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Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by 2tek: 2:34pm On Dec 25, 2016
maclatunji:
The following are my questions to the subscribers to MMM popularly called Mavrodians.
here are the answers from my understanding.

1. Where do you think the money you are collecting through MMM is coming from?

MMM claims not to be a business and not an investment, so where do you think the 30% return which excites you so much is coming from?

ANSWER:the 30% comes from traffic generated from the website,money donated by new members, money re-donated by old members and help from other countries. it is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE for ALL these 4 conditions not to occur. MARK ZUCKERBERG, the owner of Facebook is the 5th or 6th richest in the world and one of the ways he gets his money is through traffic generated by Facebook.google ad sense pays for traffic. MMM is currently in over 120 countries of the world with over 200 million of participants.

2. Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is?

I have to ask this question because of those who defend MMM with the claim that they have made money from it. To be the clear, a minority will make money from Ponzi schemes being the early adopters that help to create the exponential growth. However, the latter subscribers are the ones that lose greatly. If you understand this, you will not present this argument as evidence for MMM not being a fraud.

ANSWER:BIG LIE.The early adopters will pay the newcomers. the next set of newcomers will pay the early adopters and it continues like that. its a circle that will never end. Money is redistributed among member of MMM on the principle of gratuitousness, benevolence and reciprocity. MMM members donate FREELY to each other. Nobody was forced to join MMM.

3. Where did you get the money you invested in MMM from?

You could not use that money in any legitimate business?

I ask this question because many MMM subscribers behave as if they were incapable of earning money before MMM came.

ANSWER:A good number MMM subscribers are gainfully employed and have normal businesses. Remember, There is nothing wrong in having an alternative source of income. Remember, we have DANGOTE CEMENT, DANGOTE SUGAR, DANGOTE RICE FARM and now in the pipeline - DANGOTE REFINERY.

4. Is it that you don’t understand that governments across the world are duty-bound not to allow a Ponzi scheme started by an ex-convict that has scammed people across the world operate freely within their countries?

This one is self-explanatory, Sergey Mavrodi the main brain behind MMM is an ex-convict. He got convicted for scamming Russians with a precursor scheme to MMM.

[b][b]ANSWER: Point of correction-MMM has never defrauded anyone. MMM became so popular in RUSSIA and was controlling one third of the total money in russia at a time, so the government became jealous and decided to loot the peoples money using 17 trucks to carry/loot cash from MMM OFFICES. That is the main reason MMM doesn't have a CENTRAL ACCOUNT where money can easily be stolen.The government of Russia defrauded the participants,not MMM. They claimed SERGEI MAVRODI/MMM evaded tax but MMM/SERGEI MAVRODI stood his ground telling the government oppressors that MMM is not a business that should pay tax. MMM is just a community of people donating/helping each other with their spare cash. DO you pax tax to the government on the spare money you donate to your brother or neighbour or give out as charity? MMM has come to destroy the current unfair and unjust financial world order/institutions, so don't expect the government,CBN,SEC, etc to be happy. MMM has come to liberate people from financial bondage and servitude. The financial APOCALYPSE is inevitable. MMM servers are not located in NIGERIA, so the government CAN NOT STOP MMM. the same way the government can not stop facebook,youtube,twitter or internet.
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5. Explain how MMM is a revolutionary idea that commercial banking should be afraid of?

MMM subcribers are quick to tag banks as stealing from their customers while MMM is the solution for the masses. Curiously enough, they pay into each other’s bank accounts; curious to say the least.

ANSWER:MMM gives 30% every 30days which the banks CAN NOT give. NO serious MMM participant will take loan from any bank again. No serious MMM participant will maintain any fixed deposit in the bank again. No serious MMM participant will buy any dubious, non performing shares again.


6. Do you understand that wealth is created based on the value you create not through this system operated by a few people to rob people of their money while leaving them in the lurch?

Let us say all of us joined MMM, where would productive output come from?

ANSWER: MMM does not stop anyone who is serious from being productive. MMM will in fact assist to provide the financial boost needed for people to be more productive. MANY MMM participants are gainfully employed and engage in various productive businesses and entrepreneurial ventures.


7. Did you anticipate that your ‘investment’ (sorry, your ‘Mavros’) could be frozen without you having any say on what happens next?

I am sure many ‘Mavrodians’ did not expect this December debacle, but we are here.

ANSWER: PAUSE MODE/FREEZING OF ACCOUNTS is one of the strategies employed by MMM for STABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY. its not a new strategy, only those who didn't read/research well about MMM will claim ignorance. THe number of participants GHing*(getting help or withdrawing money) from the system should balance with the number of participants PHing*(providing help or depositing money) otherwise a PAUSE MODE is activated which normally lasts from 1-2months. MMM has lasted for 5years in its current form since 2011, and that is one of the strategies adopted over the years. it was adopted in south africa and zimbabwe and the MMM in both countries is doing fine now. Even banks couldn't pay many customers this festive season. ATMs are dried, with no cash in them for people this yuletide season. Is that not a form of PAUSE MODE?


8. Do you agree that as a promoter of the scheme, you are quite dubious because you are seeking to reap bountifully at the expense of others when the scheme crashes?

Note I wrote ‘when’ not ‘if’

ANSWER: OGA, MMM WILL NOT and i repeat WILL NOT crash. The worst that can happen is a restart. A restart is not a crash. my people perish for lack of knowledge. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for MMM to crash. MMM is an ideology. MMM is like THE INTERNET. The internet CAN NOT CRASH. The day an individual dies, his own MMM or interenet has CRASHED. All the servers in the world won't crash at the same. In a restart, MMM will manually calculate how much each individual has earned from the system, those who have made 'profit' already will have their old mavros frozen and released gradually as the PH/GH ratio balances, but the newcomers or 1st timers will be queued up to be paid first by the system. thereby ensuring that NOBODY looses money. and the system will start afresh.

9. Do you not worry that you could have a hand in the death or grievous harm happening to people who could lose money from MMM and become suicidal?

We already have reports of some people taking poison because their money got frozen this December.

ANSWER: MMM is sincere and transparent, hence the WARNING to ALL participants to participate with their spare money. This is CLEARLY WRITTEN on the programs website home page. WHO will you blame for any adult who decides to drink 20 cartons of GULDER beer and misbehaves afterward? Nigerian breweries?

10. Do you understand that you are effectively using time that you could use for productive activity to promote a questionable scheme at best?

If you understand that time lost is irrecoverable, why waste it?

ANSWER: MMM is not a questionable scheme. MMM is an ideology that is changing lives of millions of people around the world. MMM is bridging the gap between the rich and the poor. If any adult decides to dedicate few hours or days to donate his/her spare money to charity or a neighbour in need, or teach people how to do same, do u consider that wasteful? MMM is helping humanity, that is CERTAINLY NOT WASTEFUL.

Your answers and feedback are quite welcome.

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/top-10-questions-mmm-subscribers-mavrodians-answer/

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Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by kelly72: 2:48pm On Dec 25, 2016
When a sympathiser cries more than the bereaved, he is either jealous of death or madness has set in.
No MMMer has ever cried to your house since the 'crash'
I have hundreds of thousands frozen right now, if I lose it, I wont wink, only you will.
Learn to become popular with what you know, forcing yourself on what you do not know can only make you stupid

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Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by Insightz(m): 3:06pm On Dec 25, 2016
Brilliant piece. Intelligent analysis and comparison.
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by morsadh(m): 3:12pm On Dec 25, 2016
I can bet that some of the commentators in this thread never read the article in the first place. Nigerians.
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by ihatesycophant(m): 3:29pm On Dec 25, 2016
sakalisis:
Lol
Creative guy.
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by PETUK(m): 4:18pm On Dec 25, 2016
shrewd1:


either it wasnt the truth or the folks decide to do their own biding despite the truth that they have come to know.

the truth would ALWAYS set you free.
the truth will not always set you free
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by Smooyis(m): 4:36pm On Dec 25, 2016
What a trash you wrote here. Anyway it may interest you to note that whatever you write cannot change what God has written. Tbjoshua has gone beyond the level of your pull him down. Let God be the judge. Fear God shocked
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by diportivo: 5:37pm On Dec 25, 2016
"One only needs to look at a popular Abuja pastor and the way he parried his alleged adultery scandal to realise that religious leaders know their audience. They know most people in their congregation will never walk away in disgust, not necessarily because they lack the gumption or that personal integrity means nothing to them, but because the religious leaders embody the truth that works for them in some other ways."


This though grin grin grin


Some guys are seemingly ready to kill for their prophet here undecided
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by Puzzo10: 7:07pm On Dec 25, 2016
What do you have to say this time around fake prophet?
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by fmjackng: 7:16pm On Dec 25, 2016
Miss Abimbola Adelakun, You have made your point clear but the fact still remains that T.B. Joshua called himself a man of God and we are not there when God called him. I don't know if you're a Christian or Muslim but as a Christian, we don't have the right to insult or to blackmail the man of God. It is not as if I'm in supportive of all his prophecies and predictions but I'm just advising you to leave him alone since he said God called him so let leave him to the God that called him to Judge him. period.....
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by franugo(m): 2:39am On Dec 26, 2016
ednut1:
incoherent crap. how is this woman a journalist for FFs. so much F@@kery

niccur you're so stewpid u make trump seem like einstein. D piece u just dissed is probably d most eloquent n lucid thing i've ever read. Instead of u to 'oxford' the words u didn't understand, u chose to run ur hands like a baboon
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by sammytwain(m): 4:15am On Dec 26, 2016
yeyenaija:


http://punchng.com/t-b-joshua-parable-mmm/
Can someone summarize this for me?
Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by DeepSight(m): 5:25am On Dec 26, 2016
plaetton:

A million likes.

A herd of sheep will always attract a pack of wolves.

. . . I love that saying. Just like this one which I love so much:

In the Tribunal of Wolves, the hen is always found guilty.

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Re: Prophet T.B. Joshua As A Parable For MMM – By Abimbola Adelakun by Dinvictus: 4:26pm On Dec 27, 2016
Some of the posters above are quick to spew insults at the writer that they fail to realise that the article isn't directly about mmm or TB Joshua but on the poor state of our Nation's affairs and how it has subliminally influenced our psyche and thus actions.

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