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Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 7:41pm On Aug 28, 2016
I know you must be a lover of maths! Thanks for viewing...
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I don't know where I'm getting this wrong. Please correct me if it's wrong:
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Quest.: Solve the following:
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12m + 12n = -7 ............ (i)
4m - 3n = 7 ............ (ii)
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What I did:
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Multiply (i) by 1 and (ii) by 4
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12m + 12n = -7 ........... (iii)
16m - 12n = 28 (iv)
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Add (iii) and (iv) to eliminate n
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28m = 21 ............ (v)
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Divide both sides of (v) to isolate m
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m = 21/28
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I stopped there. But when I checked the answer on the book, it was reading a different thing. Please, where am I getting it wrong? I am open to learning.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by hardbody: 7:48pm On Aug 28, 2016
Work backwards from the answer.....
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by chiefolododo(m): 7:51pm On Aug 28, 2016
By the power vested in me I declare you right

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 7:56pm On Aug 28, 2016
12m + 12n = -7 .....I
4m - 3n = 7.....ii
u attempted employing elimination method, bt u missed at this point. just continue from here.
(4)X (12m + 12n = - 7 )
(12)X (4m - 3n = 7 )

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Donovela(m): 8:06pm On Aug 28, 2016
Laive:
I know you must be a lover of maths! Thanks for viewing...
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I don't know where I'm getting this wrong. Please correct me if it's wrong:
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Quest.: Solve the following:
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12m + 12n = -7 ............ (i)
4m - 3n = 7 ............ (ii)
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What I did:
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Multiply (i) by 1 and (ii) by 4
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12m + 12n = -7 ........... (iii)
16m - 12n = 28 (iv)
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Add (iii) and (iv) to eliminate n
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28m = 21 ............ (v)
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Divide both sides of (v) to isolate m
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m = 21/28
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I stopped there. But when I checked the answer on the book, it was reading a different thing. Please, where am I getting it wrong? I am open to learning.
You multiplied wrongly, it should be
12m+12n=-7
4m-3n=7
multiply eqn 1 by 3 and eqn 2 by 12
36m+36n=-21
48m-36n=84...I guess you can carry on from there m should be =1

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 8:40pm On Aug 28, 2016
ruxxz:
12m + 12n = -7 .....I
4m - 3n = 7.....ii
u attempted employing elimination method, bt u missed at this point. just continue from here.
(4)X (12m + 12n = - 7 )
(12)X (4m - 3n = 7 )
48m + 48n = -28 ........ (i)
48m - 36n = 84 ........ (ii)
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Subtracting:
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84n = - 112
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Isolating n:
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n = - 112/84
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n = - 7/6
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Is that what you mean? If yes, it's different from what is in the book here.

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 8:43pm On Aug 28, 2016
hardbody:
Work backwards from the answer.....
Make it clear, please...
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 8:55pm On Aug 28, 2016
Donovela:
You multiplied wrongly, it should be
12m+12n=-7
4m-3n=7
multiply eqn 1 by 3 and eqn 2 by 12
36m+36n=-21
48m-36n=84...I guess you can carry on from there m should be =1
Yeah, but the answer in the book here is fractional. Try using the substitution method as well, your assumed answer might be different.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 9:01pm On Aug 28, 2016
Mr laive.
I solved it and this was my answers.


m=3/4
N=-4/3


check the text book. . .
if I'm right I will solve it here. but if wrong someone should help us out.




*****modified*****
since you said it's correct lemme show ya'll how I solved it. . . .


12m + 12n = -7. (×1)
4m - 3n = 7. (×3)
__________________________
12m + 12n = -7
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12m + 9n = 21
__________________________
12n + 9n = -7-21
__________________________
21n = -28

therefore N = -28/21 = -4/3.


now to get M substitute N=-4/3 in any of the first equation. let's take

4m - 3n = 7
4m - 3(-4/3) = 7
_________________________

4m +12/3 = 7

_________________________

4m + 4 = 7

_________________________

4m = 7 - 4

4m = 3

therefore M = 3/4.

laive see am o.

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 9:05pm On Aug 28, 2016
ERUDITEE:
Mr laive. I solved it and this was my answers.

m=3/4 N=-4/3
check the text book. . . if I'm right I will solve it here. but if wrong someone should help us out.
Exaaaaaaaaaaaactly! Wow! Please, I am hungry to know how you did it. Care to share it??
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 9:57pm On Aug 28, 2016
Laive:

48m + 48n = -28 ........ (i)
48m - 36n = 84 ........ (ii)
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Subtracting:
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84n = - 112
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Isolating n:
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n = - 112/84
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n = - 7/6
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Is that what you mean? If yes, it's different from what is in the book here.
subtracting
84n = -112
n = -112/84
= -56/42
= - 8/6
n = - 4/3

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 10:54pm On Aug 28, 2016
ERUDITEE:
Mr laive.
I solved it and this was my answers.


m=3/4
N=-4/3


check the text book. . .
if I'm right I will solve it here. but if wrong someone should help us out.




*****modified*****
since you said it's correct lemme show ya'll how I solved it. . . .


12m + 12n = -7. (×1)
4m - 3n = 7. (×3)
__________________________
12m + 12n = -7
-
12m + 9n = 21
__________________________
12n + 9n = -7-21
__________________________
21n = -28

therefore N = -28/21 = -4/3.


now to get M substitute N=-4/3 in any of the first equation. let's take

4m - 3n = 7
4m - 3(-4/3) = 7
_________________________

4m +12/3 = 7

_________________________

4m + 4 = 7

_________________________

4m = 7 - 4

4m = 3

therefore M = 3/4.

laive see am o.

Thanks a lot! Na dat 21/28 make me lost. It's been long, please remind me. Sounds silly, right? That's how I learn...
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 10:58pm On Aug 28, 2016
ruxxz:
subtracting
84n = -112
n = -112/84
= -56/42
= - 8/6
n = - 4/3
OMG! I wish I can slap myself to your hearing! Thanks a million. But na that 21/28 dey give me small headache. Sounds silly! But help remind me. Primary 2 stuff sha... Na learning time oh.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 11:07pm On Aug 28, 2016
Laive:

OMG! I wish I can slap myself to your hearing! Thanks a million. But na that 21/28 dey give me small headache. Sounds silly! But help remind me. Primary 2 stuff sha... Na learning time oh.
No qualms boss. Maths cud b funny atimes. Basic operations hav cost us valuable marks severally.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by jessetom(m): 12:18am On Aug 29, 2016
Try guassian elimination method
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 1:12am On Aug 29, 2016
jessetom:
Try guassian elimination method
Care to share?? Ready to learn...
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 7:14am On Aug 29, 2016
Thank you all for your wonderful contributions, especially Chiefolododo, Ruxxz, Eruditee and the rest who "Liked" & "Shared".
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I just remembered yesterday that to simplify 21/28, I would have just looked for a HCF which is 7.
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21/7 = 3 and
28/7 = 4
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=> m = 3/4
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Thank you once again... I guess we can always solve subsequent maths problems together.

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by jessetom(m): 7:38am On Aug 29, 2016
Laive:

Care to share?? Ready to learn...

It's a simple matrix method.

You just have to reduce the augmented matrix to Echelon form by elementary row transformations. It's really fun. You can use it for higher order systems of linear equations.

But if you mind, try crammer rule
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 8:16am On Aug 29, 2016
Laive:
Thank you all for your wonderful contributions, especially Chiefolododo, Ruxxz, Eruditee and the rest who "Liked" & "Shared".
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I just remembered yesterday that to simplify 21/28, I would have just looked for a HCF which is 7.
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21/7 = 3 and
28/7 = 4
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=> m = 3/4
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Thank you once again... I guess we can always solve subsequent maths problems together.


that's good, keep bringing them.
we are all learning.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 10:23am On Aug 29, 2016
jessetom:


It's a simple matrix method.

You just have to reduce the augmented matrix to Echelon form by elementary row transformations. It's really fun. You can use it for higher order systems of linear equations.

But if you mind, try crammer rule
Wow! Quite strange to me... wink
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 11:14am On Aug 29, 2016
Another one here o!
I don't know where I'm wrong. It's still simultaneous equations:
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Que.1
xy = 21 .......... (i)
x + 5y = 22 ..... (ii)
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Que.2
x/2 - y/5 = 1 ...... (i)
y - x/3 = 8 ......... (ii)
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What I tried:
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Que.1
From (ii), make x the subject
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x = 22 - 5y ...... (iii)
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Substitute (iii) for x in (i)
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=> y(22 - 5y) = 21
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=> 22y - 5y2 = 21
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Rearranging the quadratic equation:
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-5y2 + 22y -21 = 0
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Factorizing the quadratic equation:
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=> (5y - 7)(-y + 3) = 0
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=> 5y - 7 = 0 or
=> -y + 3 = 0

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Solving both linear equations:
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=> 5y = 7 i.e. y = 7/5
=> -y = 3 i.e. y = 3
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Substitute both values of y in (i) above.
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When y = 7/5
=> xy = 21
=> 7x/5 = 21 or 7x = 105
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Therefore x = 15 and y = 7/5
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When y = 3
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3x = 21 or x = 21/3
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Therefore y = 3 and x = 7
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But the book says I'm wrong!
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 11:43am On Aug 29, 2016
Laive:
Another one here o!
I don't know where I'm wrong. It's still simultaneous equations:
.
Que.1
xy = 21 .......... (i)
x + 5y = 22 ..... (ii)
.
Que.2
x/2 - y/5 = 1 ...... (i)
y - x/3 = 8 ......... (ii)
.
What I tried:
.
Que.1
From (ii), make x the subject
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x = 22 - 5y ...... (iii)
.
Substitute (iii) for x in (i)
.
=> y(22 - 5y) = 21
.
=> 22y - 5y2 = 21
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Rearranging the quadratic equation:
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-5y2 + 22y -21 = 0
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Factorizing the quadratic equation:
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=> (5y - 7)(-y + 3) = 0
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=> 5y - 7 = 0 or
=> -y + 3 = 0

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Solving both linear equations:
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=> 5y = 7 i.e. y = 7/5
=> -y = 3 i.e. y = 3
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Substitute both values of y in (i) above.
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When y = 7/5
=> xy = 21
=> 7x/5 = 21 or 7x = 105
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Therefore x = 15 and y = 7/5
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When y = 3
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3x = 21 or x = 21/3
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Therefore y = 3 and x = 7
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But the book says I'm wrong!
Ur answers satisfy the equations(sub x and y into d equations, u'd c dat they'r correct). wonder wots wrong in it.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 12:31pm On Aug 29, 2016
same here o.

this one e dun tey tey I solve am o.


chiefolododo oya take over.

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 12:33pm On Aug 29, 2016
ruxxz:
Ur answers satisfy the equations(sub x and y into d equations, u'd c dat they'r correct). wonder wots wrong in it.
Although I have not tried using the general formula, but the book says x = 5.2 or -0.8 and y = 2 or 6/5 .
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How about question 2 above??
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by chiefolododo(m): 12:48pm On Aug 29, 2016
We are not all learning , this one is too elementary for me to lrarn
ERUDITEE:



that's good, keep bringing them.
we are all learning.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 12:56pm On Aug 29, 2016
chiefolododo:
We are not all learning , this one is too elementary for me to lrarn


wow!! thank God it's too elementary for you.

laive we'v got another guru.

oya chiefolododo solve it since you know how to.
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Aug 29, 2016
Laive:

Although I have not tried using the general formula, but the book says x = 5.2 or -0.8 and y = 2 or 6/5 .
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How about question 2 above??
question 2.
x/2 - y/5 = 1...i.
y - x/3 = 8.......ii

from i, 5x - 2y = 10 ....iii
from ii, 3y - x = 24.......iv

from iv, x = 3y - 24...v
sub (v) in (iii)
15y - 120 - 2y = 10
13y = 130
y = 10...

sub y in (iv)
3 (10) - x = 24
x = 6...

x = 6, y = 10

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Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 1:59pm On Aug 29, 2016
chiefolododo:
We are not all learning , this one is too elementary for me to lrarn
Chiefolododo, if you say so o! But what is the easiest way to factorize a quadratic equation without using formula.
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I always find it hard to factor out numbers in a quadratic equation. Please gave me a trick!
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by jessetom(m): 3:35pm On Aug 29, 2016
Laive:

Wow! Quite strange to me... wink

Hmm. But you can program this. It's quite simple na. I see you are programmer. Use coding to illuminate the way
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by chiefolododo(m): 4:22pm On Aug 29, 2016
The easiest is by using quadratic formular but if you can't use that , then factorize . completing the square method is not an option at all [
quote author=Laive post=48898988]
Chiefolododo, if you say so o! But what is the easiest way to factorize a quadratic equation without using formula.
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I always find it hard to factor out numbers in a quadratic equation. Please gave me a trick![/quote]
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 5:43pm On Aug 29, 2016
ruxxz:
question 2. x/2 - y/5 = 1...i. y - x/3 = 8.......ii
from i, 5x - 2y = 10 ....iii from ii, 3y - x = 24.......iv
from iv, x = 3y - 24...v sub (v) in (iii) 15y - 120 - 2y = 10 13y = 130 y = 10...
sub y in (iv) 3 (10) - x = 24 x = 6...
x = 6, y = 10
Wow! Thanks a lot bro!
Re: Maths - Simultaneous Linear Equations: Where Am I Getting It Wrong?? by Nobody: 5:52pm On Aug 29, 2016
chiefolododo:
The easiest is by using quadratic formular but if you can't use that , then factorize . completing the square method is not an option at all [
quote author=Laive post=48898988]
Chiefolododo, if you say so o! But what is the easiest way to factorize a quadratic equation without using formula.
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I always find it hard to factor out numbers in a quadratic equation. Please gave me a trick!
Okay o! I dey learn o... However, it's not as if I can't use the formula. But some examinars are always specific. The instruction might be to solve without using the formula.

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