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Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 6:41pm On Oct 27, 2016
Evolution is a fact and not a scientific conspiracy to discredit the bible, rejecting evolution because of religious teachings, would be like rejecting modern medicine because of your belief in prayer. Evolution has been confirmed by almost all branches of science, from physics(astronomy, general physics) to biology(molecular biology, anatomy, zoology, ecology) to the humanities(anthropology, linguistics, archeology). Any branch of science that can confirm evolution has. It is a fact, and with that in mind, we'll arrive at the focus of this topic, early human ancestors (hominids).
Transition fossils are one of the more practical proofs of evolution(though not the strongest), because you can already see the transitions that brought about modern species. Transition fossils are hard to find and even harder to preserve, but they have been found, more than once in the case of hominids.
Before we see the fossils however, below is the hominid family tree, look closely as every step along that tree is supported by evidence and are not just guesses.

[img]http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/images/evograms/hominid_evo.jpg[/img]

The Smithsonian aslo offers a more comprehensive view of the evolution of man.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-family-tree

Transition fossils

- Ardipithecus ramidus

[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQO72i6QxPrW3AZaf1c_c3bQpKSs_HJWGwPTP43w_CO5Aqi017m7GFXD4Ot[/img]

Nicknamed Ardi, the first hominid fossil found was dated to 4.4 million years ago, bear in mind that it is not the oldest fossil found as the Smithsonian website will inform you. Skeptics of evolution should also bear in mind that no modern human remains, and by modern I mean this guys

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGhOK9_xUf8N0UBrc5npu75rbqWh0-cyWP1TchmnXOuGRLYJAFpRJ0AW1U[/img]

No modern human remain has been found that long ago, since modern humans only emerged about 50,000 years ago, fossils can prove this also.

Artist depiction
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnm6nvRVs_FIz-qzyTUexpc-VLlMEX9zw2_a9ohPXzCv5vfXNTxFP9IwjNTQ[/img]

-[b]Australopithecus afarensis
:

is an extinct hominin that lived between 3.9 and 2.9 million years ago the most famous by far being Lucy. The picture below is a fossil

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcCPcf1HcqHwCDBRu2TpNCZk13U_lDcXbAHfUyKd_JgCt6eOMiZUxG96691Q[/img]

The picture below is an artist depiction of the fossil.

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFdTP6BF9bRAuVMZdGhvaMM7lZtClYxVIqjLli93llPqaL8vmYP49laLcTFQ[/img]

-Australopithecus africanus: Recently it was dated as livingbetween 3.3 and 2.1 million years ago, or in the late Pliocene and early pleistocene times; it is debated as being a direct ancestor of modern humans.
A. africanus was of slender, or gracile, build and has been found only in southern Africa at four sites:
Taung(1924), Sterkfontein(1935), Makapansgat(1948) and Gladysvale(1992).

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_v3XaX4pHTh_PrlZwG8KCDww6QbX1VsJy6pXPi4VsYW3-EJmauH4dbIkCVg[/img]

Artist depiction
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7ntRWMKog6N4zRSseWVQmm9CXcdYRNgVnE8dFy37oqu1NhMjOiayIrNs[/img]

-Homo erectus: Meaning up right man. Its earliest fossil evidence dates to 1.9 million years ago and the most recent to 70,000 years ago. It is generally thought that H. erectus originated in Africa and spread from there, migrating throughout Eurasia as far as Georgia, India, Sri Lanka, China and Indonesia.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT97rxyxZrQj3f6xQqZzQfBYSPEtPD1uM01ZbrLKb38DcNeNzCn_9RVobs[/img]
Reconstructed fossil

Artist depiction of female H. Erectus

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCxIB2XkaqIljM4w9qc4tqiltzt_-cCsHLXKmeROoDF3gKLCoCq5GK4DDobA[/img]

-Homo heidelbergensis: is an extinct species of the genus Homo that lived in Africa, Europe and western Asia between 600,000 and 200,000 years ago. The skulls of this species share features with both Homo erectus and anatomically modern Homo sapiens; its brain was nearly as large as that of Homo sapiens
Fossil evidence
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy_05PPxPHEcOd-8tpvC3OLMsDiqL47D7qGTVvefB-F_zvDD_cU6R6644p[/img]

Artist depiction from fossil

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTB9f_es1BWhCVG5ouhivu-mGPS13ADxd1zn_85OMcOTdzL1hNvch6vWcw[/img]

You can see the full family tree at
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-family-tree

This fossils are not that of present day apes, but earlier human ancestors, they are all real and not part of some kind of conspiracy. Evolution is indeed a fact, as much of a fact as the earth is spherical, arguing against evolution is like arguing that the earth is flat, like these guys http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php
So to not be like those guys, stop arguing against evolution. As it is a fact.
You can be religious and believe in evolution

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:45pm On Oct 27, 2016
Is this science section ? undecided

Anyway , Lennycool , fossils are also evidence of progressive creationism
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by felixomor1: 6:53pm On Oct 27, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/3280338/breaking-news-fossil-supporting-evolution.

This link above exposes one way people have used fabricated fake fossils and fabricated stories of how man evolved.
It exposes the fraudulent scientist who used fake orangutan and some other bones to deceive the whole world that he discovered fossils.

It took almost a century to actually expose how he did it.
And Of course, many more have been exposed.

But is it not common sense that I can actually bury the skull of a chimpazee and claim it is the skull of an ancestor?

It has even been exposed that some of the fossils were assembled from just a single tooth.
And from there people were made to believe lies.

If indeed evolution is not a lying mission, what is an article on evolution doing under "religion"?
That asides.

I will say it again. Evolution requires more faith to believe than to believe any other thing.

No scientist has been able to demonstrate an animal adding DNA to its DNA to become a higher animal.
It has and will never happen.

Till then. Evolution is as good as belief, if not superstition.

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 6:59pm On Oct 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Is this science section ? undecided

Anyway , Lennycool , fossils are also evidence of progressive creationism
It would be, but the religious are the ones fighting tooth and nail against it. So I taught it would do better use here. Progressive creationism undecided Kingebukasblog are you now abandoning a literal translation of the bible? have you finally accepted that the bible isn't 100% real in regards to its texts.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by xendra: 7:00pm On Oct 27, 2016
this evolution nonsense makes me laugh, y'all should just go ahead and believe what you want.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 7:02pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:



https://www.nairaland.com/3280338/breaking-news-fossil-supporting-evolution.

This link above exposes one way people have used fabricated fake fossils and fabricated stories of how man evolved.
It exposes the fraudulent scientist who used fake orangutan and some other bones to deceive the whole world that he discovered fossils.

It took almost a century to actually expose how he did it.
And Of course, many more have been exposed.

But is it not common sense that I can actually bury the skull of a chimpazee and claim it is the skull of an ancestor?

It has even been exposed that some of the fossils were assembled from just a single tooth.
And from there people were made to believe lies.

If indeed evolution is not a lying mission, what is an article on evolution doing under "religion"?
That asides.

I will say it again. Evolution requires more faith to believe than to believe any other thing.

No scientist has been able to demonstrate an animal adding DNA to its DNA to become a higher animal.
It has and will never happen.

Till then. Evolution is as good as belief, if not superstition.
Olodo
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by felixomor1: 7:02pm On Oct 27, 2016
Deicide:

Olodo

cool
God bless you.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 7:03pm On Oct 27, 2016
xendra:
this evolution nonsense makes me laugh, y'all should just go ahead and believe what you want.
You don't believe Evolution You either understand it Or you Don't!

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:03pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:



https://www.nairaland.com/3280338/breaking-news-fossil-supporting-evolution.

This link above exposes one way people have used fabricated fake fossils and fabricated stories of how man evolved.
It exposes the fraudulent scientist who used fake orangutan and some other bones to deceive the whole world that he discovered fossils.

It took almost a century to actually expose how he did it.
And Of course, many more have been exposed.

But is it not common sense that I can actually bury the skull of a chimpazee and claim it is the skull of an ancestor?

It has even been exposed that some of the fossils were assembled from just a single tooth.
And from there people were made to believe lies.

If indeed evolution is not a lying mission, what is an article on evolution doing under "religion"?
That asides.

I will say it again. Evolution requires more faith to believe than to believe any other thing.

No scientist has been able to demonstrate an animal adding DNA to its DNA to become a higher animal.
It has and will never happen.

Till then. Evolution is as good as belief, if not superstition.
We've already covered this, That happened when we knew little of evolution. In the 1920's for christ sake, evolution theory was barely 60 years then and science was primitive compared to today, beside it was still scientist that exposed the fraud as science is impartial. The creationist didn't discover the fraud rather other scientist did. You can't blame all of science for the work of a few.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 7:07pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

We've already covered this, That happened when we knew little of evolution. In the 1920's for christ sake, evolution theory was barely 60 years then and science was primitive compared to today, beside it was still scientist that exposed the fraud as science is impartial. The creationist didn't discover the fraud rather other scientist did. You can't blame all of science for the work of a few.
For crying out loud you should have known some people now On Nl you should have just Ignored him or just Laugh him let him wallow in his ignorance

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by felixomor1: 7:09pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

We've already covered this, That happened when we knew little of evolution. In the 1920's for christ sake, evolution theory was barely 60 years then and science was primitive compared to today, beside it was still scientist that exposed the fraud as science is impartial. The creationist didn't discover the fraud rather other scientist did. You can't blame all of science for the work of a few.

Frauds by creationists have also been exposed by creationists in the past.
It Doesnt justify fraud.
And doesnt change the fact that others got away with it.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:19pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:


Frauds by creationists have also been exposed by creationists in the past.
It Doesnt justify fraud.
And doesnt change the fact that others got away with it.

grin grin ;DD what fraud by creationist? Wetin dem done do to warrant fraud grin is there any evidence for creationism?
Besides you were the one accusing science of being deceitful, like scientist just gang up together and say "Let's deceive the foolish public and discredit the bible, how about we make a new fossil proving evolution. Mwahahaha"
This doesn't happen, there are religious scientist and even they agree with evolution.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by xendra: 7:22pm On Oct 27, 2016
Deicide:

You don't believe Evolution You either understand it Or you Don't!
ptfff! OK go ahead then
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by tempem: 7:22pm On Oct 27, 2016
Are all respected scientists evolutionist?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:22pm On Oct 27, 2016
Deicide:

For crying out loud you should have known some people now On Nl you should have just Ignored him or just Laugh him let him wallow in his ignorance
Yeah I should, but if you ignore him he'll think he's made some kind of point
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Tallesty1(m): 7:22pm On Oct 27, 2016
Why then did we suddenly stop evolving?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:32pm On Oct 27, 2016
tempem:
Are all respected scientists evolutionist?

No, but they are outnumbered by those that are. The scientist that hold creationist view are often religious and there judgements are biased. But even if they believe in Creation, they believe in evolution controlled by God and not the literal translation of the Bible (the whole 6 days and man from dust stuff) as that holds no water.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by felixomor1: 7:32pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

grin grin ;DD what fraud by creationist? Wetin dem done do to warrant fraud grin is there any evidence for creationism?
Besides you were the one accusing science of being deceitful, like scientist just gang up together and say "Let's deceive the foolish public and discredit the bible, how about we make a new fossil proving evolution. Mwahahaha"
This doesn't happen, there are religious scientist and even they agree with evolution.

Anuthing fraud must have something to do with evidences?

By the way, i can already spot your fallacy of appeal to authority bolded there.
The very same thing u accuse religious people of.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:38pm On Oct 27, 2016
Tallesty1:
Why then did we suddenly stop evolving?
This is a misconception, evolution never stops, but it takes a long time(millons or thousands of years) to happen. You can't witness it in your life time.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Tallesty1(m): 7:40pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

This is a misconception, evolution never stops, but it takes a long time(millons or thousands of years) to happen. You can't witness it in your life time.
Any evidence to prove that it's happening?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:41pm On Oct 27, 2016
felixomor1:


Anuthing fraud must have something to do with evidences?

By the way, i can already spot your fallacy of appeal to authority bolded there.
The very same thing u accuse religious people of.
No I didn't tempem did. Remember?
When he asked

tempem:
Are all respected scientists evolutionist?
He was trying to draw in the scientist that supported creation, he was the one appealing to authority.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by taurus25(m): 7:43pm On Oct 27, 2016
Tallesty1:
Why then did we suddenly stop evolving?
we are still evolving

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by taurus25(m): 7:45pm On Oct 27, 2016
For the fact that no single homo sapien fossil exist beyond 50,000 years ago tells alot.

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 7:50pm On Oct 27, 2016
Interesting finds but they don't conclusively prove human evolution from apes except you believe in evolution. They could have been a unique species or uniques humans. Either way we can't know from the data available. Try again Lennycool.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:54pm On Oct 27, 2016
Tallesty1:
Any evidence to prove that it's happening?
Yes. Even in modern humans
* less people are born with the wisdom tooth, as humans learnt how to cook food it is now useless
* more humans digest milk now than ever before, this ability is still not present in a lot of humans
* Some postulate the last toe is slowly receding

Bacteria is also becoming resistant to anti biotics as they evolve.
Evolution is always continuing

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 7:58pm On Oct 27, 2016
UyiIredia:
Interesting finds but they don't conclusively prove human evolution from apes except you believe in evolution. They could have been a unique species or uniques humans. Either way we can't know from the data available. Try again Lennycool.
Yes they do and they're not even the strongest proofs, if they were just another specie and not human ancestors, we would have found human skeletons dating back to the same time. 3 million Years ago, but we haven't gotten any human fossils from then because humans didn't exist then.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 8:05pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

Yes they do and they're not even the strongest proofs, if they were just another specie and not human ancestors, we would have found human skeletons dating back to the same time. 3 million Years ago, but we haven't gotten any human fossils from then because humans didn't exist then.

Of course you think so. You believe in evolution so you paint the data with your presumprtions. Those fossils don't definitively prove human evolution. The parsimonious conclusion would be that they are a unique species.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 8:27pm On Oct 27, 2016
UyiIredia:


Of course you think so. You believe in evolution so you paint the data with your presumprtions. Those fossils don't definitively prove human evolution. The parsimonious conclusion would be that they are a unique species.
What unique species? You can't still believe that? Just look at the last fossil, there is almost no visible difference between him and modern humans. Read the referrals I linked. Don't judge what you know little about.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 8:33pm On Oct 27, 2016
UyiIredia:
Interesting finds but they don't conclusively prove human evolution from apes except you believe in evolution. They could have been a unique species or uniques humans. Either way we can't know from the data available. Try again Lennycool.
Humans didn't Evolve from Ape rather Humans Are Ape(hominide)
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 8:43pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

Yes. Even in modern humans
* less people are born with the wisdom tooth, as humans learnt how to cook food it is now useless
* more humans digest milk now than ever before, this ability is still not present in a lot of humans
* Some postulate the last toe is slowly receding

Bacteria is also becoming resistant to anti biotics as they evolve.
Evolution is always continuing

Just variation in a species or evolution in a limited sense. Nothing that proves universal common ancestry.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 8:44pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:

What unique species? You can't still believe that? Just look at the last fossil, there is almost no visible difference between him and modern humans. Read the referrals I linked. Don't judge what you know little about.

Why not ? I'm not wasting my time on that link. I've already judged carefully the evidence for evolution and found it to be a load of bunk.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Seun(m): 8:49pm On Oct 27, 2016
UyiIredia:
Just variation in a species or evolution in a limited sense. Nothing that proves universal common ancestry.
We've seen how much variation is possible in a few decades. What happens when that process continues for millions of years in your view?

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