “nothing.” It’s “something.”
Any supporters of M-theory need to alter the definition of the word “nothing” to support their view.
Nothing is no-thing, it’s the state of non-being.
Scientific laws describe what happens under certain conditions and they need something to work on.

You can be sure that gravity isn’t nothing, it’s something.

2. There is no evidence for a multiverse existing.
There isn’t much to be said here. If there was evidence to support this theory, there wouldn’t be such a debate.
There is no observable evidence for an infinite, or even a finite number of universes existing.

3. When physicists talk about “nothing”, they are talking about a quantum vacuum. But there’s a problem.

A quantum vacuum is not nothing.
A quantum vacuum does have the properties of “something” as Dr. Alexander Vilenkin points out
in this video.

If you’re interested in reading more about M- theory, the multiverse, and related topics, I recommend you check out this article by
Focus.org , or this article by Professor John Lennox.



[size=15pt]What Would the Universe Look like without God?[/size]

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A universe without God wouldn’t exist, and you wouldn’t exist either if there was no God.

This is my belief and personal conviction.
I used to think otherwise [url=notashamedofthegospel.com/testimony/peterguirguis/]when I was an atheist[/url], but now, I have peace knowing that I have a relationship with God, the creator of heaven and earth.
I shared with you my beliefs and I hope its enough to make you look at the evidences objectively.

notashamedofthegospel.com/testimony/peterguirguis/

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 9:36pm On Aug 27, 2016
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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by hopefulLandlord: 10:02pm On Aug 27, 2016
Seriously dude, you need to channel your energy into something better like finding cure for AIDS, ending world hunger etc

But if you're finding true fulfilment in this, pls continue

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 10:09pm On Aug 27, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
Seriously dude, you need to channel your energy into something better like finding cure for AIDS, ending world hunger etc

But if you're finding true fulfilment in this, pls continue
lol.
Other theists are doing a great Job at that. I'm also working towards improving the quality of food products per my Job.

However, If I can post the testimonies of people who through reason found God, and motivate atheists to look at the evidence objectively, why shouldnt I?

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by hopefulLandlord: 10:11pm On Aug 27, 2016
winner01:
lol.
Other theists are doing a great Job at that. I'm also working towards improving the quality of food products per my Job.

However, If I can post the testimonies of people who through reason found God, and motivate atheists to look at the evidence objectively, why shouldnt I?

That's hardly the point though

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 10:13pm On Aug 27, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


That's hardly the point though
You aint seen nothing yet bruv undecided

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by hopefulLandlord: 10:15pm On Aug 27, 2016
winner01:
You aint seen nothing yet bruv undecided

Like I said, if you find this fulfilling, pls continue
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 10:21pm On Aug 27, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Like I said, if you find this fulfilling, pls continue
I'm positive that people whose lives could otherwise be affected by the senselessness of atheists evangelists here would definately benefit from this.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by honourhim: 10:39pm On Aug 27, 2016
winner01:
I'm positive that people whose lives could otherwise be affected by the senselessness of atheists evangelists here would definately benefit from this.

Keep up your good works my brother. Many are being strengthened by it. Some have even confessed it here.

Jesus told Peter- "...and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22;32).

Thats exactly what you are doing my brother. God bless you.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:50pm On Aug 27, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
Seriously dude, you need to channel your energy into something better like finding cure for AIDS, ending world hunger etc

But if you're finding true fulfilment in this, pls continue



From someone who wishes to spend eternity on Nairaland fighting a non existent God ?

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 10:57pm On Aug 27, 2016
honourhim:


Keep up your good works my brother. Many are being strengthened by it. Some have even confessed it here.

Jesus told Peter- "...and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22;32).

Thats exactly what you are doing my brother. God bless you.
Amen. God bless you too my brother.

My prayer is that through this, God can touch the hearts of people who have been/are being affected by individuals who have deliberately chosen the way of destruction.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:59pm On Aug 27, 2016
@ winner01

This is without doubt your one of your best threads on Nairaland .

Good job , may God bless you

Amen .

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 11:12pm On Aug 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
@ winner01

This is without doubt your one of your best threads on Nairaland .

Good job , may God bless you

Amen .
Thanks Bro. I hope it ministers unto the hearts of people who are struggling with doubts.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by Nobody: 11:56pm On Aug 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
@ winner01

This is without doubt your one of your best threads on Nairaland .

Good job , may God bless you

Amen .

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by Nobody: 12:13am On Aug 28, 2016
You write a post that argues for Deism.


Then you try to massage your points into a manner that suits the defition of your particular God and no one else's.

Typical.


People dying for a religion reminds me of a quote by Russell

"Most people will rather die than think. In fact; they do"

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 12:20am On Aug 28, 2016
SirWere:
You write a post that argues for Deism.


Then you try to massage your points into a manner that suits the defition of your particular God and no one else's.

Typical.


People dying for a religion reminds me of a quote by Russell

"Most people will rather die than think. In fact; they do"
It doesn't matter whenever you choose to see only what you want to see.

Thinking is what has been done from generation to generation, its what has got us where we are today.

The few people who think they can usurp human intelligence are in every way similar to cancer. They will remain an angry insignificant few while humanity continues to submit to the divine plan of God.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by Nobody: 12:29am On Aug 28, 2016
winner01:
It doesn't matter whenever you choose to see only what you want to see.
....see only what you want to see....


How so??

Your cosmological argument argues for a God by saying the Universe must have had a start.

It stays remarkably silent on the attributes of this God.



You then (erroneously) linked that Being to YOUR personal God.


A muslim can do this and no one will fault him for doing such.



And hell; we have buddhist matyrs too

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 12:39am On Aug 28, 2016
SirWere:
....see only what you want to see....


How so??

Your cosmological argument argues for a God by saying the Universe must have had a start.

It stays remarkably silent on the attributes of this God.
These do not look like silent attributes:
- Self-existent
- Timeless
- Non-spatial (exists outside of time, space, and matter)
- Infinitely powerful because He created this vast thing we call the universe
- Supremely intelligent because He created the universe with immaculate precision
- Personal because He chose to convert a state of nothingness into the time-space-material universe (an impersonal force has no ability to make choices)

SirWere:


You then (erroneously) linked that Being to YOUR personal God.
The oP made a very strong case for God, a personal being who cares about His creation. Did you even read that? undecided

SirWere:
.
A muslim can do this and no one will fault him for doing such.


And hell; we have buddhist matyrs too
I think I need not reply you. You dont need answers. If you couldnt see where the oP affirmed that people die for their religion and distinguished such from the death of Christ's followers, then there really isnt any need to argue. You obviously saw what you wanted to see.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by realmindz: 7:34am On Aug 28, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


That's hardly the point though

lol, the guy needs help...I think he's fighting a personal battle to keep his faith on check

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by realmindz: 7:37am On Aug 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
@ winner01

This is without doubt your one of your best threads on Nairaland .

Good job , may God bless you

Amen .
and here comes the twin warrior to massage his ego.
Even his most senseless thread must be adored by his praise singer.


@ winner01, I bet he is not being totally honest with u, u get best feedback from critics not this kinda praise singer.

your threads are wack, too long, more wordy than senses, filled with trashes and repetitions.

spend ur time in something more valuable than the book of genealogy of the jews

God may exist is not my contention with you, but ur jewish mythology is all BS, bible tales are BS filled with lies and contradictions.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by Nobody: 7:55am On Aug 28, 2016
Winner01 my able chairman this ministry must move to the permanent site. We are with you and will keep the fire raging. You always amaze me with your threads. Only those who refuse to be objective would not see the points raised and would keep pretending to themselves. Getting ready for Church here as I am in charge of the first service.

When you want ro mention me do so as 4everGod and not 4evergod otherwise I will not get the mention.

God bless you real good.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 8:24am On Aug 28, 2016
realmindz:

and here comes the twin warrior to massage his ego.
Even his most senseless thread must be adored by his praise singer.


@ winner01, I bet he is not being totally honest with u, u get best feedback from critics not this kinda praise singer.

your threads are wack, too long, more wordy than senses, filled with trashes and repetitions.

spend ur time in something more valuable than the book of genealogy of the jews

God may exist is not my contention with you, but ur jewish mythology is all BS, bible tales are BS filled with lies and contradictions.
Congratulations to you. undecided

I guess the thread isn't meant for you then.

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by hopefulLandlord: 8:26am On Aug 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:




From someone who wishes to spend eternity on Nairaland fighting a non existent God ?

If you haven't noticed, I've reduced my posting on Nairaland

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 8:27am On Aug 28, 2016
realmindz:


lol, the guy needs help...I think he's fighting a personal battle to keep his faith on check
Lol.
I studied psychology too, all these simulations wont work on me undecided

I'm giving you the help you need.
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 8:30am On Aug 28, 2016
4everGod:
Winner01 my able chairman this ministry must move to the permanent site. We are with you and will keep the fire raging. You always amaze me with your threads. Only those who refuse to be objective would not see the points raised and would keep pretending to themselves. Getting ready for Church here as I am in charge of the first service.

When you want ro mention me do so as 4everGod and not 4evergod otherwise I will not get the mention.

God bless you real good.
Amen. Happy Sunday to you my brother. I appreciate your support grin God bless you too.
I hope they can look at the facts objectively.
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by hopefulLandlord: 8:33am On Aug 28, 2016
realmindz:


lol, the guy needs help...I think he's fighting a personal battle to keep his faith on check

If he finds fulfilment in this, he should by all means continue
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by Nobody: 8:35am On Aug 28, 2016
winner01:

These do not look like silent attributes:
- Self-existent
- Timeless
- Non-spatial (exists outside of time, space, and matter)
- Infinitely powerful because He created this vast thing we call the universe
- Supremely intelligent because He created the universe with immaculate precision
- Personal because He chose to convert a state of nothingness into the time-space-material universe (an impersonal force has no ability to make choices)

These are the conditional properties that a God must have to exist. They are the conditions that must be filled for a deity to exist.

They don't mention HOW or WHY or IF there are more than one of it. Indeed; we may never know.


And why say he?? The probability of a supreme one being Male (or any gender in fact) is incredibly low.

Per the bold; sayeth who The standard we use to define the age of the universe was always there since the beginning of the universe.
Impersonal forces make impersonal decisions that are translated as humans as punishment, love from the presupposed deities.

A sango worshipper will view lightning as a sign of sango being angry whilst it's simply electron transfer.

Same for the universe.

The oP made a very strong case for God, a personal being who cares about His creation. Did you even read that? undecided
Wow, you mean on this insignifcant little planet we're in; a deity who created the universe; who maintains galaxies far superior to ours; who created uncountable stars and subsquent billions and trillions of planets SOMEHOW still care about our personal decisions
This is narcissim at its peak; the belief that the universe was created FOR us. Very deeply egoistic.


I think I need not reply you. You dont need answers.

My mind is not made up. I'm not sure about the existence of a supreme being but I'm trying my best to seek. Seriously; were my mind made up; I wouldn't attempt to reply
If you couldnt see where the oP affirmed that people die for their religion and distinguished such from the death of Christ's followers, then there really isnt any need to argue. You obviously saw what you wanted to see.
Argument ad Miscericordiam.
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 8:40am On Aug 28, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


If he finds fulfilment in this, he should by all means continue
What fulfilment are you finding about? undecided
That i'm helping atheists talk about atheism who spend their only life talking about religion undecided
What do you mean exactly?
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by youngestland: 8:54am On Aug 28, 2016
intelligent designer lol

6.2 magnitude of earthquake in italy killing lives and destroying properties.

intelligent design cannot create something without following laws of nature this means nature is bigger than him because everything happen naturally and nothing supernatural
you dont create somthing and put it inside a place that will destroy it

christians say god created the sun and earth right this means god determines the component that will make the sun, why dint he create the sun without radiation, in doing so he wont have to put a magnetic field around the earth that is tearing out ,

he would have said let there be earth without earthquakes tornados volcanoes etc
but no the earth has natural disasters because it was formed by a process and with time these disasters will show up this is because no intelligent designer knows the right components to form a peaceful earth, nature just took its cause

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Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by realmindz: 9:03am On Aug 28, 2016
winner01:
Lol.
I studied psychology too, all these simulations wont work on me undecided

I'm giving you the help you need.
winner01 my good friend, it's no simulation...check ur threads. They are all about atheism, something is wrong
Re: From Christian Family To Atheism To Jesus Christ: My Explanations by winner01(m): 9:13am On Aug 28, 2016
realmindz:

winner01 my good friend, it's no simulation...check ur threads. They are all about atheism, something is wrong
All these things dont work on me bro. Ill give you your reply when im back from service. Bless.

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